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Robotech DVDs Released!

CmdrTaco posted more than 13 years ago | from the god-does-that-bring-me-back dept.

Anime 131

shane writes "Robotech has been released on dvd finally. Check robotech.com for more info." I used to get up super early on Sunday mornings to watch Robotech every week when I was still a rugrat (being very quiet so as not to wake the parents). But personally I'm waiting for the animeigo release of the Macross Box Set instead (you can pre order it, as well as the Urusei Yatsura boxes) And I still really need to get Star Blazers.

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Re:DVD quality? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#137041)

Longtime lurker, first time poster... Anyways... The DVDs were authored from a set of broadcast tapes, so don't expect the super-sharp pictures you normally associate with anime... However, for tapes that are almost 20 years old, they look really good. The openings and closings are really sharp. The episodes themselves, while soft around the edges, still look pretty good. There is some noticable bleeding in the first episode, when you're looking at Macross island (the sea and the sky sort of run together.) Also, there was apparentally a bit of dirt on the film when they made the broadcast masters, as you see this quite clearly during the episodes. I know that Macek said he didn't do any special cleaning of the footage like AnimEigo is doing for their release of Macross, but still I sort of wish they had cleaned the footage a little. Even with those problems, this is probably about the best copy of Robotech I've seen - especially since I spent my younger years taping it off the air, from a TV with an antenna, at EP speeds, onto a bargin basement VHS tape I bought from KMart. For me, at least, it's a purely nostalgic purchase.

Re:"To be in love....." (1)

farrellj (563) | more than 13 years ago | (#137043)

JUST DON'T LET HER SING!!!!!

ttyl
Farrell

Ehh Sonny? Give me Tranzor Z anyday! (1)

On Lawn (1073) | more than 13 years ago | (#137044)

That was a show

TRANZOR- ZEEEEEEE!

definately the ancestor to Voltron, Robotech, and many many more. Anyone remember the pink girl robot's name?


~^~~^~^^~~^

I want all three generations (3)

heroine (1220) | more than 13 years ago | (#137045)

This looks like it's about to become a repeat of the VHS releases which came out in the 80's. They released the first few episodes and gave up. Unfortunately not many people are going to want just the first 12 episodes this time either. Without much demand for the first 12 episodes they won't see a need to finish the series.

The second 2 generations were in some ways better than Macross. They got rid of the bimbo and the warrior women had a much bigger role. My favorite scene is still Rick Hunter telling Lynn Bimbo to go stick it, but the bravery of Dana Sterling and Lisa Hayes was irreplacable. You could never write a female character as self sacrificing for the fate of the universe as Lisa Hayes into a show today.

Rook Bartley seemed more aligned with the modern heroine, more concerned with seeking revenge for some wrong done to her by a man than saving the world, but brave nonetheless.

Re:look at the price!!! (1)

Thomas Charron (1485) | more than 13 years ago | (#137046)

The US series was different then the japanese version. Thats what the special note is for.. 8-)

Re:Star Blazers (1)

Thomas Charron (1485) | more than 13 years ago | (#137047)

The very same..

Re:look at the price!!! (2)

Thomas Charron (1485) | more than 13 years ago | (#137048)

That's only for the original japaneese release of the *ENTIRE* series (Like 36 episodes?). That is *NOT* Robotech: Macross.

The ones released today are at http://www.robotech.com/news/viewarticle.php?id=27

DVD quality? (1)

Chris Parrinello (1505) | more than 13 years ago | (#137049)

Can anybody who owns the DVDs comment on the video/audio quality? The version that Cartoon Network was running was pretty bad. Was any attempt made to clean up Robotech for the DVD version or maybe at least track down some quality masters?

Re:look at the price!!! (2)

Sabalon (1684) | more than 13 years ago | (#137050)

No...he was correct. The $50 is for the 3DVD English box set. The $350 is for the 9 DVD Japanese box set, which is seperate - read the second link!

If you want Camp (was: Re:I got mine!) (1)

Kevbo (3514) | more than 13 years ago | (#137052)

Wait until you get the 2nd generation with Dana Stirling in it. I downloaded a couple of those from Gnutella the other day and that one is truly campy. I think they all get better, though. Macross gets much better around ep 18 where Fokker dies. Poor Roy.

Re:Just one question... (1)

Shrubbman (3807) | more than 13 years ago | (#137053)

My monies on early next year before EVERY episode gets online from DVD rips.

Low-grade Realvideo caps off the vhs releases and TV broadcasts have been floating around for ages if you do some digging. Yes, DVD rips will probably supplant these over time, but you have to remember that it'll be awhile before the entire series is fully released on DVD. At 2 individual DVDs and three disc box-sets with bonus material coming every month or so (I remember reading that somewhere on robotech.com a few weeks back) they're aiming at having the entire series released by early next year. What's out there now on DVD is the first 12 episodes, there's 85 in total.

Re:Anime? (2)

carlfish (7229) | more than 13 years ago | (#137054)

Conclusive studies have been done proving that there is a link between anime consumption and deviant sexual behavior

In late breaking news, conclusive studies reveal an even more concrete link between trolling slashdot, and having no sexual behaviour at all.

