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Anti-Gravity! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833887)

At first glance I was extremely excited to hear about anti-gravity trains, but then my joy was quickly destroyed by graffiti.

The same here! (1)

mha (1305) | about a year ago | (#43834013)

EXACTLY what happened to me - for 1/10 of a second I thought I was reading about anti-GRAVITY in trains. Then I suddenly remembered which lousy century I was born into and it all fell apart even before the part of my brain responsible for reading comprehension could finish its job.

Re:The same here! (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#43834665)

Then I suddenly remembered which lousy century I was born into

Well, and I read this sentence of yours as "which lousy country" and thought that you were a compaining German DB customer. :-) (BTW, I've also read it as anti-gravity. I guess I need new glasses! I've heard Google started making some nice ones...)

In other recursive news (5, Funny)

daniel.garcia.romero (2755603) | about a year ago | (#43833905)

"Germany's national railway company, Deutsche Bahn, plans to test small drones to try to reduce the theft of small drones introduced earlier. The idea is to use airborne infra-red cameras to collect evidence, which could then be used to prosecute vandals who steal property at night. A company spokesman said drones would be tested at rail depots soon."

Re:In other recursive news (0)

T-Bucket (823202) | about a year ago | (#43833919)

"Germany's national railway company, Deutsche Bahn, plans to test larger, armed drones to try to reduce the theft of small drones introduced earlier. The idea is to use airborne infra-red cameras to collect evidence, which could then be used to prosecute vandals who steal property at night. A company spokesman said drones would be tested at rail depots soon."

Fixed that for ya.

Re:In other recursive news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834131)

Germany's painters plan to test 99c balaclavas to try to reduce the evidence collected by 9,900 € airborne drones with infra-red cameras. A spokesman for the painters said it will protect their skin from chemical agents too.

Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833907)

What's the point?

Is graffiti on train cars such a massive problem in society that it warrants spending tax dollars, or jacked up rates for shipping customers?

This seems like another case of trying to find a non-evil use for all these drones being engineered which really aren't very useful except for mostly-evil things.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833947)

I once listened to a German rant about their mass transit system. And how they did not staff even enough employees to manage ticketing appropriately and how they would basically bully people for riding the train even if they refused to sell tickets to a large group. Even of those people were willing to pay for tickets at the destination.

They need to pull their heads out their asses and start running their business like a real business rather then a public works program.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#43834041)

Well set out side of Germany and the stories told by Germans is all about how wonderful the German trains system are, and how advanced they are compared to anything else in the world, and how everyone could take a lesson from Germany.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (3, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | about a year ago | (#43834111)

I'm not German, but their railway is very good.

A group ticket for five people for a 120km journey last week (on a week-day) cost EUR35. We were over an hour early, due to a tail-wind on the flight, and were surprised that the booked ticket was still valid for the earlier train.

A similar journey in the UK (where I live) would have cost a *lot* more, like EUR15-20 each, and we couldn't have got the earlier train without buying new tickets. However, the British train would probably have been longer (more space) and faster. (The German high-speed ICE is faster than the British intercity trains, but the German local trains seem to be slower than normal British trains.)

Oh, and the German trains and surroundings definitely have more graffiti. So does Germany in general.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (2)

flayzernax (1060680) | about a year ago | (#43834145)

People can be overly critical of a good system on a bad day if they have high expectations from it.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (3, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | about a year ago | (#43834317)

People can be overly critical of a good system on a bad day if they have high expectations from it.

Believe me, I know. I'm British, and live in London.

On holiday in Germany, my friends mostly complained about how bad British [everything] was in comparison, which gets old pretty quickly. I think it's worse than the general complaining -- without comparison -- back in Britain, since at least there I can pretend people haven't travelled much and don't know any better.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (2)

mozumder (178398) | about a year ago | (#43834301)

Well set out side of Germany and the stories told by Germans is all about how wonderful the German trains system are, and how advanced they are compared to anything else in the world, and how everyone could take a lesson from Germany.

