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Google's House of Cards

Unknown Lamer posted about a year ago | from the remembering-webos dept.

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theodp writes "In 'The Design That Conquered Google,' The New Yorker's Matt Buchanan reports that 'cards' — modeled after real cards — are set to become one of the dominant ways in which Google presents certain types of information to users. The power of a card as a visual-organization metaphor according to Matias Duarte (lead designer of Android), is that 'it makes very clear the atomic unity of things; it's still flexible while creating a kind of regularity.' Hey, maybe that Bill Atkinson was really on to something with that dadgum HyperCard software of his back in the '80s!"

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or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks (3, Informative)

WillAdams (45638) | about a year ago | (#43740637)

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomracks [wikipedia.org]

I just want to see a tool which makes it easy to collect information, sort it out, edit it and keep it all consistent --- been using tools for this since Zoomracks came out, and still haven't found the perfect tool.

Re:or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks (-1, Flamebait)

DisgustingAnus (2925035) | about a year ago | (#43740779)

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Re:or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740901)

I say go for it. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, unless you live in Germany and such a thing is a daily occurrence for you.

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks (-1, Troll)

RectumOfFecesFarts (2925039) | about a year ago | (#43740853)

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Re:or Paul Heckel w/ Zoomracks (2)

marcello_dl (667940) | about a year ago | (#43740921)

or wagn [wagn.org] .

Words (5, Insightful)

Hypotensive (2836435) | about a year ago | (#43740657)

The main advantage of presenting something as a card is that the word "card" is different from the word "page", and people are kind of tired of hearing the word "page" now.

Re:Words (4, Insightful)

tnk1 (899206) | about a year ago | (#43740701)

Well, for those who remember actually making out notecards for school work, there was a sense that a "card" actually represented a different way of presenting data that was more concise, and the understanding that space was at a premium. You also were able to manipulate them a lot more easily than pages of paper, as they were both smaller and made of more rigid stock, so the understanding was that ordering would not always be sequentially in a fixed page order.

Whether that is what people are thinking of today when they talk about "cards", I don't know. It did make sense as a metaphor back in the days of HyperCard, though.

Re:Words (-1, Troll)

DisgustingAnus (2925035) | about a year ago | (#43740813)

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Re:Words (2)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#43740979)

What say you?

Lay on, Macduff, And damned be him that first cries, "Hold, enough!"

Re:Words (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#43741647)

What a piece of work is a man! How noble I
reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving
how express and admirable! In action how like an Angel!
in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the
world! The paragon of animals! And yet to me, what is
this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me; no,
nor Woman neither; though by your smiling you seem
to say so.

Re:Words (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740717)

Googler here. Actually, the problem is internal to Google -- it's too easy to confuse (web) page with (Larry) Page.

Re:Words (-1, Troll)

RectumOfFecesFarts (2925039) | about a year ago | (#43740885)

I see that your cock is giving my rancid anus the eye. Since the last Slashdotter just got done releasing his diseased seed into my repugnant rectum, I suppose I'm free. Why not shove your smelly cock into my asshole and pump until feces forces its way out? What say you?

Re:Words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741491)

I say "huzzah!"

APK

Re:Words (2)

hsmith (818216) | about a year ago | (#43741223)

I also think a "card" forces you to think in a more refined space. It forces you to intelligently (ideally) reduce things down. eg: With a piece of paper you can write forever (a page), with a card, you must condense to utilize the space.

Cards are a decent metaphor for the form factor.

Re:Words (3, Insightful)

fwarren (579763) | about a year ago | (#43742799)

Much like classic FORTH programming widh disk blocks. 1 BLOCK = 1K = 16 lines of 64 characters. Any word/function/definition needed to fit in 15 lines of text (The 1st of the 16 lines was used for comments). You had the ability to extend a definition beyond one screen of text but it was usually considered bad form. Typically if it would not fit, it was natures way of telling you that you did not undertand the problem well enough to code a proper solution. Clarity comes as you are forced to break things down into there smallest components.

