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Main US Weather Satellite Fails As Hurricane Season Looms

timothy posted about a year ago | from the ok-fellas-let's-just-stick-to-the-tornadoes dept.

Earth 235

First time accepted submitter Rebecka writes with bad news, quoting an IB Times report: "Just as the 2013 hurricane season is about to begin, one of the U.S.' main weather satellites failed this week. The Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite, also known as GOES-13, reportedly ceased to operate as of Tuesday, making it impossible to predict weather patterns on the East Coast." A note at NOAA's page for the GOES family of satellites says "GOES-13 imaging and sounding operations suspended. Recovery efforts for GOES-13 continue and the spacecraft health and safety are nominal. GOES-14 is being activated." You can follow the progress on the agency's page of General Satellite Messages.

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They saw this coming for ages... (3, Insightful)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year ago | (#43804957)

Unfortunately, because of Republican intransigence in Congress, they haven't been able to build and launch a new bird.

Everyone will now be screaming blue murder because of the huge negative economic impact this is going to have. Reliable weather prediction is critical for many businesses, including the ones responsible for the food supply.

I hope the wingnuts are happy.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Funny)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#43804999)

we don't need it, god will look after us

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805075)

Dude, they are protecting the country, didn't you know?

At least that's what they keep saying while they protect the rich...

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (3, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about a year ago | (#43805155)

Magic 8 Ball to the rescue: Outlook not so good.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Funny)

Bacon Bits (926911) | about a year ago | (#43805231)

Well, Lotus Notes is worse.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#43805383)

cc:Mail FTW

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805279)

Correct, Outlook and Outlook Express are not so good.

Try Thunderbird.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805019)

You must be lost, MSNBC is that way.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (4, Insightful)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about a year ago | (#43805053)

And how many satellites could have been built with the $535 MILLION that the Obama Administration gave to Solyndra?

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0, Offtopic)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43805081)

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (4, Insightful)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about a year ago | (#43805143)

From your own source:

"In 2009, the Obama administration approved a $535 million loan guarantee that helped the company build a new factory in Fremont, Calif."

Your attempt at spin away from blame is sad. Especially when the above statement is in the 4th paragraph.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43805179)

No spin, just that was not all the money they got.

Personally both of those presidents have not been the greatest.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (3, Insightful)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year ago | (#43805385)

Personally, both presidents are(were) awful. Both have eroded Liberties in such a way that short of tossing out both (D) and (R) congress critters and replacing them with (L) and (G) people, they (Liberties) won't come back any time soon. It seems like the American People love their nanny state, and being protected by the evil boogie men.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (4, Informative)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year ago | (#43805423)

Personally both of those presidents have not been the greatest.

They are almost indistinguishable, based on most policy of any real import. Obama followed the Bush Iraq timeline, implemented a "surge" in Afghanistan, massively expanded Medicare, extended the Bush tax cuts for 4 years (and most are still in place), kept 'Gitmo open, continued the Bush bailout policies, extended the Patriot Act, invaded a country in the Middle East, uses drones to conduct targeted killing, and has presided over a massive increase in debt. That's just off the top of my head, so my apologies if I've missed anything. I'm sure I'm subject to some confirmation bias, but yes I am aware that our military is slightly more gay. However, I'm also aware that the Democratic party had a majority for two full years and they did not repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, or any of the other things that they later blamed on Republican obstructionism.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (2)

nedlohs (1335013) | about a year ago | (#43805435)

Yes no spin. Just 100% lies.

The statement was " the $535 MILLION that the Obama Administration gave to Solyndra". Are you claiming there was another loan/loan guarantee/grant under Bush that happened to also be exactly $535 million? Are you then seriously further claiming that you thought the poster was referring to that earlier item and assigning it to the wrong President? That's going to be a stretch given your own source says "the Bush administration program didn't finalize a single loan guarantee [under the program in question]".

So please, provide your citation for the $535 million Bush gave to Solyndra?

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43805457)

I am claiming that the previous president gave them some money as well and I erroneously assumed that 535 million included all the money they got out of these loan programs. Which president finalized it seems awfully picky though.

I am sure you have made a mistake before, so lighten up francis.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0, Offtopic)

Rockoon (1252108) | about a year ago | (#43805539)

I am claiming that the previous president gave them some money as well and I erroneously assumed that 535 million included all the money they got out of these loan programs.

Got a citation?