Charles Miller


--

CmdrTaco, Anime, Slashdot (5)

bhendrickson (7671) | more than 13 years ago | (#137055)

For all those puzzled by Slashdot's new fascination with anime, for all those curious why CmdrTaco has posted less than 50 articles here since April 15th while an editor like Timothy has posted over 230, let me explain.

http://www.animefu.com/

Top users at animefu:
CmdrTaco (194)
Cacophanus (80)
Battousai (73)
Kayos (64)
kurt (52)

That would be 194 reviews written my CmdrTaco - reviews I might point out that are far longer than the quick Slashdot summaries he writes.

Our fearless Slashdot leader, the only person in the position to address the increasing cynicism, to deal with the degeneration of dicussion, and to tweak the increasingly counterproductive moderation system, has reduced Slashdot to his second priority.

Slashdot is still an amazing place... but here is to the old days of Slashdot, and perhaps to some future Slashdot innovations.

(And please, no jokes about CmdrTaco hedging himself in case he is the victim of VA Linux reductions)

Ben

star blazers episodes online (2)

mr_burns (13129) | more than 13 years ago | (#137056)

studionext.com...quicktime format

Why Impulse Buy? (3)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 13 years ago | (#137057)

You can find them a lot cheaper than $40 at buy.com.
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Re:Macross Plus (1)

JDLazarus (15077) | more than 13 years ago | (#137058)

Macross, not Macross Plus.

Macross != Robotech: Macross Saga (5)

DiningPhilosopher (17036) | more than 13 years ago | (#137059)


Here's an explanation I found on Home Theater Forum:

"...Animeigo is NOT doing Robotech, they are doing the original Japanese seres that Robotech used for its animation. Robotech is edited from the original and has a different script and storyline, and the Animeigo release will not have an English dub, just as Robotech doesn't have an Japanese track.

If you want Robotech, the ADV version is the only one."

Decent price! (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 13 years ago | (#137060)

After seeing single episode VHS tapes of things like Moldiver go for C$35 a piece, US$14.98 for a DVD with 6 episodes is a friggin bargain!

Definately Lisa (1)

FatSean (18753) | more than 13 years ago | (#137061)

Even when I was a kid I thought Minmei was an annoying little girl. Lisa Hayes had that hot older woman thing going on.

I beat /. to something (1)

Yogger (24866) | more than 13 years ago | (#137063)

I happened to be in the mall last night (rare habbit for me) and wander into the DVD store. Browsed around a little, not really looking for anything in particular. About to give up and lo and behold, there it was sitting on the new release rack. With a small shout of joy, I quickly beat down some little kids pawwing at it and ran to the register with my new found prize. And some people say I need a life...

Robotech? Bah! (2)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 13 years ago | (#137064)

You young whippersnappers...Robotech was nothing compared to "Battle of the Planets" (also known as Gatchaman or G-Force). I remember watching it on a black and white TV in the back room of my dad's gas station after school, way back in the late '70s (later got to see it in color, too). Now THAT was an awesome series. Nothing I've seen since then has gotten me like G-Force did. Voltron, Robotech, all those TV series that came after paled in comparison IMO. Zoltar/Berg Katse was a pretty cool villain...or was it villainess? ;-)

I've heard you can get G-Force on DVD now...hmm, gotta see if I can get it...but then again, if I watch it now, it'll probably ruin it (kinda like watching Star Trek OS today). *sigh*

Ah well. There's an old site about G-Force/BotP with lots of pics here: http://www.pearl-jam.com/botp/home.html [pearl-jam.com]

Transmute!

Ethelred

Hehe, geeks as kids... (1)

Racher (34432) | more than 13 years ago | (#137065)

Most kids I knew used to get up early to watch Dennis the Menace or whatnot.

I remember I would get up at 5:30 to watch shuttle launches. I was about 7 or 8 at the time, my dad would come down to get ready for work and see me there at 6:00 glued to the TV.

T minus 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.... and we have liftoff!

Time for a big bowl of Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs.

...and I'm not sure we should trust this Kyle Sagan either.

A love story... (5)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 13 years ago | (#137066)

Oh Rick!
Oh Minmei!
Oh Rick!
Oh Minmei!!
Oh Rick!!
Oh Minmei!
Oh RICK!!!
Oh MINMEI!!!
---

I can't wait... (1)

zor_prime (42665) | more than 13 years ago | (#137070)

...This is something I have been waiting for for a long time. I just hope they hurry up and release the rest soon. I can't wait to watch my namesake on DVD.
The abbreviated Laws of Thermodynamics:
1)You can't win.
2)You can't break even.

Star Blazers (1)

swestcott (44407) | more than 13 years ago | (#137071)

is that the one with the wave motion gun and they fly around in what looks like an old sub?

Re:Poor Animeigo (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 13 years ago | (#137072)

They'll be releasing their Macross boxed set in a few weeks here.

Macross is, of course, one of the 3 shows ground up into the hamburger that is Robotech.

Star Blazers (1)

baturkey (55015) | more than 13 years ago | (#137073)

Yeah! My company does the webpage for Star Blazers.

Jeff Liu (jliu@studionext.com)

20 minute wait (1)

Orkin (61749) | more than 13 years ago | (#137074)

4:40 pm: read Slashdot
4:42 pm: read about availability on www.robotech.com
4:50 pm: Call Best Buy to reserve a copy
5:00 pm: retrieve my reserved copy from the ignorant fool at Best Buy who didn't know what Robotech was.

