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Condensation On Your Beer != Good

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the except-in-england dept.

Beer 275

An anonymous reader writes "Turns out that condensation on your favorite chilled beverage is a bad thing for keeping it cold. Two researchers conducted an experiment in their bathroom proving that condensation can raise the temperature of your beer by nine degrees!"

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wait, will wiping off help? (5, Interesting)

therealkevinkretz (1585825) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609081)

By the time there's any condensate to wipe off the glass, hasn't the damage (i.e. heat from condensation) already been done? That's what warms the glass and its contents, not the water remaining on the side. So wiping it off won't prevent the warming.

Re: wait, will wiping off help? (4, Informative)

pchasco (651819) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609149)

For the most part, but I expect the droplets of water increase the surface area of your cold beer container, thereby accelerating the warming process.

Re: wait, will wiping off help? (1)

therealkevinkretz (1585825) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609361)

They increase the surface area, but depending on their shape increase the volume of water that would also need to be warmed if the glass and therefore its contents were also to be.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (3, Informative)

XiaoMing (1574363) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609163)

By the time there's any condensate to wipe off the glass, hasn't the damage (i.e. heat from condensation) already been done? That's what warms the glass and its contents, not the water remaining on the side. So wiping it off won't prevent the warming.

What you said is correct: wiping will not help, as the condensation process is what causes the heating. The most telling bit comes from TFA:

“Probably the most important thing a beer koozie does is not simply insulate the can, but keep condensation from forming on the outside of it,” said Dale Durran, a UW professor of atmospheric sciences.

So either we start seeing stein-shaped koozies at our local dive bar... or nothing will really change from this "finding".

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (4, Insightful)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609383)

They're drinking beer out of a can?? Well I guess that makes since. You have to keep the standard mainstream American beer very cold so you can't taste it.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (5, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609493)

Most beer shouldn't be ice cold to begin with. Good beer at least. I agree with your sentiments about the mass market fizzy piss they call beer though.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (4, Informative)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609701)

This is true. You will taste much more of the beer when you drink it slightly warmer. Also the reason why the supermarket bulk beer contains phrases such as "drink ice cold!!" -- you can't taste how crappy it is.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (4, Interesting)

Quirkz (1206400) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609629)

Your reflexive disdain is outdated. Lots of craft brewers are going to cans, at least here in Colorado. Much easier to take camping, lighter, probably cheaper and just as easy to recycle. Also, unlike even brown glass, and much better than pale glass, a can won't let *any* light through, so the beer is less likely to skunk.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609663)

Craft and imported beer comes in cans these days.
Much safer to drink in my pool than glass bottles.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (1)

AvitarX (172628) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609863)

The new cans are pretty decent (the lined ones).

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609917)

So either we start seeing stein-shaped koozies at our local dive bar... or nothing will really change from this "finding".

At least, just drink from a smaller glass. That way, you can finish it sooner and replenish it from the original low-temperature supply. How this works out from a price perspective is between you and the bartender.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609219)

In other news, the thermal reaction of melting ice absorbs energy that cools your drinks. SCIENCE!

It's interesting, I guess, but not news.

All this assumes super cold beer is desirable (5, Insightful)

goombah99 (560566) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609239)

The condensation pays a latent heat penalty, warming the beer when the beer is super cold. But conversely the evaporation pays back the latent heat penalty at some higher temperature. Where the equilibrium point is I'm not sure.

But there is an easy solution to this problem: mist the outside of your beer glass with cold water. This will tie up all the condensation nucleation sites without paying the latent heat penalty.

Re:All this assumes super cold beer is desirable (2, Funny)

olsmeister (1488789) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609323)

But there is an easy solution to this problem: mist the outside of your beer glass with cold water.

Seriously? Sure, and assuming a spherical cow....

Re:All this assumes super cold beer is desirable (5, Funny)

The Mighty Buzzard (878441) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609481)

Or you could, you know, just drink it before it's old enough to buy its own beer.

Re:All this assumes super cold beer is desirable (3, Informative)

quist (72831) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609979)

the equilibrium point will be roughly at the dew_pt or wet_bulb_temp of the ambient environment. The wet_bulb_temp will approach ambient temp as the % humidity rises, hence, the quick-warming pitchers in the average crowded college watering hole.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (4, Insightful)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609267)

By the time there's any condensation, it should have been drank already!

