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156 comments

He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (-1, Flamebait)

maroberts (15852) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137219)

I'll get my coat

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (5, Insightful)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137239)

She, and show some respect. Honestly I hope I'm active enough at 73 to go cruising around the world in my yacht.

I just hope (1)

maroberts (15852) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137269)

I'll have a yacht.

Anyway personally speaking I'd rather go out with a smile and a laugh than sobbing hordes.

Re:I just hope (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137317)

pretty sure he wasn't smiling once his GPS fucked up.

Especially when (1)

maroberts (15852) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137331)

she finds out I used to write marine GPS software...

Re:I just hope (1)

D'Sphitz (699604) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139101)

Anyway personally speaking I'd rather go out with a smile and a laugh than sobbing hordes.

I'm not an expert, but I guess it's plausible that extreme dehydration while baking in the sun could cause your skin to tighten, receding your lips and exposing your teeth. That's the only scenario I can imagine where someone who is lost at sea would die smiling and laughing.

Re:I just hope (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139501)

It is possible to die really fast when crossing the ditch.

Re:I just hope (0)

Larryish (1215510) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139325)

I want to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandma did, not screaming in terror like all the passengers in her yacht.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137311)

She, and show some respect. Honestly I hope I'm active enough at 73 to go cruising around the world in my yacht.

You'll be active enough - now whether or not you can afford to live let alone a yacht is another story.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (0, Flamebait)

loufoque (1400831) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137945)

A woman doing Unix stuff in the sixties/seventies? Did she have a beard?

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138583)

She, and show some respect. Honestly I hope I'm active enough at 73 to go cruising around the world in my yacht.

And if I'm going to die at 73, dying at sea while yachting sounds preferable to a slow decline while bedridden, just waiting for death to come to let me escape a life I no longer want.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138965)

Respect for what? People need to earn respect, they don't just get it because they are still alive.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (1)

D'Sphitz (699604) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139149)

People need to earn respect

Wow that's pretty insightful. Or I guess it could just be a tired, bullshit cliché used to justify treating people like shit and generally being an asshole. Naw, it's both brilliant and insightful, well done!

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139407)

It's not being an asshole, it's being smart. I don't trust or respect anyone until they have earned it from me and I expect the reverse to be true as well. That goes for anyone, including family.

Re: He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139579)

a) I'm sure your family simply adores you, and b) she's earned our collective respect by writing one of the preeminent guides on Unix system administration. Additionally, I have a strong personal dislike for you and would gladly send you out to sea in exchange.

Re: He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44140027)

Sure, anyone who I have gained respect from adores me, some family included.

There is no "collective respect". Respect is earned or granted on an individual basis. As far as I'm concerned, she's just some woman who got lost at sea. Maybe you should have gone along with your idol.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137313)

I bet his family is running "whereis nemeth" a few times every day

Rawr (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137255)

Must have found Jurassic Park and forgot his Unix book :(

Re:Rawr (4, Informative)

rubycodez (864176) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137301)

wow, everyone assumes she is a dude because only guys would know how to write Unix and Linux sysadmin books? She also held PHD in mathematics and worked in projects to bring the internet to developing countries.

Now she's bringing the internet... (1)

maroberts (15852) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137325)

..... to the fithes!

Re:Rawr (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137347)

Sorry for hurting your feelings because I didn't look into who she really was before making a joke. And Evi is a foreign first name from my nationality, so I didn't check gender. Loosen up. It's Friday

Re:Rawr (1)

rubycodez (864176) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137551)

It's really another form of Eva or Eve.

Re:Rawr (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138075)

You are too fucking stupid to actually click on the link labeled with her name.

Re:Rawr (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138203)

Or maybe he just didn't care you fucking imbecile.

Re:Rawr (4, Funny)

Victor_0x53h (1164907) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137415)

I thought a beard was required, that's how misinformed I am!

Re:Rawr (0)

Farmer Tim (530755) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137525)

That's two unfair stereotypes. Some women have beards.