It looks more like that you have an honesty problem, which you have compounded several times now on this issue as one statement of yours after another gets cracked wide open as a complete lie by the citation you did give.

Its easier to simply stop being a dishonest fuck.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805365)

From your own source:

"In 2009, the Obama administration approved a $535 million loan guarantee that helped the company build a new factory in Fremont, Calif."

Your attempt at spin away from blame is sad. Especially when the above statement is in the 4th paragraph.

And yet $535 million is still a lot less than a single B-2 bomber.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805833)

From the B-2 Wiki page: ".... Development originally started under the "Advanced Technology Bomber" (ATB) project during the Carter administration, and its performance was one of the reasons for his cancellation of the B-1 Lancer..." Yea Jimmy!

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805167)

Or the trillion-plus dollars they've spent on a war in Iraq for which absolutely none of the stated reasons turned out to be true.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805229)

Almost one.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0, Offtopic)

Fuzzums (250400) | about a year ago | (#43805241)

Aww. $500 million. Just imagine how many satellites could have been built from a fraction of the military budget.
That is measured in billions. Just saying.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Insightful)

ebno-10db (1459097) | about a year ago | (#43805849)

And how many satellites could have been built with the $535 MILLION that the Obama Administration gave to Solyndra?

I'm not sure, but you could have built at least 7000x as many satellites for the cost of the Iraq War. Bonus points for a lot fewer Americans killed.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805069)

I actually work on one of the teams that is building the GOES-R satellite. Say what you will about funding and scheduling, but we have not been cancelled.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Funny)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#43805103)

What are you doing here? get back to work

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Funny)

Kasamir (1792648) | about a year ago | (#43805301)

You're working on Gozer [wikipedia.org] ? Does that make you the Keymaster or the Gatekeeper?

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Funny)

dietdew7 (1171613) | about a year ago | (#43805335)

I think you're gonna have to come in on Saturday.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805635)

Actually, we've seen hints of this [spaceflightnow.com] for a bit, so it's not a tremendous shock, but it is quite possible that some of the farther-reaching instruments might get cancelled in order to have an early launch.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

JWW (79176) | about a year ago | (#43805415)

GOES-R's mission logo really need the StayPuft Marshmallow Man in it....

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Informative)

TwineLogic (1679802) | about a year ago | (#43805503)

GOES-R looks really cool.

Here is a trailer/teaser video about it, excellent production values. It could be titled: "GOES-R : Into Fog [youtube.com] "

The page that has links to all these videos is at a special U.S. government website about GOES-R [goes-r.gov]

This is a much longer video which details all of the instruments. [youtube.com]

Finally, you may enjoy this video on the overall NOAA project and system, and how GOES-R fits into that system. [youtube.com] Of note in this video is the statement that currently three (3) GOES satellites provide redundant coverage of the U.S.

At the moment, GOES-15 is the west coast satellite, at longitude 135 West. GOES-13 was imaging from 75W. GOES-14 is presently located at 105W.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805139)

Unfortunately, because of Republican intransigence in Congress, they haven't been able to build and launch a new bird.

Yeah, no. This is the Washington Monument gambit.

"We need you to cut the fat, what can you cut to save money?"
"OK, we choose to cut weather forecasting for the northeast, rather than our useless website or that $200 million supercomputer to beat out the EU [slashdot.org] (despite the EU supercomputer being less than half as powerful as our current system while still being more accurate)."

It's just a ploy for more money. They could take money from other useless parts (like the website that the private sector has entirely covered, or the supercomputer upgrade that won't actually help), but instead, they're going to stop predicting hurricanes in an effort to get more money to waste.

Nothing to do with Republicans, everything to do with government waste and greed.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805295)

Nothing to do with Republicans, everything to do with government waste and greed.

That has as much to do with Republicans as Democrats. We spend as much on our military as the rest of the world combined. That's ridiculous.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#43805715)

Nothing to do with Republicans, everything to do with government waste and greed.

That has as much to do with Republicans as Democrats. We spend as much on our military as the rest of the world combined. That's ridiculous.

Promote 'em to Astronauts. Then everything will be fine.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805667)

Private websites don't release all that information for free, do they?

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (2)

corando (2785235) | about a year ago | (#43805729)

I actually really like their website, especially the hourly weather graph and radar images. I find it handier (and more ad free) than many private sites.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (3, Insightful)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about a year ago | (#43805839)

> It's just a ploy for more money. They could take money from other useless parts

Your logic is the same as any conspiracy theorist - it can't be disproved. You'll always be able to pull up some government program that you personally don't think is worthwhile as "proof" that teh government is just holding people hostage for funding.

