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Meet Pidora, the New Official Fedora Remix For Raspberry Pi

timothy posted about a year ago | from the computers-now-officially-cheap dept.

Operating Systems 51

An anonymous reader writes "Today Fedora and the Seneca Centre for Development of Open Technology (CDOT) announced the release of Pidora 18, an optimized Fedora remix for the Raspberry Pi. It's based on a brand new build of Fedora for the ARMv6 architecture with greater speed and includes packages from the Fedora 18 package set. It's also the launch of the Pidora name. (The older version of Fedora for the Pi was called the Fedora Raspberry Pi Remix.)"

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Excellent name (3, Funny)

Nimatek (1836530) | about a year ago | (#43802325)

This is already providing some immature amusement to Russian speaking individuals.

Re:Excellent name (2)

Pi1grim (1956208) | about a year ago | (#43802373)

Well, I'm pretty sure english-speaking users would be even more amused if the name sounded something like "faggot", which is just a bassoon in russian, so, yeah, immature public will always get excited over weird names. And before releasing something you might want to check if it sounds right in other languages.

Re:Excellent name (1)

Jade_Wayfarer (1741180) | about a year ago | (#43802723)

It won't take off in Russia (mainly because almost no one here uses Raspberry Pi), but this release will give something to talk about on our tech forums for couple of days for sure. Immature? Maybe. Amusing? Quite so.

Re:Excellent name (4, Funny)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#43804135)

In Soviet Russia, Basoon Blows You!

Re:Excellent name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43821279)

I know how to use Pidora Linux in Russia.
Sit somewhere at PUBLIC place (like transport) with bright big screen device, and show EVERYBODY that u loading PIDORA Linux.
It will be ultimate ROFL

Re:Excellent name (1)

Jade_Wayfarer (1741180) | about a year ago | (#43802847)

Hell, what's wrong with immature amusements once in a while? I bet most of bearded and mature 40+ years old Russian-speaking programmers will at least smirk upon seeing this news. Not to say anything about younger ones. There's already a discussion on habrahabr.ru with some... immature but amusing comments. Creativity, even in this form, is something that adds flavor to life, don't you think?

Re:Excellent name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43802877)

I'd better register a domain pidora.net

Re:Excellent name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43802881)

Same goes for the Spanish speaking individuals. Sounds like "pedorra"

Re:Excellent name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43803003)

Greetings from Russia. It's really so much fun with names "Pidora" and pidora.ca

As you maybe already know it's genitive case of "pidor" and "pidoras". These words mean "gay" in Russian and are obscene words.

Re:Excellent name (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about a year ago | (#43813585)

This is nothing new.

In "classical" (sic.) music you missed Mozart's "Leck mich im Arsch" (literally "Lick me in the arse") canon in B-flat major.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch [wikipedia.org]

Re:Excellent name (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about a year ago | (#43813639)

Of course. /oblg. Futurama

Fry: Did you build the Smelloscope?
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: No, I remembered that I'd built one last year. Go ahead, try it. You'll find that every heavenly body has its
own particular scent. Here, I'll point it at Jupiter.
Fry: Smells like strawberries.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Exactly. And now, now Saturn.
Fry: Pine needles. Oh, man, this is great... hey, as long as you don't make me smell Uranus.
Leela: I don't get it.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.
Fry: Oh. What's it called now?
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Urrectum. Here, let me locate it for you.
Fry: No, no, I, I think I'll just smell around a bit over here.

Pidor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43802357)

I think in Russian language Pidor = Fag. Probably not the best name.

Ah memories (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43802547)

I saw that name and read it as Pia Zadora.

I think it moved a little.

Noone in Russia will use such a distribution =) (1)

JustFisher (1123293) | about a year ago | (#43802655)

I'm a native russian speaker. Product named like that when translated back will look like 'faggot'. It would be less offensive if you call it 'fagdoora' =)

Re:Noone in Russia will use such a distribution =) (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#43804059)

I dunno. A bloke asked me, "Can I screw you for a fag?" once. I gave him the cigarette he requested, despite knowing I'd never be repaid. No homo.

I'll give you one guess what "Windows" means in geek...

Re:Noone in Russia will use such a distribution =) (2)

JustFisher (1123293) | about a year ago | (#43804213)

I'm not telling you about gay people. No homophobia here, no.