Re:Rawr (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137607)

That's two unfair stereotypes. Some women have beards.

No problem. Ancient Egyptian queens solved this by means of a strap-on.

Re:Rawr (5, Funny)

Farmer Tim (530755) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137673)

And they were familiar with eunuchs commands.

Re:Rawr (1)

Iniamyen (2440798) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138205)

Damn you, keyboard ruined and such.

Re:Rawr (0)

rubycodez (864176) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137609)

most have bearded clams, even if they shave them

Re:Rawr (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139431)

It is and it must be grown on the neck in a futile attempt to hide the fat rolls and make it look like they still have a chin.

Re:Rawr (2, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137487)

wow, everyone assumes she is a dude because only guys would know how to write Unix and Linux sysadmin books?

No, it's a reasonable assumption given the actual Unix writer demographics and given the somewhat non-descript first name. Or is it that whenever you hear the word "nurse", you immediately and involuntarily imagine a guy in 50% of the cases because you're perfectly gender-balanced and oh-so-detached from reality?

RTFM (3, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137705)

No, it's a reasonable assumption given the actual Unix writer demographics and given the somewhat non-descript first name.

But absolute proof that a poster hasn't clicked on any of the links in the story --- all three of which describe Evi as female and the Wikipedia bio including a photograph.

Re:RTFM (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138009)

But absolute proof that a poster hasn't clicked on any of the links in the story --- all three of which escribe Evi as female and the Wikipedia bio including a photograph.

Around here, that's less heinous than not having Evi's book on a cherished spot in your library.

Re:Rawr (1)

jschrod (172610) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139287)

You don't know who Emi Nemeth was? But, you have a /. uid under 1,000,000? Who did you kill for that?

Anybody who's been around as long as you've supposed to be on this site and haven't heard about or read a book from Evi, is suspect.

How's PRISM going, Sir?

Re:Rawr (1)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137799)

Her Linux Administration Handbook (2nd Edition) was my first college textbook on the subject and I still have it.

It really is a pretty good text book. Even if it is bright purple with cartoon giraffes pondering 1337ness.

Re:Rawr (1)

djh101010 (656795) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137955)

Purple? Newb...it's red. No, green. Wait, I'll come in again.

Re:Rawr (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137949)

No, everyone is assuming you'd be a dude because... well it's a book about being a sysadmin. It's been years since I had a female on my team who was a sysadmin.

Business Analyst? All the time. QA Tester? Pretty frequent. DBA, sure. Developer? Sometimes. Sysadmin? Rare.

Authoritative sysadmin who writes books? Unicorn.

Sure, they probably have to exist, but you'll excuse me if in this case, the assumption appears based more on experience than sexism.

And, I shit you not, the last time I talked to someone who looked female and was a sysadmin, they were actually not born female. Not a problem, except it quickly answered my questions about what prompted her to become a sysadmin.

Re:Rawr (1)

CrankyFool (680025) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138013)

I'm surprised no one has trotted out the obvious Trinity quote yet.

Re:Rawr (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138185)

Maybe its because the *vast* majority of Western IT people are male?

Naa, couldnt be that....

Re:Rawr (1)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138193)

I kind of though Evi was a strange name for a dude.

Re:Rawr (1)

Culture20 (968837) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139007)

Naw, it's because Evi is such a masculine name, like Sally, Mary, or Petunia.

% [Where is Eve Nemeth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137277)

Missing ].

Mithing? Blame the Evil Nemethith (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137281)

Thith ith in very poor tathte. I'm tho very thorry.

Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137333)

Really - I can't be the only one.

Have they tried putting a picture on milk cartons?

find /ocean *evi* (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137337)

find /ocean -name *evi*

Re:find /ocean *evi* (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137777)

You'd want to use '*evi*' (with the ticks) to prevent the shell from doing the globbing already.

Alternate Explanation (0)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137345)

Perhaps she's trying to actually read the UNIX and Linux System Administration Handbook (which, ironically, has a picture of an overburdened sailing ship on the cover... foreshadowing?).