Re:Words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741355)

Maybe if they play their cards right this might actually work.

Re:Words (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741683)

Yes. If Hypercard was so incredible, why was it never adapted to the PC.
It was nice, but not that nice.

Re:Words (1)

WillAdams (45638) | about a year ago | (#43744379)

There were a number of HyperCard clones for Windows:

  SuperCard
  Runtime Revolution
  Asymetrix Toolbook

I have a feces-infested asshole. You in? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740669)

My asshole is filled with feces, and it's rather rancid at this point. Why am I telling you this, you ask? Well, I've been hearing dark whispers from my sources on the grapevine; they say that you're looking for a particularly rancid asshole to stick your fetid cock into, and that you absolutely adore cum farts. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone! My repugnant asshole is open to your smelly cock, so feel free to let loose all of your little white tadpole friends inside it! Oh, and as a reward, I'll fart out some feces covered in cum! What say you?

Plus ca change (1)

dsmithhfx (1772254) | about a year ago | (#43740673)

Everything old is old again!

Oh, my eyes! (1)

mariox19 (632969) | about a year ago | (#43740709)

It is slightly overwhelming in its information density compared to most social networks, and its spare use of color around the edges lends it a feeling of lukewarmness.

The mobile interface on Google+ just seems frenetic to me, in a TMI sort of way. Others may like being visually assaulted, but it's not for me.

WebOS (4, Insightful)

dloflin (110712) | about a year ago | (#43740725)

Also sounds like the dominant paradigm in WebOS...

Re:WebOS (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#43740855)

Also sounds like the dominant paradigm in WebOS...

well putting ui/display elements in boxes which separate different elements from each other and also group same kind of elements together... hmm........... yeah that's truly new.

Re:WebOS (4, Interesting)

noahisaac (956470) | about a year ago | (#43741037)

Well, Android became significantly more webOS-like when google poached him from Palm. I hope it continues that trend. I'm very sad that webOS is essentially dead now. The multi-tasking elements of webOS are far superior to that of Android and iOS.

Re:WebOS (2)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | about a year ago | (#43741323)

Have you had a chance to use a version that supports same-screen multitasking yet? On a large enough screen it's basically true desktop style multitasking.

Re:WebOS (5, Informative)

Sabah Arif (830070) | about a year ago | (#43741331)

The similarity to WebOS is no coincidence since Matias Duarte was the chief designer at Palm before moving to Google. He even gave demos at the Pre/WebOS launch.

WebOS (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740749)

Lest we forget Palm did a cards metaphor in WebOS, which was quite excellent.

Google Now creeps me the heck out! I'd feel better about it if it wasn't a Google product. I feel my privacy has a little protection when this stuff isn;t so thoroughly centralized in the hands of a single entity.

Re:WebOS (2)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | about a year ago | (#43741021)

I do believe the chief design guy from WebOS went to Google after Palm folded.

Re:WebOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741669)

Yup, he is the Matias Duarte referenced in the article. And the WebOS UI is still the best one I've used bar none.

Re:WebOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43743873)

and alot of that is cross polinating into android.

PALM may you rest in peace.

Re:WebOS (3, Informative)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a year ago | (#43742093)

If you have a Google account.
Go here. [google.com]
Once you see that you can see exactly what Google knows, and that you can have control over who can see it you will not worry as much.
Google has more info than anyone else, but many places have a lot of info on you. Most hide what they know about you and many sell the raw info.
Google, So far, only uses the info to target ads to you. Not really a bad thing. I would rather see a targeted ad than one for Maxipads or Viagra.
Google also give you quite a bit of control over it. The major plus though is that they do not split it up and make it difficult for you.
Google search, Play store, YouTube, Google Plus, Gmail, Drive and more. All those settings, all that information displayed for you to control in one place.
Name someone else that does that for you.

