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Buy the WarGames IMSAI 8080 and Possibly Impress Ally Sheedy

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the do-you-want-to-play-a-game? dept.

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ilikenwf writes "Todd Fischer, the man behind this iconic prop from WarGames, the movie that spawned countless hackers, has come forward recently to announce its sale in the near future. Interestingly enough, the IMSAI 8080 still works, although the disk drive was damaged in shipping after the movie's conclusion, and was trashed."

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Fags (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118389)

This site is filled with fags and virgin fags.

Re:Fags (0, Offtopic)

Shikaku (1129753) | about a year ago | (#44118391)

Says the anon posting in it..

Re:Fags (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118425)

Scotus strikes down laws that penalize and cast doubt on the legitimacy of gay marriage!

Re:Fags (-1, Offtopic)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44118565)

This is Slashdot, not the Supreme Court. Slashdot has no power over the law. At most, some of the views expressed here might influence some voters that visit here for technology news and discussion, and that is it. If you want to complain about the decision, here is the place to go:

Supreme Court of the United States [supremecourt.gov]

If you don't like the status of the law, take it up with your legislators. If you want to comment on that policy, there is another active discussion on that subject. You should post there. Complaining here in this story on that subject is useless and annoying, and complaining on Slashdot won't change anything.

Re:Fags (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119043)

I am the law.

Re:Fags (2, Insightful)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44118631)

You do realize that you are hurling invective about gays in a story centered around a young man trying to impress a pretty young lady, and which contained some innocent but sexually charged moments between them? That isn't really a gay theme. When you went to post you could have made a useful comment. Instead you blew past useful, past useless, to stupid and ironic. That isn't a good practice in life.

Re:Fags (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118653)

So which are you?

Re:Fags (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118785)

The guy who plowed your dad repeatedly in the prison showers while he was sucking Bubba's dick.

Re:Fags (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44120775)

So.. that's why you're here? Kindreded spirits and all?

it's - its (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118397)

Slashdot editors? I don't think so...

Anything to PROVE it's the one? (3, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year ago | (#44118423)

Honestly if it does not have the full paperwork and possibly all the actors signing the lid back then, it could be ANY Altair8080

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118517)

Matthew Broderick's used load of tissues is included, he left them after looking at monochromatic porn of your mom.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (0)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year ago | (#44118623)

Matthew Broderick's used load of tissues is included, he left them after looking at monochromatic porn of your mom.

Is monochromatic as far back as you can remember? It was probably ASCII porn downloaded at 300 or 1200 baud, so it could be time to reach for the tissues before the picture even finished downloading.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118797)

Is monochromatic as far back as you can remember? It was probably ASCII porn downloaded at 300 or 1200 baud, so it could be time to reach for the tissues before the picture even finished downloading.

Tissues? How do you wipe off the ceiling with tissues?

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (-1, Offtopic)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year ago | (#44119033)

Is monochromatic as far back as you can remember? It was probably ASCII porn downloaded at 300 or 1200 baud, so it could be time to reach for the tissues before the picture even finished downloading.

Tissues? How do you wipe off the ceiling with tissues?

Mom gets upset when I leave stains on the ceiling so I have to stand on the bed and wipe it off.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (-1, Offtopic)

JWSmythe (446288) | about a year ago | (#44119081)

Didn't she complain about you standing on her bed last time? At least that's what she told me when I came over to service her. :)

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119255)

Dude, I don't print my ASCII porn in color.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (2)

Nyder (754090) | about a year ago | (#44118525)

Honestly if it does not have the full paperwork and possibly all the actors signing the lid back then, it could be ANY Altair8080

I don't think that will stop anyone. I'm not familiar with movie prop collecting, but it seems it would be hard to probably prove most the stuff was actually a prop that was used.

Plus it's not like this guy just suddenly appeared and is claiming it's the computer. This guy was there from the beginning. Try reading this link:
http://www.imsai.net/movies/wargames.htm [imsai.net]

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (2)

tlhIngan (30335) | about a year ago | (#44119641)

I don't think that will stop anyone. I'm not familiar with movie prop collecting, but it seems it would be hard to probably prove most the stuff was actually a prop that was used.

