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Ubuntu Closes Longstanding Bug #1

timothy posted about a year ago | from the sideways-looking-statement dept.

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dargaud writes "Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu fame has closed the primal bug on Launchpad, standing since 2004 and titled 'Microsoft has a majority market share,' due to the 'changing realities' of tablets, smartphones, and wearable computing."

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Let me be the First (-1, Offtopic)

NEDHead (1651195) | about a year ago | (#43862453)

to say I have no idea what this is about, nor do I care

Re:Let me be the First (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862521)

You'll be far from the first, you'll just be the first in this thread.

Re:Let me be the First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862685)

That's nice. What would have been better is if you had kept it to yourself.

Re:Let me be the First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862705)

I don't care about your response so much that I'm going to post this comment to let you know!

Re:Let me be the First (4, Funny)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#43862783)

I would care. But I'm a long-time Linux supporter, which means I only care about my distro of choice.

Re:Let me be the First (1, Troll)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | about a year ago | (#43862819)

How is it that on slashdot, an admission of ignorance AND intellectual apathy is "insightful".

You might not be hip to ubuntu culture, thats fine. But don't celebrate it.

Re:Let me be the First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863191)

let me just say...

FUUUUUCK YOU!

Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like

Let me be the second (5, Funny)

Zeroblitzt (871307) | about a year ago | (#43862463)

to say, damn you Mark Shuttleworth, now we have to worry about actual code related bugs.

the 80s are back (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863035)

Microsoft + IBM and then cheap Compaq clones were a natural reaction to the closed nature of the computer market pushed by the likes of Apple in the 80s. The closed software was a problem of the PC, with the expectation that it would be replaced with either Linux or some other laxly licensed, source and support available OS.

And now we're supposed to celebrate we're back in the 80, only that instead of Amstad, Amiga, Apple, IBM, Sinclair, Attari, ... etc. all we have now is Google and Apple.

This is a compatibility issue (5, Insightful)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#43862477)

I think Microsoft fixed this bug by creating a compatibility issue that prevents its OS from functioning on devices that people actually like to use.

Re:This is a compatibility issue (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862527)

I wouldn't call Windows not functioning properly on PC's a compatibility issue.

Re:This is a compatibility issue (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year ago | (#43862583)

More people use something other than a PC.

That's kind of the whole point of this little bit of hair splitting.

Re:This is a compatibility issue (1)

jalopezp (2622345) | about a year ago | (#43863039)

Not when they're using Ubuntu.

Closed as WONTFIX (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862485)

since the last moves of Ubuntu seem to indicate 'refile for Android' as a solution?

Trollololol (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862487)

Ubuntu -> Microsoft

Ubuntu? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862493)

Ubuntu? Could the editors at least provide a link or a short explanation in the summary about what exactly "Ubuntu" is? I've never heard of it, and I think many others here haven't either.

Re:Ubuntu? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862621)

It's a self-righteous organization proclaiming that they're more ethical and free than evil corporate computing empires, while at the same time lead by a moronic billionaire who wants to be as cool and smart as Steve Jobs, but continuously throws tantrums when no one takes him seriously because he is not actually Steve Jobs.

Re:Ubuntu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863359)

When the hell was Jobs ever cool or smart?

Re:Ubuntu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863529)

I suspect he made way more money (demonstrating "smart") and had way more religious followers (demonstrating "cool") than you.

Re:Ubuntu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862633)

Here is a good link to it. And just because you've never heard of it, don't assume many people on a nerd related news site hasn't either. There is usually one or two posts a week about ubuntu here.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu

Re:Ubuntu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862787)

Swing and a miss...

Microsoft has a majority market share (-1, Redundant)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about a year ago | (#43862531)

Not in my house it doesn't.
1 Win 7 laptop
1 MacBook Pro
1 Chrome Book
3 Raspberry PIs running Raspbian
1 Android tablet
1 Android phone
1 blackberry playbook
1 Apple TV

Looks like Linux wins, with Android a close second.
The best part is that this is all for one person living alone. :)

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862585)

Android is Linux, dufus

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862607)

It's "doofus", doofus.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862717)

Don't you mean GNU/Doofus?

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (5, Funny)

SteveFoerster (136027) | about a year ago | (#43862781)

Both of you are doofi.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (2)

msobkow (48369) | about a year ago | (#43862965)

I believe it's spelled "doofie". :P

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862997)

It's "doofodes".

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862687)

Android is Linux, dufus

If by the core definition Linux = kernel, then yes, it is a customized variant. If you by Linux means the full OS, what the purist would call GNU/Linux, then, no, not really... You could just as well claim that Android is Java.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year ago | (#43862731)

If Android is Java and Android is Linux, then Linux must be Java.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863071)

An apple is red and a rose is red, then an apple must be a rose.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about a year ago | (#43863347)

An apple is red and a rose is red, then an apple must be a rose.

roses have thorns blackberries have thorns :. apples are blackberries

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (5, Informative)

MLBs (2637825) | about a year ago | (#43862627)

Not in my house it doesn't. 1 Win 7 laptop 1 MacBook Pro 1 Chrome Book 3 Raspberry PIs running Raspbian 1 Android tablet 1 Android phone 1 blackberry playbook 1 Apple TV Looks like Linux wins, with Android a close second. The best part is that this is all for one person living alone. :)

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but it seems that they're saying that in 2004, MS had a majority, but this is now changing and thus the bug can be closed. With your enumeration you simply give anecdotal evidence to this.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (2)

Bearhouse (1034238) | about a year ago | (#43863237)

Not in my house it doesn't.

1 Win 7 laptop

1 MacBook Pro

1 Chrome Book

3 Raspberry PIs running Raspbian

1 Android tablet

1 Android phone

1 blackberry playbook

1 Apple TV

Looks like Linux wins, with Android a close second.

The best part is that this is all for one person living alone. :)

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but it seems that they're saying that in 2004, MS had a majority, but this is now changing and thus the bug can be closed. With your enumeration you simply give anecdotal evidence to this.

"living alone"

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but massive geek points aside, sounds like OP needs to get out of the basement more...

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862683)

And this is exactly why they felt it was time to close that 'bug'.

Microsoft's control has been falling in part to households like yours. But look back to 2004 when that 'bug' was put in place, your device count would be lower and Microsoft likely had a larger percentage of the total share.

There are more devices in the household now running a wider variety of operating systems, Microsoft is no longer dominate in the typical house and plays a smaller part overall.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863061)

And this is exactly why they felt it was time to close that 'bug'.

Microsoft's control has been falling in part to households like yours. But look back to 2004 when that 'bug' was put in place, your device count would be lower and Microsoft likely had a larger percentage of the total share.

There are more devices in the household now running a wider variety of operating systems, Microsoft is no longer dominate in the typical house and plays a smaller part overall.

Not at my house. Microsoft has never had a majority share at my house.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (4, Informative)

smash (1351) | about a year ago | (#43862755)

The ratio of 650 Windows 7 boxes plus 75 Windows 2008 R2 boxes at work to 3 Unix machines tends to swing the balance in favour of Windows where I am.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (1)

SilentStaid (1474575) | about a year ago | (#43862899)

...and the ratio of the likely phones/tablets at (what I'm assuming) is a white-collar job would be similar to global market share... so add in:

400 Androids (seems high... might be less in the US, I was lazy)
130 iPhones running iOS
a handful of feature phones and a smattering of MS Phones

And you'll find your ratios balanace out *much* more than they used to.

Source:Hint: It didn't always look like this. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862933)

a ratio of 242:1, in my experience that makes sense....since it takes about 242 Windows Systems to do the work of 1 *nix system ;)

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (0, Troll)

smooth wombat (796938) | about a year ago | (#43863123)

The best part is that this is all for one person living alone. :)

No, it's either sad or pathetic (depending on ones point of view) that one person should be so tethered to technology rather than reality.

Re:Microsoft has a majority market share (2)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about a year ago | (#43863453)

And you are a judgmental asshole!
I have many interests outside technology. Technology is certainly high up on the list, but I am also a singer, outdoors man, woodworker, mechanic, pet owner, motorcycle rider, Jeep enthusiast, and too many other things to even mention. I even have a lovely girlfriend.
My interest in technology has provided me with quite a good living these past 30 years or so. As well as enough disposable income to afford plenty of toys.

New Bug Report (5, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | about a year ago | (#43862533)

New bug posted.

Android has too much market share.

Re:New Bug Report (1)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about a year ago | (#43862643)

That'll be found on Microsoft's public bug tracker. Oh, wait... they don't have one. That's a bug!

Re:New Bug Report (4, Informative)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year ago | (#43862771)

Actually, they have one.

https://connect.microsoft.com/ [microsoft.com]

Re:New Bug Report (1)

SilentStaid (1474575) | about a year ago | (#43862921)

You forgot their other Bug Reporting Tool: www.microsoft.com/en-us/kinectforwindows

It can accurately report when people are watching programs for free - which is apparently an unintended side effect of home entertainment.

Re:New Bug Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862939)

Why would that be a bug? They make more money off of Android than Win8.

Re:New Bug Report (1)

telchine (719345) | about a year ago | (#43863227)

New bug posted.

Android has too much market share.

Closed: This is a feature, not a bug.

Lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862555)

That's not a bug, it's a complaint.

Re:Lame (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year ago | (#43863001)

Aren't bug reports mostly just complaints about something not being/doing what you want it to?