That is correct.

Compare that to the US, where they don't even have a rail system where people could possibly complain about how pretty it should be.

Americans would much rather have their 15,000 traffic fatalities a year in cars and pay energy companies for their transportation.

The US could take a lesson from Germany. Right now, the German system is SO good, that the only problems left are people complaining about how pretty it is.

And, it should be treated as a public-works program, NOT a for-profit business. That is because the road-system is also treated as a public-works program, instead of a for-profit business.

NO government service should EVER be treated as a for-profit business.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43835171)

I'm wondering what people you spoke to. As a german I can assure you that we complain loudly and bitterly about German Railways all the time to a point at which it is simply unfair.

Compared to many other countries our rail system is very good, but leaves a lot to be desired when compared to the swiss.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#43835299)

I'm wondering what people you spoke to.

German tourists in the US. Do you require names?

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833953)

I don't know about our neighbors to the north, but here in Austria, theft of copper cables appears to be a much worse problem.

Re: Techy drone-boners must stop. (2)

Cenan (1892902) | about a year ago | (#43834295)

It's the same north of Germany. We see a lot of cable copper theft, I don't think anyone cares about the graffiti - this sounds like someone tried to find an angle for the story but knew jack shit about the situation. A camera on a stick is equally good at spotting thieves and vandals.

Re: Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

al.caughey (1426989) | about a year ago | (#43834745)

A camera on a stick is equally good at spotting thieves and vandals.

But not so effective without the aforementioned copper bits to supply the power.

What's the comparable scrap value of a drone?

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1, Informative)

toutankh (1544253) | about a year ago | (#43833989)

Don't worry, the spray paint lobby will talk to the right persons and make this nonsense stop.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834033)

Why stop there? Gang related tagging of buildings, dumpsters and public stuff could be stopped with some .50 cal. equipped drones, the number of gang members reduced and any tax money they would've taken up in the course of justice. Like zappin roaches with a laser.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

snowjest (638941) | about a year ago | (#43834155)

More to the point, what's the point of trains?

It seems to me that a better way to solve the graffiti problem is to do away with the trains altogether. Rip up the rails and their place lay down some nice smooth tarmac/asphalt. Then run self driving vehicles along these lines. I wouldn't trust a self driving car on a road where most of the other cars have a nut behind the wheel, but if all the other vehicles on the "road" were all driven by computers talking to one and other, then I'd be more than happy. And once I get to my "station" the system would direct my car to an exit siding. Once there I would engage the manual driving mode of my pod, and take it home - where hopefully it won't get spayed with some gangster man's tag.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834307)

Seriously? You want to reduce capacity tenfold and increase power usage (see watt/person for the motor, transmission losses, wheel friction, etc.) just so that you get small individual pods?
I'm Swiss, and as someone who spends between 15 and 60 minutes daily on a train, I think that every country without an extensive and saturated train network is underdeveloped. The Germans barely qualify ;P.
Sure I can use my car, but it's often clearly the inferior option since trains (resp. public transport in general) go pretty much everywhere.

captcha: closer

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834327)

Go back to America, dumbass SUVrider.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (4, Interesting)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about a year ago | (#43834787)

Read AC's post.

Trains are fuel efficient. Right here in the US, it's been demonstrated that a train can move freight for a small fraction of the cost that trucks can move freight. The only problem with trains here, is that they are never on time. You can't send a refrigerated car filled with vegetables from Yuma to Philadelphia, because you never know when it will arrive. An 18-wheeler gets it there reliably, in 4 days with a solo driver, 2 days with team drivers. But - the COST is ridiculous.

If the idiots who manage the trains could just figure out how to SCHEDULE the damned things, we could save tons of money on everything.

