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3D Printers For Peace Contest

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the peace-love-and-toner dept.

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First time accepted submitter Bas_Wijnen writes "3D printing is being condemned in the media because of the potential for printing guns. Engineers at Michigan Tech believe there is far more potential for 3D printers to make our lives better rather than killing one another. To encourage thinking about constructive uses of 3D printing technology Michigan Tech Open Sustainability Technology (MOST) Lab and Type A Machines sponsor the first 3-D Printers for Peace Contest. Designers are encouraged to consider: If Mother Theresa of Ghandi had access to 3D printing what would they print? What kind of designs could help reduce military spending and conflict while making us all safer and more secure? Anyone in the United States may enter and there is no cost."

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Armor? (5, Funny)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a year ago | (#43798935)

3D print kevlar body armor, or maybe a ceramic ballistic plate?

Re:Armor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43798967)

Although, it doesn't seem peacfeul to be wearing armor. Kindof like a "hit me, just see if it care" sort of attitude.
Remember, Ghandi's protests were just people sitting down or standing without any protection at all.
Perhaps one could emulate such a thing?

Re:Armor? (4, Funny)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a year ago | (#43798999)

Ghandi's protests were just people sitting down or standing without any protection at all. Perhaps one could emulate such a thing?

I guess you could 3D print a diner and then just sit in it.....

Re:Armor? (2)

rwa2 (4391) | about a year ago | (#43799519)

Oooh, you just had to go the self-immolation route, you insensitive clod!

Oh, EMulate. OK.

Re:Armor? (1, Interesting)

Scarletdown (886459) | about a year ago | (#43799203)

In later years, Gandhi would actually print up some kickass weaponry, then go party and have a steak...medium rare. [youtube.com]

Not sure what Mother Theresa would print. But I do know it would not be condoms or any sort of birth control devices for the impoverished masses in the Third World countries she worked in.

Re:Armor? (3, Funny)

shri (17709) | about a year ago | (#43799703)

You got it all wrong. We're discussing "Mother Theresa OF Ghandi" ... time to load up google maps and discover this harbinger of peace who can program 3D printers. :)

Re:Armor? (2)

LifesABeach (234436) | about a year ago | (#43799375)

For sitting down, how about chairs?

Just wanna say (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799363)

Guns aren't about "killing one another."

A credible threat of retaliatory violence is the single most effective deterrent to actual violence.

Guns are about stopping YOU from attacking ME. Having it can make that possible even if I never use it to kill anyone.

Re:Just wanna say (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799541)

Guns aren't about "killing one another."

A credible threat of retaliatory violence is the single most effective deterrent to actual violence.

Guns are about stopping YOU from attacking ME. Having it can make that possible even if I never use it to kill anyone.

You are using logic. The Libtards really hate that because they cannot refute it. They have to mod you down (done), call you names, scream at you, defame and mischaracterize you, and then pat themselves on the back for championing their ideology and its favorite methods.

What they WILL NOT do is explain why mass shootings almost always happen in "gun free" zones where law-abiding citizens are unarmed, explain why conceal-carry permits decrease violent crime, explain why places like Chicago with terribly restrictive gun laws have such high murder rates, or explain how the "zero tolerance" schools they run benefit children in any way when they expel them for point a frenchfry at another child and saying "bang bang" like the cops-and-robbers games children have always played. Oh, but even the most avid gun-grabber politicians want their guards to be armed. Because somehow, that's different. They are more special than the rest of us, you see.

You see, it is not that they don't want to explain those things. They would love to. They simply cannot. They are not reasonable people. They are highly emotional and emotionally volatile. Your post was on-topic, was not trolling, etc. But they modded it down anyway. It went against their ideology, you see. They had to mod it down for the same reason the Catholic Church had to refuse to look through Galileo's telescope (and then punish him). Galileo did nothing wrong. You have done nothing wrong.

You know how the rabid foaming-at-the-mouth Linux zealots only hurt the adoption of Linux? That's what this kind of childish emotion does to those who might have been sympathetic towards whatever merits Liberalism might have had. Is that so hard to understand?

Easy answer (4, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#43798951)

Designers are encouraged to consider: If Mother Theresa of Ghandi had access to 3D printing what would they print?

