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Slashdot Killed My Kickstarter Campaign

timothy posted about a year ago | from the resharpen-your-knives dept.

Networking 163

New submitter agizis writes "Alex from Connectify here. I wanted to say thanks to all of you who commented on the Slashdot story about our Kickstarter campaign It was super-educational discussing Switchboard with all of you: you wanted your own servers, and we weren't doing enough to communicate what was so special about Switchboard. Based in a large part on your feedback, we blew up our Kickstarter campaign, and changed almost everything. Thanks, Slashdot. This isn't reddit, but ask me anything."

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Kickstarter & Slashdot (5, Funny)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about a year ago | (#43863707)

Hi Alex, thanks for the info. Based on your experience with Kickstarter, do you think a Kickstarter to get a subscription to Slashdot would be successful? I don't seem to be able to disable ads anymore based on my karma, and I'm finding them highly annoying.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863717)

I hope your computer burns down.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (2, Insightful)

Grishnakh (216268) | about a year ago | (#43863731)

Have you tried AdBLock Plus?

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863801)

AdBlock Plus blocks Slashvertisements now?

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1, Informative)

Grishnakh (216268) | about a year ago | (#43863853)

It blocks the regular banner ads just fine. Nothing can block Slashvertisements however.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#43863893)

You clearly missed the joke.

obviously I disabled it to post this... (4, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | about a year ago | (#43863987)

I find that a well-tuned bullshit detector blocks Slashvertisements just fine.

Re:obviously I disabled it to post this... (1)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#43864229)

Who can afford a tuner in this economy?

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | about a year ago | (#43864635)

It blocks the regular banner ads just fine. Nothing can block Slashvertisements however.

Nuke them from orbit. It's the only way...

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864131)

APKBlock+ does!

0.0.0.0 slashdot.org

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864343)

WRONG!

The correct form is:

127.0.0.1 slashdot.org www.slashdot.org tech.slashdot.org etc etc etc

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1)

sexconker (1179573) | about a year ago | (#43864425)

WRONG!

The correct form is:

127.0.0.1 slashdot.org www.slashdot.org tech.slashdot.org etc etc etc

0.0.0.0 is faster.
127.0.0.1 negatively impacts performance compared to 0.0.0.0

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863819)

I think he's referring ads that appear in the form of a posting... just like this one.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (2)

hackula (2596247) | about a year ago | (#43864027)

whoooosh

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1, Funny)

Minupla (62455) | about a year ago | (#43863761)

The disable ads option is still there for me, mehaps your karma just isn't high enough at the moment?

Min

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (5, Informative)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about a year ago | (#43863809)

Whoosh.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864219)

Hey, it's not the GP's fault the GGP sucks at telling jokes.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1)

cyberzephyr (705742) | about a year ago | (#43864341)

My Karma is Excellent and is still have been getting them.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863925)

Slashdot has generally become a hangout for hecklers and no-nothings who simply do not know what they are talking about regards new ideas and technology. I wish I had no experience but I have it too. This site is all too often for the rude and ignorant to claim they know. I have been commented on at least 3 times on Slashdot. Every time the ignorant fools held sway and well heckling is alive and well. You have my sympathy but please know the behavior.
If you want a good idea to win, stay off Slashdot in trying to get it out.

I will follow on by noting several things. Slashdot was site where people repeatedly heckled LENR (Cold Fusion) Folks it works and is about to be mainstream everyday stuff. Slashdot was a site where people were cut down for even a typo. Wrong! Bad Behavior for sure! Slashdot has consistently sided with the modern energy industry who has delivered us the most stunning of disasters. They denied for months the Macondo Well blowout was blowing over 5,000 BPD. This was despite obvious fact to the contrary.

Notice to investors: If an Idea is panned on Slashdot, that is probably the best indicator that it is a good place to put your money.

Re: Kickstarter & Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864375)

And people with poor grammar and spelling, complaining about other posters...

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (2)

smg5266 (2440940) | about a year ago | (#43864165)

I've got a host file that can do it

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864253)

Slashdot has ads? I haven't even noticed, but now that you mention them, I see that Windows 8 advertisement. Sure makes me want to buy the product after reading lots of complaints on Windows 8.1.

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864407)

No ads on DoB.

Thanks (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863747)

Thanks guy. Since we can ask anything.

