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NSA Recruitment Drive Goes Horribly Wrong

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the recruitment-unsuccessful dept.

The Media 530

An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian is running a story about a recent recruitment session held by the NSA and attended by students from the University of Wisconsin which had an unexpected outcome for the recruiters. 'Attending the session was Madiha R Tahir, a journalist studying a language course at the university. She asked the squirming recruiters a few uncomfortable questions about the activities of NSA: which countries the agency considers to be 'adversaries', and if being a good liar is a qualification for getting a job at the NSA.' Following her, others students started to put NSA employees under fire too. A recording of the session is available on Tahir's blog."

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If they had trouble answering the questions (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197257)

Then the answer to question #2 is no. Also, the answer to question #1 is all of the above.

blog = slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197285)

hope AdWords was installed

Going for a frsoty (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197295)

He's going the distance! He's going for frosty! He's ... all his packets getting latented by NSA wiretaps!!!!

Re:Going for a frsoty (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197389)

I used to think that I liked Cake, but then I heard their other songs. Sadly, I think that is their only good song.

Re:Going for a frsoty (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44197729)

Then you're going to rejoice when you learn this tidbit: there is no cake, it was a lie. There's also no spoon, but that's another story.

One interesting tidbit. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197313)

They get "targets" handed down, and don't decide who is an "adversary."

So we are all targets.

Great.

Re:One interesting tidbit. (4, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year ago | (#44197581)

I don't want to be a Target. I'd much rather be a Walmart.

Re:One interesting tidbit. (4, Funny)

gorzek (647352) | about a year ago | (#44197605)

I'd rather be a K-Mart. Nobody would even know I exist.

Re:One interesting tidbit. (5, Insightful)

fiziko (97143) | about a year ago | (#44197631)

To heck with K-Mart. Shop smart: be an S-Mart!

Re:One interesting tidbit. (1)

Wookact (2804191) | about a year ago | (#44197655)

I think I'd like to be a Kwik-e-mart.

Re:One interesting tidbit. (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year ago | (#44197789)

K-Mart was hunted by both Zombies and Umbrella Corp. I wouldn't want to be her.

Dumbasses (-1, Troll)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | about a year ago | (#44197339)

In this crap economy, organizations recruiting college younglings with no real-world experience are a very rare sight.

Yet, these dumb rich spoiled kids blew any employment opportunity they potentially had by hating the NSA, since it's the latest cool and hip thing to do.

Re:Dumbasses (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197379)

In this crap economy, organizations recruiting college younglings with no real-world experience are a very rare sight.

Yet, these dumb rich spoiled kids blew any employment opportunity they potentially had by hating the NSA, since it's the latest cool and hip thing to do.

Indeed, I'm trying to get ahead of the curve and I'm currently hating on Mother Theresa. Hooo if this thing ever goes down right, I am going to be SO fucking hipster.

Re:Dumbasses (5, Insightful)

ancientt (569920) | about a year ago | (#44197765)

You're never going to make it at that rate. Mother Theresa has been criticized [wikipedia.org] for some time. Perhaps most amusingly by Penn and Teller on their BS show [youtu.be] where she is described as a fraud, a fanatic and a fundamentalist, corrupt, nasty, cynical and cruel by Christopher Hitchens.

Re:Dumbasses (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197385)

not to mention this nadiha tahir bitch will eventually go back to whatever 3rd world shithole country she came from upon graduation, leaving her us classmates in the shit.

Normally I don't reply to ACs (1, Insightful)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year ago | (#44197503)

But here I make an exception. This reaction is so below all levels of courtesy and common sense. If this young woman has the brains to do language studies, she has definitely more brains than you, Mr. Coward & Anonymous. You are a shame to your country, that is what you are. There SHOULD be rules, here on /., to flag certain comments. Gosh. PS Can parent please be modded down into oblivion ?

Re:Normally I don't reply to ACs (1, Insightful)

danbert8 (1024253) | about a year ago | (#44197559)

Browse at 1, problem solved. Replying to the post only attracts extra attention to it.

Re:Normally I don't reply to ACs (2, Insightful)

datavirtue (1104259) | about a year ago | (#44197773)

She was unprofessional as a journalist and came off as immature as well. These people weren't squirming, they were just answering this bull dog's questions as best they could without getting fired in the process. She was clearly interested in painting them in a negative light so I would not attribute journalist credentials to her in this exchange. They did clearly state that policy makers hand down the requirements of their job--in other words the NSA doesn't choose targets the politicians do. End of story really. She seems angry.

