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The Nintendo Sequels We're Still Desperately Missing

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the mario-2-that's-not-an-awful-rebrand dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "While the Wii U struggles, Nintendo's been raiding the archives and resurrecting some of its lesser known stars from yesteryear, including Chibi Robo, Steel Diver, and yes, Mario's oft-ignored brother himself — the company is going so far as to call 2013 the "year of Luigi". But as an article published today points out, there are still many more forgotten heroes in Nintendo's IP back catalogue. Series like Excitebike, Waveracer and 1080 used to be trusted to launch a new console, while NES classics like Ice Climber have all but been forgotten, alongside some of GameFreal's lesser known creations. Will they be enough to save Nintendo this generation?"

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Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (-1, Troll)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year ago | (#44198563)

Can't we just sum it up by admitting that we are waiting for Nintendo to release a sequel to themselves that isn't as much of a fuckup?

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (3, Interesting)

newcastlejon (1483695) | about a year ago | (#44199219)

Speak for yourself. As far as I'm concerned the elephant in the room is "why are we still waiting for a new franchise?". I've had about as much Mario as I'm prepared to take and Zelda has already reach the point of diminishing returns.

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199677)

Speak for yourself. As far as I'm concerned the elephant in the room is "why are we still waiting for a new franchise?". I've had about as much Mario as I'm prepared to take and Zelda has already reach the point of diminishing returns.

Nonsense. There's plenty of life left in the Zelda franchise here's one invented on the spot:
The Dark Link Trilogy:
Zelda: Link's Adventure - the shadowy tale of "Evil" Link's origins (aka Dark Link) and escape from Imperial Link (Regular)
Zelda: Quest for the Princess - wherein Dark Link seeks to overthrow the Evil Princess Zelda's Autocratic Empire
Zelda: Dark War - where Dark Link allies with the Wizard Ganon to liberate the people of Hyrule from their Triforce enforced mind controlling Empire.

Come to think of it, Wario could do the same in the mushroom Kingdom. Or Bowser could build an army of koopa troopa's as an RTS...

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200169)

All I want from Zelda is another Link to the Past.

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (2)

Chaos Incarnate (772793) | about a year ago | (#44200517)

It's coming. [polygon.com]

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200749)

It can't be done because it's not 1992 anymore.

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44201151)

All I want from Zelda is for it to finally die. I loved the first three in the series, but when they switched over to 3D, it all went to shit. Enough is enough.

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (1)

LocalH (28506) | about a year ago | (#44201339)

You know, there were more than three 2D games.

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (3, Interesting)

redmid17 (1217076) | about a year ago | (#44201387)

The Ocarina of Time took the Zelda series to shit? You might be the only person in the world who holds that opinion.

Re:Don't forget the Elephant in the room... (1)

TheEyes (1686556) | about a year ago | (#44200891)

Someone has to get this [tumblr.com] into Nintendo's hands.

They need "NES-Era: The Sequel" (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44198589)

Things aren't looking so hot for them these days.

Re:They need "NES-Era: The Sequel" (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#44198669)

Things aren't looking so hot for them these days.

The future of gaming is mining the past. Has been for a while, but particularly more now as there were a lot of good ideas ages ago which the current crop of players have never seen.

Re:They need "NES-Era: The Sequel" (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about a year ago | (#44198763)

Thats the ol music industry's slogan,"There's always a new generation of suckers we can market a new boy band singing recycled music."

Part of me thinks WOW may never totally die as it has lived over 10 years. There will be a new generation who wants to try it.

Flash Indie games knows this concept too. People are remaking old Atari 2600 and NES games and making them free to play/advert/microtransactions. If the major players like NIntendo aren't going to give their player's old rom collections for free/cheap, there will be a short term market for indie devs to recode the past. Everything old is new again.

Re:They need "NES-Era: The Sequel" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198945)

Dude, Everquest is still going, as is Ultima Online

MMOs don't die, they fade away

Begging for a lawsuit (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44199177)

People are remaking old Atari 2600 and NES games and making them free to play/advert/microtransactions. If the major players like NIntendo aren't going to give their player's old rom collections for free/cheap, there will be a short term market for indie devs to recode the past. Everything old is new again.

