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Apple Leaves Journalists Jonesing

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the irony-noted dept.

The Media 277

Hodejo1 writes "Apple traditionally has big product announcements in the early spring, so around February both the mainstream press and the tech blogs began to circulate their favorite rumors (the iWatch, iTV). They also announced the date of the next Apple event, which this year was in March — except it didn't happen. 'Reliable sources' then confirmed it would be in April, then May and then — nothing. In withdrawal and with a notoriously secretive Apple offering no relief the tech journalists started to get cranky. The end result is a rash of petulant stories that insist Apple is desperate for new products, in trouble (with $150 billion dollars in the bank, I should be in such trouble) and in decline. The only ones desperate seem to be editors addicted to traffic-generating Apple announcements. Good news is on the horizon, though, as the Apple Worldwide Developer Conference starts June 10th." This was in evidence last night, as Apple CEO Tim Cook spoke to the press at the All Things D conference. Cook's statements were mostly the sort of vague, grandiose talk that gets fed to investors on an earnings call, but it's generating article after article because, hey, it's Tim Cook.

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Who cares? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43848941)

^ that is all

Re:Who cares? (4, Interesting)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849067)

I'm a Mac fan, and I think the iPhone is all right. I'm not an Apple hater.

That said, I completely agree. We are now reporting about non-news as news?

Re:Who cares? (5, Interesting)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849087)

It's sort of like having a small child or a puppy. It's when everything is quiet that you start to wonder what they're up to.

Re:Who cares? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849153)

with a bit of luck, either the small child or the puppy has died

Re:Who cares? (5, Funny)

Vanderhoth (1582661) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849279)

or more likely they're throwing all the toilet paper they can find in the toilet and pulling the flusher repeatedly flooding your bathroom and making a huge mess that someone is going to have to clean up. They may also be starting a fire.

Re:Who cares? (5, Funny)

shadowrat (1069614) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849351)

What kind of dogs did you have?

Re:Who cares? (4, Funny)

Vanderhoth (1582661) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849469)

Shih Tzu, why do you think it was playing in the toilet?

Re:Who cares? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849391)

"The end result is a rash of petulant stories that insist Apple is desperate for new products, in trouble (with $150 billion dollars in the bank,"

It's sort of like having a small child or a puppy.

A small child or puppy with $150 billion of other people's money. And someday governments around the world will grow enough balls to take it back.

"I'd call on Apple Australia to either correct the record or provide further detail as to the way it actually prices its products for Australian consumers," Husic told the House of Representatives.

Husic said people may have "raised an eyebrow" at reports that Apple generated $6bn in revenue in Australia but "paid only $40m in tax – apparently because it racked up $5.5bn in costs", but "their eyes would've popped out" at the US revelations Apple had set up an offshore subsidiary that earned $30bn income but had apparently paid no tax to any government for five years."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/28/australian-companies-forced-disclose-tax [guardian.co.uk]

Re:Who cares? (5, Insightful)

shmlco (594907) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849657)

"A small child or puppy with $150 billion of other people's money. And someday governments around the world will grow enough balls to take it back."

People gave them money in exchange for a product. That's called business.

As to "growing enough balls", get real. We have corporations that make billions in profits quarterly, pay little to no taxes on them, and then the government turns around and hands them billions more in subsidies and tax breaks. And yes, I'm talking about you, Exxon.

Re:Who cares? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849669)

A small child or puppy with $150 billion of other people's money.

Sorry, did Apple break into peoples' houses and force them to buy iPads and iPhones and Macs at the point of a gun? Because I'm pretty sure they didn't.

That 150 billion is Apple's - they earned it, it's not "someone else's" money - unless you can prove that they have failed to pay the taxes required of them by law, in which case SOME PORTION of that money certainly belongs to the governments to which taxes are owed.

If Apple has satisfied their legal obligations under the current tax laws, then that money is NOBODY but APPLE's. If the governments want them to pay more money, then the governments should pass some new fucking tax laws, instead of whining about how Apple didn't say "Hey, we only owe $6 billion, but you know what, let's just round that up to $100 billion, and here's a check."

Your expectations and wishes do not constitute a legal obligation on other people. If you want to compel Apple to pay more, by all means - go for it. I'd even agree that they should be paying more in taxes than they are currently. But don't for a second think you're doing anything but whining like a bitch by complaining that they "ONLY" paid what they're "OBLIGATED" to pay.

Oh god, you thick cunts make me lose my mind. And I'm not even an Apple user. This "you didn't pay more than you're obligated to, therefore you're evil" rhetoric is just so retarded it defies comprehension.