Bread.

Re:Easy answer (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43798995)

Salt

Re:Easy answer (2)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | about a year ago | (#43799019)

Mother Theresa would no doubt have printed a medical tool for removing IUDs.

Re:Easy answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799127)

Gandhi presumably would have printed nothing but enema tubes.

Re:Easy answer (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799457)

You should have more respect for your fellow human. How much birth control does the average person give to impoverished nations? Surely the humanitarian things she did were a positive on people's lives. She's dead and now just a symbol of altruism. Hate the dogma, not the woman.

Re:Easy answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799469)

Don't you just pull on the string?

The AC is right - salt (1)

langelgjm (860756) | about a year ago | (#43799097)

An AC replying to the parent nailed it - Gandhi would have made salt.

Not really, of course, but the point is that Gandhi led the Salt Satyagraha [wikipedia.org] , a major civil disobedience movement protesting the British colonial salt taxes, which made it illegal for individuals to produce and sell their own salt.

I'll leave the analogies to others...

Re:Easy answer (4, Funny)

sgt scrub (869860) | about a year ago | (#43799259)

I was thinking brains. They are dead and would have to be brought back as zombies so it is just logical.

Re:Easy answer (2)

turp182 (1020263) | about a year ago | (#43799419)

Maybe yeast culturing systems? Or a better, sealed bread box that supports humidity controls (desiccants)?

We can't print food (well, maybe meat, but it's not affordable at this point), but we could print things that help people better store and preserve food.

Of course we can't print salt either, the most historically used food preservative...

Re:Easy answer (1)

countach (534280) | about a year ago | (#43799423)

Nah, she'd print statues of the Virgin.

Boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43798957)

I want a giant printer so I can print a tank.

print oil or other kinds of fuel? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year ago | (#43798963)

print oil or other kinds of fuel?

Re:print oil or other kinds of fuel? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799051)

print oil or other kinds of fuel?

Cut down on the Star Trek, dork, and learn some real science. Even if rearranging atoms were possible, conservation of mass/energy means you have to also feed in the energy difference between the energy you get from the fuel that comes out and the energy available from whatever you put into the machine. That's the bare minimum; it's more because of process losses.

In other words, there's no free lunch (or oil).

Re:print oil or other kinds of fuel? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799355)

"Even if rearranging atoms were possible"

I believe this is called chemistry. But you are dealing with Joe_Dragon here, a pie-in-the-sky wide-eyed dreamer. He's not too interested in the reality of things, but more how it sounds to him. If it sounds about right, it must BE right.

Re:print oil or other kinds of fuel? (1)

mark_reh (2015546) | about a year ago | (#43799509)

Ghee?

handcuffs (1)

Cyko_01 (1092499) | about a year ago | (#43798969)

Nobody gets hurt, everybody stays safe

Teddy Bears (4, Funny)

rwa2 (4391) | about a year ago | (#43799533)

Guns are tools of the weak and afraid. They clutch them close to their chests to make them feel like they have some power in this crazy, cruel world.

But all we really want is love, approval, and security. Hence, teddy bears.

At least it's better than my first impulse to print a vagina.

3D printers are toys. (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about a year ago | (#43798975)

Despite all that talk and hype, despite guns being printed by 3D printers, it is not what the poorer nations need. Simple technology well designed cheap to make and maintain. That is what they need. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_hardware_projects [wikipedia.org]

Re:3D printers are toys. (4, Insightful)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year ago | (#43799303)

3D printers, it is not what the poorer nations need.

Poor countries often have problems getting spare parts. They tend to have old no-longer-supported gear, such as tractors or irrigation pumps. Even when the parts are available they are too expensive to ship, or are pilfered by the postal workers. If a part for your pump or manure spreader arrives two months late, you have already missed the planting season. A printer that can make a part from a spec downloaded over a cellular network would come in very useful. You don't need one on every farm or in every shop, just within a day's walk.