Not necessarily. Anyone remaking old school Tetris, the game you remember from back before the "infinite spin" rule was added in 2001, is begging for a lawsuit.

Re:Begging for a lawsuit (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about a year ago | (#44199735)

Well to be fair if you remake ANY of the old titles exactly, you're probably going to get a lawsuit. But if you remake things game play, but have different graphics, music, etc, then you're set. I see a lot of good games coming out which are based on old games, but add new features. The bar for free games still isn't too high though, so its not like you even need a lot of new features yet.

Re:Begging for a lawsuit (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44200651)

But if you remake things game play, but have different graphics, music, etc, then you're set

The Tetris Company managed to win a lawsuit based mostly on having copied the piece set: all seven one-sided tetrominoes and no other shapes. See Tetris v. Xio [slashdot.org] from a year ago. Changing the piece set would affect the balance.

Re:Begging for a lawsuit (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about a year ago | (#44201219)

Well if you clone a game to the point where you are using the same art assets and game play, that is cloning. And it should be pretty obvious it is not allowed. You quoted me on remaking gameplay. Xio doesn't remake gameplay or graphics, it copied Tetris. It is different than say making a 2d block based platformer like Super Mario Bros, Mega Man, Castlevania or Metroid. Where you might get sued if you started incorporating goombas to jump on and your main dude is a pallete swapped Mario.

Star Fox, Super Punch Out (4, Insightful)

cheesybagel (670288) | about a year ago | (#44198591)

Those seem fine. Some of the other titles mentioned here are more stale than piss.

This is the XXIst century. People do not have a lot of time to invest in console games a lot of the time. So a shoot'em'up or boxing game sounds like a pretty good idea.

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44198633)

And is it just me or do their WiiU games look basically exactly the same as their Wii games, which looked exactly the same as their GameCube games, which looked exactly the same as pretty much everything they've done since the 90's? Aside from some minor touch-ups and HD upconversion, I can't really tell 2013 Mario from SNES Mario.

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (5, Interesting)

AuMatar (183847) | about a year ago | (#44199099)

And the problem is? Nintendo is still making games that are fun. Most of the others aren't. For all the super realistic graphics on the other consoles, I enjoy myself a lot more when I grab my wii. All the extra graphics on the other consoles do is bloat the cost by 300%, making game devs less likely to take chances and reducing the number of types of games we can play. I think the gaming world would be better off if 3d had never been invented.

Gatekeepers' share; alternatives to 3D (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44199205)

I enjoy myself a lot more when I grab my wii.

That can be so taken the wrong way [tvtropes.org] .

All the extra graphics on the other consoles do is bloat the cost by 300%

By how many percent do the publisher's share and the console maker's share bloat the cost?

I think the gaming world would be better off if 3d had never been invented.

Other than with a first- or third-person 3D view, how should a game show both close-up objects and far-off objects?

Re:Gatekeepers' share; alternatives to 3D (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199417)

"Other than with a first- or third-person 3D view, how should a game show both close-up objects and far-off objects?"

With a minimap.

Re:Gatekeepers' share; alternatives to 3D (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#44200687)

Good luck being able to steer a race car on a minimap. There's a reason that almost everything since Pole Position has used a third-person behind-the-car viewpoint with few exceptions (R/C Pro-Am, Micro Machines, and Rock n Roll Racing).

Re:Gatekeepers' share; alternatives to 3D (2)

tibman (623933) | about a year ago | (#44201027)

Micro Machines! Oh god, multiplayer mode my face hurt from laughing.

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199431)

"Nintendo is still making games that are fun. Most of the others aren't."

Disagree big time. Darksiders is where Zelda should have gone long ago. Zelda is practically not even a game anymore because the challenge has been reduced to retard level. Zelda 1 + 2 were actually challenging, when LTTP showed up (SNES zelda) challenge fell off a cliff. OoT redeemed zelda somewhat despite being easy it was well made. But all Zelda's thereafter were average to mediocre.