Including passenger service.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (3, Interesting)

schnipschnap (739127) | about a year ago | (#43834185)

Graffiti is a huge problem in Germany. All the graffiti is really embarrassing when I'm in Berlin with people from abroad.
Less graffiti probably means more tourists and less service outages because the train you were supposed to take is currently being cleaned, so there you get your tax dollars right back. (Not to mention that getting caught means you have to foot the bill for the removal of your graffiti, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to get you to pay some fraction of whatever the drones and their infrastructure cost, too.)
And most important, less graffiti also means fewer people stressed from eye cancer, and possibly fewer people who think it's okay to be a criminal.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834297)

To be honest, I envy a country where graffity is the biggest problem with the railway, and where people are embarrassed of it instead of accepting it resignatedly.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43835125)

It's not the biggest problem anymore. Cable theft is on the rise. For the relatively small material value of the copper cables, thieves cause long delays for people traveling by train and car: The trains have to slow down to a crawl to cross roads and the cars have to wait much longer while the barriers are controlled manually.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834577)

And most important, less graffiti also means fewer people stressed from eye cancer

Sorry, you'll need to ban advertising for that. Graffiti is small mushrooms in a forest of billboards.

Huge problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834651)

Pfeh. I'm in Berlin, and graffitti is the least of my problems. Really.

Less stupid spending (new airport anyone?). Less garbage on the streets. Better maintained railroads. Anything but graffitti.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (3, Interesting)

roman_mir (125474) | about a year ago | (#43834721)

At least when graffiti is found under bridges and on old rusty depot buildings around rail roads (you'll see this in Strasbourg for example) it's tolerable, because those bridges and buildings are truly ugly, I mean depressingly ugly.

When the train cars are being vandalised this way it's just retarded.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834907)

If you want those bridges to be painted, then go through the appropriate channels. There is never an excuse to illegally graffiti.

They should consider the art alternative (1)

aepervius (535155) | about a year ago | (#43834823)

In my home city they painted graffiti over, then tried some paint which was washable. To no avail and great cost.

Then they came to a very simple idea : ask a few artist and grafiti maker to make a painting , real art, with a subject.

Not only those are beautiful, but grafiti maker seems to respect those are and only tags blank walls..

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (4, Interesting)

zmooc (33175) | about a year ago | (#43834861)

I visited Germany recently and enjoyed the graffiti tremendously. While there's some utter crap, I found the graffiti to be of significantly higher quality than what I typically encounter in my home country.

Less graffiti probably means more tourists (...)

I highly doubt that - possibly even on the contrary. Graffiti is an important part of what makes Berlin Berlin.

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about a year ago | (#43834273)

As someone not fluent in German, I used to use the graffiti in the German tunnel system to figure out where I was; the artwork is very localized, with different areas having different tags. I probably would have got lost many times if not for the graffiti that made the various tunnels in places like Koln look unique.

As for the at-grade rail system though; the signage is generally good enough so that I know where I am. As long as the informational signs aren't being defaced, this is probably not all that useful a program. However, it's a better idea than throwing people at the problem, and will end up with a few kids getting some neat electronics to play with instead of wasting an evening going tagging....

Re:Techy drone-boners must stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834277)

Is graffiti on train cars such a massive problem in society that it warrants spending tax dollars, or jacked up rates for shipping customers?

Yes. Not sure what planet you're from but here on Earth we like things to look nice and tidy, especially public property. Our governments spend a ton of tax Euros planting flowers in the parks, keeping the streets clean, repainting buildings, and so on. Same goes for trains, when we pass them or they pass by us we don't like to see them covered with graffiti. And honestly does it cost that much per capita to run these drones? I doubt it.

And please, stop whining about jacking up rates, what bullshit. You're not talking about some food chain that can change their prices at a whim, the public has a field day every time public transportation prices go up. Most likely they've figured they come out even by saving on cleaning/repainting costs or as you mentioned yourself they get subsidies from taxes.

Will the drones be running linux. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833923)

If not you will be able to challenge any data in court and ask to see the source code.