Re:Dumbasses (4, Funny)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44197743)

this nadiha tahir bitch will eventually go back to whatever 3rd world shithole country she came from upon graduation

She's going back to the USA?

Re:Dumbasses (0, Flamebait)

royallthefourth (1564389) | about a year ago | (#44197415)

Look at those dumbasses who believe in something bigger than getting a high paying job as a spook.

Fuck you.

Re:Dumbasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197811)

Yeah that whole Constitution, Bill of Rights, Liberty, Freedom... that's all negotiable as long as I can have a 9-5 that lets me drive a Porche and have a real swimming pool in my back yard... which I have neither of...

Re:Dumbasses (0)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197449)

In this crap economy, organizations recruiting college younglings with no real-world experience are a very rare sight.

Yet, these dumb rich spoiled kids blew any employment opportunity they potentially had by hating the NSA, since it's the latest cool and hip thing to do.

Agreed! You shouldn't be marked a troll because your opinion is well formed and not (overly) offensive. (You didn't have to call them spoiled rich kids but whatever.)

Re:Dumbasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197469)

Hi rodrigoandrade! Apparently after crawling out of the rock you were under, you missed the line on the floor. Can you please just stand on the other side of that.

Thanks!
The Resistance

Re:Dumbasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197471)

I congratulate you for your masterful troll, but you're still an idiot.

Re:Dumbasses (2, Funny)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44197551)

I hear the KKK is hiring...

Re:Dumbasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197689)

At least they would have spanked the banksters of recent events.

Re:Dumbasses (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197585)

I guess you are person who will do anything if you need the money so this will be lost on you but perhaps these kids are throwing away an "employment opportunity" because it would be morally wrong to dedicate yourself to an entity which seems to be dedicated to violating basic human rights?

Re:Dumbasses (1)

datavirtue (1104259) | about a year ago | (#44197793)

By "entity" do you mean US government and current policy makers?

Re:Dumbasses (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year ago | (#44197649)

The only way to win that game is not to play. If you think you have little privacy, those students (and all the lower ranks involved) will have none at all, after what happened with Snowden. And what is worse, they are in the perfect place to be escape goats or just false positives if anything happens.

The only way to win is to be in the higher ranks, where you are just untouchable [washingtonpost.com] .

Re:Dumbasses (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44197731)

yeah everyone queue up for the snitch role because it pays.

dickweed.

what's puzzling is that they decided to keep the recruitment drive now though... you would have thought that this was the obvious outcome and it being obvious they didn't have good answers to such questions. we all (the globe) know that they pay ok money so need to advertise that.

ONE THING I agree with Chomsky on (3, Insightful)

roman_mir (125474) | about a year ago | (#44197349)

If you want terrorism to stop, then just don't participate in it.

The same exact thing applies to NSA and all other government terrorist organisations.

Re:ONE THING I agree with Chomsky on (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197665)

Does the same thing apply to carjacking? Armed robbery? Rape? "Oh, I'm sorry, but I don't participate in such activities so you must stop". Great plan.

come on (-1, Flamebait)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197351)

These are people doing a job. You might not like it, but don't start attacking them. That's like targeting cops just because they're cops.

Re:come on (5, Insightful)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about a year ago | (#44197417)

These are people doing a job.

So were the Stasi.

Re:come on (1, Insightful)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197487)

We are a nation of laws, not men. If you don't agree with the actions of a governmental organization then you need to lobby your governmental representatives with your views.

You also need to accept that your views might not be the majority and that, to some extent, we're a country of majority rule.

Re:come on (5, Insightful)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year ago | (#44197659)

What utter bullshit. You can't be a "nation of laws" when the laws apply differently to different subsets of the nation, when you're not allowed to know how the law works, and when those enforcing the law are above it.

If you want to keep sucking off your jackbooted masters, you'll need a new sound bite to try to excuse it. That one stopped working decades ago.

Re:come on (0, Troll)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197761)

If you want to keep sucking off your jackbooted masters, you'll need a new sound bite to try to excuse it. That one stopped working decades ago.

Why is this upvoted? That's seriously offensive.

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197667)

No, that's not how the real world works. If you sign up for duty and put yourself in the line of fire like these guys do, you take the handle the situation whatever that may be. People like you have this pseudo-platonian view of law that just doesn't exist.

Re:come on (2)

Wookact (2804191) | about a year ago | (#44197713)

Two lions and a sheep vote on whats for dinner...