Let's not remember the horrible thing they did to Starfox franchise, chaning dinosaur planet into Starfox Adventures, then the huge botched job Starfox assault ended up being.

I'm sorry to say but most games in Nintendo's main franchises have started to have sever quality problems outside maybe mario. almost ALL nintendo franchises are slowly deflating in quality. The reason they sell is the influx of newer generations without prior gaming experience.

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200855)

Alundra was a better Zelda than Zelda.

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | about a year ago | (#44200941)

But how can you possibly say it's led other game devs to become risk-adverse and reduce the number of types of games we play in comparison, when Nintendo just releases the same games over and over and over?

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44201323)

I enjoy myself a lot more when I grab my wii.

I hear that.

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (2)

Doug Otto (2821601) | about a year ago | (#44198727)

Do a barrel roll!

Re: Star Fox, Super Punch Out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199381)

Oh boy yes, punchout

Re:Star Fox, Super Punch Out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199981)

I'm still waiting for Star Fox Adventures Xtreme Beach Volleyball.

JUST SAY NO TO NINTENDO !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198593)

It is one POS !!

Castlevania, can you stop the 3d failures? (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about a year ago | (#44198651)

Castlevania 1 (nesbar.com) was a great game. Castlevania 2 was fun and easy, if you know the trick to kneel at the right place. Castlevania 3 was pretty fun with several characters to choose from. Castlevania 4 for SNES was pretty fun. Castlevania Symphony of Night is generally regarded as one of the best Castlevanias of all time even demanding like 100$ for a copy. But all the 3d attempts have been failures across the board.

What Castlevania should do is make a giant game like Symphony of Night again, only bigger and more dependent on your RPG stats to do well at the end game. The trick would then be to make the grind not feel grindy, such as lots of mini levels you can go on before forwarding your main progression levels.

I think if Castlevania doesn't do it themselves, there's going to be an indie developer who strikes gold. There's even a term called MetroidVania of the side scrolling games, and people are making stabs at it. I just would think Konami has deep enough pockets to afford all the art to make a large scale game.

Re:Castlevania, can you stop the 3d failures? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44198765)

of course there's metroidvania term because symphony of the night is basically souped up super metroid.

but it's not a Nintendo title.

Re:Castlevania, can you stop the 3d failures? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198789)

Here're a couple I found by googling on 'castlevania roguelike'. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-13-chasm-is-polished-looking-castlevania-esque-rogulike-on-kickstarter which is somewhat Castlevania-ish but not completely and http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php?title=CastlevaniaRL (but the latter is top-down view. I became frustrated with my weak character deaths and stopped playing.) I agree with you, though.

Nintendo DS castlevanias (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199279)

Are like SON

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Dawn_of_Sorrow

and there was 2 other ones - all great fun games.

The problem is Nintendo needs to do one of these well done on their new consoles.

Re:Castlevania, can you stop the 3d failures? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200773)

You might want to check out Koumajo Densetsu II: Stranger's Requiem for the pc, and track down a copy of Castlevania: Rondo of Blood for the psp. Both are fantastic games that should satisfy your need for more Castlevania.

Re:Castlevania, can you stop the 3d failures? (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | about a year ago | (#44200817)

I think the biggest issue is just finding ways to add enough to that formula to get people interested. I loved the early castlevania games but I don't really know what it'd take to get me interested in buying a new one. I'd want something other than more of the same, but also not straying too far away from that old formula. I can see why people like me would be really hard to target with that. Still, I felt the same way about ghosts n' goblins. And the psp game actually did manage to balance novelty and nostalgia enough to make me enjoy it.

Chrono trigger (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44198703)

Where is Chrono trigger?

Re:Chrono trigger (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44198781)

Where is Chrono trigger?

on some system square is publishing for? I don't know how you would make a sequel for a game that spans the entire history of the world though. I guess you could make the hero's teleport accidentally to New York or some cheapshot like that.

Re:Chrono trigger (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about a year ago | (#44198915)

Where is Chrono trigger?