Re:WebOS (2)

Sporkinum (655143) | about a year ago | (#43742747)

That doesn't work they way you think it works. They have tons more information on you they don't show. Just because you have search history off doesn't mean they don't have it. It only means they don't show it to you.

Concerning WebOS. My wife tried android on her HP touchpad and promptly went back to WebOS. She probably uses the touchpad more than her desktop.

Re:WebOS (1)

PapayaSF (721268) | about a year ago | (#43743631)

Google, so far, only uses the info to target ads to you. Not really a bad thing. I would rather see a targeted ad than one for Maxipads or Viagra.

I think you are missing the point here. The awkwardness and privacy concerns arise from the targeting: e.g. when a middle-aged guy gets a targeted ad for Viagra. Or, in my case, when some Google research about STDs later gave me targeted ads for STD tests.

Re:WebOS (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a year ago | (#43744403)

Go you your dashboard.
Under web search. Remove those searches from you history.
Google will no longer use those searches in targeting ads to you. Simple.

Dude (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43743677)

If you have a Google account.
Go here. [google.com]
Once you see that you can see exactly what Google knows, and that you can have control over who can see it you will not worry as much.
Google has more info than anyone else, but many places have a lot of info on you. Most hide what they know about you and many sell the raw info.
Google, So far, only uses the info to target ads to you. Not really a bad thing. I would rather see a targeted ad than one for Maxipads or Viagra.
Google also give you quite a bit of control over it. The major plus though is that they do not split it up and make it difficult for you.
Google search, Play store, YouTube, Google Plus, Gmail, Drive and more. All those settings, all that information displayed for you to control in one place.
Name someone else that does that for you.

Your response indicates that you either misinformed/uninformed or just plain naive. Google has FAR more data collected about you and your activities than what it displays in your History dashboard. Think about the Google properties, search, Plus, Gmail, Apps, Android, ads everywhere, Voice, Blogger, YouTube, Picasa...

Have you used Google Now? Does your dashboard show when you walk into the airport or any of the other location information that Google constantly collects? Does dashboard show your airline boarding pass? With Google Now, you simply walk into the airport and Now pops up "cards" with flight information boarding pass, car rental and hotel info... It is fantastically cool! The fact that a single source has all that information and that you have little to no control over it is very frightening to me.

Furthermore, that you disable stuff on the dashboard does not mean that Google does not continue to collect, log, "aggregate", track etc. your activities across the web, store that information for at least 18 months and have it readily available for sale to third parties or disclosure to law enforcement agencies or even subpoenas by INDIVIDUALS.

Google is the one stop shop for those wishing to view the expansive dossier that Google has amassed about you. Second behind Google is Facebook, even if you NEVER had a Facebook account or visited Facebook.com!

I have no issue with myriads of people/companies collecting bits of this information in the course of my business and maintaining it in their disparate databases. However, I resent and fear the central all encompassing database that is Google, ripe for the picking. It is a massive tool that someone could use against you. That it hasn't happened, to you, yet doesn't mean that it isn't a threat or that it should be ignored.

Re:Dude (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a year ago | (#43744381)

Who has the Google one stop shop sold all this info to?
As far as I know that information is kept by Google. They have never sold any of. They use it to target the ads you buy better.
They use it to create new products and improve existing ones. They also use that data to kill of some of the stuff they did that I liked. :(
Those disparate databases you feel so safe with are not so hard to combine. In fact people have brought loads of it together to individually identify people accross many websites building very accurate and scary profiles on people. This data has been and will continue to be SOLD.
So...That cat is out of the bag.

Unless you are a full fledged internet master and work hard at staying anonymous and have been doing so for years, internet privacy is not a choice you have.
You need to use many different VPNs ,change your habits often and stay on a disinformation campaign or you simply do not have privacy when it comes to the internet. Period.

So you are either misinformed or naive.