Plus it's not like this guy just suddenly appeared and is claiming it's the computer. This guy was there from the beginning. Try reading this link:
http://www.imsai.net/movies/wargames.htm [imsai.net]

Depends on the prop. Special props made just for the show have distinguishing features that often show it's made for TV (usually poor quality, looks like crap up close, etc).

But without official paperwork showing it was used in the movie, or some way to tie it to the movie (if the prop has distinguishing marks that positively identify that one unit to the movie), it is effectively worthless.

At best, an undocumented prop should be sold as a "prop replica" if there's nothing to trace it directly back. Of course, unscrupulous sellers will sell it as a official prop.

The way to document it would be to have its serial number recorded by a third party which can be cross-correlated with this unit. Or an official purchase invoice that shows the buyer as the studio and the serial number. Alternatively, since he's kept it all this time, he could include shots and other stuff and a notarized letter saying it's from the movie and what his credentials are in relation to the movie.

All this only really matters if you want to resell it or send it to a museum and want to get more than what retail would get. It's all about provenance.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (1)

adolf (21054) | about a year ago | (#44119693)

Did you, you know, try reading the link?

I did. Years and years ago. It's a lovely story about a prop computer that actually was a real computer, from the horse's mouth.

Paperwork? The dude who built it is the dude who's selling it. WTF else do you want?

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (2)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44121007)

but it seems it would be hard to probably prove most the stuff was actually a prop that was used

Not really. The prop people usually get credits in the movie. And if the guy selling it has some sort of paper trail to the prop people or prop company credited in the movie (or better yet, he worked for them), it's pretty straightforward to demonstrate a highly likely case for authenticity. And reading the article, it looks like the person selling it had well-established ties to Mike Fink, the FX supervisor for the film.

The fact that this is being auctioned off by Christie's indicates that they have made a pretty solid connection too. You can bet that Christie's researches their items pretty carefully before putting their name behind it.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (3, Informative)

anasciiman (528060) | about a year ago | (#44118761)

It's an IMSAI not an Altair. Different critters entirely.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (4, Funny)

_merlin (160982) | about a year ago | (#44119075)

Insightful? The guy doesn't even know the difference between an Altair and an IMSAI!

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44119457)

I suppose you could say that when it comes to CP/M, he isn't really a CompuPro, thank Godbout.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44122641)

I suppose you could say that when it comes to CP/M, he isn't really a CompuPro, thank Godbout.

*groan* This is how us old guys recognize each other. If a machine ever hopes to pass the Turing test, it'll also need a chronological index of everything it knows.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119743)

It has ALL the original paperwork, shipping and receiving invoices, etc. It's the real deal!

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44122343)

It's an imsai and people have been paying attention to where it's been.. which is with this guy. He could be pulling a switcheroo but.

Re:Anything to PROVE it's the one? (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about a year ago | (#44122925)

it could be ANY Altair8080

Ummm... no.

.
An Altair 8080 is a different computer entirely.

Forget that shit, I want... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118493)

...the WOPR!!!!

Re:Forget that shit, I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44120143)

...the WOPR!!!!

That's what I assumed they were talking about when I read the summary. Don't know why they downmodded you for having the expected thought. Solid 3.

Re:Forget that shit, I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44121159)

He wasn't downmodded. At the time of writing this, he was upmodded +1 Underrated.

But it's not the WOPR! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118503)

Now THAT would be the bit of movie gear to have! :-)

Re:But it's not the WOPR! (4, Interesting)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44118641)

But it's not the WOPR! Now THAT would be the bit of movie gear to have! :-)

It would be, but if I recall correctly it was only a prop wired for lights. Still, it would fun to have that in a data center, especially if its one that people tour.

Re:But it's not the WOPR! (2)

JWSmythe (446288) | about a year ago | (#44119095)

I'd *LOVE* to move it in to my datacenter. It might be a hard sell for the boss though..

    "So I have this really cool piece of IT history, we just need to move that row a few feet over. It shouldn't involve too much downtime." :)

Re:But it's not the WOPR! (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44119103)

My recollection was correct. There is quite a bit about the prop WOPR design and construction down a bit on this web page [imsai.net] .
 

Re:But it's not the WOPR! (1)

slew (2918) | about a year ago | (#44119917)

But it's not the WOPR! Now THAT would be the bit of movie gear to have! :-)

It would be, but if I recall correctly it was only a prop wired for lights. Still, it would fun to have that in a data center, especially if its one that people tour.