Closed Platforms (5, Insightful)

Adrian Lopez (2615) | about a year ago | (#43862601)

Microsoft is losing market share to tablets and smartphones, but these are shut tighter than the PC platform ever was. I'm not sure that's something to celebrate.

Re:Closed Platforms (1)

bussdriver (620565) | about a year ago | (#43862663)

There is no monopoly like microsoft and that is progress not an ideal.

Re:Closed Platforms (5, Insightful)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#43862847)

Yes the walled garden of iOS, controlled by one company absolutely and completely, is definitely progress over the open world of the PC.

Re:Closed Platforms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863079)

I was unaware that Apple had a monopoly in either tablets or phones. In fact, with Android as a platform taking ~75% of the mobile OS market, iOS isn't even really a global player in the grand scheme.

Re:Closed Platforms (3, Insightful)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#43863215)

Yeah, you can buy alternatives to iOS, just like you can (and have always been able to) buy alternatives to Windows. But one lets me install any software I want to on it. The other doesn't. And that ain't progress, brother.

Re:Closed Platforms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863101)

If it isn't, why has it gained such market share? People vote with their wallet, it's stronger than your ideology.

Re:Closed Platforms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862861)

Wait till you see what evils Apple can devise.

Re:Closed Platforms (1)

Antipater (2053064) | about a year ago | (#43862945)

The Tsar's government may have sucked royally, but I wouldn't consider what happened afterward to be "progress".

Re:Closed Platforms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862981)

At least Microsoft wasn't in the business of tracking your every action for advertising purposes.

Re:Closed Platforms (4, Interesting)

gallondr00nk (868673) | about a year ago | (#43863027)

Microsoft is losing market share to tablets and smartphones, but these are shut tighter than the PC platform ever was.

Agreed, It's essentially a Phyrric victory. We didn't get all worked up about Microsoft back in the day just because it was Microsoft, but because their monopoly threatened the open nature of the PC platform. Now we have a mobile platform with two major players, one of which is closed in a way that Microsoft could only dream of.

Re:Closed Platforms (1)

PRMan (959735) | about a year ago | (#43863091)

Android is pretty open. They let you run just about anything that can't screw up the drivers without even batting an eye (at least on Sprint they do). And rooting your phone is a simple 10-minute process. I'm not really seeing the problem.

LMFAO, seriously? (2)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about a year ago | (#43862617)

For a second I was expecting the "bug" to be some actual major bug or security issue that has existed for years. But all it is... is Microsoft's marketing dominance? I mean, I agree that their monopoly is/was a bad thing, but I find it ironic and funny that it was classified as a bug.

Re:LMFAO, seriously? (5, Insightful)

xvan (2935999) | about a year ago | (#43862991)

I mean, I agree that their monopoly is/was a bad thing, but I find it ironic and funny that it was classified as a bug.

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Wait what? (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year ago | (#43862619)

Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.

Re:Wait what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862907)

It was closed due more to the changing nature of computing being less desktop centric with the growth of phones and tablets since 2004.

In the new growth areas of tablets and phones Microsoft's market share is minimal, while they still have overall control when you combine the categories, but where the growth is they don't control, and overall their market share has eroded away a fair amount.

So Microsoft's stronghold being stagnant (or slowly eroding) and them not being very present the growth sector (despite attempts) it was felt that it was time to close that so called bug.

Re:Wait what? (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year ago | (#43863405)

Oh ok, I get it, but an equally fitting article title would've been "Ubuntu gives up on desktop market due to increasing mobile presence".

ha (4, Funny)

smash (1351) | about a year ago | (#43862677)

This [wikipedia.org]

Re:ha (0)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year ago | (#43862893)

Darn it, where are my mod points?
+1

Time to add a new bug (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862691)

..Apple has majority market mindshare

If you arbitrarily redefine the target... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862699)

If we look at "anything with an OS" did Microsoft ever have the majority of the marketshare?

Re:If you arbitrarily redefine the target... (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year ago | (#43862807)

In the case of personal computing then yes. Since personal computing is moving toward areas where Microsoft doesn't have near monopoly then they obviously don't have monopoly on the personal computing market anymore.

Moving the Goal Posts. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862703)

That's essentially what Mr. Shuttleworth has done. Typical for a South African. You see, the "market share" that was being referred to was desktop/laptop computers, not phones, tables, anything with a CPU or chip of RAM. The ironic part is that among phones and tables, Canonical is dead last and their share of Linux PCs continues to fall as people move onto better distros like Mint. (Yes, I know that's derived from Ubuntu).

Re:Moving the Goal Posts. (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year ago | (#43863087)

To be fair, many people use a phone or tablet as their primary computing device in 2013, which wasn't the case in 2004. So if he's moving the goal posts, it's only to put them in a more relevant place. Also, I have seen very few tables running Linux, most tables are just solid wood or metal.

Bug #1 (2)

Tyler R. (2787023) | about a year ago | (#43862727)

Personally, I don't think this bug is fixed yet. Desktop Linux still lingers around 1% market share, and while Android, OEM involvement and new AAA software titles, I think we still have a long way to go. Oh, well. Debian fanboy's 2 cents.

Re:Bug #1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862833)

Desktop is for the past. Tablet is the future. Future of Linux is Android. Embrace it or extinguish!

Re:Bug #1 (1)

Tyler R. (2787023) | about a year ago | (#43862951)

But does your tablet play Crysis 3? What about Metro: Last Light?

Re:Bug #1 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863073)

Yeaaahhh....

Call me back once tablets actually become suited to do useful stuff like, coding, writing, designing, and gaming. (No, most mobile games do not count, I'll get a handheld with actually decent games for that if I wanted to)

I have a Nexus 7 tablet and the only thing I use it for is reading r/gamedev when I'm forced to spend time with my family.

Re:Bug #1 (1)

Lennie (16154) | about a year ago | (#43862917)

Windows 8 made it even more complicated to install Linux. Not only because of UEFI but also because of Fast Boot.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM4MDY [phoronix.com]

The stupid thing is, it also makes it harder to fix Windows.

It might even make it legally very complicated to get a refund from Microsoft if you want a refund for the pre-installed software.

Re:Bug #1 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863473)

How do you get that 1%?

I've downloaded Fedora isos once, and installed it on 4 PCs in my house, plus given a copy to my brother and sister, who install it several times. How is that counted?

The only thing that is certain, is that "os marketshare" numbers mean absolutely nothing.

Bux not Fixed.... (2)

Notabadguy (961343) | about a year ago | (#43862745)

I'm not against the closing of this bug; however, the closed status should be something like "Can't Fix" [0]. While, technically speaking, Microsoft doesn't have the majority of the marketshare anymore, the originally prescribed goal of this bug was:

A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.

Note that *even if* we count Android/Linux, and also count every type of device like mobile phones and tables, nearly all of those devices -- even those running Android/Linux or Ubuntu -- include proprietary software (Many Android/Linux devices include *mostly* proprietary software, since
nearly all the applications are proprietary). Thus, it's just not accurate at this time to argue "Fix Released" for the key issue that this bug was supposed to be about: namely, "most devices in use today are running mostly proprietary software". It'll probably be generations before we close that bug, and that's why I'd
argue the problem probably can't be fixed as part of the lifecycle of Ubuntu itself. Thus "Can't Fix" is the right bug-close status.

[0] "Won't Fix" isn't right because that would presupose Ubuntu actually had the ability to fix the problem and chose not to. Sadly, I don't think it was ever really within the power of the Ubuntu project to fix the problem in the first place. Nevertheless, I thank Ubuntu for the early years (i.e., pre-UbuntuOne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375272 [launchpad.net] ) when Ubuntu truly tried to close Bug 1. It's a tough job to give software freedom to the majority of users, but we should all keep trying to do it.

Abuse of bug tracking systems (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862769)

Cute entries like that wouldn't be tolerated in some workplaces. I prefer a professional attitude in the bug tracking system. They should purge anything else similar to this that isn't an actual bug.

What is on slashdot? (-1)