Anti-gravity (4, Insightful)

Koyaanisqatsi (581196) | about a year ago | (#43833927)

Raise your hand if you read that too.

Paint me disappointed :(

Re:Anti-gravity (1)

javajawa (126489) | about a year ago | (#43833975)

Saw it... not entirely sure if it was intentional, or not... vaguely reading the comments to see how many people are commenting on anti-gravity without reading the summary.

Re:Anti-gravity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834235)

I read it as Anti-Giraffe

Re:Anti-gravity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834895)

I could paint you disappointed, but then again a drone may snap a picture and I would and up prosecuted.

Germany vs. USA (1)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | about a year ago | (#43833945)

If America was involved, our drones would "fix" the graffiti with a Hellfire missile. I like the German solution better.

Ironic that 60 years later, we're more inclined to use killer flying robots to assassinate our enemies than are the Germans.

Re:Germany vs. USA (3, Funny)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#43834139)

I like the American solution better. Its been shown to reduce recidivism.

obviously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833949)

It was the guy in teh hoody.

When NY won the graf war on trains (by cleaning them, and never ket them ride painted) all graffity did was spread out everywhere else.

Be careful what you wish for DB.

Re:obviously (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#43834071)

But it largely worked on the trains. Nobody saw the graffiti, and the taggers went elsewhere.

I assume your argument is that we should have let them paint the train, in the vain hope that it wouldn't spread to buildings.
Pretty short sited, in that graffiti on buildings preceded trains.

Re:obviously (1)

flayzernax (1060680) | about a year ago | (#43834115)

Or hire human guards. You know. Employing a few people to politely escort the kids out of the train station. I would do that job. Would have no problem detaining the ones that would not politely leave.

Re:obviously (5, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#43834231)

Or hire human guards. You know. Employing a few people to politely escort the kids out of the train station. I would do that job. Would have no problem detaining the ones that would not politely leave.

It doesn't happen in the train station.

Its actually when the trains are parked that they get spray painted. Some of this Graffiti are elaborate works of (misplaced) art, that take hours to apply.

Railroads are starting to fence off their switch and storage yards, and put cameras high up on polls, which makes far more sense than a drone. One guy can watch 50 cameras, but each drone takes a separate operator to fly and monitor.

Drones are a stupid idea.

Re:obviously (2)

compro01 (777531) | about a year ago | (#43834897)

One guy can watch 50 cameras, but each drone takes a separate operator to fly and monitor.

Depends on how autonomous the drones are. An autopilot system running them around defined points (and allowing you to take manual control to get better view if you see something happening) shouldn't be too difficult.

Re:obviously (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#43835001)

And cost effective too compared to a less than $200 dollar pole mounted cameras.
The more autonomous you try to make it the higher the cost. And when the vandals fling a chunk of dog chain at it, the total investment is lost.

Re:obviously (1)

Minwee (522556) | about a year ago | (#43834955)

Railroads are starting to fence off their switch and storage yards, and put cameras high up on polls,

What I don't understand is who keeps voting for all of those cameras, and how come they do so well in the polls.

Re:obviously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834975)

IIRC, New York City solved the problem with dogs.

Re:obviously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834259)

Not where I live (central Europe) - Painted trains rarely to never go on track, yet they're painted all the time. The sprayers brag with photos in magazines (for money!), videos (for money!), in forums and on youtube.

See this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RS1OCs8-c8 [youtube.com] and thousands of other videos.

Re:obviously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834989)

Seems like a case of people don't give a shit enough to fix the problem the old fashioned way. The paint job was not that great.

Therefore the rewards out way the potential punishment or lack there-of.

Personally I wouldn't advocate violent force over some stupid spray paint. But I would definitely do something like make the train spray shit back from ports on the side =)

graffiti drones (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43833973)

...will be next. And sure enough, it will end with high-AI drones that design their own graffiti, keep the railway free of undue surveillance, and feed off either contact lines or aluminium beer bottles and drain cleaner.