Re:3D printers are toys. (2)

Immerman (2627577) | about a year ago | (#43799545)

An even better solution? Stop buying fragile first-world machines that are designed with the assumption that first-world infrastructure is available. Something like the Global Village Construction Set makes *far* more sense in a developing nation. Sure, you pay as much for your butt-ugly DIY tractor as you would for a second-hand mass-produced model that's probably a bit superior when operating well. But your DIY mostrosity is damn near indestructible, easy to fix if you do break something, and the few complicated parts are bog-standard industrial components so that if something fails you've got lots of sources to get replacements from.

here's an idea (2)

p51d007 (656414) | about a year ago | (#43799005)

How about a printer that can print a printer?

Re:here's an idea (0)

camperdave (969942) | about a year ago | (#43799467)

How about a printer that can print a printer?

What, like a RepRap [reprap.org] ?

Re:here's an idea (2)

mark-t (151149) | about a year ago | (#43799521)

First all, reprap doesn't print a printer. It prints a kit which you can assemble into a printer. Sure a kit can be useful, but it's not the same thing as printing an actual usable printer.

Secondly, reprap prints only the plastic parts of the printer,but misses out on the electronics and few metal components which are actually required to make a complete functional device, and which must be purchased separately.

Guns are, what ensures peace (-1, Flamebait)

mi (197448) | about a year ago | (#43799021)

Nasty regimes in need to hide their mismanagement of their own country with a war, as well as criminals — they all prefer unarmed victims.

Thus, personal weapon is a perfectly peaceful symbol. Being able to print [knowyourmeme.com] one — and keep it at home — is a good way to protect one's domicile, without begging the government for a permission to exercise the Constitution-guaranteed right.

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799077)

Sigh.

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799145)

Sigh.

Sigh.

Re: Guns are, what ensures peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799367)

"Sigh.

Sigh."

*SIGH* [faux outrage amped to 11]

--
  guns for tots!

Re: Guns are, what ensures peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799459)

It's more weariness than outrage.

What has GP contributed?

The gun debate at least as it plays out on slashdot is an endless rephrasing of the same arguments.

The pro gun side has about five different principles they can bring up so there is no winning.

Natural rights
Constitutional rights
Individual safety
Utility vis-a-vis hunting
Sport (target practice)

The other side is just concerned with public safety but if you don't accept seemingly self evident claim that more guns leads to more violence, then those arguments come down to statistics and so both sides always claim to win.

Honestly it seems pointless to argue. GP thinks that guns are peaceful. Why not say freedom is slavery? There seems little point in rehashing old arguments when that's all that will be uttered.

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799093)

In this country, the first gun control came about because blacks were firing at KKK lynch mobs. (It's surprisingly easy for a few defenders to fend off an angry mob with firearms. The defenders are already behind cover, whereas their attackers have to close ground. And the defenders have nowhere to go, whereas each attacker has the option of retreating.)

At the time, the KKK was basically the terrorist wing of the Democrat party, and the Democrat politicians passed the first gun control laws to enable the lynching. The NRA got their start as a civil rights organization fighting those laws.

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799239)

The NRA got their start as a civil rights organization fighting those laws.

LIES.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Origins [wikipedia.org]
Origins

The National Rifle Association was first chartered in the state of New York on November 17, 1871[12] by Army and Navy Journal editor William Conant Church and General George Wood Wingate. Its first president was Civil War General Ambrose Burnside, who had worked as a Rhode Island gunsmith, and Wingate was the original secretary of the organization. Church succeeded Burnside as president in the following year.

Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate soldier hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: "Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn."[13] The generals attributed this to the use of volley tactics, devised for earlier, less accurate smoothbore muskets.[14][15]

Recognizing a need for better training, Wingate traveled to Europe and observed European armies' marksmanship training programs. With plans provided by Wingate, the New York Legislature funded the construction of a modern range at Creedmore, Long Island, for long-range shooting competitions. Wingate then wrote a marksmanship manual.[13]

After winning the British Empire championship at Wimbledon, London, in 1874, the Irish Rifle Team issued a challenge through the New York Herald to riflemen of the United States to raise a team for a long-range match to determine an Anglo-American championship. The NRA organized a team through a subsidiary amateur rifle club. Remington Arms and Sharps Rifle Manufacturing Company produced breech-loading weapons for the team. Although muzzle-loading rifles had long been considered more accurate, eight American riflemen won the match firing breech-loading rifles. Publicity of the event generated by the New York Herald helped to establish breech-loading firearms as suitable for military marksmanship training, and promoted the NRA to national prominence.[13]

Eight U.S. Presidents have been NRA members. They are Ulysses S. Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush.[16]

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (1)

bunratty (545641) | about a year ago | (#43799273)

[citation needed]

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799543)

I think you'd want something better. [wikipedia.org] They are now very old and wont' work.

