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Conversion to foot (5, Funny)

Conversion Bot v2 (2975137) | about 10 months ago | (#44204737)

If you were wondering, 5200 meters is about 17 ft. That is 19 ft above sea level.

Re:Conversion to foot (2)

erpbridge (64037) | about 10 months ago | (#44204775)

If you were wondering, 5200 meters is about 17 ft. That is 19 ft above sea level.

Yeah, you might want to double check that. More like 17k (thousand) ft. Not 17 feet, the height of my ladder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everest_Base_Camp [wikipedia.org]

Re:Conversion to foot (4, Funny)

jonbryce (703250) | about 10 months ago | (#44204803)

17060 feet. You wouldn't per chance work for NASA?

Re:Conversion to foot (4, Informative)

erpbridge (64037) | about 10 months ago | (#44204839)

Having thought about it, guessing he was talking about 5,200 meters with the thinking that in certain places in the world, they use a comma rather than a decimal point to represent the division between partial units. In that case, 5,200 metres = 5.200 meters = 17.0604 feet = 17,0604 feet in that particular case.

But Everest Base camp (either south or north, both on a fairly broad area) are most certainly not a handful of meters above sea level.

Re:Conversion to foot (1)

cheesybagel (670288) | about 10 months ago | (#44204979)

That is why when talking with people in the Internet you should never, ever use the thousand unit separator. At most you can use space as a separator. At least that one is not likely to be mistaken for the unit separator.

Re:Conversion to foot (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 10 months ago | (#44205425)

That is why when talking with people in the Internet you should never, ever use the thousand unit separator.

This is why on Slashdot, you should always use the "E" notation for floating point numbers. Example: 5.2e3 meters. Completely unambiguous to any Slashdotter.

Re:Conversion to foot (1)

Kidbro (80868) | about 10 months ago | (#44205865)

Example: 5.2e3 meters.

Looks hexadecimal to me.

Completely unambiguous to any Slashdotter.

For sure! :)

Be careful (5, Informative)

lesincompetent (2836253) | about 10 months ago | (#44204767)

Video streaming? Only if you get proper authorization [bbc.co.uk] first!

Re:Be careful (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204829)

A nice turn-around about the mindset the local bureaucrats originally had, unless their motivation is to charge filming fees for each video call.

Re:Be careful (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 months ago | (#44204853)

A nice turn-around about the mindset the local bureaucrats originally had, unless their motivation is to charge filming fees for each video call.

well, I don't see why wouldn't be motivated to charge filming fees for each call.

also they might be motivated to not allow people to live stream their deaths and pictures of the bodies - you know, that the booming mount everest climbing industry doesn't take a hit.

roaming costs are higher then that fee (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#44204941)

roaming costs are higher then that fee.

A video call at $15-$20 a meg.

Re: roaming costs are higher then that fee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205011)

So? Climbing Everest isn't free. These people pay through the ass just to prepare to make the climb. They'd drop $1k without blinking to send a short video to all the people in their social group that they're trying to one-up.

WTF.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204779)

Why is it I live in England, and get a worse internet connection than a mountain!?

Re:WTF.. (3, Insightful)

AK Marc (707885) | about 10 months ago | (#44205053)

Because the mountain is famous.

Re:WTF.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205517)

So is England.

Re:WTF.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205687)

The Sun never setting on Britain's empire is a faded memory when it ended a very long time ago; England is perceived as just another back water pub. You need to let it go.

Re:WTF.. (2)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 months ago | (#44205799)

The Sun never setting on Britain's empire is a faded memory when it ended a very long time ago; England is perceived as just another back water pub. You need to let it go.

hard to let it go I suppose when Everest is named by brits and stories about it keep coming up, that's why we call it mount everest and everyone calls it that and not some actual tsinkelotonkelo native name.

(last I checked the sun never set in the empire, too)

Look at me, everybody! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204799)

This is me up at base camp at 18000 ft! Here are my fellow trekkers and the Sherpas. What a wild and crazy bunch we are! Wait, let me stand back and give you a better view of them. Look at them now! LoooooooOOOOOOOOOOK

oooout

(below)

Other way around (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204817)

Oh, thought it was for the climbers to view porn.

Re:Other way around (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205509)

As a bonus, you can enjoy slow, auto-erotic asphyxiation white masturbating.

meters? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204821)

not everybody uses meters
5,200 meters = 17,060 feet or 3.23 miles

Re:meters? (4, Informative)

chilvence (1210312) | about 10 months ago | (#44204901)

Feet are deprecated. You are welcome to make your own conversion :)

Re:meters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205419)

For how much longer can we walk on deprecated feet? And will they be replaced by something else, or will they remain deprecated for years like many things Linux?