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609375)

I'd think wiping it off would accelerate the warming - it allows for new condensation to form, bringing the temperature between the beer and the atmosphere closer to equal. It's like hugely accelerating the evaporation of the condensation.

Not surprised that condensation warms the beer (duh!) but I'm surprised how great the effect is.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (4, Interesting)

CanadianRealist (1258974) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609605)

You're right. Water has a high heat of vaporization. The amount of energy required to vaporize a given amount of water is close to 5 times the amount of energy that would be required to heat that same amount of water from 0 C to 100 C.

So think of it as being a bit like taking the amount of water in the condensate, heating that to 500 C* and adding it to your beer. (* heating to that temperature without vaporizing)

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609619)

By the time there's any condensate to wipe off the glass, hasn't the damage (i.e. heat from condensation) already been done?

Wiping probably makes it worse - expose fresh cold glass to the air for more condensate.
.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (2)

beelsebob (529313) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609867)

It will But not for the reason you think. People who actually drink beer, and understand it will know that a cold beer is actually a bad for the taste. The colder the beer is, the less you will taste it. The idea that you should get beer super chilled (as opposed to just a bit cool in the fridge) is mostly propagated by the makers of such swill as Budd and Coors. They actively don't want you to taste their beer (just drink it), and hence try and convince everyone that super cold beer is wonderful.

Re:wait, will wiping off help? (1)

retroworks (652802) | about a year and a half ago | (#43610049)

Seems to me wiping it will do more harm than good. In Africa, where refrigerators were scarce, we would put damp cloth on our beer bottles. The evaporation of the water chilled the beer pretty nicely.

Just in time for cinco de mayo (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609101)

Now how about an experiment about the optimal water quantity for a wet t-shirt contest? Something about capillary action certainly has to be discovered...

Re:Just in time for cinco de mayo (3, Interesting)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609425)

Now how about an experiment about the optimal water quantity for a wet t-shirt contest? Something about capillary action certainly has to be discovered...

I'd rather be involved in the next 15-year study to confirm the latest findings on saggy breasts [livescience.com] .

Localized Warming! (5, Funny)

paysonwelch (2505012) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609121)

Save the ales!

Re:Localized Warming! (2)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609447)

I sense another Star Trek movie. Put on your hippie robe Spock, we're headed for Earth before a giant alien beer gets there and finds all its children warm and flat.

Doesn't matter (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609127)

My beer is never in the glass long enough to form condensation.

the bathroom is where you return your rented beer (5, Funny)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609133)

>> Two researchers conducted an experiment in their bathroom

A lot of my stories that end with "and then we were both grounded for a month" start that way too.

Re:the bathroom is where you return your rented be (2)

mcmonkey (96054) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609329)

>> Two researchers conducted an experiment in their bathroom

A lot of my stories that end with "and then we were both grounded for a month" start that way too.

I imagine a lot of stories that start that way end with "...and 9 months later, you were born!"

(for fans of Sexy Loser)

(for those who don't know, don't look it up at work)

Fundamental thermodynamics (5, Funny)

gentryx (759438) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609169)

Phase transition from gaseous to liquid dissipates thermal energy. News at 18:00.

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (4, Insightful)

invid (163714) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609235)

High school physics is now a surprise to people. I am sad.

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609625)

High school physics is now a surprise to people. I am sad.

I quickly went to the comment section hoping to see this type of response. Seriously a) this is on Slashdot and b) you wouldn't hope this would be common knowledge -- especially for readers of Slashdot!?

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609757)

I'll admit it was news to me. But news in the sense of "oh yeah, this is obviously true, just think of evaporation in reverse" rather than news in the sense of "hold the front page".

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609971)

What is actually sad is how people try to find the most basic principle expressed in some research project and then assume that is the entity of the research so it can be dismissed as being high school level science. There is a big difference between determining that condensation simply releases heat and determining how much heat is released in a real world situation and showing that it is significant as opposed to contributing so little to the overall process to be ignorable.

This might not be a shining example of cutting edge research, but the same mindset seems to be all too common around here regardless of the actual significance or quality of research. Some people seem too busy trying to be dismissive, saying the measurements of the Higgs boson was stupid because its existence had be theorized for some time, and would probably show disdain if they were around for the discovery of integrated circuits or the transistor because Boolean logic had already existed.

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (2, Insightful)

Z00L00K (682162) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609741)

Mod parent up, it's not even surprising.

If this is a new discovery for someone then it's really an indication of how bad education is in the western world.