Why is Slashdot so much better than reddit?

Re:Thanks (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863985)

Thanks guy. Since we can ask anything.

Why is Slashdot so much better than reddit?

Because the stories hit Slashdot days after reddit so we've had plenty of time to think about our sarcastic posts.

Re:Thanks (1)

eclectro (227083) | about a year ago | (#43864447)

Why is Slashdot so much better than reddit?

Because CowboyNeal and a large chunk of his Slashdot friends is now on Reddit now looking at cat pictures, leaving Slashdot a much quieter place?

Finally /.'d again (4, Funny)

cod3r_ (2031620) | about a year ago | (#43863767)

Seems now days with fast interwebs and badass servers you don't see many pages getting /.'d which was half the fun of posting websites back in the day. Now we are here to /. your kickstarter projects

"This isn't reddit..." (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863803)

This isn't reddit, but ask me anything.

Yeah, it's too bad, because Reddit is better in every way, especially moderation.

Re:"This isn't reddit..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864615)

So WTF are you doing here, troll? Go back to reddit!

Re:"This isn't reddit..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864683)

The key disadvantage of Reddit is that the regulars there are hipsters and arrogant twits.

Re:"This isn't reddit..." (4, Funny)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about a year ago | (#43864819)

Let me lick the cheesy poofs off my fingers before I reply...

You took slashdot comments seriously??? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863807)

Let me get this straight....

You had an idea on Kickstarter. You asked slashdot when they thought. You got tons of "you're doing it wrong"s. Now you're abandoning ship?

Someone wasn't taught to ignore the bullies in grade school. Slashdot posters will hate on everyone's ideas and suggest even stupider ones, just to be funny/trollish. You must be pretty new here.

Re:You took slashdot comments seriously??? (5, Informative)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year ago | (#43863889)

Let me get this straight...

You didn't read the summary or the linked articles?

Here's what happened:
1) They had an idea they needed funding for to make it cloud-based
2) Based largely on Slashdot feedback, they realized that the cloud was a no-go because people wanted to run it on their own machines instead
3) So they killed they the Kickstarter funding to make it cloud based and instead are making it available now to run on your own gear

Re:You took slashdot comments seriously??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864585)

Let me get this straight....

You seriously have to ask if somebody read the article? On Slashdot?

Re:You took slashdot comments seriously??? (5, Insightful)

mtmra70 (964928) | about a year ago | (#43864687)

This was far more informative than the summary was.

Re:You took slashdot comments seriously??? (5, Interesting)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43864043)

Ha, no really, there were a lot of good points. I thought that the confusion as to what the core technology REALLY did, and the resistance to yet another cloud service/subscription really explained a lot of what I was seeing and hearing on Kickstarter. On Kickstarter, you hear from people who are excited, but very little from the 99% who don't decide to back you, they just wander off if they're not interested. Here on Slashdot, people were a lot more vocal.

I do get how unbelievably negative Slashdot can be. Take the first Slashdot story that ever covered Connectify. [slashdot.org] ... What did I get 200 comments on Connectify, probably all negative. But I got 20,000 downloads of the software in the 8 hours after the post went up. So it's not obvious from reading the discussion but there actually were 100x as many people who liked the idea, as hated it. (Oh and then we decided that this really could be company).

Re:You took slashdot comments seriously??? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864577)

Downloading something doesn't mean you like it. You may have just spurred enough curiosity, that's all. Not to mention how many of those downloads actually turned into installs that ever got any usage? I've downloaded tons of Linux distros just to try them out. Out of the 50 or so distros I've downloaded only 3 have ever made it past the LiveCD stage. Probably only 10 ever made it to the LiveCD stage. It's easy to get excited about and lose interest in free software, sometimes in the same breath.

In my rather limited experience with a few would-be-geeks, most production software is interesting but few ever actually use it but most have an opinion of it. It seems twisted and sad. That's because it is. But it still is the facts of the matter.

I'd be curious how many of the 20k downloads you got ever got beyond the download stage. My guess is less than 10%.

I don't understand why you blame slashdot... (0)

narfside (2936623) | about a year ago | (#43863825)

When you're are the person who made the choice to pull the plug on your own Kickstarter.

Re:I don't understand why you blame slashdot... (5, Informative)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43863905)

Ok, I got a little dramatic in the title of the post. Body is accurate though, I really did get a lot out of the discussion here. People thought it was just a load balancer, and everyone was very wary of yet another subscription. It was real feedback that helped explain a lot about what was going on with the campaign.