[900.000001] "How dare you use me! I'VE BEEN DEPRECATED! I'VE BEEN DEPRECATED!"
[900.000002] localhost: foot[2]: message repeated 300 times

Re:meters? (1)

Psychotria (953670) | about 10 months ago | (#44206865)

The word, if you're referring to a standard of measurement, is metre(s). A meter is a device that measures things and also a term used in music. I know that American spelling uses meter but they really are two different things and deservedly have two different words internationally.

Mount Everest is a fucking joke (0)

Adult film producer (866485) | about 10 months ago | (#44204855)

You're not impressing anybody by climbing this joke of a mountain.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (1)

Scutter (18425) | about 10 months ago | (#44204907)

How is it a "joke of a mountain"?

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204995)

How is it a "joke of a mountain"?

The mountain is covered in feces: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/05/130515-mount-everest-biogas-energy/

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205349)

Because these days, anyone with enough money can make the attempt, experienced or not. And look at this picture [outsideonline.com] and tell me that summiting isn't mundane these days. Hell, I personally know 3 people who have summitted, and I live in a relatively small town.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (1)

Scutter (18425) | about 10 months ago | (#44205415)

So, your contention is that it's "too easy" to climb and therefore the mountain itself is some kind of absurdity? You must hate every minor hill on the planet.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206903)

No. My contention is that it's not the exotic, rarefied experience it once was. Now, it's just a more dangerous version of Disney World, just less expensive.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (4, Informative)

Dzimas (547818) | about 10 months ago | (#44204997)

3,142 people have summited Everest a total of 5,104 times. Two hundred and nineteen people have lost their lives, with a quarter dying after reaching the summit. That's a 6.97% fatality rate. It's hardly something to joke about.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205033)

3,142 people have summited Everest

That's not just PI, but a thousand times PI!

Great timing by the editors for this story on /.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206291)

Fuck those niggers. Let 'em die like that bitch Trayvon.

Bad math (2)

Solandri (704621) | about 10 months ago | (#44206641)

3,142 people have summited Everest a total of 5,104 times. Two hundred and nineteen people have lost their lives, with a quarter dying after reaching the summit. That's a 6.97% fatality rate.

No it's not. You're using the wrong denominator. If you're going to use the number of times Everest has been summitted as the denominator, then you need to compare to deaths among those who reached the summit. A quarter of 219 = 55. 55/5104 = 1.1% fatality rate.

If you're going to calculate a fatality rate based on the total 219 people who died (regardless of whether they failed or succeeded), then you need to compare it to the total number of people who've attempted to summit Everest (regardless of whether they failed or succeeded).

Things are different today ... (1)

drnb (2434720) | about 10 months ago | (#44206757)

3,142 people have summited Everest a total of 5,104 times. Two hundred and nineteen people have lost their lives, with a quarter dying after reaching the summit. That's a 6.97% fatality rate. It's hardly something to joke about.

With today's ultralight gear and portable O2 its not quite the same climb that it used to be. And if you are paying a "guide" to carry your gear and extra O2 tanks its even less so. Not everyone who get their photo taken at the summit has "truly" climbed Everest.

Re:Things are different today ... (1, Funny)

Psychotria (953670) | about 10 months ago | (#44206871)

Yep. gcc -O2 makes a huge difference.

Re:Things are different today ... (1)

drnb (2434720) | about 10 months ago | (#44206939)

Yep. gcc -O2 makes a huge difference.

Perhaps in George Mallory's day, but any serious modern climber will be using clang -O2.

Re:Mount Everest is a fucking joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205079)

It is still extremely physically demanding but this sort of thing is killing what little wilderness feel was left and turning it more and more into a circus. I'd be embarrassed at this point to climb it.

Better use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204873)

I wonder if there would of been "better" places to expand the 4G network?

Re:Better use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205051)

I wonder if there would have been "better" places to expand the 4G network?

Re:Better use? (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 10 months ago | (#44205153)

No matter what China does, the world still considers them a "cheap" country with low quality and no industry leadership. Putting the first 4G on Everest counts as a win against that. Gets Chinese innovation in the news, and help dispel the myth that China exists only to fill Wal-Mart's shelves.

What "better" place do you suggest for that?

Re:Better use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205893)

What a weird thing to write. If they are "cheap" country what does it say about you when you export pretty much your entire manufacturing base out to them? They are known for low quality work but its all for EXPORT and all controled by FOREIGN companies (can you name a product you ever brought from a Chinese company without a domestic middleman?). As long as it saves 5 cents its OK for Americans to lose their jobs and for the quality to fall? China fills a lot more shelves then walmart.