I've always hated this "card" concept (2)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43740765)

I understand it's utility when, say, you enter the name of a nearby store and it presents info about it, its hours, etc; or a plane flight, and it tells you the details of the flight.

But sometimes I just want plain, unadulterated search, based on the terms as entered. I don't even want the card presented first and THEN the search results (as it does now). I JUST WANT SEARCH RESULTS, NO CARDS.

I've turned off ALL the cards, all the Google Now stuff... but it doesn't go away on my Android device. Despite all the settings, there seems no way to completely turn it off.

Bah.

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

marsu_k (701360) | about a year ago | (#43740947)

But sometimes I just want plain, unadulterated search, based on the terms as entered.

Open a browser, type search terms on the address bar, submit?

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43743445)

Well, I meant from the search bar on an Android phone. I think the built-in browser also uses the cards, so I'd need to use the Firefox or Chrome search - not sure even those would work, depending on if they themselves are using Google for their search.

I opened a browser, typed "What time is it in California" and got a "card" for the time in California, which I don't want - just vanilla search results.

So your suggestion doesn't work as such.

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

marsu_k (701360) | about a year ago | (#43743667)

Granted, I don't run vanilla Android anywhere at the moment - but this is what happens both on a stock S3 and Transformer Infinity, running "Browser", i.e. some-webkit-based-browser-that's-not-Chrome. I'm sorry if this is a WORKSFORME-type of response.

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43743891)

I'm running stock vanilla Android on a Galaxy Nexus.

Lemme check here:

"What time is it in California" using:

Google Search Bar: 1st response is a 'card'
Android Stock Browser: 1st response is a 'card'
Firefox for Android: 1st response is a "card" (but scaled down in size - Google is default Firefox search engine)
Chrome for Android: 1st response is a "card" (full sized - Google is also default search engine)
DuckDuckGo: 1st response is a "card", but it looks like a different implementation - it says "Computer by WolframJAlpha" on it
Bing: No "card" - though I do get a summary of a world-time page as the first result ... so it looks like... THERE IS NO ESCAPE! :-(

I'll recheck my Android settings and see if there's anything else I need to turn off. Perhaps after some recent updates they were reset.

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43743901)

Typo - "Computed by WolframJAlpha"

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

marsu_k (701360) | about a year ago | (#43744081)

It sounds really annoying, and I'm sorry I'm not able to help you. Perhaps Google offers a different Google "experience" on Nexus devices? On a totally unrelated note - boy does the new Slashdot mobile site suck. I never read this via my mobile due to the "competence" of /. web devs, just occasionally check responses to comments. It seems to go into an infinite loop of replies, I'm able to see our discussion repeated ad infinitum. *golf clap*

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43744433)

I haven't tried the mobile site lately - I gave up when it was taking forever for them to fix the bug of thumb-scroll being reeeeeeeeely slow, but I've heard they fixed that since.

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

marsu_k (701360) | about a year ago | (#43744275)

Actually, trying your example query, the first response I get is a "card" as well. Perhaps my queries are usually so obscure / I use bookmarks too much that these don't appear? But... it's a single "card". One flick of the thumb and it's out of the view, the "card" doesn't show in subsequent result pages. This really is your issue? I'd be infinitely pissed if those were all the search results, but as such... really, not such a big deal, in my opinion.

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43744447)

Yes, just a single card - not a whole result set of them. Not a horrible problem, no indeed, but there's also often a delay between the first 'card' result and the rest of the results, which is annoying. It's as if Google is saying "You want this one, right?" and waiting for a bit, and then going to search for the rest of the results if I stay on the results page.

I just want the result immediately, not a "You want THIS, right? right? ... okay, I guess you might want something else - I'll go get some more results" behavior.

Not the worst problem I could have, but I just want to be able to control that behavior, to completely disable the "do what I mean" kind of thing it's doing there.

