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Cyanogenmod 10.1 RC1 Starts To Roll Out To Devices Near You

timothy posted about a year ago | from the loyal-quasi-opposition dept.

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New submitter Noitatsidem writes "Good news for Cyanogenmod users, according to their blog it looks like 10.1 is nearing its stable release. 'We haven't used the "Release Candidate" nomenclature since the ICS days, but we feel the 10.1 branch is quickly approaching the point where a "final" build is due. To prepare for that eventuality, RC1 builds for CyanogenMod 10.1.0 are now landing on our servers! This will be one of (if not the last) milestone releases before a 10.1.0 is pushed out. These builds will appear as they complete the build process and, as always, you can download the builds via get.cm!' Android Police speculates that this is due in part to the rumored release announcement of Android 4.3 given at Google I/O 2013 which is taking place in (now) less than one week. Looks like the Android community will have a lot to talk about in coming days!"

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Looking forward to 4.3 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43690877)

Been running 4.2.2 on my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 since i bought it. Fantastic and always been very stable.

Re:Looking forward to 4.3 (2)

keneng (1211114) | about a year ago | (#43692445)

while you're at it, install the f-droid and lildebi android apps. This will permit to install full debian onto your cyanogen. After that you can install golang into your debian.

Re:Looking forward to 4.3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43694021)

This will permit to install full debian onto your cyanogen.

Why?

 

After that you can install golang into your debian.

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???

And on a well-edited nerd news site (-1, Offtopic)

iggymanz (596061) | about a year ago | (#43690905)

we'd have been told what a "cyanogenmod" is by a sentence or phrase in the article. But this is slashdot, which started circling the drain long before CT left as he lost interest

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691127)

Not really. If you are reading this site in the first place you probably know. Say 20% of people don't know (completely imaginary number), do you expect the editors to explain each thing every time just for that minority? Google is your friend.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | about a year ago | (#43693683)

Indeed. It seems there's lately been something of a rash of these complaints about terms not being spelt out. This one should be pretty much common knowledge in this forum, but if not, a search brings up a comprehensive result at the very top of the page. I'm getting a bit weary of such abject slothfulness.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691133)

If you dont know what cyanogenmod is, then you really should not be here.

Do you think all Linux related news should give a brief introduction to what the kernel is as well?

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#43691453)

If you dont know what cyanogenmod is, then you really should not be here.

If you don't want to sound like a condescending douchebag, then you really shouldn't be posting here.

This is, ostensibly, a news site. It deals in information. If (as is the usual complaint when this comes up) you should "just Google it," you've just lost people to Google and any of the myriad better written pieces.

Yes, it's at base a subjective call as to what to define and what not to, but when all it takes is a few words inserted in the proper, subtle, journalistic fashion, and it doesn't happen, you end up leaving readers feeling excluded.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (2)

meddle99 (1946010) | about a year ago | (#43691697)

News for nerds. Any decent nerd knows what cyanogenmod is. If every term was explained in every article, nobody would want to read them. TFA also does not explain "Amdroid", "ICS", or "Android." Consider what a boorishly long article it would be if it did. CNN and Fox News don't explain the word "sequestration" or "murder" in every article. There is a certain level of understanding you expect your audience to have.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (0, Flamebait)

iggymanz (596061) | about a year ago | (#43691871)

" Any decent nerd knows what cyanogenmod is"?

Actually, no, there are more kinds of nerds interested in a broader range of subjects than in the little world between your very closely spaced ears. Even most Android users don't change the firmware of their devices, they have better things to do with their time.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (3, Informative)

ozmanjusri (601766) | about a year ago | (#43692187)

Select unfamiliar word, right-click and select "Search Google for unfamiliar word" from the context menu.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (2)

magic maverick (2615475) | about a year ago | (#43693569)

This doesn't work in Lynx. Do you have another method?

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43693999)

Nope. That's the only one. Sorry.

If you're a Lynx user and can't figure that out... welcome to 2013. You must have been asleep for 15 years.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#43695499)

This doesn't work in Lynx. Do you have another method?