Re:Who cares? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849759)

Did you get the bit where they lied to the inquiry?

Re:Who cares? (1)

lxs (131946) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849401)

Also like a small child or puppy, the average owner will spam everybody else with updates and pictures until they are sick of it.

Re:Who cares? (0, Troll)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849213)

Apple used to be a lot more reticent regarding future products. The fact that Mr. Cook is talking/hinting about future products is confirmation that Apple knows its best days are behind it. Mr. Cook is trying, unsuccessfully it appears, to regenerate the buzz around Apple.

Re:Who cares? (4, Funny)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849435)

Apple used to be a lot more reticent regarding future products. The fact that Mr. Cook is talking/hinting about future products is confirmation that Apple knows its best days are behind it. Mr. Cook is trying, unsuccessfully it appears, to regenerate the buzz around Apple.

Yeah, maybe it's time to shut Apple down and give the money back to the shareholders. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Who cares? (1, Insightful)

sycodon (149926) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849307)

Apple is now Just Another Tech Company run by MBAs and Marketing jackwads.

If Steve were here, he would tear the entire iTunes team a new asshole and then fire them all.

Re:Who cares? (4, Insightful)

chrish (4714) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849497)

While I agree with the first part (and hey, they can coast for a decade, so maybe they've got ample opportunity to get moving again), I don't agree with the second part.

iTunes sucked hard for many, many years while Jobs was at the helm, its awfulness isn't a feature of Tim Cook's days.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849613)

Apple is now Just Another Tech Company run by MBAs and Marketing jackwads.

If Steve were here, he would tear the entire iTunes team a new asshole and then fire them all.

Oh, GOD, here come the true believers. Give it about ten years and we'll have enough conflicting tales of "if STEEEEEEVE were here" that we'll have a religious schism and then the world's most hipster holy war on our hands. Fortunately, fixies don't work well as makeshift APVs and you can't make an offensive strategy out of thick-rimmed glasses and Etsy trinkets, so in the end, nobody will care.

Re:Who cares? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849073)

Agreed.

Since when is media hype to get all of the trendy tech journalists salivating "stuff that matters"?

Slashdot is becoming ever the shill site since dice took over.

Re:Who cares? (2)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849683)

"Slashdot is becoming ever the shill site since took over"

Surely that's just the universal, elitist meme talking, like no-one who's here now is as cool as the original crowd, etc.?

Well sorry for not being cool enough. Blame the Roman Catholic Comprehensive school I went to.

The reality distortion field is waning. (-1, Flamebait)

postbigbang (761081) | about a year and a half ago | (#43848943)

Tim Cook seems to be trying hard to lead the juggernaut that Jobs et al built. That the press has nothing to rumor and fuss over is a big wah wah wah to me. I'm tired about reading about the next quarter mm that will be shaved from (fill in this blank) or how the next (trick little ARM CPU) will shave another half femtowatt from the next (iPad, iPhone, iWidget).

That the press is depressed is an alarm point: they need to focus on what's hot and new and important.

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (5, Funny)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849025)

Hey, *you* try taking over a cult sometime, buddy! You hand people their Kool-Aid and all they can do is complain that Ascended Father would have sweetened it more.

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (0, Troll)

lexsird (1208192) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849135)

If only that was literal and not figurative concerning Apple, their derpy fans, and a few semi truck loads of rat poison.

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849173)

Have you ever been to an Apple conference? Fans would not only drink the iKool-Aid, they would be lining up around the block to PAY to drink the iKool-Aid.

Well, in Steve Jobs' day anyway.

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (-1, Troll)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849461)

If only that was literal and not figurative concerning Apple, their derpy fans, and a few semi truck loads of rat poison.

You are I hope aware that men with guns forced Jim Jones to drink the kool-aid. But nobody forced Steve Jobs to be a dick.

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (1)

Arashi256 (1804688) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849591)

Jim Jones wasn't forced to drink the kool aid. He didn't drink any of it - he got one of his henchmen to shoot him instead because he was a psychopathic pussy when it came down to it.

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849665)

The henchmen also didn't drink the kool-aid. Whose henchmen were they? You still think they were his?

Re:The reality distortion field is waning. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849597)

Jim Jones didn't drink the Flavor-Aid and he wasn't forced to do anything. He died of a gunshot wound, which he either inflicted or ordered inflicted. The rest of them, they drank the stuff at his urging; there is an audiotape.

journalism (4, Insightful)

Tom (822) | about a year and a half ago | (#43848955)

A good example to watch.