As I recall, that although the WOPR (like other movie computers of that era) was basically a prop with dancing stereo equalizer lights for cinematic effect, I think there was actually an Apple ][ inside controlling an experimental flat panel display on the side.

To heck with the WOPR! (3, Funny)

tlambert (566799) | about a year ago | (#44120015)

To heck with the WOPR!

I want that acoustic coupled modem that was capable of autodialing! That's technology indistinguishable from magic, baby!

Re:To heck with the WOPR! (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about a year ago | (#44122605)

Even as a 4 year old watching the movie I was confused about that...

Re:But it's not the WOPR! (2)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44121027)

Apparently, it was scrapped [imsai.net] . Keep in mind, that was back in the days when movie props weren't considered particularly valuable assets. Today, they would probably do some sort of auction or at least warehouse it.

Déjà Vu (5, Funny)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44118529)

The only way to win the auction is to not place any bid.

Re:Déjà Vu (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118721)

nice....

Ally Sheedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118549)

is old now.

pass.

Re:Ally Sheedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118917)

... but still younger than me - I'm hoping my fully functional Johnny Five will impress her...

Re:Ally Sheedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118937)

only $865 in lots of 25 [robotshop.com]

Re:Ally Sheedy (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44121055)

She's also kind of nuts these days. Not completely Sean-Young-level-batshit-crazy, but definitely not the kind of person you would probably want to have to live with. Pretty common with aging actresses, unfortunately. There is nothing more unstable than a narcissistic actress going through fame withdrawls and hearing the word "No" for the first time in years.

Re:Ally Sheedy (2)

technothrasher (689062) | about a year ago | (#44121649)

> There is nothing more unstable than a narcissistic actress going through fame withdrawls and hearing the word "No" for the first time in years.

You obviously know nothing about the woman. I happen to be good friends with her sister, and this description is not even close. She's far from narcissistic, and she basically quit the whole industry years ago because she didn't want the fame and simply wished to quietly live in peace.

Re:Ally Sheedy (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44122289)

And you obviously haven't seen just about any interview she's done in the last 15 years, or her appearance on just about any award show.

Re:Ally Sheedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44121107)

Yes, but so am I, and she still looks hot to me.

Disk drives (2)

Captain_Cozmic (828225) | about a year ago | (#44118551)

Wonder if it's an 8" floppy drive. I still have a few of those sitting around that work. And we used to think that a SSSD disk with 241K was something. Or that DSDD with almost 1 Meg was a wonder to behold. Unless it was one of the new Seagate 5 MB hard drives. Think they used to sell for around $1200 at the time.

Re:Disk drives (4, Informative)

d'baba (1134261) | about a year ago | (#44118647)

The drives are 8" Calcomp pizza ovens. These were the original drives for the IMSAI 8080. We sold them along with the 8080 kits.

Hi, Todd! Good luck on the auction.

Re:Disk drives (2)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44118779)

On the IMSAI [imsai.net] web site they have a "garage sale" listing at the bottom of the page. They list both 8" and 5 1/4" drives. You might even be able to get 3.5" drives working with it. I seem to recall reading about some CP/M system mods for other systems that would allow that.

Re:Disk drives (5, Informative)

d'baba (1134261) | about a year ago | (#44118829)

The later IMSAI models ran the Calcomp and PerSci 8" drives along with the 5.25 and 3.5 sizes. Also, around the time the VDP-80 with 8085 boards replacing the 8080's saw a Rob Barnaby, et. al. rewrite of CP/M which we called and shipped as IMDOS.

Re:Disk drives (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44118907)

Sounds like that would make for a fairly powerful CP/M system even if not up the SB-180 levels. I think that would probably fun to play with, and useful to boot.

Re:Disk drives (1)

fyngyrz (762201) | about a year ago | (#44119685)

and useful to boot.

Well, face it, it won't be very useful if you don't boot it...

Re:Disk drives (1)

co1d fjord (2956633) | about a year ago | (#44120707)

pesronally i think that old computers are stupid. and anyone who wants to have an old computer that works and to use it as a computers is stupid. if you use it as a fishbowel or a toilet that i would understand. but otherwise just stupid.