While I am sure that within the tens of thousands of different budgets internal to the us federal government there is funny business going on, it is specious to claim that is what is going on every time something serious breaks. The government is just not that well organized.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Insightful)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about a year ago | (#43805899)

They could take money from other useless parts (like the website that the private sector has entirely covered

Uh, where do you think "the private sector" is getting their data from?

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

ebno-10db (1459097) | about a year ago | (#43805993)

OK, we choose to cut weather forecasting for the northeast, rather than our useless website or that $200 million supercomputer to beat out the EU

That's $25M, not $200M, and I suspect the website is even cheaper.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1, Insightful)

acoustix (123925) | about a year ago | (#43805187)

Unfortunately, because of Republican intransigence in Congress, they haven't been able to build and launch a new bird..

Bullshit. The Dems had a supermajority of Congress in 2009 and 2010 and also held the office of the President. Why didn't they act then? Oh, I guess that doesn't fit your narrow-minded "republicans are evil and stupid" mindset.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805319)

Ah, yes, the supermajority they held for that long stretch between September 24 2009 and February 4 2010.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Informative)

t4ng* (1092951) | about a year ago | (#43805341)

Actually, Democrats only kind of had a super majority for about 4 months starting at the end of 2009. But only if you count 2 independents and the blue dog Democrats as voting with them, which they don't. So instead, you had the Republicans using the filibuster more than any Congress in history. Oh, but wait, the only way they've been able to filibuster so often is because they just expressed their intent to filibuster without actually doing the time consuming work of a filibuster. That way they can quickly get on with the business of expressing intent to filibuster even more.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Rockoon (1252108) | about a year ago | (#43805629)

So instead, you had the Republicans using the filibuster more than any Congress in history.

More times than ever in history, so every other time in history had a negative sum of filibuster occurrences? (hint: zero filibusters during the period you claim)

I know that the Democrats equate threats of a filibuster with actual filibusters, but they seem to only do so when its convenient, and absolutely refuse to compare the records on equal terms. The number of Democrat filibusters only includes actual filibusters, while the number of Republican filibusters includes any time someone says the word 'filibuster.'

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (2)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | about a year ago | (#43805757)

The only caveat is that Sen. Majority Leader Reid has had multiple opportunities to reform/repeal the filibuster and hasn't. Nor has he called the GOP's bluff and made them actually filibuster.

If you let the bully continue to bully you, you are not innocent in the results.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

thomasw_lrd (1203850) | about a year ago | (#43805369)

I think that was his point. In the US Dems and Repubs are just two sides of the same coin. Doesn't matter which side it lands on, the US people are going to get screwed.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805371)

It's not narrow-minded if it's true.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

Fieryphoenix (1161565) | about a year ago | (#43805711)

As I recall, supermajority be damned, they couldn't break a filibuster. And they didn't have a Senate supermajority, either, they were one short at 59. Are you creating some sort of meta-congressional supermajority of all members of both Houses to make your case look good? Cause if so, it's irrelevant to making the case that Democrats had a total lock on power in the 111th Congressional session, becaues they certainly didn't.

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (-1, Troll)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year ago | (#43805465)

But if they had, Obama would have taken all the credit for it, right? Because the (R) can never do good, and a (D) can never do bad in your world ... right? I'm just waiting till some Libtard tries to blame the IRS scandal on GWB. Oh wait, already happened ....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/nancy-pelosi-george-bush_n_3326029.html [huffingtonpost.com]

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (5, Informative)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | about a year ago | (#43805479)

Unfortunately, because of Republican intransigence in Congress, they haven't been able to build and launch a new bird.

Didn't read even TFS, I see.

They've already activated the back-up satellite (GOES-14), which has been in orbit waiting for this for four years now (launched in 2009).

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (3, Funny)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about a year ago | (#43805871)

Yeah, it was "impossible to predict weather patterns on the US East Coast" for like 15 minutes until they took the backup satellite off standby.

Whew, that was close! Those hurricanes come out of nowhere!

Re:They saw this coming for ages... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805593)

Good lord! Now we're politicizing weather...