A successful company, ahead of its markets, does not need a new product every 6 months.
Journalists, on the other hand, do need news.

Re:journalism (4, Insightful)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43848995)

It does when "Buy The iDevice++" is their business model. There's a lot of 3 to 5 year old iDevices out there that are still perfectly suited to what their owners actually need, but Apple has made a metric fuckton of money by convincing people to upgrade every year even if they don't need any of the new features. At it's heart, Apple has become a marketing company that happens to also sell what they market. Without that marketing power, iDevices would have all the popularity of the Zune.

Re:journalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849041)

It does when "Buy The iDevice++" is their business model. There's a lot of 3 to 5 year old iDevices out there that are still perfectly suited to what their owners actually need, but Apple has made a metric fuckton of money by convincing people to upgrade every year even if they don't need any of the new features. At it's heart, Apple has become a marketing company that happens to also sell what they market. Without that marketing power, iDevices would have all the popularity of the Zune.

One cannot speak to the Apple explosive growth without speaking directly towards the fashion statement that it makes.

As with all things fashion, trends fade. Not saying people will suddenly junk their iPhones and switch to Android, but perhaps the glimmer is starting to fade with the glamorous ownership and lifestyle of iDevices.

Then again, all one has to do is put one in the hands of a celebrity and take a few snaps, and another $20 million in revenue is generated overnight.

Re:journalism (4, Funny)

SigveK (545403) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849063)

It may have been unintentional on your part, but I like the use of "Buy The iDevice++" as opposed to "Buy The ++iDevice".

Re:journalism (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849233)

$20 million in revenue is generated overnight

They're already making more than that without celebrities.

Re:journalism (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849071)

The good news, is that their existing customers don't need to upgrade every year, because the market is still growing. I'm pretty sure that the average lifespan for an iPhone being used by it's first owner is longer than Apple's release cycle anyway, due to the 2-year contracts sold with most phones in the US.

But don't let that stand in the way of the "All of Apple's customers are brainless drones that must buy the new shiny because Apple commands it" meme.

Re:journalism (2)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849079)

The mobile phone industry was built around getting people to buy new phones every year (18 months, towards the end) for a long, long time before Apple came on the scene, and there weren't new features - needed or not - as an inducement.

Re:journalism (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849109)

I used the generic iDevice rather than the specific iPhone because they use the same model for iPods and iPads. Although iPods have pretty much faded from the spotlight now, that's what Apple began the entire iDevice trend with long before the iPhone was even a rumor, much less a product.

Re:journalism (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849209)

I don't think the tablet market is sufficiently saturated that they're selling iPads primarily to people that already own one, yet. (You may be interested in this piece [asymco.com] , which shows through stats just how saturated the iPhone market is, though.)

Re:journalism (5, Informative)

MrMickS (568778) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849313)

It does when "Buy The iDevice++" is their business model. There's a lot of 3 to 5 year old iDevices out there that are still perfectly suited to what their owners actually need, but Apple has made a metric fuckton of money by convincing people to upgrade every year even if they don't need any of the new features. At it's heart, Apple has become a marketing company that happens to also sell what they market. Without that marketing power, iDevices would have all the popularity of the Zune.

I think that you are completely and utterly wrong on how Apple views their customers. You are listening to too many rabid fanbois and reading too many awesome tech journals.

Looking at phones in particular: before the iPhone came along software upgrades, though possible, were generally a pain. This was further complicated by carrier software versions preventing manufacturer updates being applied. In general you bought a phone and the software was fixed. Apple continue to support older versions of phones with new software releases with as much feature parity as won't impact the experience. Their aim is to keep their customers happy so that when they come to replace their device they will buy it from them. The philosophy is to build the best that they can and build customer loyalty.

I've had two iPhones, a 3G and a 4S. The 4S is still good enough for pretty much whatever I want to do so I can't see me upgrading this year unless the next phone does something magical. When I come to replace I'll buy another iPhone. Why? Because it does the job I want it to.

Re:journalism (2, Insightful)

shadowrat (1069614) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849389)

While device buying is profitable for apple, i don't think their model entirely revolves around getting you to buy the next device. It's more about digital purchases and locking you into their ecosystem. They are perfectly happy for you to keep your 3 year old device as long as you continue to use their cloud storage, buy mp3s on itunes, and get every new angry birds.

Re:journalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849179)

Then apple better get on the ball, since it is not ahead of its markets and has not had anything but a rehash in quite a while.