Re:Disk drives (0)

dcw3 (649211) | about a year ago | (#44122033)

pesronally i think that old computers are stupid. and anyone who wants to have an old computer that works and to use it as a computers is stupid. if you use it as a fishbowel or a toilet that i would understand. but otherwise just stupid.

Personally, I think anyone who thinks what the parent thinks is stupid. An old computer that works can still be used as a basic tool. We still have an old 386 that takes inventory for a lab. Why update it? It's not on a network...no malware concern...no software updates necessary. Should we go blow a few hundred bucks on a new PC that will require additional hundreds in IT support? I don't think so.

I personally own some old working TI calculators (see http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/texas_instruments_2500.html [vintagecalculators.com] ). They work, should I throw them away?

Re:Disk drives (2)

Megane (129182) | about a year ago | (#44118659)

I used to work on the computer of a place back in the day. They had a TRS-80 Model II which ran CP/M. It had a 5 megabyte hard drive. The hard drive was split into 4 partitions.

A strange game (1)

Roachie (2180772) | about a year ago | (#44118609)

... the only winning move is to not bid.

ask the gold and silver pawn shop to make an offer (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year ago | (#44118665)

ask the gold and silver pawn shop to make an offer.

Why do you repeat your subject in the body? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118749)

Why do you repeat your subject in the body?

It could (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119037)

be worse.

How much for Ally Sheedy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118711)

How much for Ally Sheedy?

She's more than a woman. More than a woman to me.

Re:How much for Ally Sheedy? (2)

Gothmolly (148874) | about a year ago | (#44118751)

WARNING GOATSE!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118861)

Do not follow that link! The image will haunt you for the rest of your life. You have been warned.

Re:How much for Ally Sheedy? (1)

wildstoo (835450) | about a year ago | (#44121861)

You still would though. You know you would.

How about Jodie Foster? (1)

TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) | about a year ago | (#44118863)

Obligatory, really.

Re:How about Jodie Foster? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119261)

Only if she is disrobed, immobile, with a bowl of hot soup.

Wait... is that right? Doh!

Re:How about Jodie Foster? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119987)

Obligatory, really.

1. You didn't shave your head into a Mohawk to impress her did you?
2. She probably doesn't swing that way...

Re:How about Jodie Foster? (1)

TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) | about a year ago | (#44120879)

FWIW just a few seconds after posted it, I flagged my own comment here as being in poor taste.

Re:How about Jodie Foster? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44121069)

If you think THAT'S poor taste, try going down on Jodie Foster sometime.

Got one right now downstairs. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44118947)

hmm, I still have one I cut my programming chops on right now. Initially programmed with the switches on the front, then a teletype 33. Added northstar DOS and a disk drive and I was rocking. Great bit of history.

No thanks. (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#44118981)

Have you seen Ally Sheedy recently? I'm not saying she's had a lot of work, but when she smiles, her face squeaks.

I'd rather have... (2)

Horshu (2754893) | about a year ago | (#44119035)

Wyatt's computer from "Weird Science".

Ebay... (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about a year ago | (#44119121)

The only way to win is not to play.

Re:Ebay... (4, Funny)

Richy_T (111409) | about a year ago | (#44119139)

Ug. Not even second with that. Mod me to obscurity, please...

Re:Ebay... (1)

slothman32 (629113) | about a year ago | (#44119815)

I can't mod but I did give a chuckle.

Who's Ally Sheedy? (1)

GoChickenFat (743372) | about a year ago | (#44119129)

If you're the gray haired guy looking for a job or the kid's giving him advice you've probably never heard of her.

keep your marbles (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#44119247)

I want the computer from Eagle Eye. Aria, I think her name was.

"Operation Guillotine is in effect."

Ooh, that sounds like a new sig happening right there.

Ok so you impress Ally Sheedy but (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119257)

will you get laid by her?

Besides the PC from Electric Dreams would be so much better.Virginia Madsen is so much hotter.

Re:Ok so you impress Ally Sheedy but (1)

lxs (131946) | about a year ago | (#44120633)

Who cares? You'll get to hang out with a guy who flies RC pterodactyl gliders.