Virtual Console? Chrono Cross has, I believe, been re-released as a PSone Classic on the PS3/PSP/PS Vita as well.

Re:Chrono trigger (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year ago | (#44199033)

There was nothing classic about Chrono Trigger on the PSOne, unless you like mindnumbing load times every time you paused the game.

Re:Chrono trigger (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about a year ago | (#44199133)

Chrono *Cross*, not Trigger. Although you can get the PSOne version of Trigger too. The load times might be better from the memory/hard disk, but you're still probably better off with the Virtual Console.

Re:Chrono trigger (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year ago | (#44199493)

Chrono TRIGGER came out on the PSOne as part of a compilation, but had a nasty bug where pausing or entering a battle scene triggered a literally 10+ second load time which made the game unplayable.

Cross may also have had that problem but I doubt it.

Re:Chrono trigger (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | about a year ago | (#44200051)

Unplayable is an exaggeration. Annoying, yes. Ialso don't think it was 10 seconds.

Re:Chrono trigger (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199687)

Also re-released for DS.

Excitebike? Do your homework. (4, Informative)

medv4380 (1604309) | about a year ago | (#44198731)

Look, if you're going to make a claim that they should resurrect old and dusty IP you might actually bother to look to see if they haven't already re-released it on prior systems.
Excitebike - 1984
Excitebike 64 - 2000
Classic NES Series: Excitebike - 2004
Excitebike - 2007
Excitebike: World Rally - 2009
3D Classics: Excitebike - 2011
1080: TenEighty Snowboarding - 1998
1080 Avalanche - 2003
1080: TenEighty Snowboarding - 2008

Re:Excitebike? Do your homework. (2)

TemporalBeing (803363) | about a year ago | (#44199035)

Look, if you're going to make a claim that they should resurrect old and dusty IP you might actually bother to look to see if they haven't already re-released it on prior systems. Excitebike - 1984 Excitebike 64 - 2000 Classic NES Series: Excitebike - 2004 Excitebike - 2007 Excitebike: World Rally - 2009 3D Classics: Excitebike - 2011 1080: TenEighty Snowboarding - 1998 1080 Avalanche - 2003 1080: TenEighty Snowboarding - 2008

But none of those really have one of the major features of ExciteBike - building your own track. Yes, I love racing games, but I want to build my own tracks too.

Re:Excitebike? Do your homework. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199161)

But none of those really have one of the major features of ExciteBike - building your own track. Yes, I love racing games, but I want to build my own tracks too.

That feature would have been a lot more awesome if you could actually save your work. You could do it if you have the cassette recorder peripheral for the Famicom in Japan, but the rest of us were screwed.

Re:Excitebike? Do your homework. (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | about a year ago | (#44200075)

Not tape recorder, I think you mean the Famicom Disk System.

Re:Excitebike? Do your homework. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200427)

Excitebike used the casettes actually (the FDS took up the cartridge slot so it can't be used with cartridge games).

Even then, merely building a track by entering random letters was probably fun enough on its own, even if the changes were lost. You had like 16 pieces maximum anyway, so not really much of a problem, and each piece was named after a letter.

Re:Excitebike? Do your homework. (1)

LocalH (28506) | about a year ago | (#44201359)

There's a patch [goondocks.se] that modifies the game to save/load from SRAM instead of the tape recorder.

Re:Excitebike? Do your homework. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199985)

Not to mention Excite Truck [wikipedia.org] and Excitebots [wikipedia.org] .

Excite Truck was one of the best Wii launch titles. Hell, I'll still play that long after the novelty of Twilight Princess has passed. Stay the hell away from Excitebots though as it has terrible "additions" added to it like waggling the controller to 'walk' and the dreaded red bar.

Can't this be automated? (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year ago | (#44198737)

1) List all brands Nintendo has shipped
2) Count how many variations of the brand shipped (NES, SNES, SNES spin-off), store as Editions
3) If Editions > 2 and the brand is not shipping on Wii...
4) Crap out Wii edition of brand, cross fingers

seal clubbing eskimos.. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44198745)

just might not sound so cute to PC Nintendo nowadays.