I'd probably be missing for a few weeks, too.

All kidding aside, I hope for the best, and if the worst be the case, I hope she went smiling.

Re:Alternate Explanation (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137401)

foreshadowing?

What's really eerie is the coffin marked 'more' [amazon.com] right above her name.

Re:Alternate Explanation (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138315)

Is that guy in the boat in the background flipping everyone else off? What's he, an Apple user?

Re:Alternate Explanation (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138377)

Is that guy in the boat in the background flipping everyone else off? What's he, an Apple user?

No, the Apple user is taking a crap on the desk. That guy is a VMS user.

Re:Alternate Explanation (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137511)

All kidding aside, I hope for the best, and if the worst be the case, I hope she went smiling.

She's laughing at us while sipping coffee with Jim Gray on some remote island.

Re:Alternate Explanation (1)

Beezlebub33 (1220368) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138463)

Seriously, it makes me wonder if either: 1. this sort of thing (getting lost at sea) happens more often than we realize; or, 2) well known computer science types are more likely to have this happen to them.

I hereby vow not to become famous in computer science and then go boating. Thus far, I'm solving this problem through not being famous.

Re:Alternate Explanation (1)

dshk (838175) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138643)

Looking at the book cover carefully, I believe she is actually depicted on it. Not on the forward big ship, but on the small ship going away in the background. She mentions in the book that this is the last edition for her, because nowdays she spend most of her time on a sailing ship where she only has a 30 (or 300?) baud radio connection.

Tragedy (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137349)

That really sucks.
I'm currently doing Systems Administration in Antarctica. I got my first professional network administration job in Boulder, around the time that the "Yellow book" came out (2nd Ed. of the "UNIX Systems Administration Handbook," Nemeth, Snyder, Hein, et al.). The book got me boostrapped for work in NeXT and SunOS administration. I've been to six continents, and have worked in IT for 20+ years. I owe a lot of my life's earnings and experiences to what I learned in Nemeth's texts.
Godspeed, Evi.

Re:Tragedy (1)

Mike Frett (2811077) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137667)

Antarctica?!? Jeepers H Snowballs...guess you don't have to worry about the Servers overheating eh. Interestingly enough, Antarctica has about 5,000 people living there. Yeah it's a tragedy, I'd like to say that I hope they are found; but after all this time I fear the worst.

Re:Tragedy (2)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138327)

They even have their own disc golf course [dgcoursereview.com] .

Re:Tragedy (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137739)

Well, at least next year's students don't need to worry about having to buy new versions of the college textbook . . .

What, too soon?

Re:Tragedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137885)

UNAVCO says hi!

Re:Tragedy (1)

Fzz (153115) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138467)

Evi: desperately hoping you're in a life raft somewhere and will get to laugh your laugh at some of the kids posting here today. A great big IETF hug to you, wherever you are.

Re:Tragedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138777)

You lucky, lucky sod. That's something I'd love to do. Unfortunately, I'll never get the chance...

Lost (5, Funny)

lorinc (2470890) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137357)

When working on Unix systems, it is easy to get lost at C. Let's hope she'll hack her way to the coast.

Re:Lost (1)

c0lo (1497653) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138325)

When working on Unix systems, it is easy to get lost at C.

Casts in C are indeed dangerous. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Re:Lost (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139577)

Cast away.

She thought it was a 3-hour tour (4, Funny)

Spy Handler (822350) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137395)

a 3-hour tour

Re:She thought it was a 3-hour tour (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137431)

A 3-hour Whore?

Well, I guess if the lady wants to be serviced, it's her money.

Woosh (1)

maroberts (15852) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137471)

Someone not aware of Gilligans Island?

Re:Woosh (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137553)

Kids are growing up without a distinct lack of culture these days.

Re:Woosh (1)

neminem (561346) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137685)

Any references to that theme song just get Stairway to Heaven [wikipedia.org] stuck my head. It's much better that way.