Somebody is out of touch with reality. (5, Informative)

ChrisKnight (16039) | about a year ago | (#44119371)

From the linked article: "It is currently appraised at over $25,000, potentially making it the most expensive "personal computer" ever!"

There's an Apple I up for auction that is expected to haul in half a million.

Re:Somebody is out of touch with reality. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119733)

And that Apple One was in WHAT movie?

Re:Somebody is out of touch with reality. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44120531)

And that Apple One was in WHAT movie?

couple of documents.

besides, you can spec up a brand new apple at 25k$..
but more than that.. 1987 you could buy a 386dx for 10 grand of 1987 cash as starting price(and double it with addons).

that's not to say anything about next, sgi etc computers.

Re:Somebody is out of touch with reality. (1)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year ago | (#44121329)

This topic reminds me of an old "SoftSide" article about a TRS-80 (4K, Level 1) that provided some "computer console" effects for Star Trek : The Motion Picture.

The $44,000 Star Trek! Game [archive.org] ( [sic] - the article's title does have the exclamation point, and the program is not really a game)

Program listing included. Some conversion will probably be needed for your new IMSAI, but I can't say for sure.

Re:Somebody is out of touch with reality. (5, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44120861)

There's an Apple I up for auction that is expected to haul in half a million.

That's nothing. You should see what they want for the latest Mac Pro.

Just checked with Justin Long and John Hodgman (1)

EGenius007 (1125395) | about a year ago | (#44120889)

And was informed that a Mac is not a PC.

Re:Just checked with Justin Long and John Hodgman (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44121685)

And was informed that a Mac is not a PC.

and apple 1 is not a mac and neither that or imsai 8080 are ibm pc's.
personal computers anyways.

you could spec a more expensive ibm pc quite easily though.

It's "its" (0)

Thrill Science (2845693) | about a year ago | (#44119601)

C'mon /. Why are we paying for professional curation and moderation when you can't spell "its?"

Might not be the original (1)

kbsoftware (1000159) | about a year ago | (#44119879)

I've been reading a few comments else where that this is not the original. The original was destroyed and another was built for some commercials and the second movie. I found an image from the original movie and looking at the image on the website they do look a bit different. Even so would be cool to have the WOPR instead :) http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/WarGames-Sheedy-and-Broderick-on-computer.jpg [collider.com]

Re:Might not be the original (1)

lxs (131946) | about a year ago | (#44120671)

I think you'll find that there is no such thing as a second Wargames movie. It's a myth like the sequels to the Matrix and the Star Wars prequels.

Re:Might not be the original (1)

kannibal_klown (531544) | about a year ago | (#44120983)

LOL. Yeh.

I mean, it was neat to see them fire up the old WOPR again towards the end. And Claudia Black's voice was cool for the new computer.

But beyond that, it was hardly a worthy sequel to such a classic.

Re:Might not be the original (1)

Custard Horse (1527495) | about a year ago | (#44121237)

They made a sequel? I'll file that one next to Highlander 2 and Escape from L.A.

Re:Might not be the original (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44121847)

No, it wasn't as good as Highlander 2 was as a sequel.

editorial fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44119937)

Really, why do you even think you're needed if you're going to be like this?

It's missing the sticker (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44121289)

If you look at the shot from the movie, there's a giant sticker on it. It's not on the one you can buy. It's not the same unit.

I've got one of those (1)

RobertNotBob (597987) | about a year ago | (#44121533)

I still have one of those, - I even still have the outer case (and docs) for it.

I never did have any disk drives for it; I had to reenter the code every time I turned it on.

...

I've always credited it (we call it Blinky, BTW... since that's all it does) with my career in IT. - My dad was the first guy in the neighborhood with an actual computer and I was writing assembler code in 1978. I learned two things:1) digital processing was the wave of the future, and 2) I didn't want to be a programmer (I'm a network security engineer). - But of course, if you've ever done assembler code by switching 8 toggles up and down to form Hex instructions one-by-one, you'll understand.

I was keeping it purely for sentimental reasons... but if this guy builds a furver for it... maybe I finally get the infamous DotDotDot :

1- get a computer in grade school

2- build a career in IT

3) ...

4) Profit!

:)

I'd want the WOPR or nothing. (1)

BetaDays (2355424) | about a year ago | (#44122053)

Yep.
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<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>