I am so very glad that I didn't have to mail order this one. I do, however, wish that Best Buy wasn't 10 MINUTES away! I could've been halfway through the first episode in the time it took me to get homw... We have got to figure out a better way of doing this for the 3 and 4. I don't know if I can handle this sort of anticipation while I'm behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.

Next time, I'll have to use my Cyclone...

What a day (1)

malachai (62092) | more than 13 years ago | (#137075)

News about this and of the Episode I DVD in the same day? Ugh its gonna be a long wait till I get out of work

look at the price!!! (1)

motardo (74082) | more than 13 years ago | (#137076)

it's $250 if you PRE-ORDER and $360 if you don't pre-order. CRIKEY!

-motardo

Looking for Nausicaš and Laputa video (1)

Drestin (82768) | more than 13 years ago | (#137077)

I have looked everywhere and perhaps I just don't know where to look properly or it's just this hard to find these videos. I would be ever greatful and indebted to anyone who can point me to where I can obtain copies of these two movies:

Nausicaä of the Valley of Wind
and
Laputa: Castle in the Sky

(see: http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/films/)

In NTSC format required. VHS or LD is fine. Bootleg DVD is fine. MPEG is fine. Subbed or in original Japanese is fine.

Can ANYONE point me to where I can buy these, price is of little concern.

Thanks in advance,
db
(e-mail me at drestinblack@hotmail.com)

Re:Looking for Nausicaš and Laputa video (1)

Drestin (82768) | more than 13 years ago | (#137078)

I appreciate the reply. I've already seen both in Japanese off LD years ago but have lost contact with the fellow who presented them. Our host spoke Japanese and explained it to us.

I think these two are the very best I've seen.

Just looking for a source for even the Japanese LD versions.

Re:Looking for Nausicaš and Laputa video (1)

Drestin (82768) | more than 13 years ago | (#137079)

THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I have ordered the VHS versions of both. I'll save my money on LD copies (which I'd prefer) for the later to be released DVD versions if Disney ever gets off it's ass and releases them. Thanks again! db

Re:Robotech DVD vs Macross DVD (1)

mr. roboto (85479) | more than 13 years ago | (#137080)

Also, the entire Robotech Saga will run you close to $100 after tax.

I just got it for $40, with shipping, at amazon. Are you talking Canadian dollars?

Actually, as I was writing this, I think I just realized what you mean. The entire Robotech saga includes the southern cross and mospaeda series; so far, only the macross series has been released, at a cost of ~$40 for the box set.

I think I'll post this anyway, in an attempt to clarify for others what so clearly was unclear for me.

Re:A little slow... (2)

Tiroth (95112) | more than 13 years ago | (#137084)

Love Hina is great. If you like Tenchi or love comedies in general you'll probably enjoy Love Hina. It has good art and a nice, lighthearted story line. Stay away from Ep 25 and the spring special though...they aren't representative of the series.

Re:A little slow... (1)

notsoanonymouscoward (102492) | more than 13 years ago | (#137085)

/me slaps Tiroth with a wet fish

How dare you say such things about love hina!!

jk :)

I've liked everything I've seen so far (everything but the elusive ep 26). other than having a sense of finality (which if you think about it, makes sense for a series that is ending) I didn't think that the specials or ep 25 were any different.

Stronger than Strong (1)

Rand Race (110288) | more than 13 years ago | (#137087)

To hell with Robotech and Starblazers, where are the damned Gigantor DVDs!?!?

I never rushed home from school because Starblazers gave me a 30 minute grace period before Gigantor came on. Last time I saw one was at Dragoncon some 10 years ago. I want my GIGANTOR!

Re:Nice, but not my thing (1)

WMNelis (112548) | more than 13 years ago | (#137088)

How about "Looney Tunes", and "Tom & Jerry" (the ones before they were friends)?

Re:A little slow... (1)

Seeth42 (138589) | more than 13 years ago | (#137091)

Trigun. You need to watch Trigun. It starts out as a cheezy/silly sci-fi spaghetti western, but each disc (there are 8) gets progressively more intense. You'll laugh, you'll cry (maybe). It's well worth watching.

Cowboy Bebop is also an EXCELLENT choice (you can't really go wrong here, but the first disc and a half move a little on the slow side).

Anyone else have some recommendations?

I got mine! (2)

Seeth42 (138589) | more than 13 years ago | (#137092)

For some reason, I don't remember the Robotech cartoon being so campy/cheezy. It's probably a combination of 1) my age at the time of first viewing and 2) I have more vivid memories of the book series. Still, as far as children's television programming goes, they just don't make 'em like this anymore.

Also, it may just be me, but this series seems REALLY violent for a "suitable for all ages" series. After watching the first disc, I was amazed that my parents actually let me and my younger brother watch this when we were kids! (bless them for not overprotecting us from quality programming!)

Anyway, I'll be anxiously waiting the release of discs 3 and 4 in early August! (I've already got them pre-ordered!)

Re:Anime? (2)

Seeth42 (138589) | more than 13 years ago | (#137093)

"...stuff related to their fantasies about young japanese women. "

I don't think so....my fantasies all involve large robots....


"Before Judging someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!"

Re:Star Blazers (1)

DocOC (146332) | more than 13 years ago | (#137094)

Finally, people who know about Star Blazers' existence! Whenever I try to tell people about it, they look at me as if I have gone into a psychotic fugue. Where can I find this website your company does?