If I were you, I would have posted:

[Toyota needed]

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799231)

So, what you're saying is... war is peace?

Re:Guns are, what ensures peace (2)

Freddybear (1805256) | about a year ago | (#43799511)

If you want peace, then prepare for war.

um (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799029)

2 words: Dill dough

Re:um (2)

OhSoLaMeow (2536022) | about a year ago | (#43799111)

2 words: Dill dough

For pickle bread?

Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (5, Interesting)

Richard_J_N (631241) | about a year ago | (#43799033)

I think Mother Theresa would choose not to print anything.
She was a friend of poverty, not of the poor, and considered suffering to be a state of grace.
She was a rather nasty piece of work, who kept the poor in poverty, and prevented many dying people from getting access to medicine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60 [youtube.com]

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (1)

glitch0 (859137) | about a year ago | (#43799117)

Wish I has modpoints today, you're absolutely correct.

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (0)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year ago | (#43799431)

I think Mother Theresa would choose not to print anything.
She was a friend of poverty, not of the poor, and considered suffering to be a state of grace.
She was a rather nasty piece of work, who kept the poor in poverty, and prevented many dying people from getting access to medicine.

So you're saying she was a Republican?

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (3, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | about a year ago | (#43799597)

So you're saying she was a Republican?

Backwards. The party with a vested interest in keeping people dependent on professionals who dole things out to them is the Democrats. That's the backbone of their entire constituency and the framework within which they describe everybody: needing a handout, or needing to be used to pay for handouts. Without playing middlemen to that one-way street, there would be almost not power in that camp. And so they seek to preserve it at every turn.

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (2, Interesting)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#43799483)

She was a friend of poverty, not of the poor, and considered suffering to be a state of grace.
She was a rather nasty piece of work, who kept the poor in poverty, and prevented many dying people from getting access to medicine.

Yeah, that sounds like a good description of someone who won the Padma Shri, Jawaharlal Nehru Award for International Understanding, Bharat Ratna, Ramon Magsaysay Award, the first Pope John XXIII Peace Prize, Pacem in Terris Award, Honorary Companion of the Order of Australia, Order of Merit, Honorary US citizenship, Albanian Golden Honour of the Nation, Balzan Prize, Albert Schweitzer International Prize, Nobel Peace Prize...

A real nasty piece of work she is, yup. It's amazing it's gone on for so long without anybody notice. Thank goodness for Youtube publishing a inflammatory "documentary" by a man whose life work was tearing apart anyone who claimed to be religious, said that 9/11 was "exhilarating" for him, and published a book titled "God Is Not Great", if that doesn't give enough of an indication of this man's, achem, axe to grind. Who else has he grilled? Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Lady Diana, Ayn Rand, Pope Benedict XVI...

Well, I'm sure this one dude with an axe to grind was better qualified to assess this person's character than over two dozen governments and private interests who gave her awards. Oh, I forgot -- She made #1 on Gallup's List of Most Widely Admired People. 18 times. So make that most of the world that she's bamboozled.

Yes, if you dig down hard enough you'll find something that even the most saintly person has done that could seem controversial. Just ask the Republicans how their whole "Bengazi" crusade is going, if you want a current-events example. With enough scrutiny, everyone can be demonized. And if you don't believe me on that, feel free to sit in an interrogation room with a trained interrogator with 30 years experience. See if you can go a few hours without admitting something that'll crucify your sorry ass. To date, nobody has beaten the Police Interrogation Reality Challenge!(tm)

I tend to believe that all those awards were for good things done by a largely good person. If she slipped a couple times, it only proves she's human... not a "nasty piece of work".