Yes, subscribe to the monthly printed digest version of Slashdot, which includes a glossary of unfamiliar terms in the back. Contact the subscription department for further information.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43695741)

Gopher:// cyanogen

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

meddle99 (1946010) | about a year ago | (#43693731)

"Even most Android users don't change the firmware of their devices"

User != Nerd. And you should really give decaf a shot. It's just as good. Really!

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about a year ago | (#43694615)

Nerd != cell phone firmware diddler

I don't drink coffee

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | about a year ago | (#43694725)

I don't drink coffee

Well, maybe you should start. It might keep you awake enough to stay current with fairly major aspects of this technology, given that you are obviously interested enough to pursue this thread thus far. ;P

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

Hadlock (143607) | about a year ago | (#43692503)

We should probably include summaries of what companies like Cisco, Microsoft, Intel and IBM do in each story as well then. Cyanogenmod is probably a B or C tier brand name, but it's in no way unfamiliar.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43694085)

Whats "google"? Please explain!

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

Noitatsidem (1701520) | about a year ago | (#43697215)

I actually agree with you, since I wrote the article I consider this to be good feedback, in retrospect I should have described briefly what Cyanogenmod is, aside from some formatting changes my post was pretty much unedited. Granted, one can probably figure out what Cyanogenmod is through the context (talking about android releases and whatnot), it should be made clearer for people who don't, or wouldn't know what it is (say iOS/WP users). So thanks for the feedback, I intend on being more clear for future articles I write.

Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year ago | (#43694711)

It would be nice to be told what the differences are between 10.0 and 10.1. I just upgraded last night. The camera seems slightly different, and the lockscreen is slightly different too. Really the biggest change I'm seeing so far is that I need to update gapps.

This doesn't seem to be the summary's fault. Wikipedia essentially only says it's based on android 4.2.

I am reporting a finding of TRUTH (1)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | about a year ago | (#43690919)

Greetings Slashdort. Recently, I died. I would like to inform you, in case you were wondering, that there is in fact no afterlife and that "Jesus" and all that crap is totally bogus. Thanks and give my best regards to my poor widow, Laura!

Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (2)

jez9999 (618189) | about a year ago | (#43690985)

My device (HTC Desire S) still only has "official" support for Cyanogenmod 7. Slightly out of date, I'd say. Actually, most devices aren't going to get CM10 for a long time, if ever. Just a few ones the devs happen to like.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (4, Informative)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#43691043)

How old is the desire s now?

Smartphones age in dog years

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691109)

As does your mom.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691469)

Why? It still works, doesn't it?

Why should we accept that we won't even get security patches for slightly older devices?

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

Nemyst (1383049) | about a year ago | (#43691811)

For the same reason that we're not expected to support Pentium IIs and Windows 98. Things move on. The Desire S was a single core 1GHz machine with 768MB of RAM. Modern machines are quad core 1.5GHz with 2GB of RAM. You can't expect the same software to scale to this large a discrepancy.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691993)

I just got 10.1 RC1 on my "old" samsung galaxy S1 which come with 1GHz cpu and 512MB of RAM..

The HTC Desire S is out of luck for other reasons obviously

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | about a year ago | (#43694867)

Heh. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus got dumped by my telco just a month after I took out the contract (despite the fact that the phone by then wasn't that old). So, needless to say, I became weary of the Waiting for Godot thing of hanging out for updates. Fortunately, a Nexus device is pretty easy to flash with a stock Jelly Bean ROM (I haven't found a use for Cyanogenmod at this point) which is enough for my needs.

But what has made the biggest difference to the user experience is having rooted the device in order to (a) get rid of useless cruft like Google+ and YouTube apps, and (b) set up proper hosts-based adblocking so that my monthly traffic allowance doesn't get swallowed up with crap that I don't want.

The take-home message (at least for my future reference) is to stay away from non-Nexus devices if you have any inclination to use your hardware in any way that your telco doesn't decree.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | about a year ago | (#43693197)

"Why should we accept that we won't even get security patches for slightly older devices?"