There is lots of real news in the world (-1, Flamebait)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | about a year and a half ago | (#43848957)

You fucking overprivileged lamebrained dickwads who don't know shit about anything! Fuck off and choke on an appleseed!

Re:There is lots of real news in the world (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849193)

You really shouldn't hide your feelings. Let your emotions flow, don't hold back.

Re:There is lots of real news in the world (1)

Samurai Tony (1202095) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849411)

Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

famous for being famous (4, Insightful)

shortscruffydave (638529) | about a year and a half ago | (#43848961)

Apple seems to be more about the rumours and the stories about their products nowadays, more so than being about their product innovations. Makes me think of 'C' list celebrities, who are really famous for being famous rather than for anything substantive that they might actually do

Re:famous for being famous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849033)

Or like everyone else is saying, they're not releasing any news about anything and having news editors make rumours and gossip to keep their readership levels.

Re:famous for being famous (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849137)

You read an article which is entirely composed of speculation about Apple's future product roadmap, and you come away with the conclusion that Apple's fame isn't about its products?

Re:famous for being famous (1)

cdrudge (68377) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849159)

If you're referring to this /. artcile, I read an article speculating about journalists speculating about what Apple might possibly do sometime. Maybe.

Re:famous for being famous (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849229)

Yes, but it's demonstrably an interest in Apple's actual products, and not just fame-for-fame's-sake. There's a difference between rampant speculation about the new Star Wars film (because people really care about Star Wars, the end product) and rampant speculation about Harrison Ford's personal life (because fame).

Re:famous for being famous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849501)

On Slashdot?

It's a paid product promotion, no different than a TV advert.

Re:famous for being famous (1)

shortscruffydave (638529) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849167)

where are the new products now? where is the innovation now? where is the creative vision now?

Re:famous for being famous (2)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849335)

Being announced in the September and Holiday press events, like they were last year?

Re:famous for being famous (1)

sootman (158191) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849315)

Sure, they created the iPod, then the iTunes music store, then the iPhone, then the app store, then the iPad... but what have they done lately? They should be introducing breakthrough products at least annually, right? And that time they had the most profitable quarter of any company in history... that was, like, over a year ago! Stick a fork in'em -- they're done.

Guess what folks -- Apple is going to continue to do nothing... right up until the day they do something.

Re:famous for being famous (0)

firex726 (1188453) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849713)

iPod -> generic MP3 players, Creative, Rio, and DIamond were "popular".

iTunes music store -> There were websites dedicated to digital sales; MP3.com predated iTunes by about 4 years.

iPhone -> I present to you the Motorola ROKR; and Ericsson R380.

app store -> not sure how this is innovative, they sold digital download software, Steam was out in 2003.

iPad -> Lots of touchscreen tablets existed before the iPad.

What's Apple Famous for Again? (5, Insightful)

neoshroom (324937) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849329)

What's Apple famous for again? Yup, they are famous for being famous.

Well that and popularizing the graphic user interface everyone uses in the first place [wikipedia.org] .

And for having a pretty decent Unix-based operating system [stackexchange.com] while Ballmer drives Microsoft off a cliff [forbes.com] .

And for designing the first mp3 player that the mass-market embraced [mashable.com] .

And for ushering in the change from feature-phones to smartphones [bgr.com] .

And for creating an earthquake in the tablet market such that in the future it is predicted more tablets will sell than PCs [macrumors.com] .

But yeah...they are just famous for being famous...

...Until they release a TV with a kinect-like interface running iOS. And then Sony's PS4 and the Wii U crashes and burns, (which is sort of already happening...sales on the Wii U are very poor [geek.com] and Sony's electronics wing isn't doing well either [nytimes.com] ), while everyone is playing Angry Birds on their new Apple TV platform and we get umpteen-million articles about the "New Console Wars," which are now between Microsoft and Apple.

Of course then a couple years will go by and people will forget all of history and again claim that Apple is just famous for being famous. Such is the cycle of Slashdot.

Re:famous for being famous (2)

nine-times (778537) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849511)

Apple seems to be more about the rumours and the stories about their products nowadays...

I sense you must not be familiar with the Mac community. Rumors are the norm.

You can spin that to be a bad thing, saying, "They have rumors because there's nothing of substance." You could spin it to be a positive, saying, "The market is so excited about Apple's products that they engage in wild speculation." Regardless, the Mac rumor mill has been spinning for decades, and this is not something that has emerged "nowadays".

Re:famous for being famous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849621)

They completely revolutionized the computing industry 5 times ( Apple II, Mac, iMac, and iPhone, and iPad )
and you're annoyed that in the last 5 years or so they've coasted a bit?
I think you're expecting too much.