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (2)

Richard_J_N (631241) | about a year ago | (#43799623)

Hmm... it's not the relations with dictators that I find so repulsive, nor even her absolute opposition to abortion. Those might be what you call "slip-ups".
But she did, in fact, preside over awful standards of care, people were denied access to medical treatment, and suffering was not alleviated, because it was considered "spiritually noble". MT also campaigned agains family planning and contraception. So while, by religious lights, she might have been "moral", the effect was deeply cruel and wicked, keeping people in poverty and away from real medical care.

Also, if you want to take issue with Hitchens,I don't really think you should imply that Henry Kissinger was among the better specimens of humanity! Nor, for that matter, was the previous Pope (whose time in the Hitler Youth one may overlook, as the actions of a child under compulsion, but who fully deserves to go to Hell for knowing inaction on child-abuse, and opposition to condoms despite HIV).

That said, I do entirely agree with you that nobody is perfect and anyone can be made to look bad. Your "exhilaration" quote is one example... I checked the context of this, and while I don't find it in good taste, it's not an uncommon description of how some people feel at the start of a war, even those on the good side.
(You might consider imagining yourself as Churchill, at the moment when Hitler invaded Poland - a rather strange mix of gloom at the inevitable impending tragedy, combined with some excitement that, finally, because the evil thing has become so bad, that the world can delay acting no longer and that it will stand up and fight.)

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (1, Troll)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#43799723)

But she did, in fact, preside over awful standards of care, people were denied access to medical treatment, and suffering was not alleviated, because it was considered "spiritually noble".

I have previously looked into those allegations. While she may have believed "suffering is good for the soul," it wasn't so much a denial of pain medication as a lack of access to them. Many of these clinics that were setup were in places where access to any medical care was absent.

MT also campaigned agains family planning and contraception.

Which, as someone who isn't a medical professional, I have no special problem with. I disagree with it philosophically, but I defend her right to say it.

...keeping people in poverty and away from real medical care.

You should point the finger at the governments that turned a blind eye to the suffering of their own people, not MT's attempts to provide the most basic of medical care to an otherwise totally neglected population.

Also, if you want to take issue with Hitchens,I don't really think you should imply that Henry Kissinger was among the better specimens of humanity!

I implied nothing, I simply pointed out that he has an appetite for famous people, the more famous the better.

our "exhilaration" quote is one example... I checked the context of this, and while I don't find it in good taste, it's not an uncommon description of how some people feel at the start of a war, even those on the good side.

Yes, but my point was this man has made a career out of being a malcontent, a contrarian, and going after celebrities and political positions because he can get a rise out of people. He's just coated this juvenile behavior in a veneer of intellectualism, but he is essentially a troll.

(You might consider imagining yourself as Churchill, at the moment when Hitler invaded Poland - a rather strange mix of gloom at the inevitable impending tragedy, combined with some excitement that, finally, because the evil thing has become so bad, that the world can delay acting no longer and that it will stand up and fight.)

Churchill would have been stomped out of existance if not for the attack on Pearl Harbor drawing the United States into the war. Without our support, Europe would have fallen, and there's nothing exhilerating about that possibility. Were in I in Churchill's position, yes, I would have made the same bold statements, but privately, I would have been shitting bricks.

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about a year ago | (#43799525)

I suspect she would choose to print statues of Mary.

Re:Mother Theresa is an unfortunate choice (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799655)

I agree that Mother Theresa is a terrible choice; what modern people seem to forget or at least never get told is that in the early days of the reglion (100-400 years after the death of Christ) the major method to prove how holy you were was to get Myrter. It was the goal. Am not saying that what Christ himself envisioned but that is the history of the followers. Am sure in time she gets her miracles and be made a full saint. Though given she died I'm really not convinced she'll care.

Being a nun or monk until the reformation required for an oath of poverty. There is a belief in some parts of Christian that suffering removes sin or lessen it. 1

Why people then feel that this is a good thing I'm never quite sure.

Si vis pacem, para bellum (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799039)

2,000 years of history says they have the wrong idea.

plowshares (1)

turkeydance (1266624) | about a year ago | (#43799043)

however there's been a rash of plowshare murders lately.

"If Mother Theresa of Ghandi" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799067)

I didn't realize that Ghandi was born before his Mother. I need to read up on this Hinduism stuff!