You shouldn't. Your anger should be directed at HTC though - not the CM team.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (3, Insightful)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year ago | (#43693467)

So true. It's a shame that the original manufacturer won't support a device that came out just two years ago (HTC Desire S came out in 2011 if I'm correct).

It's sad that the open alternative can't support it.

In the meantime, the latest version of Apple iOS supports iPhones released back into 2009 with iPhone 3GS. If you bought the latest iPhone available in 2009, you would still get the latest OS today almost four years later.

I *really* hope that the phone manufacturers will just drop the idea that everything that's not an x86 has to be specialized locked down hardware. It's a computer, start treating it like one.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (2)

mspohr (589790) | about a year ago | (#43694455)

Problem with iOS upgrades is that the phone becomes crippled by bloatware and you need a new phone.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year ago | (#43697093)

Actually, no. From what I've seen they are usually doing good work when rolling out updated to older devices. There have been a few that's not been optimal, such as iOS 4 on the 3G. But apart from that one it actually works just fine. There are many problems with iOS, but updates is not one of them.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

mspohr (589790) | about a year ago | (#43697247)

The updates do run "fine" (for some definition of "fine) but both of my daughters have had iPhones for many years and found them unusable (sloooow) after an update or two so they ended up buying newer iPhones which could run the software better.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

oergiR (992541) | about a year ago | (#43694437)

Android 4.0 runs fine on the Desire S with the ROM from HTCDev.

The surprising thing here is that HTC has actually supported the phone for longer than Cyanogenmod.

Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (4, Informative)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year ago | (#43691211)

Cyanogenmod is its own flavor of android. If your particular phone has been modified in such ways that it needs a special flavor of android to work (and granted, most do in the US) then you will need a special flavor of Cyanogenmod. This is not the CM communities problem, nor are they the ones working on your port. Getting it to work on your phone likely isn't nearly as complicated as you think it is (I had to hack one together myself) though you risk bricking your phone if you're not careful. There are less deadly mistakes as well, like getting the modem or media texting screwed up and not realizing that your boss has been trying to call you for 2 days strait. But you can do it yourself if you want.

Your best bet is to buy a phone that doesn't have a contract and has vanilla android on it. Then you wont need these special builds.

Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692933)

The only US phones that come with vanilla android are Nexus devices. Those are not made for every carrier simultaneously. Even worse, they don't come in a qwerty keyboard variant, which I consider a necessity.

Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43691899)

My device (HTC Desire S) still only has "official" support for Cyanogenmod 7.

So? My device (SEMC Xperia Play) has lagging official support, but the FreeXperia project provides fairly high-quality CM releases for the Xperia range... Doesn't your Desire S? And if not, why not? Doesn't anyone care?

I snark this as a prior owner of an HTC Raphael 110. It was possible to boot GB on it (via "GBX" project) but it was pretty lousy even though in theory performance ought to have been acceptable. But, I sold it on eBay for $50 (buy it now, I might have been able to get more!) and I bought my Xperia Play for the same amount. It came with 2.3.4, runs 2.3.7 very well, and is capable of running ICS or JB just fine albeit with some problems with game controller support. If support for your device is lagging, it might be worthwhile to try to find a fixer-upper replacement, and sell your old device to someone unreasonably married to the platform to pay for it.

Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (2)

danbob999 (2490674) | about a year ago | (#43692463)

The Desire S was not a very popular smartphone. The Galaxy S is older and supported.

Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43694301)

Rockin an original epic 4g variant of the galaxy s here. It's CM mainlined so got RC1 and will probably get KLP. Think it's maybe over 3yr old now.

Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

DrXym (126579) | about a year ago | (#43693335)

More likely it's the devices that devs own and reasonably expect the os to work on. It'd be nice to sport CM10 on my HTC desire but if it's even possible I suspect it would be impossibly tight and would still necessitate smearing firmware across an SD partition.

Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43693567)

That's not the fault of the folks at CM though. Android massively jumped in install size between 2.3 and 4.0.