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (2)

alostpacket (1972110) | about a year ago | (#43741095)

You can disable Google Now (I think) and just use the search. Check the setting in Google Now, and/or try disabling the Google Now app itself from your device's main settings > apps.

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

bessie (212155) | about a year ago | (#43743467)

I disabled it through all possible means (disabled all cards individually, disabled cards/Google Now generally. It reduces their number, but not entirely... as I mention above, for example, I type "What time is it in California" and get a "card" saying "It's 5 oclock in California" or whatever. I don't want that, I want search results only, no "guessing what I REALLY want" stuff.

I can get around it through using other browsers' search functions, perhaps, or alternative search apps like DuckDuckGo.

It'd just be nice if Google let me turn it off completely.

- Tim

Re:I've always hated this "card" concept (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about a year ago | (#43745497)

I disabled it through all possible means (disabled all cards individually, disabled cards/Google Now generally. It reduces their number, but not entirely... as I mention above, for example, I type "What time is it in California" and get a "card" saying "It's 5 oclock in California" or whatever. I don't want that, I want search results only

Those aren't Google Now, which is why disabling everything in Now has no effect on them. Those are search results (I think the cards are all technically part of Knowledge Graph) which (like the calculator results introduced much earlier) are core functionality of Google Search.

Do not want. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740767)

If I wanted to use a card catalog I'd print off pages of search results on 3x5 cards.

Nothing is easier than line by line search results sorted by most relevant. All making them virtual card shaped will do is add more room for advertisement, which after all is the real play here.

Not the house of cards I was thinking of (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740787)

And here I was thinking the article would have been about how Google's search engine and personalization features are degrading the quality of its services to the point the whole company will collapse from the ground up as leaner competitors figure out how to do more with less.

Re:Not the house of cards I was thinking of (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | about a year ago | (#43740871)

And here I was thinking the article would have been about how Google's search engine and personalization features are degrading the quality of its services to the point the whole company will collapse from the ground up as leaner competitors figure out how to do more with less.

Good Luck with that. Google, Facebook, Twitter are the new GM, Ford, Chrysler (not in that order necessarily). They are so big that the scale they leverage is untouchable to any newcomers to the market, no matter how lean or competitive they may be. It will be many years before the internet-era equivalent of the electric car comes along to shake up the industry, and a few more after that before the industry is actually shaken. Once your company is valued in the tens/hundreds of billions, competition gets squashed long before it has a chance at challenging you.

Er...like Powerpoint? Or Windows 8? (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year ago | (#43740817)

>> neat card in a stack

So...one card at a time, with a primarily forward/back interface...like PowerPoint?

>> On a large monitor, the grid spans three cards wide; on a smaller one, just two.

Oh no - didn't we just get Microsoft to retreat from THAT metaphor?

Re:Er...like Powerpoint? Or Windows 8? (1)

alostpacket (1972110) | about a year ago | (#43741319)

It's more of a list view/ grid view. I'm curious in particular what do you think is bad UX ?

Re:Er...like Powerpoint? Or Windows 8? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43742097)

It's not bad per se, but Microsoft has a long history of making the implementation suck. How many ribbons are going to be on the top, sides, bottom? Plus setting(s) window(s), advanced window(s), etc.

Windows Live Tiles (1)

guanxi (216397) | about a year ago | (#43740865)

Hey, maybe that Bill Atkinson was really on to something with that dadgum HyperCard software of his back in the '80s!"

And perhaps Microsoft is onto something applying it to current OS interfaces with Live Tiles.

Re:Windows Live Tiles (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about a year ago | (#43745527)

And perhaps Microsoft is onto something applying it to current OS interfaces with Live Tiles.

Certainly Microsoft (and many others; they weren't the only ones doing similar things) were on to something a long time ago when they first came up with the UI design principles that evolved into the "Metro" design language, which whatever the problems are with the way they've done some of the concrete implementations, the basic principles are sound,

Stand by ... (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#43740883)

... for the inevitable patent in three, two, one ....

fuck cards (-1, Troll)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#43740897)

... and fuck you, for liking them.