Re:I don't understand why you blame slashdot... (5, Interesting)

Chas (5144) | about a year ago | (#43864743)

Actually, I find this sort of encouraging.

There's a whole raft of companies out there that simply can't let go of The Vision. And absolutely MUST ram The Vision down everyone's throats.

It's rather refreshing to see a company stop, mid-stride, and re-evaluate a product and actually be willing to make a change like this.

To actually, y'know, LISTEN to feedback. Instead of bulling ahead and damn the torpedoes.

Or worse, making some a pointless token gesture. [slashdot.org]

Re:I don't understand why you blame slashdot... (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year ago | (#43863927)

Did you actually read more than just the title? The first two lines of the summary alone convey that the title is a little tongue-in-cheek and that he's actually appreciative of the feedback from Slashdot because it pointed them in a different (and likely more profitable) direction.

2 Questions for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863841)

Who do you think you are? What do you think you're doing?

Re:2 Questions for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863901)

Two more questions:

Who is your daddy and what does he do?
-- Ahnold

Re:2 Questions for you (2)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43864209)

Ok, what the hell. My father is Evangelos Gizis [cuny.edu] . He's an academic, who among other things has done stints as the President of Manhattan Community College, President of Hunter College, and Provost of Queens College. He still wishes I had taken school seriously and gotten a PhD.

Re:2 Questions for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864385)

Quit the name dropping, you're embarssing yourself.

Also, since it's "ask me anything", do these pants make my ass look fat?

Re:2 Questions for you (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864417)

My daddy's a gynecologist; he looks at vaginas all day long.

Re:2 Questions for you (0)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | about a year ago | (#43864569)

Old, gross, diseased vaginas. Seriously, it takes more gumption than I have to do that kind of work as a career. It's just a step above being a crime scene clean up crew.

You sure...? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864763)

Seems more like it IS a crime scene cleanup crew, only with all the post-mortem analysis of a coroner :)

Re:2 Questions for you (5, Interesting)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43864119)

More and more, I'm coming to think of myself as a guy who takes complex networking technology and tries to make it simple. I'm doing this because I want to give people not only faster internet access, but also free them from the companies that would control what we can do on the Internet connections that we're paying for. Well that's my big vision, mostly I answer emails, and wish I had more time to actually code.

Re:2 Questions for you (2)

jonathanjespersen (1162397) | about a year ago | (#43864453)

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

Re:2 Questions for you (1)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864565)

You are not the 6-fingered man!

Re:2 Questions for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864567)

You keep using that quote. I do not think it's as funny as you think it's funny.

no content (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863849)

Why is there no content in this article ? How hard can it be to do a 2 line summary of what the heck actually changed ?

Re:no content (5, Informative)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43863945)

Sorry, you're right. Here's what changed: Originally this was going to be cloud based service. We'd have servers all over the world, which would aggregate your connections for you to give you faster Internet. But people wanted to run it themselves. And once that happened, we realized that we might as well make it clear that Switchboard is really a VPN. So once you're running your own server, you can start sharing resources off your network with yourself, wherever you are.

Trying to understand (5, Insightful)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#43864381)

So, I think I get the point here.

I have multiple ISP's here (I use pfSense for load balancing) but I can't aggregate them for a single connection because I have multiple IP's and unicast doesn't work that way. So the cloud-hosted version would have allowed all my pipes to talk to your endpoint, which would give a single IP to the data-provider and then you could backhaul it over my multiple links. So, a multi-link VPN, right?

So, that sounds like it could be useful in some cases.

Now then, if I'm running my own server, where is it? If it's just here it doesn't do anything new, since I'm back to where I started. So, I can buy the software and then run it on a VPS provider or something?

Re:Trying to understand (5, Informative)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864669)

Dave from Connectify here. You hit it right on the head. The cloud-based service is still in consideration, but for the meantime everyone gets to run their own server. If you don't have access to one big pipe in a physical location, you can rent a VPS and spin up your own cloud server.

Kickstarter & Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863907)

Based on the new direction of Switchboard, do you prefer chocolate, strawberry of vanilla shakes?

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about a year ago | (#43864189)

If you're posting on slashdot you're used to swirlies!

