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Sky Deutschland Considering Using Bone Conduction To Force Ads On Train Riders

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the because-rail-transportation-has-been-too-good-for-too-long dept.

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KindMind writes "Sky Deutschland is considering a proposal to use bone conduction to broadcast ads to train riders. The idea is that the riders rest their heads against a part of the train, like the train window, and then bone conduction would broadcast ads directly into their ears."

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lolwut (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44196957)

thats about as cool as a train company called "sky..."

i guess Lufthansa was already taken.

Re:lolwut (4, Interesting)

Jetra (2622687) | about a year ago | (#44197141)

Seems that the world is turning into Futurama. Where are our hypnotoads and drunken robots burping fire?

Re: lolwut (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197961)

Where are they? My place, around midnight tomorrow night. Know the secret handshake or don't bother showing up.

Re:lolwut (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197163)

Sky is a pay-TV company, not a train company...

Re:lolwut (2)

nospam007 (722110) | about a year ago | (#44198567)

"Sky is a pay-TV company, not a train company..."

It will never happen anyway. The German Railway Company is even unable to keep the air conditioning working in summer nor the heating in winter, much less such a sophisticated advertisement method.
It's a running joke that ain't funny anymore, because it happens every fucking year.

Nein, bitte. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44196959)

n/t

Re:Nein, bitte. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197401)

No, please?

Re:Nein, bitte. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197539)

No, thank you.

Re:Nein, bitte. (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year ago | (#44197633)

danke = thank you
bitte = please

Re: Nein, bitte. (0)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44197747)

I'm feelin' dank.

Using bone conduction, what a coincidence (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44196963)

I was thinking of using bone fragmentation to help my local railway planners understand how I feel about their ossified asininity.

...and in others news... (5, Funny)

raydobbs (99133) | about a year ago | (#44196969)

...the incident of violent vandalism aboard trams and trains rose exponentially after the introduction of technology that, to paraphrase a gibbering offender led away in a straight jacket, '...puts goddamn voices in your head..." Advertisers are calling it a new age in advertising and psychotropic drug manufacturers report a boom in sales. More at 11...

Get all the ladies with a strai(gh)t jacket (4, Funny)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44197067)

to paraphrase a gibbering offender led away in a straight jacket

As opposed to a gay jacket [explosm.net] ?

We need a new right... (5, Insightful)

DigitalSorceress (156609) | about a year ago | (#44196977)

We need a new right - the right NOT to be advertised to.

I'm sick of being a product.. I mean, ok the old model of Television and Radio where you the viewer gets something of value (the programming/entertainment) without directly paying for it, then it's a reasonable tradeoff that it's paid for by advertising

However, when you're paying for a train fare, you've paid for the transit... it's not like you're given the option of "pay full price to not be subjected to adversising, or get a discount for being advertised to"

I know I'm unrealistic, but damnit I'm sick of being monetized against my will.

Re:We need a new right... (3, Insightful)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44197091)

You mean the television that you have to pay a monthly fee to watch? THAT television?

Re:We need a new right... (2)

b4dc0d3r (1268512) | about a year ago | (#44197387)

No, the over the air rabbit ears HDTV that I don't have to pay monthly for. That is free to me, and the cost is advertising.

At this point, the consumer sees cable or satellite TV service as something you pay for - not to defray advertising costs, but to have a range of 200+ channels to choose from. You pay the man in the middle for convenience. People are not buying ad-free TV service because it does not exist outside of specific premium channels, where that's exactly what you buy - on top of the service.

GP point still stands - if you buy a service unrelated to media, you should have a right to not suffer advertising that, unless you remove your skeleton, you cannot avoid.

And you object on the triviality that cable companies found out how to milk both ends of the cow? Shame on you. Premium ad-free TV exists, it's just not what you assumed it was.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#44197703)

Over the air HDTV... lucky SOB. I don't even have over the air TV, period.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | about a year ago | (#44198183)

same here, but, hilariously, the local box store (Alco) stocks(and sells) the new digital over the air rabbit ears. I really wonder just how pissed people get when they buy the antenna, hook it up, and NOTHING HAPPENS.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about a year ago | (#44197943)

At this point, the consumer sees cable or satellite TV service as something you pay for

In Germany, you don't pay for satellite (you do for cable, though).

Re:We need a new right... (4, Insightful)

calzones (890942) | about a year ago | (#44197109)

I like this idea.