Re:DVD quality? (1)

j2brown (149380) | more than 13 years ago | (#137095)

Video quality is OK, but not spectacular. No attempt was made to clean it up, one assumes in an effort to keep thet price down. Still very watchable. Audio is fine, but in the original mono. Check out the forums on http://www.robotech.com [robotech.com] for more. Membership required to read.

Star Blazers (2)

John_Booty (149925) | more than 13 years ago | (#137096)

"And I still really need to get Star Blazers"

Some things are more important than karma. So here goes...

Star Blazers 0WNZ J000 B|TC|-|Z!!!!!11!!1!!!!!

... uh.yeah [bootyproject.org] .

http://www.bootyproject.org [bootyproject.org]

Dorkier than thou (1)

spezz (150943) | more than 13 years ago | (#137097)

Jeez, when I read the headline I thought "Oh my god, they released Robotech: Crystal Dreams for the N64, those lunatics".

Re:Save us from this abomination!! (1)

Cryptnotic (154382) | more than 13 years ago | (#137098)

Carl Macek deserves the electric hair.

I have to agree with you on that one. Macek deserves the electric hair. :-P

Cryptnotic

Re:Robotech? Bah! (1)

Cryptnotic (154382) | more than 13 years ago | (#137099)

There are region 2 DVD's of the Japanese version, "Kagaku Ninja Tai Gatchaman" available from some Japanese stores like www.cdjapan.co.jp. They are non-subtitled, Japanese language only. However, they are awesome. I definately recommend picking up the first couple of them if you are longing for a nostalgia kick. The first DVD is especially good. Aparrantly after that, the series gets kind of boring and repetitive for a few dozen episodes until there are a couple of episodes about Owashi no Ken (Eagle Ken, the guy in white, I don't know his name in BotP/G-Force).

Cryptnotic

Re:Looking for Nausicaš and Laputa video (1)

Cryptnotic (154382) | more than 13 years ago | (#137100)

CDJapan [cdjapan.co.jp] has them. They are both available in an inexpensive form on VHS tape. You might also be able to find the VHS versions at your local Japanese bookstore if you live in a large city (Kinokuniya perhaps).

If you want to order the LD's, you can get them from CDJapan. However, they will cost over $100 each, plus shipping.

These are both scheduled to be rereleased in Japan on DVD (Region 2). All of the Region 2 DVD Studio Ghlibli movies that have come out so far (Grave of the Fireflies, Tonari no Yamada-kun, Kiki's Delivery Service) have had English subtitles as an option. So waiting for the R2 DVD release might be a good idea (also it will be cheaper than buying the LD's).

Cryptnotic

Just one question... (1)

AceMarkE (154966) | more than 13 years ago | (#137101)

With the DVD's out, any bets on long it'll take before DivX rips of the episodes will be floating all over IRC and other file-swapping services?

Re:Just one question... (1)

AceMarkE (154966) | more than 13 years ago | (#137102)

Yeah, obviously it'll take time for all the episodes to be released. But still, for the current twelve, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some fans somewhere who have already bought the boxed set and are busily ripping the eps as we speak. I don't particularly have a point to this, I'm just making a random observation.

Re:2 Questions (3)

Echo|Fox (156022) | more than 13 years ago | (#137103)

1. Nobody has licensed Macross: DYRL as of yet, and what with Whoremony Gold being the bastards they are, I wouldn't expect it for a long, long time. 2. That's Valkyrie, Veritech is a Robotech term. And no, it's looking increasingly unlikely that the YAMATO/Toycom MacPlus Valk's (or the upcoming DYRL Valkyries) will ever see a North American release. Blame Harmony Gold. If you really want them, import them. Get 'em at Hobbylink Japan [hlj.com] . You pay Yen price + shipping.

Re:A little slow... (2)

Psmylie (169236) | more than 13 years ago | (#137105)

Escaflowne is great (one of the best I've ever seen), and if you like mecha, this might be a good shot for you (mecha and magic, yay!) Continuing on the giant robot theme is Neon Genesis Evangelion, which rocked until the last couple of episodes (but I hear they are making more!)
Serial Experiment Lain is also pretty good. I haven't seen Cowbow Bebop yet, since I'm not MADE of money and nowhere here rents it, but everyone I've talked to who has seen it has liked it. Good luck!

Re:Star Blazers (2)

Psmylie (169236) | more than 13 years ago | (#137106)

Star Blazers was THE thing when I was in 2nd grade. You gotta love a big gun that requires ten minutes of buildup before it can fire!
Of course, the slightest mention of the show gets the American theme song stuck in my head. Off to Napster I go!
(to the idiots: no, I don't use napster anymore and yes, I am aware of the alternatives)

Berserk (1)

jaga~ (175770) | more than 13 years ago | (#137107)

I'm still waiting and praying that the Berserk series will be released on DVD, although I don't think a US version was ever officially released even =(

Re:look at the price!!! (4)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 13 years ago | (#137109)

Not quite Right.

As seen here:

http://www.robotech.com/news/viewarticle.php?id=27 [robotech.com]

The DVD's can be picked up at most major video stores around the US. They can also be bought online at many major shopping sites, at a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $14.98 or less for the individual DVD's, and $44.95 or less for the box sets.