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Srlazna % Erzrzore Qnejva; ohvyqvat n orggre zbhfrgenc zreryl erfhygf va fznegre zvpr. % Erfrnepu vf gb frr jung rirelobql ryfr unf frra, naq guvax jung abobql ryfr unf gubhtug. % Erfrnepu vf jung V'z qbvat jura V qba'g xabj jung V'z qbvat. -- Jreaure iba Oenha % Ebhaq Ahzoref ner nyjnlf snyfr. -- Fnzhry Wbuafba % Fnyvin pnhfrf pnapre, ohg bayl vs fjnyybjrq va fznyy nzbhagf bire n ybat crevbq bs gvzr. -- Trbetr Pneyva % Fpvrapr naq eryvtvba ner va shyy nppbeq ohg fpvrapr naq snvgu ner va pbzcyrgr qvfpbeq. % Fpvrapr vf ohvyg hc bs snpgf, nf n ubhfr vf jvgu fgbarf. Ohg n pbyyrpgvba bs snpgf vf ab zber n fpvrapr guna n urnc bs fgbarf vf n ubhfr. -- Whyrf Uraev Cbvapne'r % Fpvrapr vf jung unccraf jura cerpbaprcgvba zrrgf irevsvpngvba. % Fpvrapr znl fbzrqnl qvfpbire jung snvgu unf nyjnlf xabja. % Fpvragvfgf ner crbcyr jub ohvyq gur Oebbxyla Oevqtr naq gura ohl vg. -- Jvyyvnz Ohpxyrl % Fragvrag cynfzbvqf ner n tnf. % Fvzcyvpvgl qbrf abg cerprqr pbzcyrkvgl, ohg sbyybjf vg. % Fbyhgvbaf ner boivbhf vs bar bayl unf gur bcgvpny cbjre gb bofreir gurz bire gur ubevmba. -- X.N. Nefqnyy % Fcnpr vf gb cynpr nf rgreavgl vf gb gvzr. -- Wbfrcu Wbhoreg % Fcnpr gryyf znggre ubj gb zbir naq znggre gryyf fcnpr ubj gb pheir. -- Jurryre % Fgngvfgvpf ner ab fhofgvghgr sbe whqtrzrag. -- Urael Pynl % Fgngvfgvpf zrnaf arire univat gb fnl lbh'er pregnva. % Fgryyne enlf cebir svoovat arire cnlf. Rzormmyrzrag vf nabgure znggre. % Fhccbeg onpgrevn -- vg'f gur bayl phygher fbzr crbcyr unir! % Gnxr na nfgebanhg gb ynhapu. % Grpuabybtvpny cebterff unf zreryl cebivqrq hf jvgu zber rssvpvrag zrnaf sbe tbvat onpxjneqf. -- Nyqbhf Uhkyrl % Grpuabybtl vf qbzvangrq ol gubfr jub znantr jung gurl qb abg haqrefgnaq. % Gur nvz bs fpvrapr vf gb frrx gur fvzcyrfg rkcynangvbaf bs pbzcyrk snpgf. Frrx fvzcyvpvgl naq qvfgehfg vg. -- Juvgrurnq. % Gur nzbhag bs gvzr orgjrra fyvccvat ba gur crry naq ynaqvat ba gur cnirzrag vf cerpvfryl 1 onanabfrpbaq. % Gur nzbhag bs jrvtug na rinatryvfg pneevrf jvgu gur nyzvtugl vf zrnfherq va ovyyvtenunzf. % Gur orfg qrsrafr ntnvafg ybtvp vf vtabenapr. % Gur ovttre gur gurbel gur orggre. % Gur ovttrfg qvssrerapr orgjrra gvzr naq fcnpr vf gung lbh pna'g erhfr gvzr. -- Zreevpx Shefg % Gur obzo jvyy arire tb bss. V fcrnx nf na rkcreg va rkcybfvirf. -- Nqzveny Jvyyvnz Yrnul, H.F. Ngbzvp Obzo Cebwrpg % Gur pynfu bs vqrnf vf gur fbhaq bs serrqbz. % Gur pyrnerfg jnl vagb gur Havirefr vf guebhtu n sberfg jvyqrearff. -- Wbua Zhve % Gur qrivy svaqf jbex sbe vqyr pvephvgf gb qb. % Gur qvssrerapr orgjrra ernyvgl naq haernyvgl vf gung ernyvgl unf fb yvggyr gb erpbzzraq vg. -- Nyyna Furezna % Gur qvssrerapr orgjrra fpvrapr naq gur shmml fhowrpgf vf gung fpvrapr erdhverf ernfbavat juvyr gubfr bgure fhowrpgf zreryl erdhver fpubynefuvc. -- Eboreg Urvayrva % Gur rnegu vf yvxr n gval tenva bs fnaq, bayl zhpu, zhpu urnivre. % Gur rpbabzl qrcraqf nobhg nf zhpu ba rpbabzvfgf nf gur jrngure qbrf ba jrngure sberpnfgref. -- Wrna-Cnhy Xnhssznaa % Gur rkcynangvba erdhvevat gur srjrfg nffhzcgvbaf vf gur zbfg yvxryl gb or pbeerpg. -- Jvyyvnz bs Bppnz % Gur sbyybjvat fgngrzrag vf abg gehr. Gur cerivbhf fgngrzrag vf gehr. % Gur Sbepr vf jung ubyqf rirelguvat gbtrgure. Vg unf vgf qnex fvqr, naq vg unf vgf yvtug fvqr. Vg'f fbeg bs yvxr pbfzvp qhpg gncr. % "Gur sbhe ohvyqvat oybpxf bs gur havirefr ner sver, jngre, teniry naq ivaly." -- Qnir Oneel % Gur shapgvba bs gur rkcreg vf abg gb or zber evtug guna bgure crbcyr, ohg gb or jebat sbe zber fbcuvfgvpngrq ernfbaf. -- Qe. Qnivq Ohgyre, Oevgvfu cfrcubybtvfg % Gur trarengvba bs enaqbz ahzoref vf gbb vzcbegnag gb or yrsg gb punapr. % Gur tbny bs fpvrapr vf gb ohvyq orggre zbhfrgencf. Gur tbny bs angher vf gb ohvyq orggre zvpr. % Gur ureq vafgvapg nzbat rpbabzvfgf znxrf furrc ybbx yvxr vaqrcraqrag guvaxref. % "Gur vqragvpny vf rdhny gb vgfrys, fvapr vg vf qvssrerag." -- Senapb Fcvfnav % Gur vafgehzragf bs fpvrapr qb abg va gurzfryirf qvfpbire gehgu. Naq gurer ner frnepuvatf gung ner abg pbapyhqrq ol gur pbvapvqrapr bs n cbvagre naq n znex. -- Serq Fnoreuntra, "Gur Orefrexre Jnef" % Gur xrl ryrzragf va uhzna guvaxvat ner abg ahzoref ohg ynoryf bs shmml frgf. -- Y. Mnqru % Gur yvtug bs n uhaqerq fgnef qbrf abg rdhny gur yvtug bs gur zbba. % Gur zneiryf bs gbqnl'f zbqrea grpuabybtl vapyhqr gur qrirybczrag bs n fbqn pna, jura qvfpneqrq jvyy ynfg sberire ... naq n $7,000 pne juvpu jura cebcreyl pnerq sbe jvyy ehfg bhg va gjb be guerr lrnef. % Gur zbba vf n cynarg whfg yvxr gur Rnegu, bayl vg vf rira qrnqre. % Gur zbba vf znqr bs terra purrfr. -- Wbua Urljbbq % Gur zbba znl or fznyyre guna Rnegu, ohg vg'f shegure njnl. % Gur zber gurl bire-guvax gur cyhzovat gur rnfvre vg vf gb fgbc hc gur qenva. % Gur zbfg rkpvgvat cuenfr gb urne va fpvrapr, gur bar gung urenyqf arj qvfpbirevrf, vf abg "Rherxn!" (V sbhaq vg!) ohg "Gung'f shaal ..." -- Vfnnp Nfvzbi % Gur angvba gung pbagebyf zntargvfz pbagebyf gur havirefr. -- Purfgre Tbhyq/Qvpx Genpl % Gur bayl shapgvba bs rpbabzvp sberpnfgvat vf gb znxr nfgebybtl ybbx erfcrpgnoyr. -- Wbua Xraargu Tnyoenvgu % Gur bayl cresrpg fpvrapr vf uvaq-fvtug. % Gur bayl crefba jub nyjnlf tbg uvf jbex qbar ol Sevqnl jnf Ebovafba Pehfbr. % Gur bayl cbffvoyr vagrecergngvba bs nal erfrnepu jungrire va gur `fbpvny fpvraprf' vf: fbzr qb, fbzr qba'g. -- Rearfg Ehguresbeq % Gur bccbfvgr bs