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (1)

Dr. Zim (21278) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609803)

Yes, but this is APPLIED SCIENCE

Re:Fundamental thermodynamics (0)

0bject (758316) | about a year and a half ago | (#43610013)

Mod parent up! This is what I was thinking when I read the headline/summary. I had visions of high school physics and phase diagrams appeared in my head. Condensation is an exothermic reaction so it releases heat...

Incredible (1)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609181)

That's incredible.
They should file a patent in order to protect their original research.
They would get billions from fridge/heat pump/cooling tower manufacturers or anybody who sweats!

Nine degrees scared me. (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609189)

Note to international readers: That is 9 degrees Fahrenheit. It's not as bad news for the summer days as it looks!

Re:Nine degrees scared me. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609549)

Oh, its in wibbly wobbly measurements, no worry then. 9F is nothing.

Re:Nine degrees scared me. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609781)

That's 5K for the math impaired.

Red flag for research assistants. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609191)

Alright here's what I need you to do. Go buy a six pack of beer and meet me in the bathroom.

I just have so say (1)

AttillaTheNun (618721) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609207)

Nice submission. News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters indeed.

As I'm a teetotaler... (0)

Chas (5144) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609215)

Not one shit was given...

Re:As I'm a teetotaler... (1)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609283)

Not one shit was given...

Feel free to repeat the experiment with chilled tap water, I guess, if that'll help

Re:As I'm a teetotaler... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609437)

Not one shit was given...

First time I've heard that argument for abstinence: not tying up the bathroom so others can use it.

Re:As I'm a teetotaler... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609551)

Not one shit was given...

The feeling is mutual ... we don't give a shit that you don't give a shit.

Re:As I'm a teetotaler... (4, Funny)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609677)

And yet you felt compelled to post. What's that about?

Stuff that doesn't interest me happens all the time. If I had the same compunction to comment on all of them I'd never get anything done.

Or is this another case of Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Own a Television [theonion.com] ?

Re:As I'm a teetotaler... (1)

kimvette (919543) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609975)

Really? Maybe you don't drink wine, but this also affects the Mountain Dew of basement dwellers. ;)

I kid, I kid.

Better living with Science! (1)

drjoe1e6 (461358) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609237)

Definitely news for nerds here! Science that we can apply to our everyday lives, making our day just a little bit better. And it's an interesting factoid for bar conversations.

Re:Better living with Science! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609327)

It works both ways. If you take something that is already wet with condensation and heat it up until the water evaporates, the evaporation is cooling it down. Either way - condensation or evaporation - it's a case of the system resisting whatever pressure is being applied to it. Le Chatelier's principle in action (although this is not its original context of chemical equilibrium, it's still surprisingly applicable in many situations).

Re:Better living with Science! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609649)

Definitely news for nerds here! Science that we can apply to our everyday lives, making our day just a little bit better. And it's an interesting factoid for bar conversations.

Right, I can only imagine the deep conversation that will be started by repeating this little factoid at the bar.

Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (5, Informative)

Wapiti-eater (759089) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609273)

You chill beverage to hide the unpleasant flavors. Good beer is best served just at or slightly below room temp. Keep it in a cool, dark place - it's ready when you are. Colonials ::sigh::

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (3, Insightful)

Doug Otto (2821601) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609347)

That advice works fine in England where room temperature is 55F but no so much in the desert where I live.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609419)

No matter where you live beer served near freezing is only done to cover up the fact that is it garbage.

Get a second fridge set that bad boy to 45F-50F, keep your beer in it.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (2)

I_Wrote_This (858682) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609527)

It's actually cellar temperature rather than room temperature. Dig a big hole in the ground (or use a nearby cave). Unlike room temperature, this tends to stay the same temperature all year round (without the need for heating or air-conditioning).

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609553)

Here in England, room temperature is generally considered around 20C. Which is about two-thirds of the journey from Ice to Body Temp.

Also I would expect that room temperature is pretty much the same the world over, as it generally refers to the comfortable temperature for a human in a controlled environment.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609603)

Hey Fahrenheit! If I were from England I would avoid giving others any kind of culinary advice. Your fucked up teeth and puke-like food may come up and then who cares what temperature your piss-like beer has, right?

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609405)

You chill beverage to hide the unpleasant flavors.

Good beer is best served just at or slightly below room temp. Keep it in a cool, dark place - it's ready when you are.