(or furries as in the modified version)

also, please limit discussion to Nintendo titles. not Capcom or Konami! thing is, Nintendo themselves made just a handful of games and nobody knows what name to call the little pricks in Ice Climber anyways.

so you have Samus, Link and Mario/Luigi.. and they don't seem to be missing.

I heard Kid Icarus is making a comeback though?

Re:seal clubbing eskimos.. (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year ago | (#44199411)

nobody knows what name to call the little pricks in Ice Climber anyways.

Canonically (inasmuch as a non-story driven came has a canon), Popo (blue) and Nana (pink).

Waiting (1)

decipher_saint (72686) | about a year ago | (#44198799)

So there are a slew of fun looking games that are a long way off with nothing really amazing standing out to fill the void in the meantime, this is the same holding position they've been in since launch for the most part.

Other next gen consoles don't really seem that appealing to me, especially now that there are so many great titles on PC.

I was playing Mighty Switch Force the other day and thinking what a missed opportunity Nintendo had for creating a real space for indie developers to get into, but from what I understand getting on the Nintendo eShop is not exactly easy or profitable.

Ah well, at least Steam Summer Sale is just around the corner!

How about (1)

Guspaz (556486) | about a year ago | (#44198855)

Mario RPG? They claim Paper Mario was the spiritual successor, but having played both, that's like saying that System Shock 2 was the spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger...

I mean, "Side scrolling Mario game with some RPG elements" doesn't mean make it even remotely similar to what was in effect "Final Fantasy: Mario".

Re:How about (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year ago | (#44199139)

Mario RPG was excellent, the Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi games are fun in their own ways, but they're nothing like Super Mario RPG. A sequel similar to Kingdom Hearts would be pretty fun... Assuming SE puts in likable characters and not the emotional, over-dramatic teens that they seem so fond of designing of late...

Re:How about (1)

Guspaz (556486) | about a year ago | (#44199363)

Yeah, don't get me wrong, Paper Mario wasn't a bad game, I just think it was silly to call it the spiritual successor (or even direct sequel, since Paper Mario was originally called "Super Mario RPG 2" until they realized they couldn't legally call it that without Square's involvement).

Can you mention NES sequels without (3, Informative)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | about a year ago | (#44198967)

...mentioning Megaman Sequelitis [youtube.com] ? Not sure. Anyway be careful where you play this because IIRC there is lots of swearing. But pretty amazing game dissection.

Even before those... (1)

jeffasselin (566598) | about a year ago | (#44199007)

There's no 3D Mario, no Zelda, no Metroid game.

Those are the reasons I buy Nintendo consoles. I have a Wii U only because I won it at a trade show, otherwise I would not yet have bought one until at least one of those is released.

Re:Even before those... (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year ago | (#44199339)

Yeah, I'm not sure why Nintendo released the Wii U (and the 3DS) so soon with really no good games. I'm going to buy a Wii U (just like I bought a 3DS) but I see no point in shelling out $300 for a system that I'd just play one or two games on (New Mario Bros 2 and maybe Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate) until the rest of the games that I want to play come out.

The 3DS had exactly the same problem, it launched with no games of note and for the first 6 months or so of its existence its flagship title was a remake of a game from 1998. Now it has a large selection of excellent titles, Super Mario 3D Land, Fire Emblem: Awakening, Mario Kart 7, Tales of the Abyss, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, etc. but for the first year, there were really no reasons to buy it.

Blaster Master? (1)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about a year ago | (#44199037)

Blaster Master? Whar sequel WAHR?

Still the best game music of all time, and fuck all y'all saying God of War.

Re:Blaster Master? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44199289)

That game is by Sunsoft, not Nintendo, which is why Nintendo can not actually create a Sequel.
Not to forget that there is a Blaster Master II on the Sega Mega Drive / Genesis.

Re:Blaster Master? (1)

rwa2 (4391) | about a year ago | (#44200409)

Never played it, but enjoyed reading about it in the magazines back when I was a kid.