n pbeerpg fgngrzrag vf n snyfr fgngrzrag. Ohg gur bccbfvgr bs n cebsbhaq gehgu znl jryy or nabgure cebsbhaq gehgu. -- Avryf Obue % Gur creirefvgl bs angher vf abjurer orggre qrzbafgengrq ol gur snpg gung, jura rkcbfrq gb gur fnzr ngzbfcurer, oernq orpbzrf uneq juvyr penpxref orpbzr fbsg. % Gur engr ng juvpu n qvfrnfr fcernqf guebhtu n pbea svryq vf n cerpvfr zrnfherzrag bs gur fcrrq bs oyvtug. % Gur ernfba gung rirel znwbe havirefvgl znvagnvaf n qrcnegzrag bs zngurzngvpf vf gung vg'f purncre guna vafgvghgvbanyvmvat nyy gubfr crbcyr. % Gur ehyr ba fgnlvat nyvir nf n sberpnfgre vf gb tvir 'rz n ahzore be tvir 'rz n qngr, ohg arire tvir 'rz obgu ng bapr. -- Wnar Oelnag Dhvaa % Gur Fuhggyr vf abj tbvat svir gvzrf gur fbhaq bs fcrrq. -- Qna Engure, svefg ynaqvat bs Pbyhzovn % Gur fbyhgvba bs ceboyrzf vf gur zbfg punenpgrevfgvp naq crphyvne fbeg bs ibyhagnel guvaxvat. -- Jvyyvnz Wnzrf % Gur fbyhgvba bs guvf ceboyrz vf gevivny naq vf yrsg nf na rkrepvfr sbe gur ernqre. % Gur fbyhgvba gb n ceboyrz punatrf gur angher bs gur ceboyrz. -- Crre % Gur fcrrq bs nalguvat qrcraqf ba gur sybj bs rirelguvat. % Gur fghql bs aba-yvarne culfvpf vf yvxr gur fghql bs aba-ryrcunag ovbybtl. % "Gur fhofcnpr _J vaurevgf gur bgure 8 cebcregvrf bs _I. Naq gurer nera'g rira nal cebcregl gnkrf." -- W. ZnpXnl, Zngurzngvpf 134o % Gur fhz bs gur Havirefr vf mreb. % Gur grfg bs vagryyvtrag gvaxrevat vf gb fnir nyy gur cnegf. -- Nyqb Yrbcbyq % Gur gerr bs erfrnepu zhfg sebz gvzr gb gvzr or erserfurq jvgu gur oybbq bs orna pbhagref. -- Nyna Xnl % Gur gehgu bs n cebcbfvgvba unf abguvat gb qb jvgu vgf perqvovyvgl. Naq ivpr irefn. % Gur gjb zbfg pbzzba guvatf va gur Havirefr ner ulqebtra naq fghcvqvgl. -- Uneyna Ryyvfba % Gur hasnpgf, qvq jr unir gurz, ner gbb vzcerpvfryl srj gb jneenag bhe pregvghqr. % Gur havirefr qbrf abg unir ynjf -- vg unf unovgf, naq unovgf pna or oebxra. % Gur havirefr vf nyy n fcva-bss bs gur Ovt Onat. % Gur havirefr vf na vfynaq, fheebhaqrq ol jungrire vg vf gung fheebhaqf havirefrf. % Gur havirefr vf yvxr n fnsr gb juvpu gurer vf n pbzovangvba -- ohg gur pbzovangvba vf ybpxrq hc va gur fnsr. -- Crgre QrIevrf % Gur Havirefr vf cbchyngrq ol fgnoyr guvatf. -- Evpuneq Qnjxvaf % Gur havirefr frrzf arvgure oravta abe ubfgvyr, zreryl vaqvssrerag. -- Fntna % Gur havirefr, gurl fnvq, qrcraqrq sbe vgf bcrengvba ba gur onynapr bs sbhe sbeprf juvpu gurl vqragvsvrq nf punez, crefhnfvba, hapregnvagl naq oybbql-zvaqrqarff. -- Greel Cengpurgg, "Gur Yvtug Snagnfgvp" % Gur Havirefvgl bs Pnyvsbeavn Fgngvfgvpf Qrcnegzrag; jurer zrna vf abezny, naq qrivngvba fgnaqneq. % Gur jbeyq vf zbivat fb snfg gurfr qnlf gung gur zna jub fnlf vg pna'g or qbar vf trarenyyl vagreehcgrq ol fbzrbar qbvat vg. -- R. Uhooneq % Gur Jevtug Obguref jrera'g gur svefg gb syl. Gurl jrer whfg gur svefg abg gb penfu. % Gurbel vf tenl, ohg gur tbyqra gerr bs yvsr vf terra. -- Tbrgur % Gurer *__vf* ab fhpu guvat nf n pvivy ratvarre. % Gurer ner ab qngn gung pnaabg or cybggrq ba n fgenvtug yvar vs gur nkvf ner pubfra pbeerpgyl. % "Gurer ner guerr cevapvcny jnlf gb ybfr zbarl: jvar, jbzra, naq ratvarref. Juvyr gur svefg gjb ner zber cyrnfnag, gur guveq vf ol sne gur zber pregnva." -- Oneba Ebgufpuvyq, pn. 1800 % Gurer ner gjb xvaqf bs fbyne-urng flfgrzf: "cnffvir" flfgrzf pbyyrpg gur fhayvtug gung uvgf lbhe ubzr, naq "npgvir" flfgrzf pbyyrpg gur fhayvtug gung uvgf lbhe arvtuobef' ubzrf, gbb. -- Qnir Oneel, "Cbfgcrgebyrhz Thmmyre" % Gurer pna or ab gjvfgrq gubhtug jvgubhg n gjvfgrq zbyrphyr. -- E. J. Treneq % Gurer vf ab yvxryvubbq zna pna rire gnc gur cbjre bs gur ngbz. -- Eboreg Zvyyvxna, Abory Cevmr va Culfvpf, 1923 % Gurer vf ab bcvavba fb nofheq gung fbzr cuvybfbcure jvyy abg rkcerff vg. -- Znephf Ghyyvhf Pvpreb, "Nq snzvyvnerf" % Gurer vf ab eblny ebnq gb trbzrgel. -- Rhpyvq % Gurer'f n jubyr JBEYQ va n zhq chqqyr! -- Qbht Pyvssbeq % Gurer'f ab shgher va gvzr geniry. % Gurer'f ab frafr va orvat cerpvfr jura lbh qba'g rira xabj jung lbh'er gnyxvat nobhg. -- Wbua iba Arhznaa % Guvatf rdhny gb abguvat ryfr ner rdhny gb rnpu bgure. % Guvf vf pyrneyl nabgure pnfr bs gbb znal znq fpvragvfgf, naq abg rabhtu uhapuonpxf. % Guvf vf gur gurbel gung Wnpx ohvyg. Guvf vf gur synj gung ynl va gur gurbel gung Wnpx ohvyg. Guvf vf gur cnycnoyr ireony unmr gung uvq gur synj gung ynl va... % Guvf cynpr whfg vfa'g ovt rabhtu sbe nyy bs hf. Jr'ir tbg gb svaq n jnl bss guvf cynarg. % Guvf havirefr fuvccrq ol jrvtug, abg ol ibyhzr. Fbzr rkcnafvba bs gur pbagragf znl unir bppheerq qhevat fuvczrag. % Gubfr jub pna, qb; gubfr jub pna'g, fvzhyngr. % Gubfr jub pna, qb; gubfr jub pna'g, jevgr. Gubfr jub pna'g jevgr jbex sbe gur Oryy Ynof Erpbeq. % ... gubhtu uvf vairagvba jbexrq fhcreoyl -- uvf gurbel jnf n pebpx bs frjntr sebz ortvaavat gb raq. -- Ireabe Ivatr, "Gur Crnpr Jne" % Guhf zngurzngvpf znl or qrsvarq nf gur fhowrpg va juvpu jr arire xabj jung jr ner gnyxvat nobhg, abe jurgure jung jr ner fnlvat vf gehr. -- Oregenaq Ehffryy % Gvzr vf na vyyhfvba crecrgengrq ol gur znahsnpgheref bs fcnpr. % Gvzr vf angher'f jnl bs znxvat fher gung rirelguvat qbrfa'g unccra ng bapr. Fcnpr vf angher'f jnl bs znxvat fher gung rirelguvat qbrfa'g unccra gb lbh. % Gb pbairefr ng gur qvfgnapr bs gur Vaqrf ol zrnaf bs flzcngurgvp pbagevinaprf znl or nf angheny gb shgher gvzrf nf gb hf vf n yvgrenel pbeerfcbaqrapr. -- Wbfrcu Tynaivyy, 1661 % Gb