I remember Hypercard! (2)

dragonard (261270) | about a year ago | (#43740905)

Did consulting work for BP back in the '80s when they were strictly a Mac shop. Hypercard was used extensively in homebrew apps like BP's MSDN stack.

Re:I remember Hypercard! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741175)

MSDN is the Microsoft Developer Network. From context, I think you mean Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS).

without a person who understands design (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740907)

From the article.

[Google] as late as 2009, according to its first visual designer, Douglas Bowman, was “without a person at (or near) the helm who thoroughly understands the principles and elements of Design.”

and also

Larry Page took over as C.E.O. Besides moving to streamline Google’s increasingly sprawling scope as a company, [and] he immediately launched Project Kennedy, an initiative to give all of Google’s products a more consistent look, so everything would be easier to use.

Thank God someone's finally looking to the design of Google, so it will no longer be cursed with the most famously easy to use search page that every other search engine on earth chose to imitate. /s

Seriously, Google has always been a favorite because of its good design. Saying it suffered from a lack of designers is more evidence that designers suck than that Google had a problem.

Re:without a person who understands design (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | about a year ago | (#43741001)

this. the interface of google's services is becoming nicer to look at and harder to actually use. I dare you to try to sign out from gmail on a cellphone. an android cellphone. open the gmail page in the main browser, and sign in. and sign out is nowhere.

speak to the browser dude.... (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | about a year ago | (#43741753)

"Google, Signout"

Got it man!

Re:without a person who understands design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741577)

Seriously, Google has always been a favorite because of its good design. Saying it suffered from a lack of designers is more evidence that designers suck than that Google had a problem.

I take it you only use Google Search, then?

pro tip - not that hard to build a fucking blank page with a single text box and two buttons. The "design" of the google search page was "speed uber alles," and as such, it was stripped down to bare minimum elements.

The thing is, it takes a lot more work to build something like Gmail, and without "Design" you end up with a fucking late term abortion of a mess. THAT is what designers work on, and THAT is why services like Gmail and Hangouts are actually becoming usable in their web forms.

Re: without a person who understands design (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741857)

Yet before those designers came along, gmail was the cleanest and easiest-to-use webmail client around. Or do you not remember when it was up against hotmail and yahoomail?

Relatedly, if a simple search page were so easy, Google wouldn't have been unique in having one. The difficulty in design is not in something being difficult to execute, but in choosing the right thing to execute.

Google has a long history of good design execution that has only lately begun to slide.

francis urquhart (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43740913)

You might say that - I couldn't possibly comment.

Card-carrying member (1)

GerryHattrick (1037764) | about a year ago | (#43740923)

Didn't we all have to do virtual 'cards' in 'decks' when offering WML to Nokia phones, in far off days when they were the main force? Didn't seem to last long, but it's still part of my elderly Dreamveaver.

Metro (4, Insightful)

jader3rd (2222716) | about a year ago | (#43740977)

The power of a card as a visual-organization metaphor according to Matias Duarte (lead designer of Android), is that 'it makes very clear the atomic unity of things; it's still flexible while creating a kind of regularity.'

So... they're Live Tiles?

Re:Metro (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year ago | (#43741719)

Live Tiles are a kind of card, but not all cards are Live Tiles.

Re:Metro (1)

schlachter (862210) | about a year ago | (#43743697)

Of course not. They're dashboard Widgets.

Points for style (4, Informative)

Halo5 (63934) | about a year ago | (#43741035)

I don't really have an opinion on cards one way or another but, as a Southerner, I applaud the proper use of the word "dadgum." I haven't seen that one in a while...

Everything? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741039)

Everything is a file, everything is a card, everything is a widget, everything is an object, a webpage?

Aren't these all the same damn concept. Come up with a single abstract "item" then treat pretty much everything like that.

The name is just an easy way to conceptualize it.