If the first thing you think of when you see 'Main US Weather Satellite Fails As Hurricane Season Looms' is 'darn those stupid Republicans', you might need to detox a bit from HuffPo and MSNBC. Otherwise, it won't be long before you start blaming seg faults on Bush's incompetence.

check the weather out west (1)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#43804991)

in the USA weather moves west to east
most times rain in denver or elsewhere in the midwest means rain in NYC 2-3 days later

i also like to which western baseball games were rained out. back when Coors Field was snowed in and the Mets-Rockies games were postponed, NYC got the rain a few days later. same with the other cities west of us

Re:check the weather out west (2)

qvatch (576224) | about a year ago | (#43805009)

Excepting when it comes off the gulf, or from Canada. Or when it becomes suddenly severe. But yes, typically it does come from the west.

Re:check the weather out west (1)

0racle (667029) | about a year ago | (#43805885)

or from the Atlantic. So it comes from the west, except all the times that it doesn't.

Re:check the weather out west (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#43805015)

Really, the hurricanes mentioned in the story move from west to east?

Re:check the weather out west (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | about a year ago | (#43805297)

Technically the northern half of the storm does move from west to east (relatively)... So he was maybe half right? Come on, be an optimist...

Re:check the weather out west (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#43805429)

Optimism, on slashdot?

Re:check the weather out west (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805305)

Yup, they go from the Pacific ocean, all the way down to the Antarctic and back up into the Atlantic. /sarcasm

Re:check the weather out west (5, Informative)

brian1078 (230523) | about a year ago | (#43805029)

in the USA weather moves west to east

Generally, yes. But many tropical systems that affect the eastern US start their formation off the coast of Africa and move East to West.

Re:check the weather out west (1)

drainbramage (588291) | about a year ago | (#43805285)

Well, that's still West.
Just really, really West.
Like, go West young man, then swim, then keep going.
That's how Columbus did it and if it was good enough for the Queen then it should be good enough for you.

Re:check the weather out west (1)

earlzdotnet (2788729) | about a year ago | (#43805055)

Yep. This. I'm originally from Oklahoma, but living in Ohio. It seems like when all my friends from Oklahoma are complaining about the weather, I'll have that same weather the next day. This proved extremely true this winter, like 90% of the times it rained/snowed there, it'd rain/snow here a day later. It's proving less true though now in Spring though. The thing that really throws me off is here bands of rain seem to not quite move west to east. In Oklahoma though, it moves almost perfect west to east in almost all cases.

weather is hard.

Re:check the weather out west (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805315)

Two problems:

1) East coast folks usually don't acknowledge anything farther west, so when the weather reaches them, only then does it become news.
2) Most hurricane weather forms in the Atlantic and travels up the east coast (or up the Gulf).

Re: check the weaths out west (2)

Fallen Kell (165468) | about a year ago | (#43805395)

in the USA weather moves west to east

Except when it doesn't and goes west off Africa and comes in from the southeast and slams across Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, South/North Carolina, Virgina, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, etc.. Or when it comes in from the North Atlantic from the northeast....

Re: check the weaths out west (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year ago | (#43805519)

Except when it doesn't and goes west off Africa and comes in from the southeast and slams across Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, South/North Carolina, Virgina, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, etc.. Or when it comes in from the North Atlantic from the northeast....

Hello? Louisiana.....

Did we just suddenly fall off the fuckin' hurricane map?!? WhooHoo...I certainly hope so!!! That way, I can get rid of that damned flood insurance, and not have to leave town a couple times each summer...

:)

Hurricanes are a huge exception to that (1)

istartedi (132515) | about a year ago | (#43805453)

Your typical monster hurricane track starts off the west coast of Africa. It moves WEST in the tropics, then heads NORTH along the eastern US, often continuing some westward motion even well north of the tropics. It does eventually head east, but usually not until the damage is done. Think of it as a big C curve that is mostly over the Atlantic and/or Gulf of Mexico. If we're lucky, the left side of the C doesn't intersect land.

In hurricane season the weather satellite... (1)

iampiti (1059688) | about a year ago | (#43805033)

...GOES to sleep.

Jokes (0, Troll)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about a year ago | (#43805035)

Meteorologists cannot predict the weather very well WITH the satellite in orbit. So now, all of a sudden, with no satellite, they are going to predict the weather even more poorly?

Perhaps they should invest in a weather rock instead.

Re:Jokes (2)

kannibal_klown (531544) | about a year ago | (#43805049)

In the meantime, they'll just give each weatherman a D20 and a roll-sheet and tell them to predict that way.