vairag, lbh arrq n tbbq vzntvangvba naq n cvyr bs whax. -- Gubznf Rqvfba % Gbqnl'f fpvragvsvp dhrfgvba vf: Jung va gur jbeyq vf ryrpgevpvgl? Naq jurer qbrf vg tb nsgre vg yrnirf gur gbnfgre? -- Qnir Oneel, "Jung vf Ryrpgevpvgl?" % Gbedhr vf purnc. % Gjb vf abg rdhny gb guerr, rira sbe ynetr inyhrf bs gjb. % Gjb creprag bs mreb vf nyzbfg abguvat. % Gjb jevtugf qba'g znxr n ebat, gurl znxr na nvecynar. Be ovplpyrf. % HSBf ner sbe erny: gur Nve Sbepr qbrfa'g rkvfg. % Haqrefgnaqvat vf nyjnlf gur haqrefgnaqvat bs n fznyyre ceboyrz va eryngvba gb n ovttre ceboyrz. -- C.Q. Bhfcrafxl % Hgvyvgl vf jura lbh unir bar gryrcubar, yhkhel vf jura lbh unir gjb, bchyrapr vf jura lbh unir guerr -- naq cnenqvfr vf jura lbh unir abar. -- Qbht Ynefba % Jr ner rnpu ragvgyrq gb bhe bja bcvavba, ohg ab bar vf ragvgyrq gb uvf bja snpgf. -- Cngevpx Zblavuna % Jr pna qrsrng tenivgl. Gur ceboyrz vf gur cncrejbex vaibyirq. % Jr pna cerqvpg rirelguvat, rkprcg gur shgher. % Jr pnaabg pbzznaq angher rkprcg ol borlvat ure. -- Fve Senapvf Onpba % "Jr qba'g pner. Jr qba'g unir gb. Jr'er gur Cubar Pbzcnal." % Jr qba'g xabj bar zvyyvbagu bs bar creprag nobhg nalguvat. % Jr qba'g xabj jub vg jnf gung qvfpbirerq jngre, ohg jr'er cerggl fher gung vg jnfa'g n svfu. -- Znefunyy ZpYhuna % Jr tnir lbh na ngbzvp obzo, jung qb lbh jnag, zreznvqf? -- V. V. Enov gb gur Ngbzvp Raretl Pbzzvffvba % Jr unir n rdhny bccbeghavgl Pnyphyhf pynff -- vg'f shyyl vagrtengrq. % Jr zhfg oryvrir gung vg vf gur qnexrfg orsber gur qnja bs n ornhgvshy arj jbeyq. Jr jvyy frr vg jura jr oryvrir vg. -- Fnhy Nyvafxl % Jr jnea gur ernqre va nqinapr gung gur cebbs cerfragrq urer qrcraqf ba n pyrire ohg uvtuyl hazbgvingrq gevpx. -- Ubjneq Nagba, "Ryrzragnel Yvarne Nytroen" % Jr jub eriry va angher'f qvirefvgl naq srry vafgehpgrq ol rirel navzny graq gb oenaq Ubzb fncvraf nf gur terngrfg pngnfgebcur fvapr gur Pergnprbhf rkgvapgvba. -- F.W. Tbhyq % Jr jvyy unir fbyne raretl nf fbba nf gur hgvyvgl pbzcnavrf fbyir bar grpuavpny ceboyrz -- ubj gb eha n fhaornz guebhtu n zrgre. % Jr'ir frag n zna gb gur zbba, naq gung'f 29,000 zvyrf njnl. Gur pragre bs gur Rnegu vf bayl 4,000 zvyrf njnl. Lbh pbhyq qevir gung va n jrrx, ohg sbe fbzr ernfba abobql'f rire qbar vg. -- Naql Ebbarl % Jreaure iba Oenha frggyrq sbe n I-2 jura ur pbhyqn unq n I-8. % "Jung V'ir qbar, bs pbhefr, vf gbgny tneontr." -- E. Jvyyneq, Cher Zngu 430n % Jung vf nytroen, rknpgyl? Vf vg bar bs gubfr guerr-pbearerq guvatf? -- W.Z. Oneevr % Jung vf zvaq? Ab znggre. Jung vf znggre? Arire zvaq. -- Gubznf Urjvgg Xrl, 1799-1875 % Jung vf abj cebirq jnf bapr bayl vzntva'q. -- Jvyyvnz Oynxr % Jung vf erfrnepu ohg n oyvaq qngr jvgu xabjyrqtr? -- Jvyy Uneirl % Jung vf jnagrq vf abg gur jvyy gb oryvrir, ohg gur jvyy gb svaq bhg, juvpu vf gur rknpg bccbfvgr. -- Oregenaq Ehffryy, "Fxrcgvpny Rffnlf", 1928 % Jung gur qrhpr vf vg gb zr? Lbh fnl gung jr tb nebhaq gur fha. Vs jr jrag nebhaq gur zbba vg jbhyq abg znxr n craaljbegu bs qvssrerapr gb zr be zl jbex. -- Fureybpx Ubyzrf, "N Fghql va Fpneyrg" % Jung gur fpvragvfgf unir va gurve oevrspnfrf vf greevslvat. -- Avxvgn Xuehfpuri % Jung gur jbeyq *ernyyl* arrqf vf n tbbq Nhgbzngvp Ovplpyr Funecrare. % Jura n zna fvgf jvgu n cerggl tvey sbe na ubhe, vg frrzf yvxr n zvahgr. Ohg yrg uvz fvg ba n ubg fgbir sbe n zvahgr -- naq vg'f ybatre guna nal ubhe. Gung'f eryngvivgl. -- Nyoreg Rvafgrva % Jura Nyrknaqre Tenunz Oryy qvrq va 1922, gur gryrcubar crbcyr vagreehcgrq freivpr sbe bar zvahgr va uvf ubabe. Gurl'ir orra ubabevat uvz vagrezvggragyl rire fvapr, V oryvrir. -- Gur Teno Ont % Jura fbzr crbcyr qvfpbire gur gehgu, gurl whfg pna'g haqrefgnaq jul rirelobql vfa'g rntre gb urne vg. % Jura fcrphyngvba unf qbar vgf jbefg, gjb cyhf gjb fgvyy rdhnyf sbhe. -- F. Wbuafba % "Jura gur tbvat trgf gbhtu, gur gbhtu trg rzcvevpny." -- Wba Pneebyy % Jura gur jrvtug bs gur cncrejbex rdhnyf gur jrvtug bs gur cynar, gur cynar jvyy syl. -- Qbanyq Qbhtynf % Jurer ner gur pnyphyngvbaf gung tb jvgu n pnyphyngrq evfx? % Jurer vg vf n qhgl gb jbefuvc gur fha vg vf cerggl fher gb or n pevzr gb rknzvar gur ynjf bs urng. -- Puevfgbcure Zbeyrl % Juvgr qjnes frrxf erq tvnag sbe ovanel eryngvbafuvc. % Jul qba'g lbh svk lbhe yvggyr ceboyrz... naq yvtug guvf pnaqyr? -- Nyna Furcureq, gur svefg zna vagb fcnpr, Trzvav cebtenz % Jvgu nyy gur snapl fpvragvfgf va gur jbeyq, jul pna'g gurl whfg bapr ohvyq n ahpyrne onyz? % Jvgubhg yvsr, Ovbybtl vgfrys jbhyq or vzcbffvoyr. % Ln'yy urne nobhg gur trbzrgre jub jrag gb gur ornpu gb pngpu fbzr enlf naq orpnzr n gnatrag ? % "Lrnu, ohg lbh'er gnxvat gur havirefr bhg bs pbagrkg." % Lbh pna abg trg nalguvat jbegujuvyr qbar jvgubhg envfvat n fjrng. -- Gur Svefg Ynj Bs Gurezbqlanzvpf % Jung rire lbh jnag vf tbvat gb pbfg n yvggyr zber guna vg vf jbegu. -- Gur Frpbaq Ynj Bs Gurezbqlanzvpf % Lbh pna abg jva gur tnzr, naq lbh ner abg nyybjrq gb fgbc cynlvat. -- Gur Guveq Ynj Bs Gurezbqlanzvpf % Lbh pna'g purng gur cubar pbzcnal. % Lbh pnaabg unir n fpvrapr jvgubhg zrnfherzrag. -- E. J. Unzzvat % Lbh xabj lbh'ir ynaqrq trne-hc jura vg gnxrf shyy cbjre gb gnkv. % Lbh zrna lbh qvqa'g *xabj* fur jnf bss znxvat ybgf bs yvggyr cubar pbzcnavrf? % Lbh fubhyq arire org ntnvafg nalguvat va fpvrapr ng bqqf bs zber guna nobhg 10^12 gb 1. -- Rearfg Ehguresbeq % Lbh jvyy arire nzbhag gb zhpu. -- Zhavpu Fpubbyznfgre, gb Nyoreg Rvafgrva, ntr 10 %