Re:Woosh (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138399)

Overnegation!

Re:Woosh (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138619)

How exactly did the Skipper and the Professor control themselves?

The Millionaire could diddle his wife, and Gilligan was Satan, but c'mon Skipper, you know banging Ginger while the Professor T-bags Mary Anne is going to happen.

Mixed metaphors (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138139)

Wikipedia says her luxury yacht was named "Nina", which might sound something like "Minnow".

Although I hear that she pronounced it Throat-Warbler Mangrove.

Re:Mixed metaphors (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138343)

It wasn't her yacht. It was owned by David Dyche. Evi's yacht is "Wonderland", an '89 Nordic sloop.

Don't worry (0)

Bramlet Abercrombie (1435537) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137405)

Aliens picked them up and took them to a better place.

Florida Atlantic University? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137639)

According to the (poorly written) Wikipedia article she taught at my Alma mater. Must not have been around my time - a class with her would have been awesome!!

-1, redundant (1)

hessian (467078) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138091)

(poorly written) Wikipedia article

You repeat yourself.

Wikipedia is one of the worst parts of the standardization/normalization of the web.

Another one? (1)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137675)

So her and Jim Gray [wikipedia.org] ?

WTF, Computer Science?

Re:Another one? (3, Funny)

freeze128 (544774) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137711)

Davy Jones needs admins....

It is pretty clear that it is a she. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44137851)

It is pretty clear that it is a she. Evi is the familiar form of Eve (Évi and Éva with Hungarian spelling). That her names is Hungarian is clear from her last name Nemeth, which is a common Hungarian last name, corresponding to an archaic spelling of "german". (Németh, originally from "néma" or "mute" in Hungarian).

Re:It is pretty clear that it is a she. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138031)

Yeah about as clear as shit on a board full of Americans who couldn't speak Magyar if you smeared jelly on a Rosetta Stone disk and jammed it up their ass.

The sign on Evi's desk (5, Informative)

Arrogant-Bastard (141720) | 1 year,24 days | (#44137909)

The last time I was in her office (which was many years ago) I noticed the sign on her desk:

Don't postpone joy.

She didn't. From the gusto with which she threw herself into her work to the whimsy that led her to recycle a jet fighter's cockpit canopy as a window in her improvised mountain home, she never hesitated to find a smile or a laugh.

So if we've lost her -- and I hope we haven't -- then we've not only lost someone who's been the mentor to an entire generation of system admins, we've lost a unique, wonderful, fascinating person.

p.s. I'm well aware that there are co-authors of those books. I'm equally well aware that Evi did the heavy lifting.

Re:The sign on Evi's desk (1)

dshk (838175) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138421)

I am usually a developer, but I have spent most of my time with system administration for the last half year. Whenever I have a new task in an unknown area, I always start with reading the relevant chapter from her book. I usually read a few other, unrelated sections too. As I have read this sad post, her book was actually lying next to me, open on page 938.

Re:The sign on Evi's desk (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138825)

Ah, Evi's Lair. The parties she used to throw up there... I remember that canopy window well. Sadly, I think the Lair burned down in one of Colorado's mountain wildfires. Didn't seem to faze her much, just meant that she had another reason to sail more.

She served on my master's thesis committee, and after the defense was over, I remember asking her what she was going to do next, since she was close to retirement. "I'm going to sail around the world as long as my body holds out," she answered. Then she gave me a big hug, and went on to do exactly that. If we've lost her (big if, I hope), I am happy to have known her, worked with her, and simply just been around someone who lived life with such unrestrained enthusiasm.

Oh-no (3, Interesting)

rainer_d (115765) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138041)

I didn't understand much of Unix before I read her book. But then I got my hands on the (then already ancient) 1st edition of the Unix System Administration Handbook - and it felt like a fog being lifted.

And I admit, I also thought she was a guy. She probably has baskets full of letters and emails with "Dear Mr Nemeth, ...".

Evi Nemeth, we owe you!