We have the Bill of Rights which include some things like the 4th amendment. Things that would prevent the majority from taking advantage of the minority. Too bad the Bill of Rights has been suspended.

Re:come on (5, Insightful)

EllisDees (268037) | about a year ago | (#44197749)

>We are a nation of laws, not men

Lol! Really? So when is James Clapper going to be charged with contempt of congress for telling them that the NSA isn't spying on millions of Americans? When are the people in the previous administration going to be held responsible for ordering torture - also a felony? We ceased being a nation of laws a while ago.

Re:come on (2)

Fjandr (66656) | about a year ago | (#44197781)

We are not a country of majority rule. If that were true, there would be no Constitution.

Majority rule means the majority may do anything they like. While there are but shreds of the Constitution left, there are still things the majority is not allowed to do.

Re:come on (3, Insightful)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44197797)

This is what you wrote:

We are a nation of laws, not men. If you don't agree with the actions of a governmental organization then you need to lobby your governmental representatives with your views.

This is what it sounds like:

Laws are more important than people. If you don't agree with the actions of a governmental organization then you need to have enough money to bribe your governmental representatives with your views.

Re:come on (1)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year ago | (#44197515)

Amen, bro.

Re:come on (-1)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44197699)

These are people doing a job. . . . That's like targeting cops just because they're cops.

So were the Stasi.

The Stasi weren't just doing their job, and they weren't just cops.

The Stasi motto was "Schild und Schwert der Partei" (Shield and Sword of the Party),
  that is the ruling Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED) -- Stasi [wikipedia.org]

The Stasi secret police were in effect Communist activists suppressing speech, religion, political opposition, political organization, and anything else that was deemed opposition to the communist one-party regime. They were an instrument of totalitarian rule.

Re:come on (2)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about a year ago | (#44197425)

These are people doing a job. You might not like it, but don't start attacking them.

I'm sorry, are you serious? "Doing a job"? And they are recruiting people who will be "just doing their job" in the field of domestic spying. Also, if you are interested in "cops just doing their jobs", consider that Seattle is currently under a Consent Decree with the DOJ for "just doing their job". Maybe *YOU* sould apply to the NSA to âoejust do your jobâ.

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197543)

And they are recruiting people who will be "just doing their job" in the field of domestic spying.

Maybe something like that is in TFA, but I see nothing in TFS about what field they were recruiting for.
Or are we just assuming now because NSA is teh evilz?

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197621)

I have met a lot of those recuriters, they are great people. They are only doing their job. I love how you are mad at the NSA for spying, you should go to the top of the food chain, Congress is the one who authorized it/allowed it. Even after what has been released there are few congressmen who are against it. So that's where you should turn your anger.

Re:come on (5, Interesting)

Wookact (2804191) | about a year ago | (#44197751)

Thats funny they taught us in the military that it was our personal responsibility to refuse to follow an unlawful order. The whole "I was just following orders" routine didn't work at Nuremberg, and should not work here. I just wish the other government agencies held that belief.

oooohhhh, edgy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197473)

FUCK. DA. POLICE. [knowyourmeme.com]

Re:come on (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44197491)

You mean they're "just following orders"? Ah, I guess it's okay then.

Re:come on (1)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197557)

You mean they're "just following orders"? Ah, I guess it's okay then.

They're not soldiers, genocide is no where insight, your vague analogy is invalid.

Re:come on (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44197821)

So as long as it's not genocide, it's okay to just be following orders without questioning them?

Re:come on (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197637)

Nazi's : invaded neighboring countries, isolated and killed 6 million Jews

NSA : never actually done anything ever (that we know of).

The resemblance is uncanny.

Re:come on (0)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197673)

Nazi's : invaded neighboring countries, isolated and killed 6 million Jews

NSA : never actually done anything ever (that we know of).

The resemblance is uncanny.

Come on mods, that doesn't deserve to be downvoted so hard.

Re:come on (5, Insightful)

Roogna (9643) | about a year ago | (#44197495)

No, they are government employees, which according to our HIGHEST LAWS means they answer to US the PEOPLE. If they can't handle people asking them some hard questions, then it's a good chance they know that they are doing things they shouldn't.

Now no one beat them up, no one attacked them. But these "recruiters" jobs is to spread propaganda, and it's about time people started calling them out on it.