What I actually say is that the expected reaction from an average russian-speakin user is highly predictable. 'Pidor' is a banned word, it is highly offensive, maybe the closer analog will be your 'nigger'. Would you use such a distribution, like, 'Nigger Linux' ?

Re:Noone in Russia will use such a distribution =) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43806741)

Fedora-pidora. Bad for Linux in Russia, very bad.

Bad luck and trouble (3, Insightful)

Begemot (38841) | about a year ago | (#43802911)

Work hard, release a cool product and all the geeks are talking about is how it sounds in Russian

Re:Bad luck and trouble (1)

JustFisher (1123293) | about a year ago | (#43802983)

You say like there is no 155 million people [wikipedia.org] on this planet

Re:Bad luck and trouble (2)

Begemot (38841) | about a year ago | (#43803175)

Nope, I say maybe it deserves one comment that doesn't try to make fun of its name

Re:Bad luck and trouble (1)

Custard Horse (1527495) | about a year ago | (#43803443)

How many of those will be Pi users and how many of those users will take offence to the point that they will complain about their free software or refuse to use it?

I couldn't give a cow's twat what they call it - why should anybody care?

Re:Bad luck and trouble (2)

Mondor (704672) | about a year ago | (#43803915)

It doesn't matter how many of them will ever use Pi. But it's the name of the Linux distribution. Naming official distribution this way makes it harder for overall Linux success. Linux user won't say that Windows is gay anymore. Because you know what? Pidora Linux! (translation from Russian: Linux of the faggot).

Re:Bad luck and trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805589)

What's wrong with faggots:

World English Dictionary
faggot

—n
1. a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel
2. a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
3. a ball of chopped meat, usually pork liver, bound with herbs and bread and eaten fried
4. a bundle of anything

An odd name for a Linux distro, I grant, but doesn't sound offensive to me.

Re:Bad luck and trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43807889)

The discussion is about translating the word from English to Russian, not vice versa. Try to call any Russian a "pidor" and see the reaction.
A hint: there is no non-offensive meaning for that word in Russian.

Re:Bad luck and trouble (-1, Troll)

JustFisher (1123293) | about a year ago | (#43804049)

Well, then, fuck you. Please don't flag this -- I'm just sciencing -- will you 'take an offence to the point that you will complain' or not?

Re:Bad luck and trouble (1)

SMOKEING (1176111) | about a year ago | (#43803193)

This is a perfect example of brand blunder [wikipedia.org]. No offence to the Canadian team, but a perfect brand blunder it is. It's probably not a direct equivalent of pushing a product badly mis-named for the target market, but it will eventuate in a whole lot of misunderstandings, all totally undeserved.

A little bit of linguistic research would be appropriate. OTOH, we have GIMP, and everyone is getting happily along with it...

Re:Bad luck and trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43808193)

It doesn't matter how hard you work or how cool your product it, if you decide to go with a horrible name.

I'm not Russian, but imagine if some non-English speaking country comes up with a set of dolls for girls called "Howr and Beadch". Yeah, I'm not an English speaker either, but you can imagine, despite of how awesome those are, they would be a hit buyout for Mattel.

News for lazy nerds (1, Interesting)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#43803127)

Wake me up when you can run a lightweight Linux distro on an Arduino.

What do you mean, it'll never fit and it's too slow? Learn to trim your software first, stop increasing the required hardware.

We used to have home computers with less computing power than an ATmega328, so get off my lawn!

Re:News for lazy nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43803577)

Yeah, the machine I used to test the Peacekeeper nuclear missile's pop-up launch system was a PDP-11/34 with one meg of memory.

Shortly after that Ronald Reagan announced that it was perfectly OK to sell PDP-11s to Russian communists because "they have no military applications". Last I checked the C5B simulator at DAFB was still running on a PDP-11, but the blessed Saint Ronnie never let tawdry reality interfere with a lie that could benefit a multinational corporation!

Re:News for lazy nerds (1)

Attila the Bun (952109) | about a year ago | (#43803763)

We used to have home computers with less computing power than an ATmega328, so get off my lawn!

...which also didn't run Linux. But I'm curious: even if it were possible, what would you do with Linux on an Arduino?

BTW, an ATmega644 - a chip very similar to the processors used in Arduinos - was used in one of the early Raspberry Pi prototypes [raspberrypi.org] (if one can call a device utterly different to the final product a prototype). It didn't run Linux either.