The New Kind (0)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year ago | (#43834045)

I think if this cheesy, childish and dubstep-overfilled series had become popular, this idea wouldn't get off the ground...

Re:The New Kind (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#43834233)

I think if this cheesy, childish and dubstep-overfilled series had become popular...

...then we'd know what the hell you were talking about.

Re:The New Kind (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year ago | (#43834285)

First episode opened with a scene with some teenagers trying to graffiti a wall while avoiding surveillance drones.

Demolition Man (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834051)

In 2032 the solution will be even cooler [youtube.com].

Re:Demolition Man (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834135)

Thanks. That is _exactly_ what this story reminded me of.

Re:Demolition Man (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#43834409)

Me too, however after coming back to 2013 I thought that oleophobic coating would solve the problem at the source.

Expensive high-tech instead of simplicity (2)

ReallyEvilCanine (991886) | about a year ago | (#43834055)

Simply turning off the fucking floodlights wouldn't just save DB a fortune on juice, it makes vandal highly visible. You can't tag if you can't see; any light is a give-away. But since DB can count on continued tax money and political support -- and because no bureaucrat or middle manager ever got ahead by reducing waste or head count -- they'll spearhead the use of drones. The justice ministry and police will follow.

Re:Expensive high-tech instead of simplicity (1)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about a year ago | (#43834987)

Or they could just use dogs, or security guards, or coat the carriages in something that resists spray paint.

Find a better use... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834069)

Instead they should make drones to autonomously clean up the graffiti. A lot better use, a lot more interesting, and something a lot more people could get behind.

Total surveillance will stop crime (4, Insightful)

joe_frisch (1366229) | about a year ago | (#43834089)

We can stop essentially all crime, or at least prosecute it after it happens by installing surveillance everywhere. We need to decide where we are willing to use this technology. This particular application seems pretty harmless - as long as the railway companies don't decide that now that they have the drones they might as well monitor employee efficiency.....

Re:Total surveillance will stop crime (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about a year ago | (#43834097)

different concept from this article, a company policing its own property with surveillance system. no different from you or I doing it for our business or home. police can subpoena for records.

Employee Efficiency (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#43834199)

If shareholders could build a drone to track their companies CEO and other officers and make sure they are getting an honest day's work for their pay, I'm all for it.

The ROI for tracking thousands of minimum wage grunts around to save a few pennies isn't worth it. One drone to keep an eye on $5 million a year? It could pay off.

Re:Employee Efficiency (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834893)

The ROI for tracking thousands of minimum wage grunts around to save a few pennies isn't worth it. One drone to keep an eye on $5 million a year? It could pay off.

Don't be silly. Everyone knows Big Brother can't watch everyone all the time, the trick is you don't know when he is or is not watching.

Re:Total surveillance will stop crime (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about a year ago | (#43834207)

We can stop essentially all crime, or at least prosecute it after it happens by installing surveillance everywhere

Well I suppose one could you take a look at the UK and their surveillance everywhere idea and how it's not doing squat for reducing crime rates. Rather with fewer bodies on the ground, criminals know exactly when and where to hit because of how long it takes police to respond. And how to foil the system as well.

Really if they wanted to reduce graffiti, they'd have people on the ground doing patrols. It works, even if it's random. They don't need to be peace officers, or the german equivalent but rather min. wage patrollers who watch high value targets and can call in police. Arm them with camera's and some stuff for self defense and call it a day.

Re:Total surveillance will stop crime (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | about a year ago | (#43834601)

Well I suppose one could you take a look at the UK and their surveillance everywhere idea and how it's not doing squat for reducing crime rates.

Care to share your source that proves it does squat regarding crime rates, for any single area in the United Kingdom?

Re:Total surveillance will stop crime (0)

Motard (1553251) | about a year ago | (#43834303)

First, they came for the graffiti artists....