The on board Flash on the Desire S was cramped for installing apps on 2.3, it simply can't fit 4.0

permission spoofing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691085)

As someone who hasn't been running cyanogenmod but is interested in doing that, I have a question.

Is permission spoofing (e.g, reporting bogus info about location/contacts/etc to prevent spying by apps) currently in or out of CM? I heard mixed things and wasn't sure.

That is THE killer feature as far as I am concerned and is why I want to use something like CM.

Re: permission spoofing? (3, Informative)

SGT CAPSLOCK (2895395) | about a year ago | (#43691561)

It isn't officially supported, but it is possible to patch CyanogenMod to allow information/permission spoofing. Research "openpdroid" (newest), pdroid2 (unmaintained), or pdroid (abandoned) for more info, as well as the "autopatcher" on XDA forums for a tool to patch already packaged CM/etc ROMs.

Re:permission spoofing? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692111)

Just get marketEnabler on any rooted phone, here's the description:
"Market Enabler allows your device to pretend it's in another country, region, or telco. Why would you want to do this, you ask? Well, for one thing, it allows you to get around regional or telco-specific barriers in marketplace purchases such as on Google Play. If you really MUST have a particular app that isn't offered in your region, you might want to consider MarketEnabler."

Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (-1, Offtopic)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#43691447)

Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod" like any respectable publication would? Yes, yes, I know - "if you don't know you shouldn't be allowed to read Slashdot" - but then that's exclusionist bullshit, obviously. I know it's a popular open source Android build, but just because I know, and just because you know, that doesn't mean that everyone who comes here should know, and that anyone who doesn't is beneath contempt. It is possible to be interested in tech news and not know every detail of every branch.

Good news for users of the popular Android* distribution Cyanogenmod...

See how easy it is to do it without anyone even noticing? Brief, informative, and not condescending. The real news does it all the time.

*"Nurr, but you didn't define Android, what if someone doesn't know what that is? Yuck yuck yuck..." It's not all-or-nothing, obviously, and you have to draw the line somewhere. I'd say one-level-up is usually about right. Just read a decent newspaper and see how it's done.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

Fifth of Five (451664) | about a year ago | (#43691515)

To be fair, I only discovered Cyanogenmod about two months ago when my boss handed me a case of HP TouchPads and asked me if we could do anything with them. I'm a Windows Server monkey, but searching for "Android on TouchPad" led me straight to it.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691539)

Wtf. Google cyanogenmod. Or, do you work at Woman To Woman bookstore, and you just can't reach the keys on your keyboard right now? How hard can it be, really?

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691889)

Would it kill you to define "Android" like any respectable publication would? Yes, yes, I know - "if you don't know you shouldn't be allowed to read Slashdot" - but then that's exclusionist bullshit, obviously. I know it's a popular open source Linux build, but just because I know, and just because you know, that doesn't mean that everyone who comes here should know, and that anyone who doesn't is beneath contempt. It is possible to be interested in tech news and not know every detail of every branch.

Would it kill you to define "Linux" ...

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (4, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43691921)

Yes, yes, I know - "if you don't know you shouldn't be allowed to read Slashdot" - but then that's exclusionist bullshit, obviously.

That would be exclusionist bullshit, but that is not the bar. How are you getting along with that straw man? The bar is if you can't use Google and Wikipedia, you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet. There is just no risk that if you ask google or wikipedia what cyanogenmod is that you will not find out immediately. If asking wikipedia doesn't even lead to a disambiguation page, then you have no excuse for not being able to find out what it is. If it doesn't mean anything to you when you read the summary, then the story is not for you. Move on, and quit your juvenile bitching.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (0, Troll)

cas2000 (148703) | about a year ago | (#43692167)

please define 'google' and 'wikipedia'. and what's an 'internet'?

it's unfair and exclusionist of you to use such technobabble jargon without defining them.

also, i'm not clear on what 'straw' or 'man' are. you need to define them too. in grunts of one syllable or less.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

ne0n (884282) | about a year ago | (#43691973)

CM is like H-D [harley-davidson.com]. If we have to explain it, you won't understand.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | about a year ago | (#43694933)

No, it's just that (in the case of H-D) if you tried, everybody would kill themselves laughing. Sorry, but by the time you're old enough to ride a motorcycle, you shouldn't need a pram.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691981)

It is possible to be interested in tech news and not know every detail of every branch.