Re:Better use? (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 10 months ago | (#44206681)

What a weird thing to write.

Your reading comprehension doesn't affect the meaning. They are known for "cheap knockoffs" more than anything else. The country of piracy, lead children toys, and all that. I helped a friend with a translation. The Lewisville Lizards placed an order for stuffed lizards. "cheapest material possible" I'm sure they got what they asked for, and will forever blame China for giving them what they asked for (well, would if they weren't a defunct one-season team with no league).

I said nothing to indicate that the moniker was earned, and I even put it in quotes. Your inability to understand what's written doesn't mean I said something other than what I meant. They are perceived to be cheap, and that does affect their auto export business, or router export business. And if you look at the negative comments against China recently (even within the other comments in this article), it seems that the perception is a modern one, not a forgotten holdover from the 1980s.

Re:Better use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206799)

You are right, perhaps i misinterpreted your meaning but I see a lot of "anti-china" posts with no factual backing. I'm certainly not going to claim they are a fantastic place, but sometimes people look for them to place blame (scapegoat). My personal opinion is more things should be manufactured domestically. I'd love to see the actual cost differences between made in china vs made in North America. You look at the huge profits of Walmart and have to wonder if that profit was reduced how much could the costs go up (to justify local labor).

Well, there goes another safe place. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204887)

I have Wireless Sensitivity Disorder, and now I can't even go to fucking Mount Everest to get away from it all?

Damn it, I'm just living in a Faraday Cage from now on....

Re: Well, there goes another safe place. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206109)

But how will you keep touch with Slashdot?

Re: Well, there goes another safe place. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44207241)

Pigeons.

Verizon sucks (1)

hawguy (1600213) | about 10 months ago | (#44204889)

Verizon can't provide any 4G, or even reliable 3G coverage in my neighborhood, yet Everest climbers have good enough 4G coverage to stream HD video!?

Re:Verizon sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204991)

Score for the Chinese and their companies.

Re:Verizon sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205905)

They also do some pretty nice trains [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Verizon sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205279)

As soon as there's a massive PR opportunity to gain from covering your neighbourhood, your first world problem will be solved in no time.

Re:Verizon sucks (2)

TubeSteak (669689) | about 10 months ago | (#44205867)

Verizon can't provide any 4G, or even reliable 3G coverage in my neighborhood, yet Everest climbers have good enough 4G coverage to stream HD video!?

The topography is favorable, the max user load is easily estimated, and the telco gets good PR out of it.
I doubt your neighborhood can claim 2/3 of those things.

Re:Verizon sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206819)

The topography is favorable, the max user load is easily estimated, and the telco gets good PR out of it.
I doubt your neighborhood can claim 2/3 of those things.

In other words, it all comes out of the advertising budget. Heaven forbid they actually try to provide service to people who need it when they can grow the brand with a publicity stunt.

Starbucks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44204915)

So next thing will be to put a coffee shop on the South Col so people can spend hours there hogging tables with their laptops.

This will work with....? (1)

wjcofkc (964165) | about 10 months ago | (#44204921)

Considering that people visit and climb everest from all over the world with phones from all carriers (including phones without SIM cards), wouldn't adding extensive wifi not make more sense? At least I'm guessing that these 4g towers will only work with Huawei as individual 4g implementations tend to be carrier specific. It would be nice to know that I could bring my Sprint phone to Everest and be able to stream, blog, and Skype with it. I'm not saying you can't have 4g also, but if it's limited to a single carrier, it is, well... limited.

Re:This will work with....? (2)

fred911 (83970) | about 10 months ago | (#44205025)

The US is the only country with CDMA phones. ROW uses sim based GSM phones.

Re:This will work with....? (1)

wjcofkc (964165) | about 10 months ago | (#44205071)

Thank you for clarifying that. It also occurs to me that in order to have wifi, you would also first need some sort of other broadband internet in place... so I guess that's that.

Re:This will work with....? (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 10 months ago | (#44205183)

When the rest of the world used CDMA (and they do), they used CDMA2000, and used SIMs with CDMA. So don't bash CDMA for a US market failure.

Re:This will work with....? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206233)

The US is the only country with CDMA phones. ROW uses sim based GSM phones.

You might wanna tell that to the countries on this list [cdg.org] . Or are they all owned by the US?

Re:This will work with....? (1)

scream at the sky (989144) | about 10 months ago | (#44206951)

Bell and Telus in Canada maintain a fairly extensive CDMA network, even though it has been largely deprecated with an HSPA overlay that is compatible with 3G / 4G / LTE as well.