Advertising is becoming increasingly intrusive in our day-to-day activities. Billboards are bad enough, then it became the sides of busses and tops of taxis, and then gigantic LED displays that blind you at night. Now it's while you're sitting in the theater, broadcast in public areas, it's at the gas pump and the urinal stall, they come up when you press pause on a blu-ray... enough.

Specifically, advertising needs to be prohibited from all situations where a person has paid for access or entrance to something. More ideally, it would also be prohibited from any context where the person hasn't explicitly agreed to be subjected to ads in exchange to some product or service.

Re:We need a new right... (5, Interesting)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44197247)

I'm radically anti-advertising, I firmly believe that advertising is actually economically damaging to society, since it represents a deviation from what a person would believe their own best interests were without the advertising present. The degree to which mentally unhealthy con-games and brainwashing are used also potentially represents a mass damage to the human psyche.

I understand that free-speech is valuable and not to be trod on lightly, but if you're paying for it, it's not really free speech anyways. I'd like to see what a paid-ad free post industrial society is like.

Re: We need a new right... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197409)

I agree. The huge amount of ads everywhere nowadays strike me as an example of a stupid zero-sum game with my attention. I understand that a certain amount of ads might actually genuinely help people become aware of certain products, but then oneself could also seek for the desired product without someone blasting into your ear that 'it exists and you need it'. I guess that when new ways of advertising stop to be invented, the whole idea of consumerism will crash, and with it, the economy.

Re:We need a new right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197577)

I think the future of free news on the internet will be advertisements and pr pronouncements. All the useful news will be put behind paywalls and most people wont notice until the process is nearly complete. Already it appears that yahoo's science articles are provided by some kind of pr media spin content creation company.

Re:We need a new right... (5, Insightful)

chihowa (366380) | about a year ago | (#44198129)

It's not just economically damaging, it damages our trust in the intrinsic human properties that hold our society together. Advertising increasingly co-opts the signals that humans use to indicate familiarity and trustworthiness and uses them to deceive people for profit.

A smile from someone you don't know now puts you on your guard. I almost threw out a handwritten letter the other day because so much junk mail uses fake "handwritten" fonts to try to trick people into opening them. There are countless examples of this and our society suffers as a result of this trusted interpersonal interaction breakdown.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44197287)

Specifically, advertising needs to be prohibited from all situations...

Let's complete the job and prohibit all speech. I mean, what the hell, right? It's all just a bunch of noise. I demand silence!

Re:We need a new right... (1)

calzones (890942) | about a year ago | (#44197431)

If I have to pay you to say something, it's not free speech.

If someone wants to stand on a street corner and not get paid to tell everyone they should go out and buy the latest and greatest gizmo, well that's their right. But if someone is paying them to do it, that's a whole different story.

Re:We need a new right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198397)

Enforcement?

Re:We need a new right... (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#44197741)

Specifically, advertising needs to be prohibited from all situations where a person has paid for access or entrance to something. More ideally, it would also be prohibited from any context where the person hasn't explicitly agreed to be subjected to ads in exchange to some product or service.

What would that ball game cost if all advertising was eliminated from inside the stadium? Could the fans afford it?
Could the team afford to fly to their next game, or would they all be taking the train?

Most likely these things drive the inflated contracts we pay athletes these days.

Is a train, or an airplane or even a bus is a different proposition?

Major airlines don't seem to advertise anything, except themselves.
Every city bus I've ever been in has advertising. (Some of it left over from the Pleistocene.)
New York Subways [wikimedia.org] have always had advertising in the trains. Seattle light rail [wordpress.com] , none. (Although the cars are configured for advertising, it appears not to be in use yet).

You can close your eyes, or read your book, listen to your music and shut out all the ads, but bone conduction seems a little over the top.

Re:We need a new right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197997)

What would that ball game cost if all advertising was eliminated from inside the stadium? Could the fans afford it?
Could the team afford to fly to their next game, or would they all be taking the train?

Who gives a flying fuck? What would that ball game cost if all the players were paid something closer to an average wage?

(Heh. Captcha: apathy)

Re:We need a new right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198005)

If the players weren't so fucking overpaid to play games, then advertising wouldn't be necessary at all. Of course, it would still exist as it is profitable to the stadium owner.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#44198097)

Who (besides soccer moms) would watch (even for free) a team fat fat out of shape largely incompetent pretty much clueless players? In any sport? In any country?

Even as comedy, that fails.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#44198181)

Go watch the second episode of the BBC series "Black Mirror".

That is our future.