Tell me any other company that has impacted the industry so much...
Microsoft has done it 3 times: DOS, Windows and Xbox
Sony has done it once with Vaio
Google... you could argue 3 times ... Gmail/Calendar, Maps, and Android
but that's stretching it. ( if you're that generous, then Apple should get credit for Quicktime and Final Cut too, both of which revolutionized their respective niches )

Re:famous for being famous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849745)

"Sure, you mainstreamed the portable MP3 player 10 years ago, and brought a desktop Unix to the mass market. Sure you upended the smartphone industry 5 years ago. Sure, you popularized tablets 3 years back. But what the fuck have you done for me LATELY, Apple, other than constantly iterate on and improve those product categories?

Seriously. Stop resting on your laurels, and be innovative like Google, who has produced exactly ONE real revenue stream that it keeps iterating on for its entire existence: advertising."

Because everybody knows that product innovations are easy, and should take no more than 6 months from concept to development.

Right? RIGHT?!

Just a rumor (2)

puddingebola (2036796) | about a year and a half ago | (#43848977)

Just a rumor, but I heard it's the iBlender, which will revolutionize kitchen appliance. But will it blend itself?

Re:Just a rumor (4, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849013)

Not only will it blend* the most hipster smoothie you have ever tasted, but the sleek iBlender can also play music** and videos***, make phones calls****, get you lost in your travels***** and more!

*Blades sold separately in the iTunes store.
**Requires iTunes
***Requires AppleControl iMplants
****Requires monthly tithing
*****Feature, not a bug. Just ask our lawyers.

Apple is in trouble (1, Interesting)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849009)

Apple doesn't seem to have any new products on the horizon this year and the last lot were already a generation behind their competitors in many areas. For example Samsung just released the GS4, but Apple hasn't even been able to hint at a 5S. Hipsters getting new phones don't want last year's model. Apple is all about features.

They also have a problem with patents, as in they don't have any good ones. There are some design patents that everyone else is either invalidating or working around, but nothing like the tech patents that their competitors have. In the past Apple has just ignored them and tried to tie everyone up in litigation to avoid paying, but things are coming to a head now. It was never a sustainable strategy.

Having money in the bank isn't that helpful if you lose market share. At best you can throw it into advertising, but ultimately you need new products and it appears that Apple's R&D is coming up short right now. Even the last gen products were pretty much more of the same, lacking features that they could have implemented like NFC but appeared to forgo to shave an extra 0.5mm off the thickness.

Then there is iOS. They painted themselves into a corner on that. They can't easily introduce real multitasking, can't break away from iTunes or support standard protocols like MTP. They are stuck with a bunch of odd resolutions and encouraged developers to target them all directly, resulting in debacles like the black bars when they went widescreen. On top of all that they are having to poor time and money into Apple Maps just to bring it back up to where Google Maps was before they ditched it, and in the mean time Google is steaming ahead.

Obviously Apple won't go bankrupt any time soon but it seems clear that they do have some serious issues at the moment.

Re:Apple is in trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849065)

Having money in the bank isn't that helpful if you lose market share.

Well, if having market share is your goal, then sure, losing market share isn't helpful. But in pretty much any other case, having money in the bank is great. If they could shutter their doors and just pay salary for 100 years, and still employ just as many people, for example, then in terms of number of people employed, by definition, they are doing fine.

Re:Apple is in trouble (2)

moronoxyd (1000371) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849143)

Tell that to Apple's shareholders.
They don't care much about the money in the bank, but about the new money to be made.

Re:Apple is in trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849625)

I'm a shareholder, I care about -everything-. Thanks. :)

Re:Apple is in trouble (2)

Xest (935314) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849145)

Except they can't get to a lot of that money because it's held offshore and if they bring it onshore they'll lose an awful lot of it in taxes.

What use is the $102bn they hold offshore if they refuse to bring whatever is left of it post-tax into the US when there's little of value that makes sense to invest in in the countries they're holding said money?

Unless they plan on moving their HQ and all their talent to Ireland and such or just accept the tax deduction and bring it into the US (or another country) then it's completely useless. There's nothing in Ireland worth spending $46bn on that will also allow them to recoup the cost.

Re:Apple is in trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849221)

Except they can't get to a lot of that money because it's held offshore and if they bring it onshore they'll lose an awful lot of it in taxes.

They can't, because if they do then...? If you see this sentence structure, then it's not a time where you're allowed to use "can't" -- go back and try again, do not collect $200.

