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Google's Nexus Q Successor Hits the FCC

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the h-2-g-2-is-a-good-name dept.

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With the kind of cagey phrasing found in many such electronics approval applications, Google describes a device that some are taking to be the successor to its discontinued Nexus Q thus: "The device functions as a media player." From the article: "Some of the specs of the device includes a 2.4GHz WiFi b/g/n connectivity. The FCC report does not contain test photos so we do not know what the device looks like. It is likely that the H840 will support Google Play Music All Access and will have similar functionality as a Sonos media player that can be connected to external speakers."

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Does it contain a dog? (2)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | about a year and a half ago | (#43768973)

All good devices contain at least one dog, unless they belong to Fred, who is a minion of SATAN.

Re:Does it contain a dog? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43769013)

All good devices contain at least one dog, unless they belong to Fred, who is a minion of SATAN.

Based on the way elements are broken down and used in other applications, there is quite likely a small part of a dog in every device.

Re:Does it contain a dog? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43770449)

All good devices contain at least one dog, unless they belong to Fred, who is a minion of SATAN.

Based on the way elements are broken down and used in other applications, there is quite likely a small part of a dog in every device.

Nevermind the way elements are used - if it's assembled in china, it most likely has some dog/cat/children in it.

Discontinued? (5, Insightful)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43768991)

That thing died faster than the Kin - can we really refer to it as "discontinued" when it was pretty much stillborn?

On the plus side, its successor has a very, very low bar to clear...

Re:Discontinued? (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769083)

All it has to do is be able to stream local content and not be completely locked to google and we will have a winner.

Re:Discontinued? (3, Interesting)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769113)

Roku boxes and Apple TVs can already do this AND offer access to external services like Netflix and Hulu - for under a hundred bucks. Heck, my LG television has a Plex client built in - no extra box is even needed to get at my own stuff.

So I'm not sure why most people would be interested in a box that only handles local content - but maybe you mean "local" differently than I'm interpreting it.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770899)

Hell go to Amazon and you'll find dozens to choose from under a hundred bucks, stuff like WDTV Live, hell if all he wants is to stream local content there are a ton of Chinese players that can do that under $80.

So I really don't see what the selling point of this is, surely there aren't enough Google fanboys out there willing to shell out to make this thing profitable, see the player that Google and Logitech put out (revue i think?) for an example.

Re:Discontinued? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43772787)

One of the odd (neither good nor bad, just different) distinctions of the Q was that it also contained an amplifier. Rokus don't have that, nor do the other three dozen products on the market just like the Roku.

Re:Discontinued? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43775265)

...For the same reason Apple fanatics buy anything that has an Apple logo stamped on it...

Re:Discontinued? (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770599)

All it has to do is be able to stream local content and not be completely locked to google and we will have a winner.

Why? I can't see anything particularly good about it over existing products.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

Miamicanes (730264) | about a year and a half ago | (#43771783)

Correction: be able to stream local content, not be locked to Google, and be both rootable & reflashable so it won't end up in landfills like the Revue and original Nexus Q did.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769093)

yeah, it's a bit of a fuck you to anyone who bought one to stop support in google play for it.

I guess all those few people who actually got one should have instead gotten a cheap ass 80 bucks android-for-tv device and an amplifier. would have been cheaper too and more versatile. I got no idea why they had to appletvify it instead of just letting it have regular android.. it's not like "what's an android?" customers were going to buy it anyways.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

hedwards (940851) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769123)

Not really, didn't Google wind up just giving them away for free? They realized there were problems before they actually released it, and I thought that they had given them away.

I personally hope that they have the good sense to not make it spherical again. Set top boxes are generally cuboids for a reason.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769133)

That would make a lot of sense - a more or less Stock Android TV box.

Heck, I've been wondering why Apple hasn't opened the Apple TV up to developers, given its already running iOS.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

jrumney (197329) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770397)

Heck, I've been wondering why Apple hasn't opened the Apple TV up to developers, given its already running iOS.

Perhaps because it is running the marketing version of iOS, not the developer version.