And yes physically attacking a cop just because they're a cop is a horrible idea. But asking a cop to abide by their OATH to Protect and Serve, and calling them out on it verbally when the police office they work in is breaking the law? There's nothing wrong with that, as perhaps they shouldn't let their fellow officers break the law in the first place.

Those that hold themselves up over others as authorities, or as law, should also be held to the strictest standards.

Re:come on (0)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197593)

I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to expose all governmental employees to public scrutiny. That's what elected officials are for. Anyone else is fulfilling a task.

Re:come on (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44197627)

I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to expose all governmental employees to public scrutiny.

No one said that. But it is in the best interests of The People to know what is being done in their name.

Re:come on (1)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year ago | (#44197701)

I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to expose all governmental employees to public scrutiny.

No one said that. But it is in the best interests of The People to know what is being done in their name.

Not always, nor immediately. Had the President had to announce the secret mission to storm Osama Bin Laden's base the mission never would have been accomplished.

Re:come on (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44197719)

Not always, nor immediately. Had the President had to announce the secret mission to storm Osama Bin Laden's base the mission never would have been accomplished.

That's a lame example because we were told about that in a timely fashion; indeed, the entire point of that exercise was to show off our desecration of Osama's corpse to the world. It had, really, no other purpose.

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197727)

These recruiters were exposed to a group of people these recruiters thought would be exposed to their recruiting.
The moment you recruit others you are in the public, your head, your answers, your expertise, your appearance counts.

Re:come on (1)

Anachragnome (1008495) | about a year ago | (#44197775)

"I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to expose all governmental employees to public scrutiny..."

So, who do you work for?

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197505)

You're SO right! The NSA employees are just doing their jobs. We can't in good conscience hold them accountable. They are publicly funded, for Christ's sake!

God, it's like targeting foreign soliders because they are killing your neighbours. Or targeting the Nazi SS because they are genociding.

Give them a break, people! They are all just doing their jobs!

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197511)

Would you work for Accenture knowing that they are behind major IT cock ups (stock exchange, NHS database, I think that rocket which had a divide by zero explosion, ...) and are a spin off from the corrupt accounting firm behind Enron?

Re:come on (5, Informative)

dirk (87083) | about a year ago | (#44197537)

Have you actually listened to it? No one attacked them. They asked them some very pointed questions, but even the pointed questions were generally in reference to what they said (while referencing what is now known because of the leaks). When they ask about which countries were "adversaries" it was because they said they analyzed the communications of "adversaries". So she asked what they considered adversaries, since we know they analyze the communications of our allies. A lot of hard questions were asked, but no one attacked them just because they worked at the NSA.

Re:come on (2)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44197795)

The recruiters were there to offer jobs to people, not to answer for every controversy involving the agency. It isn't their job, and it isn't especially reasonable. Do you harass sales clerks about sweat shop labor used to manufacture some particular good in their store? This isn't much different.

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197541)

It is worth noting that at the Nuremberg trials the most common excuse was "I was just following orders."

Re:come on (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44197583)

Some jobs shouldn't be done. OH Hell, I'll go ahead and Godwin the thread, the stormtroopers were just doing their job in WWII.

"I just enforce the law I don't make it" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197601)

You are a fucking retard and I'm tired of this excuse. These people are paid by YOUR TAX DOLLARS just like cops and should definitely answer any question put forward - especially if one wants to work there too.

NSA: "I'm sorry I can't answer that question honestly"

Me: fuck you I'm working somewhere else then, I don't want to work for a bunch of dishonest self-serving fagots.

Re:come on (4, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year ago | (#44197619)

You come on. They had to face pointed questions. Boo fucking hoo. If my employer, a hospital, started executing patients they had sworn to heal, I'd expect some questions even though I do research, and the only time I see patients is when they're walking into the building across the street. The NSA is supposed to exist to defend us and our rights, and did the exact opposite. They can fucking deal with the fallout or they can quit. Their bosses and directing politicians caused the problem, not the people who are trying to get answers.

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197643)

Today in Jeopardy "This Nazi bureaucrat defended his actions by claiming he was 'just doing his job'"

Re:come on (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197707)

I have no problem with good cops, which is the vast majority of them. I do have a problem with bad cops that don't follow the law. And good cops that are great at their job but aren't any good at recruiting shouldn't be doing recruiting.

In this case, yes, these people are just doing a job -- recruiting. That's a tough job. However, before expecting to recruit (hopefully) the brightest students in the country, they might want to have really good answers for questions that an awful lot of the ordinary people in the public may have regarding the legality of what the NSA is doing. As in, the recruiters should have been drilled in lengthy, candid, self-critical sessions about the sorts of pointed questions people might ask because of recent events, and how to handle them gracefully. To not be prepared for the result of what's been happening in the last few months of public attention is bad planning.