Re:Kickstarter & Slashdot (2)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43864215)

Chocolate.

Seo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43863911)

This is very important post, Thanks

Stop feeding the trolls. (4, Funny)

steelfood (895457) | about a year ago | (#43863971)

Stop. You're giving people here a feeling of relevance. They might try to fight the RIAA/MPAA in court next, or come up with a new way to find extra-solar planets, or create new physics, or even run for public office.

Who knows what they might do with this new feeling of power? It's dangerous, and you need to stop encouraging this behavior right now!

Re:Stop feeding the trolls. (5, Funny)

pavon (30274) | about a year ago | (#43864109)

They might try to fight the RIAA/MPAA in court next, or come up with a new way to find extra-solar planets, or create new physics, or even run for public office.

No we won't. This just confirms our belief that complaining about problems on slashdot is all that is needed to make a difference.

Re:Stop feeding the trolls. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864387)

They might try to fight the RIAA/MPAA in court next, or come up with a new way to find extra-solar planets, or create new physics, or even run for public office.

No we won't. This just confirms our belief that complaining about problems on slashdot is all that is needed to make a difference.

See? That's exactly the sort of thing we need to stop before these people hurt themsel...

Aaaaaactually, on second thought, why not keep this up? After all, certain... "key elements" of Slashdot's comments do need encouragement to advance their suicidal... I mean, "difference-making" actions! Yeah! Keep it up! That'll make Slashdot a better place for all!

Re:Stop feeding the trolls. (3, Interesting)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43864293)

I felt like a lot people started off negative, but when I started actually answering, everyone seemed really well behaved. I was happy, I think that maybe more people from the stories should just jump into these conversations. In the end, I didn't have any bad "troll" experiences.

Linux Release (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864039)

I think you made the right choice in regards to your kickstarter campaign but at the same time I think we all knew you wouldn't reach your goal and had to rethink your strategy. No one can see a value in a monthly fee for something like this. My problem is you are releasing new software when I would be happy to give you money in exchange for Linux Dispatch. Do you still have the intention to release this for Linux or have you decided to move on to new products?

Re:Linux Release (2)

drfred79 (2936643) | about a year ago | (#43864187)

You can bond network interfaces moderately easy in Linux but I agree just for the sake of data overages with hotspots. I don't even run Windows so I could see myself purchasing Connectify's products.

Re:Linux Release (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864267)

Astroturfer! You created an account just to post that, tsk tsk.

Re:Linux Release (1)

drfred79 (2936643) | about a year ago | (#43864285)

Says the anon

Re:Linux Release (3, Funny)

drfred79 (2936643) | about a year ago | (#43864323)

I did create an account purely for this post because I've been wanting a Linux release of Dispatch for almost a year.

Re:Linux Release (5, Informative)

agizis (676060) | about a year ago | (#43864349)

Linux will be a supported platform for Switchboard. We did a much better job of building cross platform C++ with an HTML user interface from the ground up. Dispatch's a code has a lot of Windows specific stuff throughout it, the port would have be a new development effort almost from scratch. So I can't really say if Dispatch will really ever happen on other platforms (it could but... not soon, anyways).

Re:Linux Release (2)

drfred79 (2936643) | about a year ago | (#43864411)

Well thank you for the reply. Let's just mutually hope that Switchboard for Linux doesn't get in the way of the development of your next product does like your development of Dispatch for Linux did. About every article I read regarding Dispatch claimed in the near future that the Linux version would be released. I understand the products are similar but its disheartening to hear that was purely advertisement.

Re:Linux Release (1)

drfred79 (2936643) | about a year ago | (#43864457)

Might want to update your product FAQ as well to make it sound less like a development roadmap for Linux.

Re:Linux Release (4, Informative)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864633)

Dave from Connectify filling in for Alex here. Here's our Dispatch FAQ: http://www.connectify.me/dispatch-faq/ [connectify.me] . As you can see, Linux is behind Mac and Mac is a ways off. The benefit of Switchboard is that it can bond channels, so it can help every application you can think of, including those Dispatch can't (video streaming, file uploading, VPNs). We thought fixing all the complaints for Dispatch (supporting more applications AND more platforms) was a winning goal.