Yeah, it's also possible to not read articles with subjects you know (or care) little about.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692095)

I know it's a popular open source Android build, but just because I know, and just because you know, that doesn't mean that everyone who comes here should know, and that anyone who doesn't is beneath contempt.

Okay, you know what it means. But do you seriously have that much contempt for the average Slashdot user that you think they're incapable of looking something up for themselves?

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

Molochi (555357) | about a year ago | (#43692917)

Well anyone could just Google it. So any assburger level Slashdot user should be expected to. CM is not remotely obscure. If you Google the initials CM it is the third result... right after centimeter and a Wikipedia disambiguation page.

Of course just actually Googling Cyanogenmod, only produces relevant results.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#43693787)

But do you seriously have that much contempt for the average Slashdot user that you think they're incapable of looking something up for themselves?

No, I just don't think they should always have to when a niche project like Cyanogenmod gets mentioned.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

Threni (635302) | about a year ago | (#43693469)

Yeah, they keep mentioning "Linux" here too - I don't have the first clue what that is. I'm beginning to think Slashdot is some sort of tech site for people with a bit of intelligence, knowledge and self-motivation.

Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? (1)

Noitatsidem (1701520) | about a year ago | (#43697335)

I agree with you, and thanks for the feedback on my first article. It's really about asking yourself "what level of understanding do I expect the reader to have right off the bat, and how can I concisely put in possibly useful information into the article?" I've found this to be an enlightening experience, and look forward to posting articles in the future, and learning from the mistakes I've made as I go.

Cyanogenmod is a great project! (2)

Fifth of Five (451664) | about a year ago | (#43691497)

I've been running 10.1 experimental on my HP TouchPad for a while and it's been fairly stable. Can't wait for the RC! My company has resurrected about two dozen TouchPads thanks to Cyanogenmod. Ghu love the folks who put their time and effort into this project!

Re:Cyanogenmod is a great project! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43691727)

since when is fairly stable acceptable for something running linux at its core, fuck it run windows if its only fairly stable

dipshit

I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean (2)

Picass0 (147474) | about a year ago | (#43691605)

CM specific - Some of the release canidates suffered from echos during calls, poor mic pick up. If you notice the other party on your call having problems hearing you speak it's a known issue on some devices.

Stability and battery life have been very good w/ recent CM 10.1 RCs.

This isn't unique to Cycanogenmod but I HATE how JB handles Wallpapers now. Whatever image you pick is cropped in the shape of a "t". WTF? There's live wallpaper apps that workaround this, but it's a stupid change. BOOOOooooo.....

Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean (-1, Redundant)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year ago | (#43691737)

no one cares

Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean (1)

Picass0 (147474) | about a year ago | (#43695367)

Looking at the scores on out comment history I have a better track record than you. Very few of your comments get upvotes. I would say "no one cares" about your negative, piss poor attitude comments.

Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean (2)

Ravadill (589248) | about a year ago | (#43691971)

Try Quickpic (free on google play) not only is it the best image viewer I've used, it also has it's own set as wallpaper feature that lets you crop images as a standard rectangle, or you can use Nova launcher (also free on play) which will let you set wallpapers as the standard T or as a square.

Bug Alert (-1, Troll)

HtR (240250) | about a year ago | (#43691755)

Could someone take a look at this?
There appears to be a bug in the Slashdot code (is it still Slashcode?) that posts random release notes from obscure development projects as front page stories.

Re:Bug Alert (3)

Anastomosis (1102421) | about a year ago | (#43692265)

Android: Highly likely to be the most popular smartphone OS among slashdot readers.
Cyanogenmod: One of the most popular (if not the most popular) ROMs for Android.
Not so obscure.