I'm sure there's a lot of great people in the NSA and in other policing and intelligence agencies. But if you have difficulty answering questions about the job a potential candidate may be doing in the institution, even if the questions are bold and perhaps unwarranted, then you really shouldn't be in recruiting. Furthermore, if there is any validity to those questions (i.e. they may be uncomfortable ones but are still entirely legitimate), then you might want to reconsider the image of the institution for which you work and if that's the real source of the problem. Maybe some things need to change so that your institution doesn't sabotage its own recruiting efforts because its reputation has become so poor. You can't blame these recruiters for the image that the institution has cultivated, but they do have to deal with it, and they better be taking candidates' feedback back to their bosses and saying "We have a serious problem if you want the best employees to come work with us".

No surprises (-1, Troll)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44197355)

No surprises there. The University of Wisconsin has long been a center of "progressive" activism. That they would be hostile to American national security organizations is to be expected.

I wonder if she made a special trip to be there?

Re:No surprises (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197445)

Indeed. There's a reason that their school color is red.

Re:No surprises (1)

quacking duck (607555) | about a year ago | (#44197709)

Indeed. There's a reason that their school color is red.

Ah yes, red, the colour of the US Republican party when it comes to identifying which states they control...

Re:No surprises (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197463)

RTFA
  'Attending the session was Madiha R Tahir, a journalist studying a language course at the university.'

The Guardian (0)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44197357)

Man! These guys really know how to milk a story.

Re:The Guardian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197723)

They can probably get another fortnight out of it, but only if they dip deep. Look forward to further rounds of:

Technically Inaccurate Descriptions Of Technical Issues.
Guardian Journalist Finds NSA Bug In Bowl Of Cornflakes.
Bowling Club in Bumfuck Illinois Declare NSA Un-American.
Concern-Troll Pundit Bemoans Modern Life, Attitudes.
Somebody You've Heard Of Volunteers The Opinion That Snowden Is A Hero.
Arbitrary Customs Seizure/Political Stance Obviously Reprisal.

Recruitment or press op? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197369)

I'm wondering why the recruiters didn't stop right there and wait for a question within the context of their purpose for being on the campus. I know college is a place to explore and have liberal discussion, but this looks like the childish behavior I'd expect when reading article comments on CNN.

This is why the government seems secretive and not forthcoming with information. The media just tries to tear apart anything said and puts people that have no business of being on the record for an event they have nothing to do with in the public eye. There recruiters were not upper level decision makers, just folks trying to do their job.

Disclaimer: I'm also a low-level non-decision maker government employee.

Complete lies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197373)

The NSA does not tell complete lies. All is well. We can sleep sound knowing the NSA doesn't tell complete lies.

Re:Complete lies (2)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about a year ago | (#44197499)

The NSA does not tell complete lies.

Sometimes they just refuse to comment.

They are just doing their job (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197377)

It's the politicians who are responsible for this mess. And that includes both the Obama and the Bush administration.

Re:They are just doing their job (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197435)

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.

I can almost imagine it. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197399)

Having worked at several of the big-5 agencies (NSA included) I can attest to the fact that their HR organizations are pretty inept. They are so focused on EO and diversity that they really have no staff who know the trade craft that they are recruiting against nor even people who can simply think on their feet. For a potential recruit to act in any way other than honored to be speaking to a recruiter in the intelligence community and awestruck at the very thought of getting said job would totally derail them. I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall.

Re:I can almost imagine it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197527)

You're full of shit. Or really exaggerating what you did.

Parent cleaned the toilets at the NSA coffee shop.

STFU asshole. We all know you're a big talking asshole.

You got to love young candidates (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197421)

For an EA recruitment session at Imperial College, a fresher asked the Q&A guy "In C&C or Red Alert, what are players supposed to think of Muslims when you portray them as suicide bombers in your game?" Everybody clapped and cheered the young lad.And that was in 2006 I think.

Tahir's blog is currently 500 (1)

crymeph0 (682581) | about a year ago | (#44197547)

I wonder if it's the /. effect, or if that's just what we're supposed to think. Not bothering to post anonymous because they'd find me anyway. =), I mean =| <SIGNAL HIJACKED> I mean =)) I'm so happy to be protected by your watchful eyes, NSA!

being a good liar is a good skill to be a spy / un (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year ago | (#44197555)

being a good liar is a good skill to be a spy / uncover guy.