Re:Linux Release (1)

drfred79 (2936643) | about a year ago | (#43864847)

I'm happy to purchase any of your products. I want to optimize my various internet connections and set data limits. It just has to be released for Linux for me to do so. The second that happens I'm on your email blast lists and I have my credit card in hand.

You used C++? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864759)

Then nevermind, it appears you don't know what you are doing.

Hi Alex, (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864217)

Thanks for letting us ask you anything.

Can you please tell me if your switches uses quantitative balancing algorithms?

Thanks.

Re:Hi Alex, (5, Informative)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864533)

Hi, This is Dave, the lead developer on Switchboard. Alex had to step into a meeting, so I'll be sitting in for him for a bit. It's not exactly a switch in the traditional sense, but the Switchboard code takes into account bandwidth, latency and loss to decide which connection to send traffic over in a bonded channel. Thanks for the questions, and keep them coming! Dave

Slahdot didnt kill your kickstarter... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864221)

You did with a half assed and stupid idea no one wanted. You chose to throw together some junk project in the hopes of a quick cash grab and you failed at it. And to top it off you thought you could charge a monthly fee to rake in even more cash off KS suckers.

why non FOSS sofware? (2)

starworks5 (139327) | about a year ago | (#43864227)

I mean presumably you have to be charging for the severs, and now your asking for people to pay you to write software thats already working, so that you can continue to make money on the software, that eventually you may abandon sometime later if its unprofitable?

Step 1. GPL the client software

Step 2. GPL the server software (which is probably running linux).

Step 3. Offer a optional traffic package

Step 4. Ask for crowd funded money.

Re:why non FOSS sofware? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864503)

Because they'd actually like to pay their bills.

Re:why non FOSS sofware? (3, Interesting)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#43864729)

I concur. I use crowd funding or private funding (commission) to pay for my work and working expenses. Then the work I do belongs to the private company (unless open source, but they still get a copyright assignment if negotiated), or in the case of crowd funding my work belongs to the public at large, and they can use it for free. Instead of selling bits which are in infinite supply (and thus Economics 101 says have zero price regardless of cost to create), I simply do more work to get more money... The bits aren't valuable. The ability to configure the bits (do work) is valuable. Just like when I was an Electrician, or small engine Mechanic before that, or Home Builder before that, or Data Entry Clerk before that, or fast food Burger Flipper before that, or Pre-Teen Lawn Mowing service before that... It's a proven model. The Artificial Scarcity Racket of selling infinitely reproducible information is Evil and economically untenable. The model where you sell bits is DUMB. Stop it. It's simple: You want to do work and get paid for it? Then DO WORK, and get paid for it. For a model that works see: Car Mechanics or any other labor industry where an estimate is given, price agreed upon, work performed. It's not rocket science. I have no sympathy for fools.

Slashdot is full of old, angry sysadmins (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864241)

Why would you take any kind of advice from here? We just want you out of our damn yard, kid!

yuo 7ail 1t! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864255)

Re:yuo 7ail 1t! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864813)

If only you had formatted that as a question, he might have clicked it ...

No, this isn't reddit. (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | about a year ago | (#43864377)

But let's get the important question out of the way: would you rather fight 1 horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses?

Re:No, this isn't reddit. (4, Funny)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864593)

Who brings a duck to a horse fight?

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864619)

But let's get the important question out of the way: would you rather fight 1 horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses?

WTF does this even mean?

I'm so sick of the Redditisms and the banal mentality. Mobs lack intelligence and Reddit proves it.

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864761)

you are on the wrong subreddits. Stick to /r/technology

its good stuff.

Re:No, this isn't reddit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864707)

That is a difficult question. If I get a weapon, the duck. If not, the horses. Both seem terrifying.

Oblig (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864571)

In soviet russia, kickerstarter campaign kills YOU!

Truth About Switchboard (5, Informative)

sexconker (1179573) | about a year ago | (#43864607)

Just an FYI for everyone reading the terrible summary.

Switchboard was advertised as a "MAGIC OMG FASTER INNERNETS BECUZ POWER OF TEH CLOUD" thing.

What it actually was:

A VPN client that aggregated all internet-connected links you had, split up packets across all your pipes (you have to have multiple ISPs), and then sent them off to some server they leased which has a fatter pipe, reconstructed your packets from the split up packets, and then routed your traffic to its intended destination, and did the reverse for traffic going to you.