Colonials ::sigh::

Agreed. I like Belgian strong ales. Serving them iced cold is the wrong way to enjoy them. I want to slurp out every last bit of that wonderful flavor and icing would only get in the way. This research must have been done by Budweiser fans.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609455)

That depends on the type of the beer.

http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (1)

Inda (580031) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609479)

We don't drink Stella for the flavour.

Warm beer on a hot summer's day? Um, yeah, that sounds soooo appetising.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609537)

1. Stella is overpriced crap, for the same money you could buy good beer.
2. No one said warm, celler temp is what you want.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609483)

I chill beer for the same reason I chill water. Nothing to do with how it tastes.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609601)

Ignorant beer snobs are so amusing.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609635)

I'm an avid home brewer and have been a beer snob for many years. I know good beer from bad. I still prefer my beer cold. I'm not interested in how others think that I should drink beer.

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (1)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609811)

You chill beverage to hide the unpleasant flavors. Good beer is best served just at or slightly below room temp. Keep it in a cool, dark place - it's ready when you are. Colonials ::sigh::

Like wines, the customary serving temperature of various beers depends on the type. And personal preference. Stuffy Brits ::sigh::

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (5, Funny)

Cloud K (125581) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609839)

Yep, keep it in a cold dark place. England!

Re:Beer that needs chilling is, uh, well... (1)

DdJ (10790) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609923)

My favorite temperature for serving beer (that I'll tolerate drinking) is roughly the ambient temperature of a typical cellar in Ireland in the Spring and Autumn.

Gee, I wonder why that is...

Yeah, and...? (1)

taiwanjohn (103839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609301)

Beer is certainly "stuff that matters." And the fact that condensation transfers heat to the surface of the glass may be "news" to some folks. But the number of "nerds" who didn't already know this must be quite small.

OTOH, it's an excuse to talk about beer. Matter of fact, I'm having one right now. ;-)

Cheers!

The irony (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609357)

The uptight BMW-driving Grey Poupon crowd who buy those kinds of drink cooler gadgets and show them off to friends are the ones getting the warmed over beer. Whereas the average joe whooping it up with buddies while watching the game doesn't have the problem, but is too 'faced to notice the difference anyway.

Chilling news ... (1)

Rambo Tribble (1273454) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609359)

... but, there's a solution at hand: Drink fast!

Says who? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609367)

Most beer is served way too cold, since bars tend to keep everything at piss water lager temperature.

Proper beers are better at celler temperatures instead of near to freezing. Anything that helps get a beer back up is fine by me. Most places I have to order two beers to start so I can let one warm while I drink the other.

As a Belgian (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609377)

I must share that there is something wrong with the beer when one has to drink it extremely cold.
An Orval should be served between 12-14 degrees. That's insensitive Celcius degrees.
Why not spending a couple of extra cents on quality ingredients to make a quality beer instead of blowing money on cooling?

Re:As a Belgian (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609507)

The reason for this is very simple.
The brewer does not pay for the cooling, the bar or customer does. This means they can continue to use cracked rice, cracked corn, the lowest grade of barley known to man and hops extract. When you are making a billion gallons of brew you can make a lot of profit by using animal feed instead of proper ingredients.

Then you simply advertise the hell out of serving this garbage as cold as possible, which covers up the taste.

Re:As a Belgian (1)

femtobyte (710429) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609761)

Why not spending a couple of extra cents on quality ingredients to make a quality beer instead of blowing money on cooling?

Because that wouldn't be the American Megacorporate Way. Why spend more on product quality, when you could spend half as much on ubiquitous ad campaigns to redefine the country's understanding of what "beer" even is?

Re:As a Belgian (3, Insightful)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609895)

Why not spending a couple of extra cents on quality ingredients to make a quality beer instead of blowing money on cooling?

Because that wouldn't be the American Megacorporate Way. Why spend more on product quality, when you could spend half as much on ubiquitous ad campaigns to redefine the country's understanding of what "beer" even is?

WRT beer, what is this American Megacorporation to which you refer? AB InBev? Grupo Modello? SABMiller? Molson Coors? (I guess that last one's half-American, but not really "mega" compared to the first two.)

Re:As a Belgian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609897)

Same AC here. And the funny thing is that it's a Belgian(-Brazilean-American) company that does the redefining. Still. I don't understand how they could get away with rice in beer.

So would that mean (1)

kilodelta (843627) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609385)

Leaving it in a salted ice medium in a cooler is bad for it too? It can get pretty wet that way.