Re:Discontinued? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43770797)

Heck, I've been wondering why Apple hasn't opened the Apple TV up to developers, given its already running iOS.

To do what? It's made as a simple streaming box, if you want iOS apps the idea is you stream them from your iOS device, if you want Mac apps you stream them from your Mac.

Re:Discontinued? (5, Informative)

Bill Dimm (463823) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769135)

yeah, it's a bit of a fuck you to anyone who bought one to stop support in google play for it.

Uhm, nobody bought one. Google gave them away for free [androidpolice.com] to anyone that pre-ordered them.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769753)

yeah, it's a bit of a fuck you to anyone who bought one to stop support in google play for it.

Uhm, nobody bought one. Google gave them away for free [androidpolice.com] to anyone that pre-ordered them.

oh, missed that.

so much for made in usa.

Not sure it dies, it was given away (2, Insightful)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769121)

That thing died faster than the Kin

I's argue it was never released(it was essentially a gift to early adopters)...and for some fairly obvious reasons. The price was high for a an arm box however many leds you have on it, when Rasberry Pi, Ouya, Android TV can be had for peanuts, and it had no real purpose...mystery media box.

It was pulled early, and it was the right choice, in a manner respectful of customers. Google earned good Public relations from this from it.

Re:Discontinued? (1)

Albanach (527650) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769365)

It wasn't really discontinued, since it was never really launched.

Frankly it's something lots of other manufacturers could learn from - even when you're ready and about to launch, if you realize the product is below par it's better to count your loses than to launch something substandard.

No one will buy this. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43769001)

The product offerings from Microsoft are vastly superior in every way.

Re:No one will buy this. (4, Funny)

Servaas (1050156) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769057)

How's that Zune working out for you?

Re:No one will buy this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43769091)

About as well as Windows RT is going

Success is not not measured by numbers, It's measured by... Developers! Developers! Developers!

Re:No one will buy this. (3, Funny)

hedwards (940851) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769127)

I thought it was inverse to the number of chairs thrown...

It became the interface for Windows 8 (4, Funny)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769105)

How's that Zune working out for you?

...it became the interface to Windows phone...and destroyed Nokia.

...it became the interface to Windows 8...and destroyed the Desktop Market.

Re:It became the interface for Windows 8 (2)

Nemyst (1383049) | about a year and a half ago | (#43771155)

And yet, it was arguably an excellent media player.

Re:It became the interface for Windows 8 (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43771967)

Do not try to sell the Zune — that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: there is no Zune.

Re:No one will buy this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43771445)

It's been a very good mp3 player for me, which makes sense because it got good reviews.

It's a shame that people around here don't evaluate technology based on its merits and instead evaluate it on fanboyism and what's trendy.

What Microsoft Device? (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769101)

The product offerings from Microsoft are vastly superior in every way.

There have been rumours of a xbox-without console functionality...we will call it an xbox live device, which would have been an incredible device a few years ago, but today with smart TV, AndroidTV and AppleTV (The non-fictional product), all available for a few dollars.

Ironically in context of your comment right now their is a massive rush in Android gaming from a company willing to Nurture it if Google is going to continue its support. The xbox itselfs future is threatened however good it is.

Re:What Microsoft Device? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43769109)

Go and lay down. Even for you, this post makes little sense. I've told you before. If you can't post sensibly, don't post at all.

Gaming on Android will never be good enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43770605)

Android's main problem is the sluggishness by design. And that is a death sentence for real gaming.

Re:No one will buy this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43771335)

The product offerings from Microsoft are vastly superior in every way.

HAHAHA That's funny. Microsoft makes nothing but shitty products and that'll never change.

Re:No one will buy this. (0)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43771987)

microsoft windows is like a toilet bowl... they may both be shitty but everyone still uses them

H2G2-42 (4, Insightful)

mspohr (589790) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769117)

The summary left out the most important part! The model number is H2G2-42!
This, of course, to everyone (except the submitter) is a not so veiled reference to Hitchhikers Guide.
This article explains it better: http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/18/will-googles-new-nexus-q-the-h2g2-42-be-the-answer-to-life-the-universe-and-everything/ [venturebeat.com]

Re:H2G2-42 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43769423)

will-googles-new-nexus-q-the-h2g2-42-be-the-answer-to-life-the-universe-and-everything/

We KNOW the answer. I was hoping it would give us the question.