Looks like you spotted the prices for different set:

Super Dimension Fortress: Macross - Complete Box Set This special Macross DVD box set includes the 36-episode Macross series in its original Japanese form, uncut and with remastered footage. In addition, fans who sign up for the preorder list now will enjoy a hefty discount of $110 off the retail price! IMPORTANT NOTE: This is the Japanese Macross series, not the Macross Saga of Robotech.

Don't Panic Yet!

Check out the Vinny the Vampire [eplugz.com] comic strip

Funny I bought the first 12 episodes... (1)

DA_MAN_DA_MYTH (182037) | more than 13 years ago | (#137110)

... at Best Buy last week...

This is the version from ADV films right?

The worst vice is advice...

Save us from this abomination!! (3)

Cacophanus (183187) | more than 13 years ago | (#137114)

Carl Macek deserves the electric hair. Admittedly the likes of Robotech made anime accessible to the Western general public (so did ULysses 31 for that matter and that was also done by the studio behind Macross - Studio Nue).

The real problem with Robotech is that it merged three completely unrelated anime series:

Macross
Southern Cross
Mospeada

...consequently butchering the intricate narrative of each of the series.

I mean Protoculture as an *energy* source! The subtlety of Kawamori's original vision is completely knackered.

Ollie

Re:Star Blazers (1)

haplo21112 (184264) | more than 13 years ago | (#137115)

Well since you didn't leave a real address I guess I have to beg in forum...I'd love to get the comics if you ever want to part with them, give me a price.

LGH (1)

Mittermeyer (195358) | more than 13 years ago | (#137116)

Check out Legend of the Galactic Heroes when you get through with playing with J-pop stars as strategic weapons. http://logh.net

Re:look at the price!!! (3)

pcidevel (207951) | more than 13 years ago | (#137117)

Yeah, I saw a boxed Macross DVD set for sale in this Sunday's Best Buy add in the local newspaper. I don't know all the specific episodes as I'm not a total anime freak, but I've thought about picking it up just for the Saturday morning nostalgia effect. :)

I think the price as advertised at Best Buy was only $34.95 for the 3 DVD box set.


Okay.. just to be a little helpfull.. it's very important that you realize that Macross and Robotech are COMPLETELY different series.. Robotech is what you saw as a child on TV, the first 12 episodes are in the box set that came out yesterday for 40 bucks (2 dvd's of episodes and 1 dvd of extra features). Macross is the Japanese version of Robotech (the original version) but has a widly different plot after the first season.. it eventually dwindles down to singing at the bad guys until they die.. ;) The entire macros box set is like 360 bucks when it comes out.. but it's every season.. the whole shebang..

Now, the Robotech that is 40 bucks is only 12 episodes of 85 total produced episodes.. so expect another 6 or 12 to be released at a time for the next year or two until the entire 85 episode series is out.. and of course sitting in my house! :).. I had the first box set of 12 episodes preordered since the day they started accepting preorders and I'm happy to say I got a notice of shipment yesterday, so I should be getting them soon!! :) WOOT! :)

Umm... am I stupid or something? (1)

Mynn (209621) | more than 13 years ago | (#137118)

I just saw this at the mall for like $100 bucks or something....

Re:Star Blazers (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#137119)

Go to www.starblazers.com [starblazers.com] (the official homepage, according to the DVD boxes) and there's a link from there to watch episodes online. I tried it, but their connection is REALLY slow for some reason (atleast when using Windows Media).

Based on his e-mail addy, it appears his company either a) owns starblazers.com and runs it, or b) runs the 'watch on the internet' site (and that was what he was referring to), or c) both. =)

Re:A love story... (3)

wmulvihillDxR (212915) | more than 13 years ago | (#137120)

You need to add Lisa in at the end of that. Since she wins in the end.

for you anime junkies (3)

wmulvihillDxR (212915) | more than 13 years ago | (#137121)

Chekc out http://anime.plan9.de here [plan9.de] for a bunch of anime. Including parts of the the Robotech series.

Re:Recommendations (2)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 13 years ago | (#137122)

Oh, Macross Plus is another anime with a decent dub. In fact, I think it's dub sounds better than the Japanese track!

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Re:A little slow... (5)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 13 years ago | (#137124)

I wouldn't cout Akira, Ghost in the Shell, or Ninja Scroll as 'popular' anime.

Popular anime: Ranma one half, Rouroni Kenshin, Evangelion are popular anime.

So you've fallen for the classic trap of anime is just a 'friggin cartoon'. It's basic storytelling (no different than TV, movie, CG, or any other live acting) but expressed in paints and cels.

So if you want good anime, you need to know what you like. Do you want drama and adventure? Soul searching?

Here are a smattering of good anime:
Evangelion: Story of a boy pilot and 100 feet tall robots. The crux of the story is the humanity and fraility of the boy and his peers.

Why to watch Evangelion: Very strong portrayals of human emotion without actually jerking you around on a rollercoaster.

Escaflowne: The story of a girl transported to an alternative world with 40 feet tall robots. She's mystical and can see the future. The story is really about fate, conviction, and strength of will.

Why to watch Escaflowne: Exciting and touching

Mononoke Hime: Evidently you didn't like this one. The story of Iron Town, the Great Forest, and immortality. A prince is cursed by a dying Boar God/Demon and travels to the Great Forest and Iron Town to try to lift the curse. Focus is on the conflict between human nature, human expansion, and the health of the world we live in and depend on.