What do you call insulated beverage sleeves? (4, Funny)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609403)

While on a float trip in Arkansas many years ago, a friend in a bikini offered me a titty. Shock turned to disappointment when I learned that in parts of the South Central US, those foam beverage sleeves are known as "Tiddies" for the Texas-based manufacturer of such foam-rubber products. But my beer did stay colder longer, so it wasn't a total loss.

Re:What do you call insulated beverage sleeves? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609579)

We call them 'beer condoms'. :-P

Re:What do you call insulated beverage sleeves? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609777)

Coozies in my neck of the woods.

come on slashdot seriously (4, Insightful)

nimbius (983462) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609417)

this is simple highschool physics. the real problem we need to research and investigate is why do beer bottles unexpectedly and inappropriately become empty.
I have, as a scientist, conducted extensive research myself and have to date been unable to conclude a definitive cause. I implore slashdotters, if you have any experience in this phenomenon or have experienced it personally, please adhere to your diligence as scientists and provide additional research data. bottles, glasses and even steins will exhibit this behavior, so please consider this in your testing protocol.

Re:come on slashdot seriously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609675)

It's simple - it leaks out through the big hole in the top. Happens when you drink from a glass too.

Re:come on slashdot seriously (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609941)

the real problem we need to research and investigate is why do beer bottles unexpectedly and inappropriately become empty

I've done extensive testing on this, and have concluded that what is actually happening is a volumetric transference from the vessel to the imbiber, at a rate proportional to the time the glass spends separated from the flat surface.

You can predict the transfer rate by both the frequency with which the glass goes through it's lifting cycle and the tilt angle of the container at any given moment. Usually approaching 45 degrees suggest imminent container emptiness.

There's a second relationship whereby the imbiber themselves become vessels, and for certain forms of liquids (ie beer), the outflow rate from the secondary container increases according to the amount of liquid transferred in.

What I haven't been able to identify is how some containers become full -- I routinely see vessels which become full with substances like Jagermeister and white tequila, for which I've not been able to identify any rational explanation.

uh, how long does it take to drink a beer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609451)

and how much refrigeration and insulating foam do you require to avoid being disgusted by the weak, stale taste of corporate ditch water? is there a formula?

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609509)

physics still works! WTF. This is news?

Drink it while it's cold (1)

Grisstle (2798631) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609533)

The condensation makes the beer look tasty and I plan to drink it while it's still cold, not study it.

Re:Drink it while it's cold (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609961)

The condensation makes the beer look tasty

It makes it look like in the advertisements, because advertising uses condensation to make it look cold.

It's funny how the brain works.

This research needs independent verification (1)

DontBlameCanada (1325547) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609577)

I volunteer!

Re:This research needs independent verification (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609705)

Okay, you're the control group. Now cover yourself in condensation and get in the fridge.

Re:This research needs independent verification (1)

DontBlameCanada (1325547) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609913)

Being warm-blooded, I'm a poor choice of control. Now, if I were to fill ma belly with several pints of tasty cold beerz, I might indeed be able to play a role.

Cheers and bottoms up!

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609815)

My beers don't last long enough to raise 9 degrees...

Are you Serious? (1)

kuhnto (1904624) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609819)

Is this really news? WHAT? Entropy? Condensation? Thermodynamics? Events unfolding along the time continuum... I... Actually,.. Do Not... Know... what... To Say... Condensation... . On a beer glass... ...We put a man on the moon, and yet we JUST figured this out.

Condensation means environment is warmer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609877)

So of course condensation means your drink will not be able to remain cold. Duh.

Um, no shit? (2)

DdJ (10790) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609901)

Isn't this basic high school science class stuff? Yes, condensation raises temperatures, just like evaporation lowers temperatures.

That's the whole reason human beings can sweat to cool off.

A lot of people presumably know about that. Are those people surprised that this works "in both directions"?

Wow, Slashdot. Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43609907)

I learned this in 9th grade.

Only with American beer (5, Funny)

fynfuqbg (522423) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609925)

condensation can raise the temperature of your beer by nine degrees!"

This happens only with American beer, in the rest of the world the temperature raises only by five degrees

No shit, Einstein (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | about a year and a half ago | (#43609935)

Phase transition from gas to liquid is exothermic?

This is a fun classroom experiment, but it isn't science news.

Don't need science ta tell me dat! (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#43610057)

> Turns out that condensation on your favorite chilled beverage is abad thing for keeping it cold

It's also bad because you're losing beer as it leaks out thru microholes.

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