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ROT13 quotes - Totally off topic (-1, Offtopic)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year ago | (#43862839)

I was about to post this, but figured I'd better see if anyone else had.

"Our vision is to speed up time, eventually eliminating it." -- Alex Schure % Parallel lines never meet, unless you bend one or both of them. % Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. % People who go to conferences are the ones who shouldn't. % Philogyny recapitulates erogeny; erogeny recapitulates philogyny. % "Picture the sun as the origin of two intersecting 6-dimensional hyperplanes from which we can deduce a certain transformational sequence which gives us the terminal velocity of a rubber duck ..." % Pie are not square. Pie are round. Cornbread are square. % Polymer physicists are into chains. % Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious animal on earth. % Power corrupts. And atomic power corrupts atomically. % Progress means replacing a theory that is wrong with one more subtly wrong. % Prototype designs always work. -- Don Vonada % "Protozoa are small, and bacteria are small, but viruses are smaller than the both put together." % Quantum Mechanics is a lovely introduction to Hilbert Spaces! -- Overheard at last year's Archimedeans' Garden Party % Quantum Mechanics is God's version of "Trust me." % Quark! Quark! Beware the quantum duck! % Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. % Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled. -- R.P. Feynman % Remember Darwin; building a better mousetrap merely results in smarter mice. % Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and think what nobody else has thought. % Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. -- Wernher von Braun % Round Numbers are always false. -- Samuel Johnson % Saliva causes cancer, but only if swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time. -- George Carlin % Science and religion are in full accord but science and faith are in complete discord. % Science is built up of facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house. -- Jules Henri Poincar'e % Science is what happens when preconception meets verification. % Science may someday discover what faith has always known. % Scientists are people who build the Brooklyn Bridge and then buy it. -- William Buckley % Sentient plasmoids are a gas. % Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. % Solutions are obvious if one only has the optical power to observe them over the horizon. -- K.A. Arsdall % Space is to place as eternity is to time. -- Joseph Joubert % Space tells matter how to move and matter tells space how to curve. -- Wheeler % Statistics are no substitute for judgement. -- Henry Clay % Statistics means never having to say you're certain. % Stellar rays prove fibbing never pays. Embezzlement is another matter. % Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! % Take an astronaut to launch. % Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards. -- Aldous Huxley % Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not understand. % The aim of science is to seek the simplest explanations of complex facts. Seek simplicity and distrust it. -- Whitehead. % The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely 1 bananosecond. % The amount of weight an evangelist carries with the almighty is measured in billigrahams. % The best defense against logic is ignorance. % The bigger the theory the better. % The biggest difference between time and space is that you can't reuse time. -- Merrick Furst % The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives. -- Admiral William Leahy, U.S. Atomic Bomb Project % The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom. % The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness. -- John Muir % The devil finds work for idle circuits to do. % The difference between reality and unreality is that reality has so little to recommend it. -- Allan Sherman % The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning while those other subjects merely require scholarship. -- Robert Heinlein % The earth is like a tiny grain of sand, only much, much heavier. % The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on weather forecasters. -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann % The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is the most likely to be correct. -- William of Occam % The following statement is not true. The previous statement is true. % The Force is what holds everything together. It has its dark side, and it has its light side. It's sort of like cosmic duct tape. % "The four building blocks of the universe are fire, water, gravel and vinyl." -- Dave Barry % The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons. -- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist % The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. % The goal of science is to build better mousetraps. The goal of nature is to build better mice. % The herd instinct among economists makes sheep look like independent thinkers. % "The identical is equal to itself, since it is different." -- Franco Spisani % The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, "The Berserker Wars" % The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh % The light of a hundred stars does not equal the light of the moon. % The marvels of today's modern technology include the development of a soda can, when discarded will last forever ... and a $7,000 car which when properly cared for will rust out in two or three years. % The moon is a planet just like the Earth, only it is even deader. % The moon is made of green cheese. -- John Heywood % The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away. % The more they over-think the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain. % The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov % The nation that controls magnetism controls the universe. -- Chester Gould/Dick Tracy % The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable. -- John Kenneth Galbraith % The only perfect science is hind-sight. % The only person who always got his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. % The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the `social sciences' is: some do, some don't. -- Ernest Rutherford % The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. -- Niels Bohr % The perversity of nature is nowhere better demonstrated by the fact that, when exposed to the same atmosphere, bread becomes hard while crackers become soft. % The rate at which a disease spreads through a corn field is a precise measurement of the speed of blight. % The reason that every major university maintains a department of mathematics is that it's cheaper than institutionalizing all those people. % The rule on staying alive as a forecaster is to give 'em a number or give 'em a date, but never give 'em both at once. -- Jane Bryant Quinn % The Shuttle is now going five times the sound of speed. -- Dan Rather, first landing of Columbia % The solution of problems is the most characteristic and peculiar sort of voluntary thinking. -- William James % The solution of this problem is trivial and is left as an exercise for the reader. % The solution to a problem changes the nature of the problem. -- Peer % The speed of anything depends on the flow of everything. % The study of non-linear physics is like the study of non-elephant biology. % "The subspace _W inherits the other 8 properties of _V. And there aren't even any property taxes." -- J. MacKay, Mathematics 134b % The sum of the Universe is zero. % The test of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts. -- Aldo Leopold % The tree of research must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of bean counters. -- Alan Kay % The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice versa. % The two most common things in the Universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Harlan Ellison % The unfacts, did we have them, are too imprecisely few to warrant our certitude. % The universe does not have laws -- it has habits, and habits can be broken. % The universe is all a spin-off of the Big Bang. % The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. % The universe is like a safe to which there is a combination -- but the combination is locked up in the safe. -- Peter DeVries % The Universe is populated by stable things. -- Richard Dawkins % The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent. -- Sagan % The universe, they said, depended for its operation on the balance of four forces which they identified as charm, persuasion, uncertainty and bloody-mindedness. -- Terry Pratchett, "The Light Fantastic" % The University of California Statistics Department; where mean is normal, and deviation standard. % The world is moving so fast these days that the man who says it can't be done is generally interrupted by someone doing it. -- E. Hubbard % The Wright Bothers weren't the first to fly. They were just the first not to crash. % Theory is gray, but the golden tree of life is green. -- Goethe % There *__is* no such thing as a civil engineer. % There are no data that cannot be plotted on a straight line if the axis are chosen correctly. % "There are three principal ways to lose money: wine, women, and engineers. While the first two are more pleasant, the third is by far the more certain." -- Baron Rothschild, ca. 1800 % There are two kinds of solar-heat systems: "passive" systems collect the sunlight that hits your home, and "active" systems collect the sunlight that hits your neighbors' homes, too. -- Dave Barry, "Postpetroleum Guzzler" % There can be no twisted thought without a twisted molecule. -- R. W. Gerard % There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom. -- Robert Millikan, Nobel Prize in Physics, 1923 % There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, "Ad familiares" % There is no royal road to geometry. -- Euclid % There's a whole WORLD in a mud puddle! -- Doug Clifford % There's no future in time travel. % There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. -- John von Neumann % Things equal to nothing else are equal to each other. % This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. % This is the theory that Jack built. This is the flaw that lay in the theory that Jack built. This is the palpable verbal haze that hid the flaw that lay in... % This place just isn't big enough for all of us. We've got to find a way off this planet. % This universe shipped by weight, not by volume. Some expansion of the contents may have occurred during shipment. % Those who can, do; those who can't, simulate. % Those who can, do; those who can't, write. Those who can't write work for the Bell Labs Record. % ... though his invention worked superbly -- his theory was a crock of sewage from beginning to end. -- Vernor Vinge, "The Peace War" % Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true. -- Bertrand Russell % Time is an illusion perpetrated by the manufacturers of space. % Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen at once. Space is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen to you. % To converse at the distance of the Indes by means of sympathetic contrivances may be as natural to future times as to us is a literary correspondence. -- Joseph Glanvill, 1661 % To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison % Today's scientific question is: What in the world is electricity? And where does it go after it leaves the toaster? -- Dave Barry, "What is Electricity?" % Torque is cheap. % Two is not equal to three, even for large values of two. % Two percent of zero is almost nothing. % Two wrights don't make a rong, they make an airplane. Or bicycles. % UFOs are for real: the Air Force doesn't exist. % Understanding is always the understanding of a smaller problem in relation to a bigger problem. -- P.D. Ouspensky % Utility is when you have one telephone, luxury is when you have two, opulence is when you have three -- and paradise is when you have none. -- Doug Larson % We are each entitled to our own opinion, but no one is entitled to his own facts. -- Patrick Moynihan % We can defeat gravity. The problem is the paperwork involved. % We can predict everything, except the future. % We cannot command nature except by obeying her. -- Sir Francis Bacon % "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company." % We don't know one millionth of one percent about anything. % We don't know who it was that discovered water, but we're pretty sure that it wasn't a fish. -- Marshall McLuhan % We gave you an atomic bomb, what do you want, mermaids? -- I. I. Rabi to the Atomic Energy Commission % We have a equal opportunity Calculus class -- it's fully integrated. % We must believe that it is the darkest before the dawn of a beautiful new world. We will see it when we believe it. -- Saul Alinsky % We warn the reader in advance that the proof presented here depends on a clever but highly unmotivated trick. -- Howard Anton, "Elementary Linear Algebra" % We who revel in nature's diversity and feel instructed by every animal tend to brand Homo sapiens as the greatest catastrophe since the Cretaceous extinction. -- S.J. Gould % We will have solar energy as soon as the utility companies solve one technical problem -- how to run a sunbeam through a meter. % We've sent a man to the moon, and that's 29,000 miles away. The center of the Earth is only 4,000 miles away. You could drive that in a week, but for some reason nobody's ever done it. -- Andy Rooney % Wernher von Braun settled for a V-2 when he coulda had a V-8. % "What I've done, of course, is total garbage." -- R. Willard, Pure Math 430a % What is algebra, exactly? Is it one of those three-cornered things? -- J.M. Barrie % What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind. -- Thomas Hewitt Key, 1799-1875 % What is now proved was once only imagin'd. -- William Blake % What is research but a blind date with knowledge? -- Will Harvey % What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. -- Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical Essays", 1928 % What the deuce is it to me? You say that we go around the sun. If we went around the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or my work. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Study in Scarlet" % What the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. -- Nikita Khruschev % What the world *really* needs is a good Automatic Bicycle Sharpener. % When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute -- and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity. -- Albert Einstein % When Alexander Graham Bell died in 1922, the telephone people interrupted service for one minute in his honor. They've been honoring him intermittently ever since, I believe. -- The Grab Bag % When some people discover the truth, they just can't understand why everybody isn't eager to hear it. % When speculation has done its worst, two plus two still equals four. -- S. Johnson % "When the going gets tough, the tough get empirical." -- Jon Carroll % When the weight of the paperwork equals the weight of the plane, the plane will fly. -- Donald Douglas % Where are the calculations that go with a calculated risk? % Where it is a duty to worship the sun it is pretty sure to be a crime to examine the laws of heat. -- Christopher Morley % White dwarf seeks red giant for binary relationship. % Why don't you fix your little problem... and light this candle? -- Alan Shepherd, the first man into space, Gemini program % With all the fancy scientists in the world, why can't they just once build a nuclear balm? % Without life, Biology itself would be impossible. % Ya'll hear about the geometer who went to the beach to catch some rays and became a tangent ? % "Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context." % You can not get anything worthwhile done without raising a sweat. -- The First Law Of Thermodynamics % What ever you want is going to cost a little more than it is worth. -- The Second Law Of Thermodynamics % You can not win the game, and you are not allowed to stop playing. -- The Third Law Of Thermodynamics % You can't cheat the phone company. % You cannot have a science without measurement. -- R. W. Hamming % You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi. % You mean you didn't *know* she was off making lots of little phone companies? % You should never bet against anything in science at odds of more than about 10^12 to 1. -- Ernest Rutherford % You will never amount to much. -- Munich Schoolmaster, to Albert Einstein, age 10 %

Re:What is on slashdot? (-1, Offtopic)

ajlitt (19055) | about a year ago | (#43862841)

The quote of the day picker is out to lunch it seems:

"Our vision is to speed up time, eventually eliminating it." -- Alex Schure % Parallel lines never meet, unless you bend one or both of them. % Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. % People who go to conferences are the ones who shouldn't. % Philogyny recapitulates erogeny; erogeny recapitulates philogyny. % "Picture the sun as the origin of two intersecting 6-dimensional hyperplanes from which we can deduce a certain transformational sequence which gives us the terminal velocity of a rubber duck ..." % Pie are not square. Pie are round. Cornbread are square. % Polymer physicists are into chains. % Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious animal on earth. % Power corrupts. And atomic power corrupts atomically. % Progress means replacing a theory that is wrong with one more subtly wrong. % Prototype designs always work. -- Don Vonada % "Protozoa are small, and bacteria are small, but viruses are smaller than the both put together." % Quantum Mechanics is a lovely introduction to Hilbert Spaces! -- Overheard at last year's Archimedeans' Garden Party % Quantum Mechanics is God's version of "Trust me." % Quark! Quark! Beware the quantum duck! % Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. % Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled. -- R.P. Feynman % Remember Darwin; building a better mousetrap merely results in smarter mice. % Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and think what nobody else has thought. % Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. -- Wernher von Braun % Round Numbers are always false. -- Samuel Johnson % Saliva causes cancer, but only if swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time. -- George Carlin % Science and religion are in full accord but science and faith are in complete discord. % Science is built up of facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house. -- Jules Henri Poincare % Science is what happens when preconception meets verification. % Science may someday discover what faith has always known. % Scientists are people who build the Brooklyn Bridge and then buy it. -- William Buckley % Sentient plasmoids are a gas. % Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. % Solutions are obvious if one only has the optical power to observe them over the horizon. -- K.A. Arsdall % Space is to place as eternity is to time. -- Joseph Joubert % Space tells matter how to move and matter tells space how to curve. -- Wheeler % Statistics are no substitute for judgement. -- Henry Clay % Statistics means never having to say you're certain. % Stellar rays prove fibbing never pays. Embezzlement is another matter. % Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! % Take an astronaut to launch. % Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards. -- Aldous Huxley % Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not understand. % The aim of science is to seek the simplest explanations of complex facts. Seek simplicity and distrust it. -- Whitehead. % The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely 1 bananosecond. % The amount of weight an evangelist carries with the almighty is measured in billigrahams. % The best defense against logic is ignorance. % The bigger the theory the better. % The biggest difference between time and space is that you can't reuse time. -- Merrick Furst % The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives. -- Admiral William Leahy, U.S. Atomic Bomb Project % The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom. % The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness. -- John Muir % The devil finds work for idle circuits to do. % The difference between reality and unreality is that reality has so little to recommend it. -- Allan Sherman % The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning while those other subjects merely require scholarship. -- Robert Heinlein % The earth is like a tiny grain of sand, only much, much heavier. % The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on weather forecasters. -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann % The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is the most likely to be correct. -- William of Occam % The following statement is not true. The previous statement is true. % The Force is what holds everything together. It has its dark side, and it has its light side. It's sort of like cosmic duct tape. % "The four building blocks of the universe are fire, water, gravel and vinyl." -- Dave Barry % The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons. -- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist % The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. % The goal of science is to build better mousetraps. The goal of nature is to build better mice. % The herd instinct among economists makes sheep look like independent thinkers. % "The identical is equal to itself, since it is different." -- Franco Spisani % The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, "The Berserker Wars" % The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh % The light of a hundred stars does not equal the light of the moon. % The marvels of today's modern technology include the development of a soda can, when discarded will last forever ... and a $7,000 car which when properly cared for will rust out in two or three years. % The moon is a planet just like the Earth, only it is even deader. % The moon is made of green cheese. -- John Heywood % The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away. % The more they over-think the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain. % The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov % The nation that controls magnetism controls the universe. -- Chester Gould/Dick Tracy % The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable. -- John Kenneth Galbraith % The only perfect science is hind-sight. % The only person who always got his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. % The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the `social sciences' is: some do, some don't. -- Ernest Rutherford % The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. -- Niels Bohr % The perversity of nature is nowhere better demonstrated by the fact that, when exposed to the same atmosphere, bread becomes hard while crackers become soft. % The rate at which a disease spreads through a corn field is a precise measurement of the speed of blight. % The reason that every major university maintains a department of mathematics is that it's cheaper than institutionalizing all those people. % The rule on staying alive as a forecaster is to give 'em a number or give 'em a date, but never give 'em both at once. -- Jane Bryant Quinn % The Shuttle is now going five times the sound of speed. -- Dan Rather, first landing of Columbia % The solution of problems is the most characteristic and peculiar sort of voluntary thinking. -- William James % The solution of this problem is trivial and is left as an exercise for the reader. % The solution to a problem changes the nature of the problem. -- Peer % The speed of anything depends on the flow of everything. % The study of non-linear physics is like the study of non-elephant biology. % "The subspace W inherits the other 8 properties of V. And there aren't even any property taxes." -- J. MacKay, Mathematics 134b % The sum of the Universe is zero. % The test of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts. -- Aldo Leopold % The tree of research must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of bean counters. -- Alan Kay % The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice versa. % The two most common things in the Universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Harlan Ellison % The unfacts, did we have them, are too imprecisely few to warrant our certitude. % The universe does not have laws -- it has habits, and habits can be broken. % The universe is all a spin-off of the Big Bang. % The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. % The universe is like a safe to which there is a combination -- but the combination is locked up in the safe. -- Peter DeVries % The Universe is populated by stable things. -- Richard Dawkins % The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent. -- Sagan % The universe, they said, depended for its operation on the balance of four forces which they identified as charm, persuasion, uncertainty and bloody-mindedness. -- Terry Pratchett, "The Light Fantastic" % The University of California Statistics Department; where mean is normal, and deviation standard. % The world is moving so fast these days that the man who says it can't be done is generally interrupted by someone doing it. -- E. Hubbard % The Wright Bothers weren't the first to fly. They were just the first not to crash. % Theory is gray, but the golden tree of life is green. -- Goethe % There *is* no such thing as a civil engineer. % There are no data that cannot be plotted on a straight line if the axis are chosen correctly. % "There are three principal ways to lose money: wine, women, and engineers. While the first two are more pleasant, the third is by far the more certain." -- Baron Rothschild, ca. 1800 % There are two kinds of solar-heat systems: "passive" systems collect the sunlight that hits your home, and "active" systems collect the sunlight that hits your neighbors' homes, too. -- Dave Barry, "Postpetroleum Guzzler" % There can be no twisted thought without a twisted molecule. -- R. W. Gerard % There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom. -- Robert Millikan, Nobel Prize in Physics, 1923 % There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, "Ad familiares" % There is no royal road to geometry. -- Euclid % There's a whole WORLD in a mud puddle! -- Doug Clifford % There's no future in time travel. % There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. -- John von Neumann % Things equal to nothing else are equal to each other. % This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. % This is the theory that Jack built. This is the flaw that lay in the theory that Jack built. This is the palpable verbal haze that hid the flaw that lay in... % This place just isn't big enough for all of us. We've got to find a way off this planet. % This universe shipped by weight, not by volume. Some expansion of the contents may have occurred during shipment. % Those who can, do; those who can't, simulate. % Those who can, do; those who can't, write. Those who can't write work for the Bell Labs Record. % ... though his invention worked superbly -- his theory was a crock of sewage from beginning to end. -- Vernor Vinge, "The Peace War" % Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true. -- Bertrand Russell % Time is an illusion perpetrated by the manufacturers of space. % Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen at once. Space is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen to you. % To converse at the distance of the Indes by means of sympathetic contrivances may be as natural to future times as to us is a literary correspondence. -- Joseph Glanvill, 1661 % To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison % Today's scientific question is: What in the world is electricity? And where does it go after it leaves the toaster? -- Dave Barry, "What is Electricity?" % Torque is cheap. % Two is not equal to three, even for large values of two. % Two percent of zero is almost nothing. % Two wrights don't make a rong, they make an airplane. Or bicycles. % UFOs are for real: the Air Force doesn't exist. % Understanding is always the understanding of a smaller problem in relation to a bigger problem. -- P.D. Ouspensky % Utility is when you have one telephone, luxury is when you have two, opulence is when you have three -- and paradise is when you have none. -- Doug Larson % We are each entitled to our own opinion, but no one is entitled to his own facts. -- Patrick Moynihan % We can defeat gravity. The problem is the paperwork involved. % We can predict everything, except the future. % We cannot command nature except by obeying her. -- Sir Francis Bacon % "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company." % We don't know one millionth of one percent about anything. % We don't know who it was that discovered water, but we're pretty sure that it wasn't a fish. -- Marshall McLuhan % We gave you an atomic bomb, what do you want, mermaids? -- I. I. Rabi to the Atomic Energy Commission % We have a equal opportunity Calculus class -- it's fully integrated. % We must believe that it is the darkest before the dawn of a beautiful new world. We will see it when we believe it. -- Saul Alinsky % We warn the reader in advance that the proof presented here depends on a clever but highly unmotivated trick. -- Howard Anton, "Elementary Linear Algebra" % We who revel in nature's diversity and feel instructed by every animal tend to brand Homo sapiens as the greatest catastrophe since the Cretaceous extinction. -- S.J. Gould % We will have solar energy as soon as the utility companies solve one technical problem -- how to run a sunbeam through a meter. % We've sent a man to the moon, and that's 29,000 miles away. The center of the Earth is only 4,000 miles away. You could drive that in a week, but for some reason nobody's ever done it. -- Andy Rooney % Wernher von Braun settled for a V-2 when he coulda had a V-8. % "What I've done, of course, is total garbage." -- R. Willard, Pure Math 430a % What is algebra, exactly? Is it one of those three-cornered things? -- J.M. Barrie % What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind. -- Thomas Hewitt Key, 1799-1875 % What is now proved was once only imagin'd. -- William Blake % What is research but a blind date with knowledge? -- Will Harvey % What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. -- Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical Essays", 1928 % What the deuce is it to me? You say that we go around the sun. If we went around the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or my work. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Study in Scarlet" % What the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. -- Nikita Khruschev % What the world *really* needs is a good Automatic Bicycle Sharpener. % When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute -- and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity. -- Albert Einstein % When Alexander Graham Bell died in 1922, the telephone people interrupted service for one minute in his honor. They've been honoring him intermittently ever since, I believe. -- The Grab Bag % When some people discover the truth, they just can't understand why everybody isn't eager to hear it. % When speculation has done its worst, two plus two still equals four. -- S. Johnson % "When the going gets tough, the tough get empirical." -- Jon Carroll % When the weight of the paperwork equals the weight of the plane, the plane will fly. -- Donald Douglas % Where are the calculations that go with a calculated risk? % Where it is a duty to worship the sun it is pretty sure to be a crime to examine the laws of heat. -- Christopher Morley % White dwarf seeks red giant for binary relationship. % Why don't you fix your little problem... and light this candle? -- Alan Shepherd, the first man into space, Gemini program % With all the fancy scientists in the world, why can't they just once build a nuclear balm? % Without life, Biology itself would be impossible. % Ya'll hear about the geometer who went to the beach to catch some rays and became a tangent ? % "Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context." % You can not get anything worthwhile done without raising a sweat. -- The First Law Of Thermodynamics % What ever you want is going to cost a little more than it is worth. -- The Second Law Of Thermodynamics % You can not win the game, and you are not allowed to stop playing. -- The Third Law Of Thermodynamics % You can't cheat the phone company. % You cannot have a science without measurement. -- R. W. Hamming % You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi. % You mean you didn't *know* she was off making lots of little phone companies? % You should never bet against anything in science at odds of more than about 10^12 to 1. -- Ernest Rutherford % You will never amount to much. -- Munich Schoolmaster, to Albert Einstein, age 10 %
ajlitt@serval:/tmp$ rot13 foo|less
hen some people discover the truth, they just can't understand why everybody isn't eager to hear it. % When speculation has done its worst, two plus two still equals four. -- S. Johnson % "When the going gets tough, the tough get empirical." -- Jon Carroll % When the weight of the paperwork equals the weight of the plane, the plane will fly. -- Donald Douglas % Where are the calculations that go with a calculated risk? % Where it is a duty to worship the sun it is pretty sure to be a crime to examine the laws of heat. -- Christopher Morley % White dwarf seeks red giant for binary relationship. % Why don't you fix your little problem... and light this candle? -- Alan Shepherd, the first man into space, Gemini program % With all the fancy scientists in the world, why can't they just once build a nuclear balm? % Without life, Biology itself would be impossible. % Ya'll hear about the geometer who went to the beach to catch some rays and became a tangent ? % "Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context." % You can not get anything worthwhile done without raising a sweat. -- The First Law Of Thermodynamics % What ever you want is going to cost a little more than it is worth. -- The Second Law Of Thermodynamics % You can not win the game, and you are not allowed to stop playing. -- The Third Law Of Thermodynamics % You can't cheat the phone company. % You cannot have a science without measurement. -- R. W. Hamming % You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi. % You mean you didn't *know* she was off making lots of little phone companies? % You should never bet against anything in science at odds of more than about 10^12 to 1. -- Ernest Rutherford % You will never amount to much. -- Munich Schoolmaster, to Albert Einstein, age 10 %