Re:H2G2-42 (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#43772001)

H2G2

help me obe wan kenobe... you're my only hope

Excited again by this (0)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769137)

I so hope thy have this right this time. Powerful, Vanilla Nexus TV to show those cheap Android TV how its done. Hell look at those ports (not enough last time), and put in a killer chip this time. For god sake have some kind of plan for software...and please please think about the price. I bought an Ouya sight unseen, this I know is a better device, but that does not mean I am willing to pay three times the cost.

"Google Play Music All Access" (3, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769511)

Wonder how long "Google Play Music All Access" will last? Compared to PlaysForSure [wikipedia.org] (Microsoft), Zune Music Pass [wikipedia.org] (Microsoft), and WalMart Music Download Service. [walmart.com] Just having a big company behind it is no guarantee of success. Google has never had a successful consumer product that people had to pay for.

List of discontinued Google products. [wikipedia.org]

Google a massive success (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769611)

Google has never had a successful consumer product that people had to pay for.

You mean like the Nexus Range or Android perhaps the most disruptive consumer devices today. Although its list of successful products is legendary.

List of Discontinues Microsoft Products http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Microsoft_software [wikipedia.org]
List of Discontinued Apple Products http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_discontinued_by_Apple_Inc [wikipedia.org] .

The bottom line is though Microsoft destroyed playforsure (and its partners, to Apples Joy) for the sake of Zune (re-badged as Windows Phone :). Music streaming services are popular here is a list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_online_music_databases [wikipedia.org]

Android is not a paid consumer product (1)

Animats (122034) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769721)

You mean like the Nexus Range or Android

The Android line is not a paid consumer product. It's a piece of middleware offered to phone manufacturers.

Android is definitely consumer product (0)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769825)

The Android line is not a paid consumer product. It's a piece of middleware offered to phone manufacturers.

No it is defiantly a consumer product (Perhaps the most successful this year)...I would argue a collection of products. The most obvious one being the Play store...where consumers pay money towards Google in return for Applications, Movies, Books...ans in context of your ridiculous point Music. Its incredibly successful.

However you paint it Google has been incredibly successful, at putting products into consumers hands, they fact that they have a variety of means to monetise its many consumer product is simply a bonus.

Re:Android is definitely consumer product (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770089)

You don't pay for any of the Android stuff, you pay for a device which can run it and then you get it. Sure, you can easily pay for software, but you're not paying for the basic functionality. All of that is gratis. At worst you go to goo and get the gapps for your device, and maybe twiddle build.prop such that you can actually use the store, and then google will happily treat you the same as any other user.

Since you're not paying for Android, Android is not a consumer product. It's not like Windows where you can get it free or you can pay for it; you can only get it free. Perhaps there's some for-pay Android-on-PC efforts by now, I'm not sure. But community replacements for official software stacks are generally donationware and nobody has harassed me for money yet.

Still not true (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770217)

You don't pay for any of the Android stuff, you pay for a device which can run it

Ignoring your waffle, and Ignoring the fact everything else is refuted so we are arguing semantics. I find it deeply ironic that anyone on here does not understand that that people are buying Samsung/LG/Sony etc hardware but Google software (the fact that Google does not get their money directly is irrelevant, they roll around on money from the play store, and have not only prevented bring locked out of a market by the old abusive duopoly they lead it, making more money in what they are good at.) especially since everyone here understands how incredibly dated Apple hardware is(and why its increasingly looking in trouble), or why Nokia is circling the drain because of choosing the loser Operating System.

Argue with someone else 900Million activations smells of success, btw did you know that users are buying 2.5% more from the play store.