I'd like to see more Iron Tank / Great Tank (JP) .... that was one of my favorites back in the day. Probably couldn't compete with World of Tanks nowadays, but it's not like they have a console port yet (though sounds like they're in Beta for Xbox now).

There are a lot of even older games that I'm somewhat nostalgic for and haven't found modern equivalents ... Radar Rat Race? Moon Patrol? Clowns?

Re:Blaster Master? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200477)

There was a sequel to Blaster Master. [wikipedia.org] It was critically panned and commercially unsuccessful.

Rehashes? Please no! (2)

blackraven14250 (902843) | about a year ago | (#44199181)

There's a reason Steam is so popular now, and there's one word to describe it - indie. Indie games are innovative, not rehashed concepts everyone's seen before, and are taking over because of attitudes like the one in the article. It's cool if you can take a game like Excitebike and toss a bunch of new concepts and mechanics into it to make it innovative again, but the way forward isn't rehashes for the sake of rehashes.

Innovation? Rarely. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200083)

Innovative?
Sorry, but that is not true.
A lot of indie games are just yet another Metroidvania Platformer / Smash TV reinterpretation / Roguelike-inspired Dungeon Crawler / Action Platforming Game.
Of course there are indeed indie games that innovate but those are rare. The sheer majority are just reinventing the wheel.

Re:Innovation? Rarely. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200937)

Of course there are indeed indie games that innovate but those are rare. The sheer majority are just reinventing the wheel.

Compared to recent non-indie games? It's a cornucopia of innovation. Would you write off Binding of Isaac as 'just yet another Smash TV reinterpretation?'

Re:Rehashes? Please no! (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | about a year ago | (#44200903)

Innovation?
"It's like Super Mario Brothers, but with a twist!"

Re:Rehashes? Please no! (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year ago | (#44200983)

There's a reason Steam is so popular now, and there's one word to describe it - indie.

I think it's more the 75% off sales. Or the fact that it's closest competitor, Origin, is too late to the game and doesn't really offer anything better than Steam, aside from a few exclusive EA games and a worse reputation. I don't think greenlight is that big of a draw for most people.

Birdo? (1)

proverbialcow (177020) | about a year ago | (#44199191)

The article suggests a game based on Birdo, but how about a sequel to Doki Doki Panic (SMB2)? I'd play the hell out of that.

Re:Birdo? (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year ago | (#44199263)

I'd expect that a sequel to Doki Doki Panic would be stuck in legal hell for quite some time since its based off of Fuji Television characters (and I'd imagine they'd have to change this graphic for an international release http://strategywiki.org/wiki/File:Doki_Doki_Panic_head.png [strategywiki.org] ).

Re:Birdo? (1)

SQLGuru (980662) | about a year ago | (#44199515)

Pilotwings......

I'd buy it.

Enough sequels (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year ago | (#44199233)

We've had enough sequels with Nintendo, what we really need is more original games. Yeah, its fun playing Mario/Zelda/Metroid every generation, but there's only so much you can do with them before you totally destroy continuity and cohesion as a series. Either that or do what they've done with Fire Emblem and make it be more like Final Fantasy where each game has some tie-ins (similar weapons, the Fire Emblem, a couple of references) but each game is mostly stand alone and so they're free to add and remove features at will and it doesn't really make the game feel any less of a Fire Emblem game.

I mean, there's some good concepts out there, but they feel shoehorned in a universe where they don't belong for example, Zelda: Spirit Tracks.

While Nintendo certainly shouldn't forget its classics, there is a need for fresh blood.

Re:Enough sequels (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about a year ago | (#44199527)

I agree completely. Enough sequels, updated versions, rereleases, 3D versions, reimaginings. reboots, reloads, and blatant knockoffs.
Do something original!

an ideacould pull in (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44199349)

Instead of crapifying old titles (castlevania 3d metroid 3d??? ugh), how about picking up some good indie titles. I do not play much any more but I am sure there are that can make the system compelling.

Re:an ideacould pull in (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | about a year ago | (#44199413)

Hey, Metroid Prime was very good.

(MP2, not so much, they really fucked up the pacing.)