FTFY (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799075)

"3D printing is being condemned by idiots because of the potential for printing guns."

Peace dude. (1)

Anarchduke (1551707) | about a year ago | (#43799079)

How about we put down the guns and 3D print a Peace Pipe [vice.com] .

An answer for every question. (1, Insightful)

ravyne (858869) | about a year ago | (#43799083)

If Mother Theresa or[sic] Ghandi had access to 3D printing what would they print?

That's easy!

Mother Theresa would 3D print destitite people suffering from horrible diseases, so that she could lock them away in 'hospice' where they will be denied medical care, pain management, and be denied visitors -- even their 3D printed family.

Ghandi would print naked, pre-pubescent girls to sleep with, so that he can 'prove his piety'.

Come on Slashdot, what's with the softball questions?

Re:An answer for every question. (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year ago | (#43799265)

Mother Theresa would print a Plastic Jesus [wikipedia.org] for the Popemobile, and Gandhi would print a dildo for Mother Theresa.

WWJP?

Re:An answer for every question. (1)

countach (534280) | about a year ago | (#43799435)

Maybe she'd print bracelets with "WWJP" on the side.

What we really need to be worried about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799087)

are 3D printers that can print functional 3D printers.

i think south africa won already (1)

decora (1710862) | about a year ago | (#43799121)

just google '3d printed hand boy' and bring the tissues

Re:i think south africa won already (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year ago | (#43799441)

just google '3d printed hand boy' and bring the tissues

I did, and found this, thanks... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/02/robohand-how-cheap-3d-printers-built-a-replacement-hand-for-a-five-year-old-boy/ [arstechnica.com]

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"These are the days of miracles and wonders." - Paul Simon

Guns ARE the Peace Initiative (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year ago | (#43799123)

The NRA told me so. The more guns we have the safer we will be.

Oh, and chocolate rations are being increased again.

Re:Guns ARE the Peace Initiative (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799385)

Printing a "Piecemaker" shall bring the piece. Piece, as we all define it precisely everywhere, is the condition of everybody being dead.

This just in (1)

redmid17 (1217076) | about a year ago | (#43799137)

The two causes are not mutually exclusive, and I say this as a gun enthusiast who would not fire a 3D-printed gun with his own 2 hands.

Re:This just in (1)

ravyne (858869) | about a year ago | (#43799171)

You'll get my 3D printed gun when you pry it's sprinters from my cold, bloody stumps!

Re:This just in (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year ago | (#43799185)

The two causes are not mutually exclusive, and I say this as a gun enthusiast who would not fire a 3D-printed gun with his own 2 hands.

I shoot with my 3D printed hand. You should see the looks on peoples' faces when I have my hands in the air, and suddenly the 3D printed hand whips out a 3D printed gun and shoots them right between the eyes.

Sandals (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799143)

A new pair of sandals

D`i3k (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799149)

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3D printing is being condemned in the media... (1)

Dracos (107777) | about a year ago | (#43799153)

Because the media and all their "analyst" guests are ignorant, myopic, ratings-chasing, fear-mongering drama queens. Their reaction to "the potential for 3d-printed guns" is just one more manifestation of this. The Liberator may have been downloaded 100k times, but I bet at least 80% of those people don't even have a 3d printer (and never will), and less than a dozen of them will actually get printed.

Re:3D printing is being condemned in the media... (3, Insightful)

Migraineman (632203) | about a year ago | (#43799505)

The tag line "The potential for guns made from commodity parts found at the local hardware store" just isn't sensational enough to move copy. Folks have been hand-crafting zip guns for the better part of a century now, if not longer. Hell, half a century ago you could order a firearm (long or short) through the Sears catalog and have it delivered to your doorstep via the Postal Service. No oversight. No license. No FFL. Wasn't the end of the world until the ignorant, myopic, ratings-chasing, fear-mongering drama queens made it so.

Mouth to mouth guard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799173)

Those mouth to mouth guards used for CPR.

Teeth. (4, Interesting)

Nefarious Wheel (628136) | about a year ago | (#43799179)

Sintered ceramic teeth -- dentures and bridges, faster and more accessible dentistry.