Re:We need a new right... (4, Informative)

Flammon (4726) | about a year ago | (#44198201)

We can't really let this thread go on without mentioning São Paulo. Looks like the experiment is going well too.

Five years later, São Paulo continues to exist without advertisements. But instead of causing economic ruin and deteriorating aesthetics, 70 percent of city residents find the ban beneficial, according to a 2011 survey. Unexpectedly, the removal of logos and slogans exposed previously overlooked architecture, revealing a rich urban beauty that had been long hidden.

http://www.newdream.org/resources/sao-paolo-ad-ban [newdream.org]

Re:We need a new right... (1)

jythie (914043) | about a year ago | (#44198207)

Or at minimal it would be really nice if there were some restrictions on advertising to captive audiences. TVs in the gas pumps are difficult to avoid but possible... but TVs on trains are getting really difficult to ignore.

Heh, here is where we might be able to pull in one of the disability acts or something. Neurotypicals just get frustrated, but people with odder wiring can really suffer from such systems.

Little different from newspapers (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44197111)

However, when you're paying for a train fare, you've paid for the transit

No, you've paid for half the transit. Advertisers paid for the other half. It's little different from newspapers or pay television.

Re:Little different from newspapers (1)

gQuigs (913879) | about a year ago | (#44197233)

Nope, advertisers don't really put that much money into the system.

Excercpt from PATCO's budget (local transit authority):
Net Passenger Revenue: 23,900,000
Advertising: 600,000

Now, they are still operating at a loss, but that's mass transit, they have a huge positive externality.

Re:Little different from newspapers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197685)


Excercpt from PATCO's budget (local transit authority):
Net Passenger Revenue: 23,900,000
Advertising: 600,000

And, most likely:
Cost of installing and maintaining bone-conducting advertisment technology: $3,000,000
(numbers pulled out of ass, of course, but I reckon it'll end up something like that).

Re:Little different from newspapers (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44197337)

The other half gets paid for with interest when you buy the product whose price is padded to cover the advertising. If you don't buy that product, you still pay when the competing brand you bought has to advertise to keep up in the ad wars.

Amusingly, when cigarette ads were banned from most places in the U.S., the tobacco companies became more profitable than ever due to being relieved of the costs.

All totaled, consumer prices would be lower if the ads went away.

Re:Little different from newspapers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197661)

Amusingly, when cigarette ads were banned from most places in the U.S., the tobacco companies became more profitable than ever due to being relieved of the costs.

Is that true? I'm not disbelieving you, but I'd love a citation I could give people.

Didn't a similar thing happen to the pharmaceutical companies, except in reverse? That is, their prices jumped through the roof once the regulations on their advertisements were removed (all those TV ads are expensive!).

Re:Little different from newspapers (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44198245)

Unfortunately, I heard that quite some time ago when there was no web. I have no idea where that was now.

Re:Little different from newspapers (2)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#44197819)

However, when you're paying for a train fare, you've paid for the transit

No, you've paid for half the transit. Advertisers paid for the other half. It's little different from newspapers or pay television.

Tax payers paid for the other half. Interior advertising pays very little on a train, or bus. (The outside of buses bring in some revenue, but not as much as you might think).

So between fares and Tax Money, virtually ALL of the cost of train, subway, bus transport is paid by the users, or taxpayers in the appropriate jurisdiction.

If fares went down, or service improved with more routes and frequency, advertising on trains might be warranted. But I still don't want bone conduction or loudspeaker advertising that I can't shut out.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year ago | (#44197143)

I'd be shocked to see anything useful at a legal level; but I'd encourage everyone to do their part by heaping scorn and vitriol upon the people who help make advertising possible.

There are real people(and a lot of them) who work on churning out ads, 'concepts' like this, various social media flimflam, etc, etc. If admitting that you were one of them were treated more like admitting that you have a thing for puppy sodomy, it might help, and it would, at least, decrease their quality of life and increase their turnover rate.

Re:We need a new right... (1)

stenvar (2789879) | about a year ago | (#44197167)

I'm sure trains would be exempt; they are government owned and operated anyway, and the government can do anything it likes.

Re:We need a new right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197393)

It's not your train. It's not your transportation. It's not your land.

Slave, you are way out of line. Step back into the line NOW!

Re:We need a new right... (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year ago | (#44197651)

We need a new right - the right NOT to be advertised to.

Yea! Nuts to free speech! I want a right NOT to hear what others have to say, and an implicit right to gag any speech that bothers me!