Re:Still not true (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43770779)

Stop this stupidity! Acting as though Google is not now the leader in an abusive duopoly is just blatant ignorance. With private APIs (web and on-device), various privacy violations, the bait-and-switch of gmail exchange support (they now require you to pay for google apps) and their microsoft-like EEE of RSS readers with Google Reader they are just abusive and evil as Apple or Microsoft.

What is Evil (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770925)

they are just abusive and evil as Apple or Microsoft.

I always like this quote when I think about evil, from Representative Chris Smith, a Republican from New Jersey about Google’s withdrawal from China "A remarkable, historic and welcomed action." Smith also had some harsh words for Microsoft "They [Microsoft] need to get on the right side of human rights rather than enabling tyranny, which they’re doing right now."

maybe not quite as abusive or evil as Apple or Microsoft ;)

Re:What is Evil (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43771599)

Actually the use of the term 'human rights' obviously fooled you into taking that more seriously than any facts about it are actually worth, well played on the part of the representative, you swallowed everything he served up. In the end Google didn't push for freedom of information or for 'human rights', they just bailed. But in any case every point I listed stands and the more dominant position Google takes the worse things become for the consumer.

Re:Android is definitely consumer product (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about a year and a half ago | (#43774137)

No it is defiantly a consumer product

Really, now?

Re:"Google Play Music All Access" (1)

EdZ (755139) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769613)

Well, it's a streaming system not a download-to-not-own DRMed system, so a better comparison would be Pandora, Spotify et al. Personally, I'd rather purchase tracks and have them available offline to do with what I will (plus most of my music is not even available on streaming services, so I couldn't use them if I wanted to), but if you want to avoid the effort and would prefer something closer to a 'custom radio station' then subscription services are much of a muchness. With google backing it, and locked in competition with Apple, I can't see them dropping it anytime soon.

If you're talkimg about regular Google Play music downloads, rather than the newly launched streaming service, those are DRM-free.

Re:"Google Play Music All Access" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43771585)

Also it's US only and will likely stay like that for quite a while.
The music rights 'market' is one of the hardest mazes of passages all alike to navigate. Each country needs separate negotiations, contracts, etc.
For one I don't believe it will ever come to Germany in its current form. Google is in an ongoing dispute with the local reproduction rights agency, so they'll either cut out all the 'radio' functionality and go with a cut down explicitly licensed catalogue or skip the market all together.

Will it be US made as the Q was? (1)

sethstorm (512897) | about a year and a half ago | (#43769729)

Would be a change for them to have another product that isn't as Third-World encumbered as most electronics seem to be.

Re:Will it be US made as the Q was? (2)

Miamicanes (730264) | about a year and a half ago | (#43771801)

You have it wrong. The third-world products are mostly UN-encumbered. It's the products meant for sale in the US, Japan, and Europe that end up gimped and crippled into proprietary uselessness.

2.4 GHz wifi connectivity is worthless. (2)

m.dillon (147925) | about a year and a half ago | (#43770897)

If it doesn't have 5 GHz wifi connectivity it's worthless. 2.4 GHz connectivity interferes with bluetooth (read: music streaming over bluetooth), regardless of what fancy protocols they say they might be running to reduce interference. I have yet to find a 2.4 GHz wifi device that doesn't cause gaps in music playback over bluetooth.

-Matt

Re:2.4 GHz wifi connectivity is worthless. (1)

LiENUS (207736) | about a year and a half ago | (#43771043)

Why would you stream music over bluetooth when the Nexus Q was designed with an amplifier built in intended to be hooked up to your speakers...

Re:2.4 GHz wifi connectivity is worthless. (1)

Shirley Marquez (1753714) | about a year and a half ago | (#43774383)

Headphones?

Re:2.4 GHz wifi connectivity is worthless. (1)

LiENUS (207736) | about a year and a half ago | (#43775991)

So you're going to use your phone as a remote controller (remember this device only streams media off of google play nothing local and it has no user interface so you need another android tablet to do this) to choose songs and then rather than just using your phone to play the media you play it through the Nexus Q but use bluetooth so you're stuck in one room and can't move around...

But can it run Windows 8? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43771053)

... (chuckles to self).

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