Why to watch Mononoke: Very mystic, spiritual, and exciting.

Macross Plus: Story of a fighter pilot Isamu Dyson who gets to fly a state of the art airplane as part of a military design competition. Things get complicated when a complex AI system starts taking over everything. This story is mainly about the complex love triangle between the two X-plane pilots and their best friend/singer.

Why to watch Macross Plus: It's a love story and the story about best friends.

Trigun: A western sci-fi set on a desert planet. Vash is a wandering gunman with a bounty on his head. You follow his adventures as you figure out who this mysterious gunman is and why someone hates him so much. In the end it's a morality tale about the value of life and living.

Why to watch Trigun: It's funny, it's exciting, it's emotional. Very cool.

Jubei-Chan: A great samurai dies leaving the legacy of a legendary eyepatch bestowed with is soul and spirit. Jiyo Nanohana is his spiritual reincarnation when she wears this eyepatch. The story is about her struggles against who she is, what she is, what she's capable of, and why she's doing it, especially when her friends and loved ones cannot escape her destiny.

Why to watch Jubei-Chan: It's cute, it's funny, it's sad. Did I mention it's funny?

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Nice, but not my thing (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#137126)

I'd love the following on DVD:

Original Johnny Quest (not the crappy ones added later)

Ren & Stimpy

Flintstones (again, older ones)

All the Don Felder music from Galaxy High (forget the cartoons) on CD

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Re:Star Blazers (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#137127)

I still have a few of these comics. I've got two big boxes of comics (groo, eagle, critters, usagi yojimbo, etc) and keep thinking about whether to ditch them or keep them for when I have kids. Weirdest, by far, is these Space Battleship Yamato things.

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Re:DVD quality? Don't got them, but (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#137128)

IIRC they weren't all that sharp when I first saw them on TV when they orig came on.

Problem with some cartoon animation was they'd farm it out to some really bad animation houses, because 6-10 year sugar junkies aren't supposed to care about quality. Absence seems to improve the quality of images until you fork over the bucks and get a look. I certainly hope they're better than the washed out color we had over cable.

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Geek kids + Sugar (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#137129)

If I seem in a fog, when I look back at these old cartoons, it may be because I have severe sugar deficiency. IIRC, I used to eat 4-5 bowls of Capn Crunch, Fruit Loops, Frosted Flakes (eat fast, they get soggy at lightspeed!) or something else which is 60% sugar, 39% filler, 1% artificial quantities of vitamins. One bowl of that crap now and I'm on the moon.

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Tex Avery! (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 13 years ago | (#137130)

Not to overlook Tex Avery, the grandaddy of them all!

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Re:Decent price! (1)

knightf0x (218696) | more than 13 years ago | (#137132)

Check out http://www.kencranes.com [kencranes.com] They got Robotech DVDs for $11.24 per DVD

2 Questions (2)

knightf0x (218696) | more than 13 years ago | (#137133)

1. Will there ever be a release of the real Marcoss movie DYRL (Do You Remember love)? 2. Will Harmony Gold ever let Toycom bring in Veritech fighters to store shelves?

Re:Definately Lisa (1)

Exedore (223159) | more than 13 years ago | (#137137)

If we're getting into a whole "Lisa or Minmei" type dispute here, let me throw in my two cents... Neither. Give me the short little red haired girl stationed on the bridge instead.

IMHO the very best Minmei moment is from "Do You Remember Love" where Rick bitchslaps her. I could wear out the rewind button living vicariously through Rick at that moment.

Re:Star Blazers (1)

rppp01 (236599) | more than 13 years ago | (#137138)

what's worse then that, is I always remembered watching the show, but never knew the name! So the looks I got were probably far worse than yours! Whooohoooo!

Obligitatory anime rant (1)

KagakuNinja (236659) | more than 13 years ago | (#137139)

Still, as far as children's television programming goes...

Macross was produced for Japanese teenagers, gundam it! It ain't "kids stuff".

I'll stop now before I go into an anti Carl Macek / Robotech rant...

Re:Star Blazers (1)

KagakuNinja (236659) | more than 13 years ago | (#137140)

Battleship, not sub. In the original Japanese, they refurbished the Yamato, which was sunk during WW2.

But they did have subs in one episode; "space submarines" that could hide below the surface of... space I guess.

Recommendations (1)

KagakuNinja (236659) | more than 13 years ago | (#137141)

OK, step one: avoid anything dubbed by Streamline. In fact, avoid most dubs (Mononoke is one of the few decent one's I've seen).

You've already dissed two favorites of mine (Akira and Ninja Scrolls), so I'm not sure what I can suggest. I'm several years out of date as well.

Some old favorites: Macross Movie, Demon City Shinjuku, Vampire Hunter D, Tenchi Muyo, Ranma 1/2, Urusei Yatsura, Cobra, Votoms, Gundam, Gundam Z, Giant Robo, Etranger... That's all I'm coming up with at the moment.

Re:Star Blazers (1)

simpl3x (238301) | more than 13 years ago | (#137142)

oh, to be in your thirties. my little step brother liked the transformer stuff...

Let me think about this... (3)

Jhon (241832) | more than 13 years ago | (#137143)

I almost sunk $40+ in to the DVD boxed set.

I stopped myself and asked "Why?" Because I saw this when I was in high-school? Because it was "cool"?