Windows 8 has helped make this possible (0)

echtertyp (1094605) | about a year ago | (#43862805)

Ubuntu and *nix in general has been getting better and better.... and then Windows put a shotgun in its mouth and pulled the trigger, becoming "Windows 8".

the details of the bug... likely: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43862863)

This bug affects: 1 person
is assigned to: Apple and Google
Labels Applied to this issue: wont fix, invalid
Status:Completed

Reports of the death of PC... (1)

Junta (36770) | about a year ago | (#43862875)

Have been greatly exaggerated. Phones and tablets have largely been a distinct market. I don't think it has really had any particular effect on PC or laptop market.

I'm willing to beleve that *sales* of x86 systems to the consumer market have slowed. I think though that *usage* hasn't decreased appreciably. x86 ecosystem got 'good enough' for the vast majority of market and performance needs no longer drive demand. I think this would have been the reality with or without android/ios/etc.

It does reaffirm that Ubuntu just does not care about the desktop model at all. That was self-evident from the crap of Unity and Mir though. It further erodes what little respect I had for the distribution. They are chasing market opportunity more than trying to provide value to their users. It's sad on both ends. On one end, their once respectable desktop experience has languished. On the other end, their attempts to get into televisions and phones have been pretty pathetic.

Re:Reports of the death of PC... (1)

PRMan (959735) | about a year ago | (#43863181)

I disagree. I know a lot of people that use tablets to browse web and e-mail and access Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. A house that needed 4 PCs before for a family of four (2 parents, 2 teenagers) now only needs 1 or 2 PCs and 4 tablets. That's a 50%-75% reduction in the number of needed PCs.

Plenty of purile stuff left in the list... (4, Insightful)

Bearhouse (1034238) | about a year ago | (#43862889)

Like this one:

  #461000 General populace ignorance of Ubuntu

Easy fix; stop doing stupid things that are driving people to Mint etc. and get back to what a lot of people, (including me) were hoping for at the beginning - a decent distro that "just works" that we would could confidently install at friends, family, neighbours, SOHO whatever, without support nightmares at evenings and weekends. (Yes, I've been dicking around with BSD etc. for years, but I do need some time with my family...)

With MS busy pissing people off with Win8, they've missed a great opportunity.
I had some success 'converting' people with Linux skinned as XP; c'mon Mark; where's Ubuntu Win7 edition?

Silly rabbit... (4, Interesting)

David_Hart (1184661) | about a year ago | (#43862929)

....trixs are for kids

I've been on Slashdot for a while now and I'll never understand the fanaticism that drives the UNIX culture that would spawn the
1. Creation of a bug report that is, essentially, a political statement
2. One that is left open for 9 years just because they are that childish
3. Reporting said bug/political statement has been closed as if some monumental success has been achieved.

Closed how? "Wontfix?" (4, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | about a year ago | (#43862941)

The typical "bug fixing" strategy for open source seems to be

  • Ignore bug unless many other people confirm it.
  • After a few years, claim that some change probably fixed the bug, and ask the bug reporter to reproduce it again.
  • Close the bug without actually fixing it.

Re:Closed how? "Wontfix?" (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year ago | (#43863161)

Hey, that's my bug fixing strategy at work!

Re:Closed how? "Wontfix?" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863445)

Who says they even need to claim that so-and-so change fixed it? One time when I looked around Launchpad, a common way I was seeing issues getting closed was someone coming several months later and being like "this was reported for 12.10, can you reproduce it in 13.04?" and then closing it as incomplete when the user who has probably switched to a similar package or another distro at that point no longer cares.

Re:Closed how? "Wontfix?" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863581)

Clearly Ubuntu has taken the lead over Microsoft in marketshare. It is truly the year of Linux on the desktop.

Ubuntu has always been about hype (2)

TheDarkener (198348) | about a year ago | (#43863155)

I cannot disagree that Ubuntu (and Canonical) have done a good (no, great) job at bringing Linux more into peoples' hearts and minds. To say that Ubuntu is a poster-boy distro, however, would be a crime. Ubuntu stood on the shoulders of Debian to gain its traction, but past the initial push of getting better hardware/driver support, it seems like the roadmap of Ubuntu has been about as scattered as darts thrown by a drunken barfly. A bunch of ambitious "tries" at different angles, with very little attention to actually fixing bugs to maintain their stability/usability ("Won't fix" as new release is out, LTS: Long-term-suffering, ...). I really, really tried loving Ubuntu for the long term, even bet my biggest contract on them to bring LTSP to schools (one of their ambitious "tries" back in the day) but their coordination with outside OSS projects and communities were disappointing to me.

I'm not trying to bash Ubuntu, like I said they have done a lot of good. But I'm typing this on my Debian workstation, which I left to go to Ubuntu for a number of years, and now I'm back. And I couldn't be happier, because I haven't had such a stable system in years =) None the less, congrats on fixing the infamous bug #1 I guess. It is a very sentimental thing, I'm sure.

6% to go (2)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#43863267)

according to Wikimedia [wikimedia.org] . I agree with the trend sentiment, but they still have a majority.

A slight problem with bufix (3, Insightful)

WaffleMonster (969671) | about a year ago | (#43863341)

"enables malicious anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic practices."

Apparently so does ubuntu's integrated search by default.

a fix was actually released for this.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863465)

by microsoft of all people.....

called windows 8.

WONTFIX: Works on my machine (3, Insightful)

moderators_are_w*nke (571920) | about a year ago | (#43863517)

Not sure why this wasn't closed ages ago.

LAME (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863579)

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