Re:Truth About Switchboard (5, Funny)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864691)

Dave from Connectify here. Right you are. The second description you gave is technically correct, but didn't have nearly the sizzle of your first!

Re:Truth About Switchboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864789)

If it's anything like the wifi connectify software, it will also annoy the living shit out of you by popping up dialogues about nonsense all the time while growing into bloatware. I had to uninstall it and live with out because it got so bad.

Still not... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864681)

You're still not communicating well. The announcement of the new thing doesn't seem to say what Switchboard does. A different link in this Slashdot summary does describe Switchboard as doing connection bonding, but does not seem to state what OSes it is for. I could not easily find that information on your website.

Re:Still not... (1)

lewdavis (2450904) | about a year ago | (#43864727)

Dave from Connectify here filling in for Alex during a brief meeting. The Switchboard product page is http://www.connectify.me/switchboard/ [connectify.me] . Please let us know if you have any questions after viewing that page.

Re:Still not... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864837)

"Please enable Javascript to browse this website."

F.U. no.

Forcing potential customers - especially technically-literate potential customers - to allow crap scripting so they can read text is a NonStarter.

Still don't quite get it (2)

fa2k (881632) | about a year ago | (#43864785)

I hope the slashdot crowd puts their money where their mouth is then. It's a good idea, VPNs are always a hassle to set up and tune, so this would be welcome. I wonder, though, if "normal" people will try out this... On the other side, if you went the cloud route, you'd be the ten thousandth or so VPN provider, with only performance to differentiate the product. And you may even have lost out on performance, despite the channel bonding, if the competitors had servers all over the world.

I think there is hope for both business plans. The personal VPN server market hasn't been cracked yet. There was Hamachi, but it was bought by some company and not much happened. OpenVPN is as hard to set up as ever. NAT and firewalls mean that you need layers of fallback for reliable operation. I would suggest making a Linux version with low system requirements, in addition to the "Enterprise" linux version, because linux users will be overrepresented in the group of people who run always-on systems at home, and it could also run on VPSs. The enterprise VPN market is quite crowded, I can't say anything about how that will go. The hosted VPN market is equally crowded, but there is also a huge demand, partly because of inane geo-IP restrictions on various services. You'd have to sell it on speed, and speed is very much key for things like video on demand. I'm not sure about the value of channel bonding for personal use, as for many people their home connection or even courtesy wi-fi at coffee shps is significantly faster than the mobile connection, so switching to wi-fi when possible should give good speed and less monetary cost. This feature would be brilliant for enterprise systems though.

Re:Still don't quite get it (1)

fa2k (881632) | about a year ago | (#43864861)

I should add a disclaimer, I will not be buying this for a while, because I only use Linux. I will keep it in mind. And it's very cool that companies listen to the users (hopefully) and make better (or at least different) products

Further Questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43864843)

When last Connectify appeared on Slashdot, I stopped reading the moment I saw the word cloud. Now Connectify is back and it's completely different, but is it really?

I'm looking to Alex to clarify my understanding of this, but if I understand correctly, the Connectify "client" must connect to a Connectify server in order for it all to work. So, does the client require multiple internet connections to a Connectify server(mine?) with very high speed internet and or multiple internet connections? If not, doesn't the client's single internet connection to the server not become the bottleneck and if so, what's the point?

Finally, there seems to be harping on the ability to improve streaming performance. How does that work? Even if both client and server have multiple internet connections being bonded/multiplexed channels Netflix, for example, is only going to offer a single connection for the stream's origination, again choking down your connection to a single TCP stream over a single internet connection, which my Connectify server will then needlessly split into a bonded connection.

The only situation where I can see value in this is where my server has a highspeed internet connection and my client is only able to get multiple low speed internet connections which Connectify then multiplexes. Thus the 10Mbps Netflix tream hits my Connectify server and the client receives the stream over 8 xDSL connections. This sounds exactly like Multilink Point-to-Point Protocol(MLPPP) circa 1996. [ietf.org]

What am I missing?

Dude, you got a communication problem. (0)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year ago | (#43864845)

To half of us slashtards here, you seem a whiny half-grown-up. To the other half, it is not fully intelligible what goal exactly you are trying to reach . For the potential future CEO of an internet company, that is a bad start. Get yourself a business angel, work hard and stop embarrassingly mentioning who your father is. I mean it. Stop whining and work hard.
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