Re:Jokes (1)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about a year ago | (#43805259)

They will need more than just a D20. Give them a bag with a D20, some percentiles, and 3 D6 dice, some roll-sheet and some other tables to which to add the random noise to. Granted it will cost a bit more but would provide much more useful information and probably similar to quality to what we currently have. That gives me an idea for a website called D20weather.com although I probably wouldn't get around to doing anything with it as I have too many projects already so if someone else wants to take a run at it.

Re:Jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805145)

While they aren't always very accurate, they aren't all that bad either. Usually you can plan your weekend based on the predictions. I am quite happy to have them.

Re:Jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805207)

While they aren't always very accurate, they aren't all that bad either. Usually you can plan your weekend based on the predictions. I am quite happy to have them.

Yeah, if waiting until Friday afternoon is considered planning. Anything more than 3 days out is pure garbage.

Re:Jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805313)

Global Warming caused it.

Re:Jokes (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#43805437)

A big satellite image of a rotating storm system in the atlantic at least shows that SOMETHING is gonna happen.

Re:Jokes (1)

Col. Klink (retired) (11632) | about a year ago | (#43805507)

That's not very fair. They were able to predict 9 of the last 3 storms!

Re:Jokes (4, Insightful)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about a year ago | (#43805573)

Were you even alive before weather satellites? I remember what it was like 40 years ago, and the accuracy of prediction is now far superior to what it used to be.

The prediction of storm tracks in particular has gotten to be really good. For example the Sandy track prediction was excellent despite the complexity of the situation.

Re:Jokes (1)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about a year ago | (#43805677)

This March, these meteorologists predicted 1 foot of snow or more throughout the DC area overnight. When I woke up, there was 3 inches of snow on the ground. If that is considered superior, then the Borg would probably refuse to assimilate you because it would be a step backwards.

Re:Jokes (2)

Jesus_666 (702802) | about a year ago | (#43805921)

Hang on. Are you asserting that "one foot of snow predicted; three inches of snow in reality" is the worst possible prediction? So if they had predicted two feet of snow or a sunny 90 deg. F those would have both been better predictions? What metric are you using here?

Note that "superior" does not mean "the best possible", it just means "better". Either you know (but didn't bother to mention) that 40 years ago weather prediction was so significantly more precise that your single anecdote is sufficient to illustrate that fact or you believe (as I have asserted in the first paragraph) that the prediction in your anecdote was literally the worst possible weather prediction imaginable, which would make it very likely that predictions were more accurate 40 years ago. Neither position makes a lot of sense.

For the sake of my amusement I shall assume that you indeed consider the prediction to be the worst possible because of your irrational hatred of things that are one foot long.

Re:Jokes (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about a year ago | (#43805971)

Yeah, and I remember getting 6 inches of "flurries" one Thanksgiving.

Of course, you neglect the other 364 days of the year when they were spot on.

Re:Jokes (1)

hutsell (1228828) | about a year ago | (#43805621)

Meteorologists cannot predict the weather very well WITH the satellite in orbit. So now, all of a sudden, with no satellite, they are going to predict the weather even more poorly?

Perhaps they should invest in a weather rock instead.

What will they do? They might try to do what was done up until about 30 or so years ago before GOES. Presently, it appears to be just a lot more data with about the same time frame when it comes to predictability. (Would Katrina have been any different without its use?)

Then again, since IANAM[eterologist], the idea may be full of hot air.

Re:Jokes (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#43805791)

Meteorologists cannot predict the weather very well WITH the satellite in orbit. So now, all of a sudden, with no satellite, they are going to predict the weather even more poorly?

Perhaps they should invest in a weather rock instead.

Hmmm, well maybe in addition to the satellites for accuracy verification. I mean, they're relatively cheap, and Weather rocks ARE never wrong... [da-woody.com]

Re:Jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805801)

Granny had a bug.

Re:Jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805845)

All the hot air coming out of Washington screws up the forecasts.

Another link to IBTIMES?? with their video ad? (4, Informative)

qubezz (520511) | about a year ago | (#43805087)

Try the source at http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/05/22/weather-satellite-fails/2351927/ [usatoday.com]

Satellite logs are at http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/messages.html [noaa.gov] , it looks like the satellite failed to return imaging two days ago and is now being put into a storage mode.