MT would print (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799199)

food, clothes, water, or medicine.

To secure peace is to prepare for war (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799245)

To secure peace is to prepare for war. So designing a better 3d gun should count.

Salt (1)

Culture20 (968837) | about a year ago | (#43799249)

Gandhi would have printed salt. Of course the machine would have required salt as an input, so he would have just taken the salt.

Peaceful Printers (1, Insightful)

kwiqsilver (585008) | about a year ago | (#43799251)

If Ghandi had been able to print guns, maybe the Indians would have been able to eject the British sooner, and with fewer innocent Indian deaths.

Mother Teresa would not have printed anything to help people. She spent most of the money she raised on building convents, not on the poor. Mother Teresa wanted the poor to suffer, because she thought it made her closer to Jesus. [slate.com]

I have a great suggestion for using 3D printers to promote peace: build guns, since the worst violence of the 20th century was from authoritarian governments against their own disarmed populations. Nazi, Commie, Fascist, etc. thugs are a lot more hesitant to go into a town, if they're not sure who in the town might have a gun, or worse, if they suspect everybody in the town has one.

Re:Peaceful Printers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799421)

Except all the worst violence was done with the consent of the governed. Everyday white Germans had no problems with Jews being disarmed and since Hitler needed people who knew how to shoot he actually loosened gun controls. Your one dimensional pro-gun narrative is terribly inaccurate.

Oh really? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799277)

Why do the engineers at Michigan equate guns with killing people? Why not self-defense or the defense of others?

Re:Oh really? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799417)

Because they aren't morons

Gandhi was a gun rights advocate (2)

Syphilis (51052) | about a year ago | (#43799311)

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."

        - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.

we can do better.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799315)

It's kind of sad that nobody can really think of anything to print that isn't a gun....
I was thinking sex toys.

Hmm, Humans are obsessed with 2 things. (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#43799327)

Humans are pretty much obsessed with 2 things, well, actually, all lifeforms are: Killing and Sex.

Things eat other things to live, even trees try to poison the ground or overshadow undergrowth to kill the other plants so that they may survive... So, if we can't do the violence thing, then it's the other one.

DILDOS FOR ALL!

Make Love, not War! (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year ago | (#43799539)

Yeah, that's about it.

Print dildoes for the Pentagon Brass asses (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799337)

You see, they are all queer, and if they feel like they have a dick
up their ass all day long they will not be nearly as interested in
declaring war on yet another country which has not attacked
the US.

And while you're at it, print one for the Nobel Peace Prize winner
in the oval office. He obviously needs a dick up the ass too, because
Gitmo is still open and drones are killing Americans without due process.

For medecinal purposes? (4, Insightful)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year ago | (#43799345)

instead of printing weapons to hurt and kill each other, how about using this tech for good-ness, and not 'bad-ness? (just a crazy thought) Like, oh I don't know..., this:

USAToday, May 22, 2013 - Researchers at the University of Michigan have used a 3-D printer to create a custom-made, life-saving implant for baby boy, they report in a letter in 'The New England Journal of Medicine.'

Researchers at the University of Michigan have used a 3-D printer to create a custom-made, life-saving implant for a baby boy, they report today in a letter in The New England Journal of Medicine.

The baby, Kaiba Gionfriddo, suffered from a rare disorder in which one of the airways in his lungs collapsed when he exhaled. The problem caused him to stop breathing and turn blue when he was only 6 weeks old. Even with a mechanical ventilator, Kaiba stopped breathing virtually every day, requiring doctors to perform emergency resuscitations.

"We'd recently had a child in the hospital who died of this, and I said, 'there has got to be a solution that we can find for these kids,' " says co-author Glenn Green, Kaiba's doctor and an associate professor of otolaryngology.

So Green and his Michigan colleagues tried something new.

Using a 3-D printer, they custom-built a tiny, flexible splint that will grow with Kaiba. Researchers used a special material designed to be absorbed by Kaiba's body in about three years, says co-author Scott Hollister, a professor of biomedical and mechanical engineering.

Instead of making a cast of Kaiba's airway with plaster, they used a CT scanner, which gave them a 3-D blueprint.