Any thoughts as to why a "right not to be advertised to" might have one or two bothersome side-effects?

Re:We need a new right... (1)

Wookact (2804191) | about a year ago | (#44197951)

YES! This. If I want to force people to listen to me via bone conduction then that is my right of free speech! Just like purchasing.. ohh I mean lobbying politicians is FREE SPEECH.

Oh but protesting is not free speech, cant we get rid of those protesters, or relegate them to a corner somewhere?

I am actually tired of the free speech argument, in todays world it is only free speech if you have the money to pay for it. Perhaps if they expanded the definition to include all people we might be able to talk.

Re:We need a new right... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198251)

I'm sorry to intrude on this discussion with a bit of reality, but there's one thing that Sky Deutschland doesn't have: trains. It's a media company, not a train company. It can patent all the technology it wants, it can consider using those patents all it wants, but until it has some trains to install it in, this is all just some random idea with no basis in reality. British tabloid reporting at its finest.

Bone Conduction, eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44196989)

I got some bone conduction for Sky Deutschland... I got some messages I'd like to send 'em...

The voices in my head (1)

kammat (114899) | about a year ago | (#44196995)

When the voices in your head are trying to sell you something, there might be bigger problems.

Whoa??? (0)

zero.kalvin (1231372) | about a year ago | (#44196997)

What the heck is that ??

Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197003)

DAFUQ MAN. What planet do these marketing asshats live on? You think a rider trying to rest their head want's to hear an ad?

I'm holding out for (1)

Cornwallis (1188489) | about a year ago | (#44197019)

treppaning.

Re:I'm holding out for (3, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44197137)

treppaning.

If anyone ever figures out how telepathy can work, I predict WW III will be between advertisers and a very angry public.

Re:I'm holding out for (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197325)

Oddly enough, text messaging is already pretty close to targeted telepathy. You have an idea and you want to share it with your friend no matter where they are. At some point later, your friend has received your idea and they can respond to it... usually by writing "lol".

On second thought, telepathy is a terrible idea.

Re: I'm holding out for (2)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44197451)

as if that wouldn't be bad enough, but you would have the RIAA and MPAA charging you for thinking of a song or rememberinga scene from a movie.

No wonder the Germans get murderous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197023)

They get exposed to these sorts of things! Imagine trying to get some rest, leaning your head against something, and hearing advertising.

Yikes. This is a recipe for World War III.

World War III was the Cold War (0)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44197179)

This is a recipe for World War III.

World War III [wikipedia.org] was fought and decided. The commies lost the first match (Korea), won the second (Vietnam), but lost the rubber (DDR was absorbed into Germany and USSR broke up). We're in World War IV [wikipedia.org] now.

Feet? Butt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197029)

If they can conduct through the feet or the butt, they'll get a wider audience!

Re:Feet? Butt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197189)

Getting advertisement from your ass, now thats a great idea.

Re:Feet? Butt? (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44197219)

Good luck with that. Feet and butt tend to be not only softer tissue but also (by law or regulation) covered by clothing.

Re:Feet? Butt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197715)

Not in non-religious-fundamentalist-extremist countries.
It's perfectly legal to be naked in Germany. You only get into trouble if you're harassing people.
And if you just cover your primary sexual organ, nobody will ever feel sexually harassed by a otherwise naked body. (Even though there's no difference, since it's not the sexual organ but the horniness plus the not-leaving-somebody-alone that is the actual harassment.)
They just might not like you making their seats dirty with your sweaty non-bidet-washed ass. (Understandably.)

And I ride trains barefoot all the time. (Feet are *made* to be used naked by the way. No, pathogens and dirt don't just pass though a mile of tough-like-leather skin. And we Germans generally keep our streets cleaner. For the rest you have these amazing things called "eyes"... and an immune system, provided you don't only eat raw shit [aka chicken nuggets, fries and fried mars bars]. Duh.)

Re:Feet? Butt? (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about a year ago | (#44198157)

Feet are *made* to be used naked by the way.

Feet are not made to be used on asphalt or metal floors.

Re:Feet? Butt? (1)

Valdrax (32670) | about a year ago | (#44197839)

If they can conduct through the feet or the butt, they'll get a wider audience!

Personally, I'm tired enough of people talking out of their asses.
The last thing I need is for them to start talking into mine!

Oops (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44197069)

I guess they will have to outlaw pillows or rolling up your sweater to use as a headrest.