Re:Total surveillance will stop crime (2)

flayzernax (1060680) | about a year ago | (#43835015)

Vandalizing property is not speech guy.... Not saying graffiti doesn't have any merits. Just that your comparing apple to oranges. If the paint like washed off with the rain it would be more like free speech.

Weird exercise (1)

Reliable Windmill (2932227) | about a year ago | (#43834099)

What a weird exercise in spending and modernization. It will be cheaper and simpler to just install more lighting and hire some security guards.

Good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834129)

Given that most vandals are potheads with extensive criminal records this will help clean up the worthless trash that's ruining Germany.

Fix a paintball gun on them (5, Funny)

Hentes (2461350) | about a year ago | (#43834167)

and give the vandals a taste of their own medicine.

Re:Fix a paintball gun on them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834441)

I'd rather see the drones get graffitied.

Graffiti drones (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834179)

How long before writers get their own graffiti drones?
Mandatory video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDrYkwG6Tuo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Instead of hunting graffiti (1)

prefec2 (875483) | about a year ago | (#43834211)

They should fix their trains and tracks so the trains are no longer later that often. Since they started becoming a privatized company, they raised prices and lowered service quality. They let the infrastructure rot and the new infrastructure they build is crumbling after five years.

Maybe they should send armed drones after the management.

BTW: The former CEO of the German railway is now in charge of the not yet completed new airport Berlin-Brandenburg. ;-)

Graffiti strike drones! (1)

Plazmid (1132467) | about a year ago | (#43834213)

It's only a matter of time now before someone mounts a stencil and a servo actuated sprayer on a quadcopter and starts putting graffiti in places that are difficult to reach!

Demolition Man! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834245)

John Spartan: [whispering to Lenina] Look, I don't know if you guys know it, but uh... you're out of toilet paper.

Alfredo Garcia: [confused] Did... did you say toilet *paper*?

Lenina Huxley: Um... they used handfuls of wadded paper back in the 20th...

[Lenina, Alfredo, and Erwin all laugh]

John Spartan: I'm happy that you're happy, but the place where you're supposed to have the toilet paper, you've got this little shelf with three seashells on it.

Erwin: He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!

[Erwin continues to laugh, then calms down]

Erwin: I can see how that could be confusing.

Half Life 2 (1)

xdor (1218206) | about a year ago | (#43834281)

Combine monitor drones first appearance traced back to dealing with graffiti at railroad stations...

Re:Half Life 2 (1)

nukenerd (172703) | about a year ago | (#43834351)

First mention of Half-Life. Its drones are what sprang to my mind immediately.

I find the shotgun is the best way to bring them down.

Unintended Consquences. (1)

hEpen (96597) | about a year ago | (#43834313)

This is the best way to cultivate anti-drone technology. Use drones to fuck with bored youth that have discretionary income.

to steal a joke from Fefe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834325)

They can't even make the trains run on time and now they want drones?

Cue defaced drones... (1)

SharpFang (651121) | about a year ago | (#43834583)

...in 3...2...1...

I can imagine them dragging wide ribbons with guerrilla art across the public space.

Rheinmetall (2)

TuringCheck (1989202) | about a year ago | (#43834709)

Next move is to install some of the "other" Rheinmetall products on the drones and the grafitti problem will be solved fully automatically >:->

Excellent news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43834943)

In 20 years they can repurpose them to hunt down jews or muslims, or whomever is undesirable to the fourth reich.

Re:Excellent news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43835131)

Even if a perfect fascist military dictatorship there will always be dissent among the ranks. People will still steal from each other. They will still kill each other. They will still have petty jealousy. Some will still loose their fucking minds.

There is no perfect solution. The tighter people want to tighten the grip. The more extreme and violent the resistance.

It is easy enough to just let people manage themselves. The question is. How to encourage them to sort out their issues.

Drones, surveillance, military, and police are poor options.

Just ban spray paint (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43835019)

Hey, it makes about as much sense.

"Reducing graffiti" is just a ruse to get people to accept it. In no time it will just be used for general surveillance.

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