Re:an ideacould pull in (1)

Dragonslicer (991472) | about a year ago | (#44199777)

Hey, Metroid Prime was very good.

(MP2, not so much, they really fucked up the pacing.)

I still think Echoes was good, though I agree that it was probably the weakest of the three. I thought Corruption was great, too.

Arm Wrestling. (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | about a year ago | (#44199499)

With the Wii and even the DS it's suprising it hasn't even been redone.

Give me (1)

smg5266 (2440940) | about a year ago | (#44199543)

Smash bros

Skies of Arcadia (3, Insightful)

failedlogic (627314) | about a year ago | (#44199581)

Skies of Arcadia. I know it was originally a Dreamcast game and ported to Gamecube. I had it on my GC. That game was by far the most fun RPG (and probably video game) I've ever played.

I'd also recommend remaking River City Ransom. I know there's been some remakes and some clones. But that game was special and deserves a proper remake.

Re:Skies of Arcadia (2)

hibiki_r (649814) | about a year ago | (#44199819)

The people that made Skies of Arcadia are known for pushing their games on the least successful platform available. After betting on the gamecube, they released Valkyria Chronicles in the PS3 (Back when it was a billion dollars). Then, when it started becoming popular, they released the sequel on the PSP!

At this rate, I expect their next game will be released for the Ouya and the N-Gage.

They need to spend their money (2)

shigutso (2932389) | about a year ago | (#44199961)

Nintendo got a lot of money from the DS and the Wii. They need to spend all that stuff in updating all their franchies. The 3DS is fine. The Wii U needs more software and more features. Their hardware may not be powerful, but can do a lot of stuff.

Updated Wii Sports (1)

jfdavis668 (1414919) | about a year ago | (#44200017)

It's the original reason people bought a Wii. Create a HD version, and lets start whipping controllers at the TV again.

Re:Updated Wii Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200913)

If people wanted Wii Sports they could just take their Wii out of the back of their closets.

DK64 (1)

n30na (1525807) | about a year ago | (#44200057)

I feel like if we're going to talk about this, we need to mention Donkey Kong 64. That was an excellent game, and while the recent DKC games have been neat, seeing DK return to 3D platforming would be awesome. And while i'm wishing, a more classic-style paper mario.

Already was an Excitebike sequel (1)

Horshu (2754893) | about a year ago | (#44200061)

It's called "Trials HD". And there was another sequel after that.

Main-series Pokemon game? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200069)

The Pokemon series is still going strong on the handhelds. I think one of the biggest disappointments to the competitve Pokemon battling community was the lack of a "Gen V" Pokemon battling game for the Wii/Wii-U. Pokemon Battle Revolution [wikipedia.org] may have been utter crap story-wise, but you could produce some nice looking videos by recording it.

The elephant missing in the room (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200221)

Mother / Earthbound

Pokemon the MMORPG (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year ago | (#44200435)

What Nintendo needs and has needed for 10 years is a MMORPG based on Pokemon.

Re:Pokemon the MMORPG (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200605)

I still feel that if they'd hit the market with this at the right time (though it's hard to say exactly when that was), they could have out-competed WoW for the MMORPG market.

Re:Pokemon the MMORPG (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200625)

Would you be the Pokemon trying to avoid confinement in the tiny balls while trying to live life in your natural habitat?

Re:Pokemon the MMORPG (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44201271)

My guess? Square must have patented FFXI's autotranslator [ffxiclopedia.org] thingy, and having that predefined phraseage is probably the only way anyone could think of to keep people from telling kids they've got awesome pokemon to show them. In their pants.

Re:Pokemon the MMORPG (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44201381)

THIS. I would buy the shit out of a nintendo if this existed.

Adventures of Lolo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200519)

I've always wondered why Nintendo never released any more Lolo games after the original trilogy on the NES. (They were made by HAL Laboratory, which is owned by Nintendo.)

My dad would say Wrecking Crew (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200559)

He played that game for years.

Waveracer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44200601)

I would be first in line to by Waveracer. That game for GameCube was AWESOME.

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