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

Xest (935314) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849327)

If you couldn't interpret the meaning of my post then I'm not going to rephrase it for you as it means you're obviously too mentally inept to understand anything much.

Re:Apple is in trouble (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849083)

Dear AmiMoJo, your check is in the mail. Sincerely, Samsung.

Re:Apple is in trouble (2)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849101)

They are stuck with a bunch of odd resolutions and encouraged developers to target them all directly, resulting in debacles like the black bars when they went widescreen.

I have to kind of chuckle because, well, Android...

Re:Apple is in trouble (3, Insightful)

Xest (935314) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849127)

Android was designed with the potential for arbitrary screen resolutions from the outset, in contrast Apple pretended fragmentation was an Android problem rather than accept the reality that fragmentation is a necessary fact of progress (because for progress to occur, hardware has to change).

The net result is that with iOS you often end up with programs where they either just zoom in and create a pixelated wreck of your lovely retina display, or they just use up an absolutely tiny fraction of your total screen space.

That's what he's referring to, Apple's complete lack of foresight and the horrible mess it leads to if developers don't update their app each time Apple has a screen change.

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849299)

I can't say that it's been an issue in practice on either platform. Most iOS apps are either at the native resolution (I can't recall the last time I used an app that wasn't Retina) or a simple 2x upscale which looks nigh-identical to running on the lower-res hardware. Meanwhile Android devices have converged on the small subset of screen resolutions and sizes that are available at high volume from panel fabricators, such that developers only have to target a handful of specifications.

Phone apps run on tablets (and vice versa) are just awful on both.

Re:Apple is in trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849323)

Well, you see, the problem you mention happens on Android too despite the frameworks allowing for different resolution screens. This feature is useless if the Android programmers don't use it and test their layouts. The sad truth is that both for iOS/Android developers have time constraints (what, no infinite time to fix all bugs?) and just decide what resolutions to support properly, the rest is a mess.

It's no surprise that iOS developers who supported universal binaries for both iphone/ipad worked without problems in iPhone 5 taller screen while others who had specific layouts for each model screwed up big time because they used pixel perfect positioning.

Yeah, Apple is at fault.

Re:Apple is in trouble (2)

Xest (935314) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849451)

Yeah, I think fundamentally the problem is that Android always made it clear hardware was going to be different between devices, whilst Apple spent a few iterations pretending you could just write for the first few iterations with very few differences, until you couldn't.

Effectively many early Android apps were built to work with different resolutions, iOS apps weren't and so it meant Apple had this scenario where they had a whole app store full of apps not built to support anything other than 320x480 then all of a sudden along comes the iPad and the iPhone 4 and the app store is full of apps not designed for their respective resolutions resulting in the massively letter boxed/tap to double size hack for those apps that didn't get updated.

I agree this doesn't preclude the fact that bad developers can still fuck up on any platform of course though as you quite rightly point out, but ultimately Apple should have been honest with themselves (and with developers) from the outset - that they weren't going to stick at 320x480 forever. Had they done this there would be no need for said aforementioned ugly hack.

Re:Apple is in trouble (2)

StormCrow (10254) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849623)

There was no technical reason why the iPad couldn't have just zoomed iPhone apps to near-fullscreen automatically. The reason it doesn't is that Apple wanted to encourage people to think about how to use the extra resolution rather than just expand the screen. The result is that you get a lot of iPad apps that take advantage of the extra room on a tablet vs. a phone, compared to many Android "tablet" apps that are just blown up versions of the phone interface.

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

Xest (935314) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849691)

I've never really seen any qualitative difference between Android and iOS tablet apps in recent years though I agree Android had a lack of tablet oriented apps prior to Android 4 so I'm not really sure it makes any difference.

It is however still just an ugly hack that persists to this day with some apps and as Android tablet app quality has improved (along with Android itself) it's become a glaring scar on iOS.

It's also of little benefit to the user, the user doesn't care what the app developer may or may not do, they just don't expect their shiny new tablet to have such an ugly hack. This is a company whose products are supposed to "just work" and it runs completely counter to that ideology.

Re:Apple is in trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849337)

an absolutely tiny fraction

I don't think that means what you think that means.

Re:Apple is in trouble (4, Informative)

moronoxyd (1000371) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849187)

They are stuck with a bunch of odd resolutions and encouraged developers to target them all directly, resulting in debacles like the black bars when they went widescreen.

I have to kind of chuckle because, well, Android...

You didn't really read gp's post, right?