I've got this series on VHS, for gODSAKE. I've already dropped well over $100 in to it -- and that was 1980's dollars. Do I really want to spend this much form something that will in all likelyhood be played once then sit on my shelf?

Hell yes! -- no wonder my wife controls the checkbook...

-jhon

Re:A little slow... (2)

Bonker (243350) | more than 13 years ago | (#137144)

I really don't know jack about Anime(I mostly ingore it), and it seems that I pretty much hate all the popular Anime films I've seen(Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, Princess Moanoke), I really have no basis for comparison to give anyone who doesn't know about Robotech(those people do exist) an informed opinion as to quality of this series versus other movies/TV progs, because I think most are pretty weak.

Could anyone recommend some Anime Titles? I was thinking of renting the Gundam titles and Cowboy Bebop, but outside of those none of the titles at my local store caught my eye.


You do have a *very* narrow cross-section for comparison. I consider myself a (pathetic) otaku and the only title I *don't* agree with you here on is Princess Mononoke.

While it doesn't shoot any fireworks off for me, you *should* try Cowboy Bebop. It's a pretty well done series. If you like it, you might consider Trigun, which is similiar in tone, if more comedic.

Also try :
  • Sorcerer Hunters
  • Slayers
  • Fushigi Yuugi
  • Photon
  • Urusei Yatsura
  • InuYahsha (Not available in the US yet.)
  • Love Hina (Available from Bandai REELSOONNOW!)
  • Evangelion

Re:look at the price!!! (1)

Lawbeefaroni (246892) | more than 13 years ago | (#137145)

I'm going to break off some caveat on myself here. Exactly what does this mean: "IMPORTANT NOTE: This is the Japanese Macross series, not the Macross Saga of Robotech. ... Special Preorder Price: $250 (Expected retail price of $360)" What is the difference in the first "important note?" And don't they set the SRP?

"To be in love....." (1)

Mall0 (252058) | more than 13 years ago | (#137146)

"To be in love....with minmei!"

region 1 :( (1)

thanjee (263266) | more than 13 years ago | (#137147)

OTHER INFORMATION:
- Region 1 (for DVD players in the US and Canada)

Once again every other region misses out :(

When will we get Robotech DVDs in Australia? I need them!

Re:look at the price!!! (2)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 13 years ago | (#137148)

Yeah, I saw a boxed Macross DVD set for sale in this Sunday's Best Buy add in the local newspaper. I don't know all the specific episodes as I'm not a total anime freak, but I've thought about picking it up just for the Saturday morning nostalgia effect. :)

I think the price as advertised at Best Buy was only $34.95 for the 3 DVD box set.

So now I know what I'm doing tonight. (1)

banuaba (308937) | more than 13 years ago | (#137149)

One thing I hope they have set up in the chapters of the DVD: Minmei. I want to just be able to hit next chapter whenever she sings, talks or pretty much exists.
Brant

A little slow... (1)

Win-Developer (316016) | more than 13 years ago | (#137153)

The DVDs actually came out yesterday 6/19/01. I picked up the box set for $32. Good stuff. I too watched it as a kid, and I was really waiting for this. I just wish these things weren't so expensive. It's a friggin cartoon! Same with Star Blazers...I can't justify $25-$30 for 1 DVD for a few episodes of Cartoons. At least I'm getting 12 episodes of Robotech and a Bonus Disc in the box set.

I really don't know jack about Anime(I mostly ingore it), and it seems that I pretty much hate all the popular Anime films I've seen(Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, Princess Moanoke), I really have no basis for comparison to give anyone who doesn't know about Robotech(those people do exist) an informed opinion as to quality of this series versus other movies/TV progs, because I think most are pretty weak.

Could anyone recommend some Anime Titles? I was thinking of renting the Gundam titles and Cowboy Bebop, but outside of those none of the titles at my local store caught my eye.

Re:A little slow... (1)

Aerog (324274) | more than 13 years ago | (#137154)

With all honesty, I can recommend the few following series, many of which are available either (read: finally) to buy or as fansubs, which aren't really hard to come by:

Love Hina - Sure, it's got the whole "not really action oriented" thing going, but it's funny, and a really good show

Gatekeepers - It's another of the "team of superheroes save the world" but this one is quite good

Kenshin - Well, obviously

Perfect Blue - One of the best non-banned head trips money can buy

Escaflowne - Even though it's already been said, this one rules (but not the Fox butchering that is around)


Hope that helps a bit

Re:Nice, but not my thing (1)

WoefullyFat (324813) | more than 13 years ago | (#137155)

Hey, thanks for making my day. I've been stuck at werk for hours, I'm going to miss my karaoke date because I'm getting shafted by Seimens tech support, and I'm depressed for other reasons, and then you said the two magical words that brought a huge smile to my face: "Galaxy High." I'm not being sarcastic. Like, Woe

Poor Animeigo (1)

bartle (447377) | more than 13 years ago | (#137158)

Yes, Animeigo has a history of giving the fans what they want. They capitulated and started producing LDs, just in time for the DVD revolution to take place. Last I heard they were still trying to sell off all their excess AMG LDs. Perhaps they'll be able to produce their DVDs in a timely fashion and sell all of them before something better comes along.

Re:Looking for Nausicaš and Laputa video (1)

bartle (447377) | more than 13 years ago | (#137159)

In NTSC format required. VHS or LD is fine. Bootleg DVD is fine. MPEG is fine. Subbed or in original Japanese is fine.