Personally I grasped the "file" as anything, then the "object" came quite naturally. I see a "card" as a particular representation of an abstract "object"

Re:Everything? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43741247)

Everything is a file
everything is a card
everything is a widget
everything is an object

BURMA SHAVE

Re:Everything? (3, Interesting)

Fri13 (963421) | about a year ago | (#43741703)

I love the old idea "Everything is a file", but I hate that today everything in Windows is something behind complex graphical userinterface and files are hided. Same can be said from iOS, Windows Phone and even from Android.

That is one reason why I like Unix systems like Linux systems with KDE, as I really get access to files most of the times.

I want that every email is a single file and that file is renamed by the subject and sender, file metadata includes the file timestamp when it was received and I can manipulate the email with any text editor and even write one with such.

I love the simplcity what Xerox did in Xerox Star, have a simple outbox and inbox directories on desktop where you can drop files to be sent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=315s [youtube.com]

It should really be so easy at office, between family and friends computers (in different buildings/countries) just to drag and drop files to other computer. It was impossible at baud modem time but now when many have started to have 1024/512KBits connections and even many has wider bandwith, it would not be problem to drop few text files, few pictures and even couple songs to be transferred to other computer.

Welcome back SSH and network transparency.

At some point people should get noticed that all these "cloud services" are just stupid, that saving time and money it is simpler just to go and buy a cheap Plug-PC and attach USB drive to it and let it connect to your home network and you get NAS what to be binded to computers and get access to it from Internet by those who you want to get access. 250-500GB storage would be enough for most students (expect those who are downloading warez etc).

Or if the space isn't so much required, a cheap 20 buck Android phone with 32-64GB MicroSD card makes wonderful NAS with correct software, it doesn't even require power so much and as you can have attached webcam, microphone and speaker + some other sensors, it can be home security system as well.

Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI (1)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about a year ago | (#43741123)

Wait for iOS 7 to come out with a flat UI and cards and then they will sue Samsung and Google for ripping off their UI "again".

Re:Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#43741939)

HyperCard [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Wait for Apple to patent "cards" UI (1)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about a year ago | (#43742241)

Come on, the damn summary already provided an Apple product that shipped for a decade or so that uses this idea.

I know that this is Slashdot, where nobody actually reads the article, but it's in the summary!

Was sorry to see hypercard go. (1)

goffster (1104287) | about a year ago | (#43741431)

When you think of devices with small screens,
the idea of a card paradigm is better than a "page" or a "screen".

The distinction is important. People intuitively know that a card usually
expresses a single idea, and that is likely to be part of a larger collection
of cards (frequently sequential)

So Kudos to Google, and I hope they can make it work.

187.325 mm x 82.55 mm (1)

havana9 (101033) | about a year ago | (#43741503)

I think the best size for card to put some data on is 187.325 mm x 82.55 mm. The card should be put face down, nine edge first.

Will he change his name now, (5, Funny)

fredrated (639554) | about a year ago | (#43741525)

to Larry Card?

Cards == Water wings (1)

ElitistWhiner (79961) | about a year ago | (#43741657)

' Cards' are a superior knowledge design element to wading pool depths of 3 deep for learning. For ocean depths and deeper universes, ' Cards' are water-wings for competitive swimmers.

Everything old is new again (1)

tekrat (242117) | about a year ago | (#43741721)

How long until there's a great game for mobile devices which is a 3-D rendered mystery with puzzles to figure out an an errie, Mysty world to explore.... Ohh, can't wait!

Yet Another Remake? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43742081)

I thought Netflix's "House Of Cards" was pretty good. Don't know why we need another version so soon...

Who cares for you? (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about a year ago | (#43742201)

You're nothing but a pack of cards!