Better blog link (5, Informative)

Bill Dimm (463823) | about a year ago | (#44197561)

A recording of the session is available on Tahir's blog.

It would probably make more sense to link to the blog post [mobandmultitude.com] instead of the main blog page so people can actually find the recording in the future after new blog posts are added.

Where's the audio file? (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | about a year ago | (#44197565)

I've visited the "blog" but I can't find any link for the "audio file". Has anyone found it? Anyone have the link?

Re:Where's the audio file? (1)

Bill Dimm (463823) | about a year ago | (#44197617)

The blog seems to be down now. When I was on there, there was a little rectangle in the middle of the article that said something like "you need Flash to listen to the audio." I don't do Flash, but I assume that was it.

look at the Guardian photo (4, Insightful)

stenvar (2789879) | about a year ago | (#44197575)

Look at the people in the Guardian's photo: they hold up a sign of Snowden, write "HERO" across it, and then use the Obama logo for the "O"? How stupid and partisan can you get? Not only is Obama fully responsible for the current NSA actions and keeping them secret, he lied during his campaign when he promised to end such abuses.

Re:look at the Guardian photo (4, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44197671)

Maybe it was meant to be Ironic. HOPE you don't get assassinated, Mr. Snowden.

Re:look at the Guardian photo (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197721)

Pssst. The NSA was spying on everyone well before Obama got into office. That doesn't absolve him from anything, but surely you're aware of that, right?

Re:look at the Guardian photo (4, Insightful)

Koreantoast (527520) | about a year ago | (#44197787)

But which is worse? The President that started the program, or the President elected to replace him who ran on a platform calling for change and dismantling of such programs only to continue and expand upon it?

Re:look at the Guardian photo (1)

coryhamma (842129) | about a year ago | (#44197785)

A cursory image search of "american flag letters" leads to some pretty pathetic examples. If someone was putting that sign together pretty quickly, the Obama O is significantly more professional looking than the alternatives, assuming you didn't have time or skills to draw / create your own. Seems like a stretch to assume that the image choice represented some partisan statement. You could just as easily say that the person was trying to show that they believed Snowden to be a "true hero" when compared with Obama's track record.

The publicity drive appears to be working though (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197629)

Look at all those upstanding young people who did this wonderful thing that will have no consequence whatsoever. Don't you have faith in the people?

NSA muzzles the Press... (5, Informative)

Anachragnome (1008495) | about a year ago | (#44197687)

The NSA is wiping their ass with the U.S. Constitution again.

A recent article in CNN outlines why there is little in the US Media regarding Eric Snowden and the NSA Prism program--the NSA is literally threatening journalists with prosecution for espionage for doing their jobs.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/opinion/snepp-journalists-espionage/index.html?hpt=us_mid [cnn.com]

We are sliding down that slippery slope fast, folks. I honestly feel the next few months will determine whether or not our Constitution remains viable as a means to protect basic human rights. Help the press help us--tell as many people as you can about this article and the serious repercussions the article outlines. These are not potential repercussions--this is happening folks. A near-complete lack of articles in main-stream media about the Prism program and Snowden is all the evidence I need to come to that conclusion.

I'd like to respect these students... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197759)

But in reality I don't. They're upset at the wrong people and it shows just how clueless they are. Sure, we're all pissed off about the spying programs. Making it tough on recruiters may be fun, and even humorous, but in the end does absolutely nothing. They people responsible are those these students voted into office (if they voted). The real outrage should be at our elected representatives. Go to their town halls and make THEM squirm. Better yet, vote them all out of office and vote in people worth while. Obama, nor just about any of the current representatives, are not trustworthy. It's pretty clear these students don't understand that. I sadly wonder if the voting populace as a whole even understands.

Oh, sure... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197779)

What's her next target for hard-hitting investigative journalism? Interrogating the WalMart cashier about the sleazy business practices of the corporation? How about cornering the burger-flipper at McDonald's over his/her complicity in contributing to the nationwide obesity epidemic?

That's just what we need: more up-and-coming journalists that pick the low-hanging fruit and pretend that it's a raw, career-making scoop.

Obligatory Good Will Hunting (5, Interesting)

istartedi (132515) | about a year ago | (#44197825)

Good Will Hunting [youtube.com]

Skimmed and didn't see anybody else posting it. Kinda surprising.

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