Re:Bug Alert (1)

Molochi (555357) | about a year ago | (#43692935)

You so funny. ha ha ha.

But while we're laughing, we should exclude other obscure dev projects with smaller install bases like Win 8, Redhat, and all of the BSDs.

Will it actually install this time? (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | about a year ago | (#43691757)

I have a Galaxy Tab 2 and there's about 50 different cookbook methods for installing CM, none of which work.

Re:Will it actually install this time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692057)

I had issues when trying to install it on Tab 2. Here is my experience:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/72384-question-on-installing-cm-on-new-device/

Working fine with fantastic battery life. I use WiFi occasionally, and I don't use a SIM or 3G :P

Re:Will it actually install this time? (1)

Pubstar (2525396) | about a year ago | (#43693189)

Have you tried using Odin yet? It was the only way I could get my T-999 S3 to take Cyanogenmod.

Re:Will it actually install this time? (1)

Noitatsidem (1701520) | about a year ago | (#43697401)

I've had nothing but great experiences using Odin. Of course, I've also grown to love the ROM Manager app, which allows me to keep CWM up to date (I got the premium version for CWM touch, which I've grown to love)

I wish (3)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about a year ago | (#43692253)

I wish some company would just sell a phone with cyanogen on it stock.

Re:I wish (2)

bemymonkey (1244086) | about a year ago | (#43693207)

Just buy the current Nexus (in this case, the Nexu 4) phone. CyanogenMod is pretty much tweaked stock Android, which is exactly what you get on a Nexus, and the CM team develops on the current flagship Nexus, so you'll be getting the latest CM versions for as long as possible, and installation of CM on a Nexus is easy as pie.

Re:I wish (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43693945)

Or get a HTC. Check htcdev.com for their support,

HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, due to some of our carrier customers concerns, certain models with specific restrictions may not be able to be unlocked. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.

HTC supports you with a tool to unlock the bootloader and in the download section you can find a list of kernel source code.

(Disclaimer: I have not tried HTC yet but I am seriously considering it as my first smartphone, my Siemens A60 is getting a bit old now...)

Re:I wish (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | about a year ago | (#43694005)

Unfortunately, HTC is one of the biggest culprits here. Check out a few posts above - the person having issues with his phone not being updated already has an HTC Desire S.

Re:I wish (1)

purpledinoz (573045) | about a year ago | (#43693261)

I wish phone companies would sell a phone with stable firmware. I bought an LG Optimus 2x, and my phone crashed 10 minutes after I turned on the phone for the first time. Also, there was a memory leak, where the phone slowed to a crawl if it wasn't rebooted after a few days. But luckily, the frequent crashes meant that the phone wouldn't make it past a few days without a reboot anyway. Without CM, I would have bought a Samsung by now.

Re:I wish (1)

Threni (635302) | about a year ago | (#43693449)

I wish Samsung would release docs/source for the Exynos varieties of the Galaxy S3 so Cyanogenmod on it wasn't such a woeful experience.

Not as happy with CM as I could be. (2)

aussersterne (212916) | about a year ago | (#43692473)

I switched to Android from iOS earlier this year specifically to get a bigger screen and widgets (Galaxy Note).

The Samsung ROM was horrifically slow and ugly and filled with unremovable apps I didn't want, plus it contacted the AT&T mothership constantly even though I don't use AT&T and the phone is unlocked.

So I downloaded a CM10.1 experimental build. It was guaranteed to spontaneously reboot during the first 5-10 second of any placed or received call.

So I wiped and downgraded to CM10 stable. This one lets me make calls, but randomly reboots at least half a dozen times a day.

My first experience with Android phones (and it has been expensive in terms of learning curve to get rooted/installed) has not been pleasing. Android may be more flexible, offer larger screen devices, and have more active hacking community surrounding it, but first and foremost, I want to be able to rely on my device.