Re:Oops (1)

ancientt (569920) | about a year ago | (#44197481)

This was kind of what I thought of immediately... you mean all you have do in order to avoid the ads is not lay your head against the broadcasting part? Hurray! I can do that.

Look at the positive side of this.. (4, Funny)

Registered Coward v2 (447531) | about a year ago | (#44197097)

once someone figures out how to hack into the ad server all kinds of chaos and hilarity can ensue, Ja?

Re:Look at the positive side of this.. (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year ago | (#44197803)

Better yet, figure out a way to send targeted individuals subliminal messages - then all you need to do is sit down next to attractive women...

This is why I take a pillow on trains (2)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44197117)

Ah, trains, a safe haven for travelers for decades, now the science of pushing crap on people who don't want it has invaded your vestibules.

I road on Amtrak years ago and could not for the life of me understand why the bar car had an announcer, who broadcast throughout the train, in a voice not unlike a Harley Davidson exhaust tube by your ear, what wonderful deals they still had on drinks ... at 10 PM.

Re:This is why I take a pillow on trains (3, Insightful)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | about a year ago | (#44197275)

Not unlike the damn TVs they stuck on the back seats of some cabs in Boston. I just want a moment of peace in a cab (even chatting with the driver would be better) not be forced to watch news about the latest disaster or murder. News is like finding pennies, it is available everywhere and you'll get it eventually. I don't need it shoved at me in every venue. Fortunately I was able to turn it off. I'm sure someday they will remove that option.

Re:This is why I take a pillow on trains (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44197497)

As long as you have your fist or a black magic marker, they can never fully remove that option but they can force you to remove the on option for the next passenger.

Re:This is why I take a pillow on trains (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44198159)

As long as you have your fist or a black magic marker, they can never fully remove that option but they can force you to remove the on option for the next passenger.

The cabbie probably has a mirror or camera to record would be vandals. Better to just bring a roll of duct tape and piece of cardboard with you.

Re:This is why I take a pillow on trains (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44198135)

Not unlike the damn TVs they stuck on the back seats of some cabs in Boston. I just want a moment of peace in a cab (even chatting with the driver would be better) not be forced to watch news about the latest disaster or murder. News is like finding pennies, it is available everywhere and you'll get it eventually. I don't need it shoved at me in every venue. Fortunately I was able to turn it off. I'm sure someday they will remove that option.

I was fueling up a rental car somewhere in northern Michigan, at a Shell station IIRC, and suddenly I hear this horribly loud obnoxious music. I figure some ass-hat just pulled up and is sharing his/her lack of musical taste with the world. I turn around and see it is actually a speaker on the gas pump blaring out the offending racket, which transitions into a load of advertising, "... come into the store and find wonderful crap you can buy to further your enjoyment of this visit to Shell Hell ..." I spent the last five minutes (slowest pump in the world and by design I reckon) with my hands clamped over the speaker and humming loudly.

Do that in my home town and you can bet that's one gas station I would never return to.

The train operators merely saw the word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197127)

"bone" followed by "conductor" and hoped right on board with the proposal.

Hello German train passengers we are sinking, I repeat we are sinking.
Vell.... vhat are you seenking about????

Emergency hammers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197217)

Conveniently DB trains are equipped with hammers for braking the windows in case of perceived emergency. Let's see if the ads pay for the window replacement costs.

Why stop there (5, Insightful)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | about a year ago | (#44197225)

Why not just go full Clockwork Orange and strap us down and pry our eyes open and force us to watch ads?

Ironically any product forced on me using this bone conduction method will just piss me off so much that it will leave me deliberately avoiding that product.

Re:Why stop there (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197345)

Why not just go full Clockwork Orange and strap us down and pry our eyes open and force us to watch ads?

Please don't give them ideas!

Re:Why stop there (1)

bestalexguy (959961) | about a year ago | (#44197609)

Ironically any product forced on me using this bone conduction method will just piss me off so much that it will leave me deliberately avoiding that product.

I'm afraid you belong in a negligible minority of people who don't love ads. Reluctant people like you will require more aggressive techniques. Just be patient and enjoy your current freedom.

Mediated Reality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197245)

You want to know how to fight advertising? Personal Mediated Reality. When you can choose what you experience in your day to day life you will be free of all this nonsense. I can't wait for the technology to evolve to a point where it is feasible.

Geordi's torture (1)

ichthus (72442) | about a year ago | (#44197253)

Reminds me of this scene from TNG [youtube.com] .