Google told the Android developers a long time ago that they should prepare their apps for a variety of resolutions and DPIs.

Apple on the other hand told their developers that they can expect fixed resolutions, and are now struggeling with the fact that they have different resolutions, different DPIs and different aspect ratios.

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849319)

They are stuck with a bunch of odd resolutions and encouraged developers to target them all directly, resulting in debacles like the black bars when they went widescreen.

I have to kind of chuckle because, well, Android...

You didn't really read gp's post, right?

Google told the Android developers a long time ago that they should prepare their apps for a variety of resolutions and DPIs.

Apple on the other hand told their developers that they can expect fixed resolutions, and are now struggeling with the fact that they have different resolutions, different DPIs and different aspect ratios.

Never mind that they decided their flagship (only) mid-size tablet was going to mimic the screen of the old-ass iPad, low resolution, low DPI, and 4x3 aspect ratio. If the iPad Mini had a better display it would have crushed every tablet competitor, much the same way the "new iPad" did when it was released. But heavens! We can't expect our 20 million app developers to have to wrap their head around one new set of dimensions! Better to just let them re-use code designed for a larger display, and get back to cashing app store checks.

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

shadowrat (1069614) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849429)

as long most of their time is spent cashing app store checks, what incentive is there to change?

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849741)

Google told the Android developers a long time ago that they should prepare their apps for a variety of resolutions and DPIs.

They may have "told them", but they didn't get the memo. Android works great when you have one of the most popular devices. Otherwise, you get lots of weird rendered screens, games that "work" on the phone, but really need a tablet-sized screen to work the controls, odd placement as stuff tries to orient itself on an untested screen size, apps that flat-out won't work with your device, etc.

I have an android phone and an android tablet, and I generally like them very much. That said, my mom's iPad is a smoother experience. Even my old iPhone was a smoother - if slower - experience. Maybe the newest contenders (Windows and RIM) have a smoother experience than Apple, but I haven't tried those platforms yet.

Re:Apple is in trouble (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849141)

Serious question, how often do people use NFC? I haven't witnessed anyone walking around touching phones and making use of the technology. Maybe I need to get out of Mom's basement more?

Re:Apple is in trouble (1)

lexsird (1208192) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849169)

Apple got a "two for one" trade in on "innovation" for "litigation" and "legislation."

Blinders... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849175)

The Samsung Galaxy S4 is an incremental upgrade over the GS3, with a bunch of bells and whistles that aren't very useful and will likely just get turned off after the novelty wears off. Honestly, what's the difference between swiping your hand over the phone, and swiping your finger across the screen?

Just because they haven't released a product on someone else's schedule doesn't mean they don't have products in the pipeline. You claim that Apple R&D is "coming up short" but have absolutely no evidence to back up that assertion, other than that they haven't announced any products yet. Apple has never felt rushed to throw a product out the door just because their competitor has, and I don't know why they would start now. As far as lacking "features" like NFC - that's a feature in itself. Everyone I know with NFC on their Android phone has turned it off due to not having a critical mass of other people with NFC (making it near-useless), or because of security concerns.

And just how do you think that a company that develops two different operating systems based on the same core can't introduce core software features? They can't support a standard protocol, because... why? They could put that in tomorrow if they wanted to. They could add "real multitasking" quite easily, as the core OS already does that - ask any jailbreaker that can ssh into their phone while it's playing a YouTube video. Apple just feels that most people prefer battery time with a clever faux-multitasking trick. Sure, some hard core users don't like it, but 90% of the market could give a shit.

The press needs them more than they need the press (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849015)

Apple products sell whether they get press or not.

And Now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849103)

And now it's generating a non-article on Slashdot.

Alanis. Ironic. This.

Fanbois don't want to face the truth (0, Flamebait)

MikeRT (947531) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849113)

Apple's products are now just very expensive toys built for an economy that has gone away. The days of a $500-$800 media consumption device aka the iPad are numbered. At the rate the global economy is deterioriating products like the MacBook Pro with Retina Display which is a $3000 boondoggle of barely fixable badness will be considered a sign of mental degradation or material excess.

My next upgrade cycle, after having been with OS X since 10.0 and iOS since the iPhone 3G is looking increasingly like a $500-$1000 PC laptop with Haswell, Linux, a BlackBerry Z10 (or its successor) which has a replaceable battery and a XBox One and Wii U for gaming. All of that together, cheaper and just as good as a midrange MacBook Pro.

Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth (2, Informative)

nblender (741424) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849349)

You're an idiot. The most expensive MBP w/Retina display is $2799.. I'm sure you could make it $3000 if you added a bunch of options... Certainly not "mid-range". The cheapest MBP w/Retina display is $1199; just slightly more than your $500-$1000 PC laptop... At the local clearance outlet, I see a similarly configured ASUS, on special, for $699, limit 2 per customer, while supplies last...

Sure, you can make any point if you're willing to outright lie...

Not a fanboi; I'm largely indifferent about Apple and I hack linux kernels for a living..

Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849533)

mod parent up! so sick of misquotes for macbooks

--sent from my HP EliteBook

Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849729)

Your 1200 dollar MBP has a 13 inch screen, 2.5ghz i5, shitty intel onboard graphics, and a 500gb 5400 rpm drive.

That's comparable to the 300 dollar Acers they sell at walmart.

The cheapest MBP with a (broken, ghosty, shitty) retina display is 1500 bucks, I cant imagine how horrible it must be driving that display on a HD 4000.

You're into 2000+ if you want any sort of video performance, and 2800 bucks after tax would be well over 3000.

You're comparing shitty apple products to high end PC laptops, and it's stupid. You are very much a fanboi.

Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849771)

And you never hacked a fucking kernel in your life, you silly poseur.

"cd /src/linux && make && make install" isn't hacking.

Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849393)

No no no! You are not commenting how you are supposed to! You only say nice things about Apple, and you find every possible opportunity to hate Microsoft. That's how it WORKS.

Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849465)

As unfixable as they may be, some of that design is at the behest of not breaking in the first place.

On the bright side, (1)

dtmancom (925636) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849185)

They are saving a fortune on taxes.

The "All Things D" conference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849269)

You really must love the D to go to that conference.

(I'll see myself out.)

Jonesing? (3, Funny)

rossdee (243626) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849293)

WTF is Jonesing ?

Are they drinking poisoned cool ade? (Rev Lim Jones)
Speaking in a deep voice? (James Earl Jones)
Singing Tenor (Tom Jones)

I'll admit I wasn't born in the USA, but English (English) has been my main language for over 50 years

Re:Jonesing? (4, Insightful)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849361)

When faced with a new word it is often prudent to attempt to deduce its meaning from context. Given that the article is about journalists "in withdrawal" and "cranky" due to a lack of new Apple news, what do you think that "Jonesing" could mean?

Re:Jonesing? (1)

Xest (935314) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849483)

I think it's a twist on the saying "Keeping up with the Joneses" which basically means trying to compete with the neighbours in the context of a middle-class suburban class war, i.e. "Mr Jones next door has a new Porsche, this means we'll have to get a better model!".

In other words they're saying that because Apple hasn't come up with anything newsworthy the media is having to make up stories to try and out-compete each other for views and that one paper saying "Is Apple running out of ideas?" will be followed by "Apple has run out of ideas" in another paper, which will be followed by "Apple is dying, SELL SELL SELL" in another paper, followed by "Apple is dead and has gone bankrupt and has killed all it's employees and it's the EU's fault and gay people don't deserve equal rights" in The Daily Mail.

Re:Jonesing? (2)

LDAPMAN (930041) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849733)

Err, No....http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jonesing

"Exhibiting a strong craving or desire for something eaten, imbibed, or taken as a drug. Comes from opiate culture."

Re:Jonesing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43849569)

Try this: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jones#English

Re:Jonesing? (1)

BradleyAndersen (1195415) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849695)

Sockatume is correct. It basically means something like "in withdrawal", or "in desperate need of".

Magical times (1)

Carnivore24 (467239) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849379)

Every time this man speaks a unicorn appears.

People are forgetful (1)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about a year and a half ago | (#43849769)

This is a typical Apple product cycle state.

Apple typically has a "big year" followed by nothing. Feast followed by famine.

2012 saw major and minor updates of almost every product Apple makes including new product roll-outs.

So I fully expected 2013 to be a very slow year for Apple announcements and full of wild speculation and rumor mongering about what they are planning next. This has been a trend for Apple for almost 15 years since they rolled out the first iMac that iconized their iProducts into stuff people actually wanted.

But people seem to forget history even when it was only a few years old.

Also, I still can't understand how people believe Tim Cook is relevant. He orchestrated a disaster that plunged Apple's stock over $300 a share. I mean, most CEO's do not even have the luxury of having a stock reach a value of $300 a share, but Cook lost this much value in under 6 months. How is he still running Apple??? He has shown lack of vision, lack of passion, and a lack of experience running Apple and people hang on his every word? Make Ives CEO at least and maybe Apple will enter an era of innovation again.

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