I'm now trying to decide whether to revert back to the Samsung ROM (Jelly Bean was finally just released for the i717 on the 3rd) and see if that restores the stability of the original Samsung ROM (though no doubt it will also restore the ugliness, slowness, and bloat) or try out a CM10.1 nightly...or just sell the device and get another iPhone and jailbreak it, even without widgets and a big screen.

I should say that my experience with cheap-ass Android tablets from China has been much better. They run stock and are stable and fast. But the phone thing is killing me.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692603)

Just root a stock Samsung install of JB and use something like Titanium Backup to uninstall the bloatware. Should get you where you want to go without too much hassle.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692851)

Dear Lord, you're putting beta ROMS on our phone and you're having issues. Please, just stick to your stock ROM and replace the TouchWiz launcher with Nova or Apex launcher and everything will be good. Inexperienced people shouldn't play with roms.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43692857)

STOP . AMERICA . NOW

as you post a half page of pointless pussy bitching about 2 american products

STFU

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (1)

Pubstar (2525396) | about a year ago | (#43693209)

It took me 3 hours to root and install Cyanogenmod with no prior knowledge on how to do so. I did soft brick my phone 3 times in the process though. The only thing I can think to ask is if you're using the right build. There could be a ton if different models under the same name. There are at least 6 models of the GS3.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (2)

Threni (635302) | about a year ago | (#43693459)

Depends on your budget/requirements. Why not get an S3/S4 or Nexus 4? I've stopped playing with Cyanogenmod because I have an S3 which a) isn't supported very well by Cyanogenmod, but more importantly b) doesn't need a replacement OS. The Nexus 4 is plain Android, but it's plain Android 4 which is great, and you'll get any updates first. But Android is more or less done now - once you're on some flavour of 4 (4.1/4.2) you're good to go. Fragmentation/worrying about rooting/bricking etc is only a problem/issue if you've got some older phone which is stuck on Android 2.x and you're too cheap to get a new smartphone (or just don't need one - but this is Slashdot after all!).

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43693717)

the ui, if you can call it that because it's certainly not user oriented, is terrible. I'm running cm10.1-rc1 for three days now on my s3 and I don't have a single issue

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43694035)

Bluetooth Low Energy is going to be supported in 4.3. That's what all the sensor type devices will be using. That's one reason right there to want that version.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43693701)

try the nightlies and fill out bug reports

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (1)

horza (87255) | about a year ago | (#43693957)

I have a Galaxy Note2, and rooting it was as simple as double clicking on a file. Took me 1 minute. Installing a new rom took me a good 5 minutes. There are plenty of sites for this like this one [galaxynote2root.com]. I really enjoy my custom rom, it's called du@lNote [xda-developers.com], never had a random reboot ever. Or if you want something simple there is CleanROM [xda-developers.com]. There is a good lists here [grantbarker.com].

Phillip.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about a year ago | (#43694125)

It really is a shame and is somewhat the fault of the massive ecosystem. When you have hundreds of devices you attempt to support from a small community you ultimately end up with bugs. I would suggest not giving up. For your sad story of an unreliable phone there have been hundreds of perfectly happy Android users. If you stick to the most popular devices with a very standard set of hardware (Samsung Galaxy Series, or Nexus devices) you ultimately end up with quite a reliable device. I ran early nightly alpha builds of CM10 on my Galaxy S and aside from the list of known faults (reverse camera upsidedown, wifi sleeping not working etc) which were all worked on and fixed the phone has been rock solid.

By the way Samsung suck at writing software but really excel in making hardware. The Samsung Galaxy S was the only phone with a file system that was so slow that an I/O operation could cause the Android system to think the application was locked up and force close it. Yes they are that bad at writing software.

Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43694909)

first and foremost, I want to be able to rely on my device.

Congratulations. You have discovered why iOS devices are so popular. They "just work".

Great so far. Previous monthly was shit though. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43693525)

Running 10.1 RC1 on my Galaxy Nexus now, it uses a lot less memory than the M3 monthly snapshot (450 vs 600 MB). So my phone is a lot snappier now.

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