Neither is domestically available, but I'm sure you already know that. There are places online where you can buy the Japanese originals, but unless you speak Japanese I'd recommend against watching it that way. I saw Mononoke Hime the first time in raw Japanese and missed out on a bunch of the plot, I would've been better off just waiting the year for the Disney release. Speaking of which, Disney has been promising Laputa for a while now; Nausicaa will be a much longer wait I suspect.

Anyway, you're best bet is to hit IRC and try to get them in mpg format if you have broadband. The quality won't be very good, but neither are most of the bootleg tapes out there. But those movies are well worth the time and energy it takes to retrieve them, they're both exceptional animated fare.

Re:A little slow... (2)

Johnny5000 (451029) | more than 13 years ago | (#137160)

My favorite anime is Maison Ikkoku. It's about this guy living in a house who has a crush on his apartment manager, and all of the guy's neighbors are wacky. I guess its not really for the action fans, but it's really funny.

Irresponsible Captain Tylor is entertaining too. It's about this slacker who somehow gets put in charge of some starship and he bumbles his way through numerous misadventures. Hillarity ensues!

I used to go to the anime club meetings when I was at school, and I saw a bunch of shows that I dont remember the names of. One where a kid got in fights all the time (that's about all i remember, but it was entertaining) and a bunch about giant robots. I was never that big of a fan of the giant robot anime genre, though there was one I liked a lot, and cant remember the name of that one either. I'm not much help!

-J5K

Re:Definately Lisa (1)

Vermy (456774) | more than 13 years ago | (#137161)

Agreed. Minus the horrible English accents, that was a fun flick.

The bitch slap was good. I always replay the part where the gravity fails in hopes that this time he might not catch her before she hits pay dirt :)

Re:Funny I bought the first 12 episodes... (1)

Vermy (456774) | more than 13 years ago | (#137162)

Yes. You bought the first 12 episodes, the first 6 tapes, the first 2 DVD's. It's a 36 episode, 18 tape, 6 DVD series.

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Robotech DVD vs Macross DVD (5)

Vermy (456774) | more than 13 years ago | (#137164)

Actually there are a few misconceptions about the release: -There are two box sets currently available for order. The Robotech: The Macross Saga (DVD 1 and 2 + bonus DVD) and the Complete Macross Saga Collection. The Robotech series is the one that most children grew up watching here in the states, while the Macross Saga is the series that originally aired in Japan. Robotech is actually an adaptation of the Japanese version Macross, and the stories are slightly different (I won't ruin it with spoilers, BUT VERY DIFFERENT ENDING!) -The Robotech DVD's (put out by ADV) are completely UNREMASTERED (no remaster of video or audio). So all the original bad audio and film scratches are there. They are just flat copies from the original tape put together by Macek and Harmony Gold. These are English Dubbed with a few silly song clips in other languages (see here [advfilms.com] ). - The Macross DVD's (put out by Animeigo) are completely REMASTERED (both video and audio). They are quite beautiful in the rework (see here [animeigo.com] ). BIG DIFFERENCE. However, they will be released only in Japanese with English Subtitles. - Also, the entire Robotech Saga will run you close to $100 after tax. The entire Macross Saga will run you $250 if you preorder it. Yes, I'm a fan. The only man somewhat proud to have a Lisa Hayes 12" doll to keep him warm at night.

Can't wait (1)

GreyOrange (458961) | more than 13 years ago | (#137167)

A friend of mine let me see Super Dimension Fortress Macross II and ever since I've been wanting to get more of the series. Thanks for posting about it.

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Re:A little slow... (1)

Hagabard (461385) | more than 13 years ago | (#137168)

I just wish these things weren't so expensive. It's a friggin cartoon!

I hear ya'. While Taco can cash in 40 shares of LNUX (after capital gains) to get the disks we have to go and work a full half-hour for the equivalent cash!

It's a crime, I tell ya'

BTW: I got my 3-disk set on Monday morning from Buy.com for $32 w/ shipping.

Everyone loves Robotech (1)

kilgor (461669) | more than 13 years ago | (#137169)

I used to watch Robotech and Transformers, so I couldn't believe it when Tranformers completely ripped off the Skull One [robotech.com] with Jetfire/Skyfire [fortunecity.com] .

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Re:Save us from this abomination!! (1)

amuro98 (461673) | more than 13 years ago | (#137170)

Love it or hate it, Robotech was responsible for getting many people interested in anime, as Star Blazers had done before, and Akira later. I know I wouldn't have gotten into anime as early had I not seen Robotech. I wouldn't have been inspired to learn Japanese (and later, major in it) so I could watch other stuff. I wouldn't have gone to Japan to further my studies. I wouldn't have come up with that wacky idea to put the college anime club into the biggest auditorium on campus. The first time we tried that, we overflowed the auditorium... And I certainly wouldn't have been offered half the jobs I've held (co-op and otherwise) where I have used my anime-inspired Japanese skills.

Re:Umm... am I stupid or something? (1)

amuro98 (461673) | more than 13 years ago | (#137171)

You aren't, but the store in the mall leaves a bit to be desired...

I bought the first boxset online for $25 or so. They were selling the individual discs for $8.50. I suspect I'll see the discs locally for around $10-11.
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