Re:Another link to IBTIMES?? with their video ad? (1)

Solandri (704621) | about a year ago | (#43805505)

To be fair to the submitter and editor, I use an ad blocker and didn't know ibtimes.com had intrusive ads until your post. On second thought, I guess this is one of the things an editor should be checking, so I'll only excuse the submitter.

Tuesday? (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about a year ago | (#43805111)

The way it's been this year, you'd think GOES-13 failed a long time ago.

Nothing to worry about (5, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | about a year ago | (#43805153)

If the weather satellite fails, we can just get our weather from the Internet like everybody else [slashdot.org] .

It works for earthquakes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805835)

http://blog.xkcd.com/2011/08/24/earthquakes/ [xkcd.com]

Just set up a script to scan twitter for #hurricane and plot the results.

Except its not impossible to (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805191)

GOES-14 will be on station shortly, GOES-15 is currently in "full disk mode" eg, getting the whole disk of Earth, instead of being zoomed in on the Western US.. Sure, not as much detail as we'd like, but its not like we're totally blind... BUT, now we need to get another bird up... we're running out of redundancy.

god, to I have to tell you people everything?!! (2)

Thud457 (234763) | about a year ago | (#43805281)

Just send the shuttle up to fix it.

Re:god, to I have to tell you people everything?!! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805617)

All of these are geostationary satellites. The space shuttle wouldn't have been able to reach them.

Not impossible, used to bulls-eye womprats (0)

jdigriz (676802) | about a year ago | (#43805287)

Summary says "impossible to" . Article says Next to Impossible to. Let's have the boys in the ISS take a few pics out the window. It's not as convenient and the passes are much less frequent, but hey, it's something. Also GOES 14 is coming on-line. Now if that fails, we really will be limited to ISS observation.

Re:Not impossible, used to bulls-eye womprats (1)

jdigriz (676802) | about a year ago | (#43805351)

Hmm, just reread the article. The earliest instance is 'impossible' the next mention is "next to impossible." Poor editing, and inaccurate to boot.

More Information (5, Informative)

PineHall (206441) | about a year ago | (#43805345)

The satellite blog [wisc.edu] at University of Wisconsin has more information including some images from GOES 14, now turned on.

A bit dramatic... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805463)

I feel like the article is a bit more doomsday than it should be. "impossible to predict weather patterns"? Hardly. Goes 14 is already active as of today according to the NOAA CLASS database and covers a good portion of the area GOES 13 covered even before they move it to a new spot. Also don't forget the polar orbiters (POES) satellites that will cover the same area several times a day with equally, or more in the case of Suomi NPP, advanced instruments. Plus the European satellites contribute to forecasts. So it's hardly like a hurricane will form without us knowing...

data from military weather satellites (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805515)

Why not get weather data from military satellites? With better resolution and guaranteed performance, military satellite data ought to be able to help us through this crisis. Fudge and jitter the data, shake out any tactical value, but don't blind us to the next hurricane.

Re:data from military weather satellites (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805579)

I think the DMSP satellites already feed data into the NOAA forecasts and models. And depite being military birds they only have a resolution on 0.56km, so not nearly high enough to do anything with (there are other weather sats with 350 meter resolution as well). I think what the article really misses is that just because you can't see a satellite image on a weather website, it doesn't mean NOAA doesn't have 10+ other satellites feeding them data (which they do)...

Satellite must not have been working for some time (2)

smooth wombat (796938) | about a year ago | (#43805607)

Based on how poor the weather reports along the East Coast have been for the last few months, the satellite must have gone down much earlier.

Case in point, the weather for New York on 5/20, after looking at several different sources the day before, all said the same thing: low 70s with partly cloudy skies. The result: cloud blocked skies and light rain.

If you can't get the report right 12 hours before something happens, why should we listen to you for something a few days down the road?

Just remember, (1, Troll)

houbou (1097327) | about a year ago | (#43805701)

the most accurate weather report comes from 1) look outside your window and 2) open the door.

The satelite's been broken for a while! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43805733)

This same satelite, GOES-13, already failed (according to reports from September 2012)- http://news.yahoo.com/key-us-east-coast-weather-satellite-goes-13-141636708.html

Maybe it was fixed, but—at least according to the above referenced article—GOES-14 took over as the main satelite for the East Coast since 2012.

many would say (0)

nimbius (983462) | about a year ago | (#43805989)

the loss of a forecast satellite is an event that can be computationally determined to a certain degree of accuracy.

id like to think its all part of gods divine plan to obliterate as much of the bible belt as possible each year.
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