Re:This will work with....? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205295)

Huawei is a manufacturer, not a carrier, though?

This vaguely bothers me (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 10 months ago | (#44204951)

Problem is, I know that adding this makes sense from a safety perspective, and it might even save lives. But my gut tells me it's taking something away from the adventure, the essence of the human experience that drives men and women to attempt dangerous feats and explore the unknown.

Re:This vaguely bothers me (1)

jjohnson (62583) | about 10 months ago | (#44205047)

The sense of adventure in climbing Everest was wounded when they started having traffic jams on the way to the summit, and finally killed when an 80 year old man summited, while being chased by his 81 year old rival. It's a fucking tourist destination now, albeit one that periodically suffers mass casualty events.

Re:This vaguely bothers me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205691)

The sense of adventure in climbing Everest was wounded when they started having traffic jams on the way to the summit, and finally killed when an 80 year old man summited, while being chased by his 81 year old rival. It's a fucking tourist destination now, albeit one that periodically suffers mass casualty events.

So, like Bali, but with more snow and less oxygen.

Re:This vaguely bothers me (1)

memnock (466995) | about 10 months ago | (#44206897)

... albeit one that periodically suffers mass casualty events.

Sounds like the adventure still exists to some extent.

Based on recent media, Everest does sound like it's turned into some kind of tourist trap, instead of a remote, arduous frontier. What frontiers remain that haven't turned into prime time television scenery?

What the hell for? (0)

Viol8 (599362) | about 10 months ago | (#44205005)

Isn't part of the point of visiting a remote location such as this the fact that you're at arms length from civilisation? Or are people so fucking shallow now that climbing the worlds tallest mountain is nothing without being able to tweet about it to other vacuous morons from the top?

Re:What the hell for? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205087)

People are so shallow now that climbing the world's tallest mountain is nothing without being able to tweet about it to other vacuous morons from the top.

Prediction: Score:2, Informative.

Re:What the hell for? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 months ago | (#44205259)

Isn't part of the point of visiting a remote location such as this the fact that you're at arms length from civilisation? Or are people so fucking shallow now that climbing the worlds tallest mountain is nothing without being able to tweet about it to other vacuous morons from the top?

haha, everest for retreating from society ?!?! hahaha hahahaha ahahah, you're talking about a place where most everyone has personal hired help, even if they don't have that at home and pretty much everyone goes there for bragging rights. you'd be better off mining gold in lapland for retreating from civilization! no queues there, unlike at mt everest.

shitloads of mosquitos though in lapland in summer..

Re:What the hell for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205841)

Yes.

spying (1)

beefoot (2250164) | about 10 months ago | (#44205019)

I was going to say Chinese government is trying to steal private information from people using their network. That was before the NSA's spying plan being made public. Now I would just say please feel free to steal my personal private information.

Is it safe to use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205479)

What is traceroute for this service?
Is the stream stored by NSA before being broadcast to the destination?

Re:Is it safe to use? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 months ago | (#44205877)

What is traceroute for this service?
Is the stream stored by NSA before being broadcast to the destination?

If it routes through USA probably greatly depends on your location.

Really... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44205571)

How about we work on a way to create suits or set systems in place so people don't die up there. Prevent the loss of life, how about that. Now we can watch expeditions fail in real time HD streams.

Or....China can use the money and help the poor, feed the hungry, cure the sick. Yea, stick a balloon over a mountain that is in a contested area of which horrible crimes have been committed against. Yea, enjoy twitter Nepal. Sorry for all the S**** things weve done and were doing. Isnt youtube neat?

This sickens me, sorry.

Re:Really... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206907)

How about the people who pay $10K/person to "climb" Everest with the Sherpa's do something to help the poor? How about people dont climb it in the first place instead of spending knowledge capital building "better suits"? It will be tough for China to feed the poor considering how many there are.

Is the CPC that desperate to tap people? (1)

sethstorm (512897) | about 10 months ago | (#44206165)


"Huawei, in collaboration with China Mobile, has successfully deployed 4G services on Mount Everest, about 5,200 meters above sea level. Announcing the development, Huawei revealed that work was completed last month and users can now access 4G services like streaming live HD videos from the base camp on the mountain."

Given that Huawei is more or less an arm of the Chinese government, those services might as well be a glorified CPC tap - with the same restrictions as those placed within the PRC.

(oh, and before someone talks about a certain US TLA, your own people don't die or disappear when it acts - unlike China which does it if you look the wrong way at the wrong person)

Pizza delivery? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44206353)

And Uber. This era rocks!

Tibetan Base Camp (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#44207059)

Does everyone miss the point that this would be the Chinese base camp and not the one in Nepal?

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