Like a vacuum-cleaner hose, the C-shaped splint is flexible enough to move when Kaiba breathes. But it's also firm enough to prevent his air tube from flopping shut, says Green.

Kaiba was able to come off the ventilator three weeks after his surgery in February 2012. "Our prediction is that this will be a cure for him," Green says. "The splint will go away and the process will be done."

The porous splint is made from the same material as dissolvable stitches, Green says. Just as a wisteria vine grows through a trellis, Kaiba's body will create new cells to permeate the scaffold. By the time the splint is completely absorbed, doctors hope that Kaiba's own tissue will be sturdy enough to keep his airway open.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/22/3d-printer-implant-baby/2348091/ [usatoday.com]

So so gay (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43799415)

Fucking boring. I wish people weren't such losers to come up with this kind of shit. Get over your fragile selves.

Weird focus on killer when can almost print liver (4, Insightful)

dbIII (701233) | about a year ago | (#43799461)

There's been a lot of progress with organic materials and it's almost at the point of printing organs. Livers are at the top of the list.

Now you're just encouraging infringement (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year ago | (#43799555)

Those designs will be protected by IP laws. And what will they say when you can pirate the design for a new liver?

"Drink up, me hearties, yo ho!"

You're just asking people to infringe IP (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year ago | (#43799567)

I mean, these liver designs will be protected by IP laws. So what will we hear when the pirates steal this work and you can print a new liver on your own home machine?

"Drink up, me hearties, yo ho!"

Mother Theresa of Ghandi? (1)

mbone (558574) | about a year ago | (#43799507)

That's a typo (well, 2), but it is interesting that they picked these two, which shows that they understand basically nothing about the philosophy and work of either figure.

Here is a hint - Mother Theresa did not treat the dying, only comforted them, and Gandhi believed in rejecting technology and returning to a simpler era. So, the simplest answer for both is, nothing.

Another 3d printer (1)

istartedi (132515) | about a year ago | (#43799535)

Another 3d printer. Everybody knows that capitalism is peace. This way, the 3d printer is just another form of money that creates its own interest. Eventually we'll be up to our necks in printers. We'll be so rich and it'll spawn fabulous new businesses like 3d-printer landfill operations, 3d-printer recylcing, and 3d-printer central banks to slow or speed up the production of 3d-printers.

Why only US? (2)

wvmarle (1070040) | about a year ago | (#43799537)

Why would they limit this to the US? That's only a small portion of the world's population. And not the most peaceful country in my mind, too, with all those guns around and wars they started and so.

And on top of that, both Mother Teresa and Mahatma Ghandi are not Americans either.

Some of these things are not like the others (5, Insightful)

Dave Emami (237460) | about a year ago | (#43799557)

I really, really want to be for this. Not because I have anything against 3D-printed guns, I'm all for those, but because some of the things on their list are good ideas and make sense. Some of the other stuff is pure nonsense, however.

"Low-cost medical devices." Excellent idea. "Tools to help people out of poverty." Also excellent. Lots of potential in both of these to improve, and in many cases save, people's lives.

But then we get to "Designs that can reduce racial conflict." Err, what? Someone is waaay overestimating how effective their "Coexist" bumper sticker is. It would be nice if 3D printers could produce some sort of object for people to brandish at racists like crucifixes at vampires, but it's not going to happen. "Tools that would reduce military conflict and spending while making us all safer and more secure." Look, I'm for reducing conflict and increasing safety and security, too, but if an object to do that hasn't been created using more-mundane fabrication methods, a 3D printer won't be able to make it, either -- and there aren't any such objects, unless (like me and apparently unlike the folks sponsoring this) you think that being armed makes you more secure.

This is being run by Michigan Tech's Department of of Material Science and Engineering, but it looks like someone from one of the squishy majors snuck in and added items to the list. I hope there are a lot medical and tool ideas submitted (pity they don't have a way to donate money to increase the prize), but I really wish they hadn't included the silly, groan-inducing stuff.

What people need is tools (1)

cphilo (768807) | about a year ago | (#43799679)

Axes, buckets, shovels, saws, knives, cooking pots, tarps, harnesses, fishing poles, gardening tools to start with. Later they will need more complex tools, such as auto parts.
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