Cards (1)

mpdolan37 (675902) | about a year ago | (#43742285)

Sound a lot like Popup windows to me... and in my humble experience users don't like popup windows. Maybe that was just because a popup usually meant something wrong.

trello (4, Interesting)

thegreatemu (1457577) | about a year ago | (#43742377)

As a good example, you should take a look at trello [trello.com] , which is basically an organization/design/progress list tool, where each atomic activity is represented by a card. I've been using it extensively for about a year now, and the card+board metaphor really seems to make intuitive sense to everyone I've introduced to it.

Been there, done that (2)

Animats (122034) | about a year ago | (#43742553)

If you're running on Windows 7 or Vista, press CTRL, TAB and the "Windows key" at the same time and watch what happens.

That's "cards" mode. Did you know Windows could do that? Is it useful?

Re:Been there, done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43742883)

Not working in the Classic Windows theme. My browser did switch tabs, however.

Re:Been there, done that (2)

nickersonm (1646933) | about a year ago | (#43743179)

WinKey+Tab is an alternate presentation of the standard Alt+Tab window. I don't find it particularly useful, but I imagine someone does. Perhaps when working with many similar windows?

Re:Been there, done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43743787)

It's like a shitty Expose clone!
WTG, MS! next time you copy OSX, try to copy the good parts too!

Re:Been there, done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43744565)

As nickersonm already pointed out: it's actually just WIN+TAB, not CTRL+WIN+TAB.

Try it and then apply desk to forehead.

deja vu all over again (1)

peter303 (12292) | about a year ago | (#43742967)

As a cousin of mine is accused of saying. Motifs come, leave and return in computer science as in any other discipline. Bill Atkinsons HyperCard was vey good. Web browser URLs supplanted this several later. But URLs never really captured the geometric metaphors possible in Bill's systems (chains, grids, loop, decks, etc.) .

Android was...designed?!?? (1)

jddj (1085169) | about a year ago | (#43743009)

I thought a bus full of icons and widgets collided with a touch UI...

(this from a daily Android phone and tablet user...)

3 columns is no good (1)

Parker Lewis (999165) | about a year ago | (#43743403)

In this G+ UI update, I really hate the 3 columns of cards layout. Very hard to find info. I can switch to 1 column only, but: 1 - Do not works on communities; 2 - The column keeps using a small width, instead of use more side space.

How is this different than Microsoft Live Tiles? (1)

elabs (2539572) | about a year ago | (#43743635)

The "Metro" live tiles are small animated cards. They even flip and float like real cards when you interact with them.

Cards = the Google Brand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43743921)

Let's remember where Matias Duarte came from -- Palm after the HP fiasco. If you look at his previous body of work, including WebOS you will see the "card" design theme throughout. In WebOS it was simple, elegant and intuitive. But Palm's hardware was awful and detracted from the whole experience. Google's challenge will be to take their fragmented product lines and unify them on the UI level where appropriate so that google's UI design becomes part of its brand. They're getting there. A big challenge: Android. The open source nature of android has invited fragmentation by both hardware and software vendors -- each manufacturer and developer riffing on the android theme with various hardware configurations and a proliferation of "skins" over the stock UI. The result has been a robust but confusing landscape of products and services that seem to lack a cohesive vision, branding, or strategy that can leave users feeling a little bewildered, as in "Which button do I need to push now to do what I want to do?" Cards might be the answer. Will Android and other google products and services become a reprise of WebOS? Does HP own any IP that Google is using in its new efforts? I guess we'll see.

Hey, anyone remember Digital's Notes? (1)

R. M. Dasheff (2598713) | about a year ago | (#43744571)

... that's Digital Equipment Corporation m'boy, the mommy of the VAX (and other stuff.) There was an extensive network (the dearly departed DECNET) wide repository of "knowledge" called "Notes" [wordpress.com] . If I were to squint and stress my gray matter, I might be able to recall that Xerox/PARC had a similar unstructured knowledge base. Now you got me imagining tons of organizations that had these hordes of "useful information." No, that can't be. Sorry. Forget all this stuff.
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