Better idea: Cancel engine noise (5, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#44197327)

You know what would be great, is if leaning my head against a window in a plane (or train) would, the fullest extent possible, emit a nose canceling signal that would cancel out engine noise from whatever I was traveling in.

Just throwing the idea out there in case some company would like positive, instead of negative, PR.

Re:Better idea: Cancel engine noise (1)

geek (5680) | about a year ago | (#44197763)

emit a nose canceling signal

Plastic surgeons everywhere will be terrified

Re:Better idea: Cancel engine noise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197813)

nose canceling signal

Your idea stinks.

Re:Better idea: Cancel engine noise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198301)

No, the train stinks, that's why you have the nose canceling signal

There is a reason we sleep on trains.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197329)

I know that after a long day at the factory (air-conditioned office), I occasionally like to nod off on the train.

Not only would this be a great annoyance, and kill my after-work nap, it seems like a massive invasion of privacy and personal space. I hate advertisements as much as the next bloke, but I do understand the reasoning behind it. But this just seems to cross a line that we don't want to cross. Not to go all 1984-paranoid here, but transmitting messages via bone conduction right into our heads is a bit concerning. Not to mention a great trigger device for paranoid schizophrenia....

Bad idea.

Pillows (1)

kangsterizer (1698322) | about a year ago | (#44197333)

Time to use pillows.

Re:Pillows (1)

geek (5680) | about a year ago | (#44197777)

Time to use pillows.

I hear pillows are pretty good for smothering people to death. I think the advertisers should be very afraid.

only one reaction is appropriate here (1)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year ago | (#44197383)

*BARF

Re:only one reaction is appropriate here (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44197599)

preferably on an ad.

simple solution (1)

stenvar (2789879) | about a year ago | (#44197391)

Scissors or a pocket knife, snip, and ... quiet.

Re:simple solution (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year ago | (#44197835)

I'm a mohel you insensitive clod!

Bring our own speakers to place against walls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44197459)

How about putting our own speakers against walls and transferring somewhat obscene lyrics. Enough people will complain and they'll stop that experiment very quickly.

Obligatory Futurama (2)

QilessQi (2044624) | about a year ago | (#44197841)

Fry: So you're telling me they broadcast commercials into people's dreams?

Leela: Of course.

Fry: But, how is that possible?

Farnsworth: It's very simple. The ad gets into your brain just like this liquid gets into this egg. [He holds up an egg and injects it with liquid. The egg explodes, covering him and Leela in yolk.] Although, in reality, it's not liquid, but gamma radiation.

Fry: That's awful. It's like brainwashing.

Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 20th century?

Fry: Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and at ball games, on buses and milk cartons and T-shirts and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams. No, sir-ee!

Someone hasn't thought this through (1)

wolfemi1 (765089) | about a year ago | (#44197905)

So I guess the operating idea here is that the people you WANT to be broadcasting ads to are the ones who are demonstrably trying to get some sleep?

Do they think that doing so will make people MORE likely to buy their advertised products? They may be in for a rude shock.

Re:Someone hasn't thought this through (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198345)

They aren't motivated for business reasons. They are motivated by schadenfreude.

Re:Someone hasn't thought this through (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198383)

There is no such thing as bad publicity.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to call someone to repair the front window that just received some customer feedback.

The best thing for crazy people... (2)

istartedi (132515) | about a year ago | (#44198041)

It's the best thing for crazy people since Blue Tooth headsets. Those allowed us to assume that you're talking to another person, even if you're talking to the elves who shine your shoes.

Now when you hear voices on the train, that'll be perfectly normal too.

I can't wait to have Monsters Inc (C) projected onto my retinas at inopportune times. Then spontaneous startled reactions and screaming for no apparent reason will be socially acceptable behavior.

I believe this is all part of some UN Convention and/or the Americans with Disabilities Act. It's a conspiracy and if you don't believe that you're a sheeple. Yep. The Internet's part of it too. This paragraph is perfectly normal on the Internet. 2nd best thing for crazy people, ever.

Obligitory Futurama Quotation (1)

eieken (635333) | about a year ago | (#44198335)

Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"

Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

Nice (1)

lapm (750202) | about a year ago | (#44198551)

I remember time when i you heard voices in your head, men with white coats came and locked you away for treatment. I wonder now if those were just government conspiracy to remove unwanted individuals from public.

Response (1)

fnj (64210) | about a year ago | (#44198679)

How do you say "conduct THIS" in nazi?

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