My good friend at CU. (5, Informative)

SteveWoz (152247) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138175)

Evi has been my closest contact at CU over the years. She was always a good friend and administered the scholarship I set up there. I am very sad but hoping to hear good news from my NZ friends. Evi was a very important person when it comes to Unix and Internet routing.

Re:My good friend at CU. (1)

pissoncutler (66050) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139769)

I read "UNIX System Administration" cover to cover in preperation for my first big job interview, and it helped me land the job (and jump from Appalachia to Silicon Valley). I owe her (and her co-authors) for many years of employment and adventures. I hope she and her sailing companions are found safe and sound.

Lesbo tragedy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138269)

Very sad. Gay "marriage" gone terribly wrong. My heart goes out to all the lesbian community, and all others who enjoy the strap-on lifestyle.

Every 1 should no she is a woman (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138573)

C. Her name is Evi. All politically correct folks no that evi is a woman's name. However, you will note that she is
1) old
2) white.

Therefore the Canonical Insitution of insane political correctness has determined her life is meaningless, and she is in fact evil.

She also spent her life doing nerdy things. How gay is that. The correct life that she should have led would to have been born black. If she could not manage that she at least should have allowed herself to be impregnated by multiple black men who would subsequently abandon her, and allow her to raise her kids on her own. This would help to mitigate to overwhelmingly hostile environment that poor inner city black youth have to cope with today. The only good cracker is a dead cracker. Or a cracker pregnant with a superiour (black) offspring.

U will note that I mispelt almost every single word. This is in keeping with today enlightened view on grammer and spelllin (mainly that it is gay). Real men go to prison, not college.

Ohh yea. If you disagree with me, you are a racist.

-Y do i try?

Re:Every 1 should no she is a woman (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139857)

You damn niggers should go back to Africa and why yes I am a racist.

James martin lost at sea as well, what is going on (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138739)

James martin lost at sea as well, what is going on?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/28/james_martin_found_dead/

And I thought this was a post about me (1)

guruevi (827432) | 1 year,24 days | (#44138891)

I read the first three words and I was like "aaah" but yes, sad story. Hopefully she turns up alive somewhere, she has written some great books.

No disrespect to this lady or her lost companions. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44138985)

But would this submission have been successful if there'd been no opportunity for soulskill to mention his beloved Australia?

As notable as she may be, other people notable in the same fields die every day, yet we rarely see mentions on Slashdot.

If Nemeth had been lost at sea in, say, the Carribbean, or died in her bed at home in the USA (or wherever), we wouldn't be reading about it here.

Evil Nemesis Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139131)

Is this good or bad?

I hope she's alive and well (1)

VAElynx (2001046) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139277)

Linux System Administrator Guide put together by her among other people has been one of my favourite books during my teen years, and I learned quite a lot from it. Well written, funny in places, and explains how to do things really well.

No distress radiobeacon on board? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139645)

People still go out on the open ocean in such small crafts without a distress radiobeacon [wikipedia.org] . That's just not sane or responsible in this day and age.

more information here (3, Interesting)

AndroSyn (89960) | 1 year,24 days | (#44139699)

I just googled a bit for further information about the ship and came across a rather interesting thread: http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f121/schooner-nina-merged-3-threads-105498.html [cruisersforum.com]

It appears the ship is equipped with an EPIRB that hasn't been activated apparently. Perhaps they really are just offcourse and not lost.

Re:more information here (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44140195)

EPIRBS on sailboats can be somewhat problematic. The idea is that if the boat sinks, the EPIRB detaches and floats off, starts beeping and squealing and hopefully survivors are in the immediate vicinity. In a sailing vessel it's easy for the thing to get caught in the rigging and dragged down. They don't work if they are underwater.

And if the boat capsizes rapidly (unusual in a bigger sailboat) and the EPIRB can get trapped.

But hopefully they just lost their antennas and are OK.

It's quite obvious what happened. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,24 days | (#44139723)

John Galt got him.

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