Re:News for lazy nerds (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43804719)

Technically, you can run the rasppi versions on a 644 via external storage and the ATmega ARM emulator.

Takes hours to get to an Emergancy she'll, and days to get to X but it has been done.

QEMUs soft emulators will run on just about anything given a little effort.

Re:News for lazy nerds (2)

extraqwert (983362) | about a year ago | (#43803925)

Wake me up when you can run a lightweight Linux distro on an Arduino.

Would you prefer Perduino or Pidorino?

Re:News for lazy nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43808373)

If you put Linux with a GUI on Arduino, would it be LinGUIno?

Re:News for lazy nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43804665)

Somebody go wake up parent, it's more than a year late already: http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit

Re:News for lazy nerds (1)

jareth-0205 (525594) | about a year ago | (#43805121)

What do you mean, it'll never fit and it's too slow? Learn to trim your software first, stop increasing the required hardware.

*cough*entitled*cough*!
Why don't *you* trim the software, oh lazy one...

Name Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43804419)

To avoid any embarrassing misunderstanding over the name of this distribution, especially in UK schools we have decided to change the name to Pido ( pronounced pee-dough ).

I am sure Russians won't use it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43804577)

Pidor means faggot in russian, ha ha ha!

I believe it's in English as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43806331)

... or rather ancient Greek & Rome, as in "pederasty".

Rpi - not all that (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#43808853)

I bought a couple to experiment with. Yeah, they're fine little boards you can ssh into. I thought the hardware accelerated video was going to be the killer feature, so I got a few of the XBMC images, played some videos, and, then googled to find all the people who are also complaining about blocking artifacts, lockups, and generally buggy video decoding on the things. Got the latest firmware updates, etc.

So, useless for that purpose, but it doesn't say so on the tin. Maybe I'll grab Pidora and set them up as vnc clients screwed into the back of a display. I think they can manage that OK, but from what I can see they're still prototypes.

I thought they'd be my kids' C=64's, but buggy doesn't encourage good learning.

Re: Rpi - not all that (1)

FORTRANslinger (950850) | about a year ago | (#43811295)

I spent my money - but wish I'd researched first. The following from LKML Greg K-H says it all.... On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 04:10:30PM +0200, Ozan ÃaÄYlayan wrote: > > Ah, my sympathies, USB on a rpi is horrible, and you will have all sorts > > of nasty issues, no matter how you end up doing this (in the kernel or > > userspace). > > What kind of issues? Currently I can read from the device without > problem. But, I had very weird problems with 2 uvc cameras, you're > right. High cpu usage is one problem, and low overall USB bandwidth is another, combined with slow response times. The hardware really is bad for USB, and the driver is a whole other beast, something that no one in the community can, or will, touch at all. > > Test it out and see. I really don't think that user vs. kernel space is > > going to be the issue here, I think you are going to see some very real > > problems with the hardware itself in this area. > > > > Best of luck, > > Well If I were you I would probably write that simple driver in a few > hours but seen that I am not you, I wanted to learn will the effort > worth the result :) It all depends on what you want to do, but I really think that user vs. kernelspace is not going to be the real problem here. Start with libusb and if you find that you are having problems, use 'perf' to see if the kernel part is really the problem. I think you will find all of your time is going to be spent in the USB hardware itself, and the USB driver, once you get the data out of that, user vs. kernel is not going to be noticable at all. Best of luck, and I bet you, in the end, you pick a better hardware platform for your project (hint, go buy a Beaglebone, it actually works and the tiny increase in cost more than makes up for the time you will waste fighting the RPI hardware.) greg k-h --

Re:Rpi - not all that (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about a year ago | (#43813689)

Yeah, it is a pity the 2D & 3D performance is total crap. I would of loved to write/tweak the OpenGL ES drivers for it, but thanks to Broadcom for not exposing ANY of the low level registers.

It would of been a REAL nice board.

but pidora is a web interface for pianobar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43810087)

That I use on my server to stream Pandora to my stereo and control remotely. Not.... This. My search results for pidora from yesterday to today got horribly skewed. :( check it out on github, its a pretty cool project.

russian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43818131)

Wow Pidora lool rofl lmao, I need to test it.
At Russian that means "Gay linux" or "Linux for gays" loooooooooooooool

laugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43821237)

Pidora Linux bwagagagaga pidora looooooooool

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