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Lead Developer of Yum Killed In Hit-and-run

Soulskill posted 1 year,20 days | from the rest-in-peace dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Seth Vidal, a lead developer of Yum, was killed in a hit-and-run accident while riding his bicycle in Durham, NC last night." The Fedora Project posted a statement. Quoting: "Seth was a lead developer of yum and the update repository system, and a contributor to the CentOS project as well as the original Fedora Extras system. He worked tirelessly on the infrastructure for the Fedora Project to make all systems work well and consistently for our contributors around the world. He was a gifted speaker, a brilliant thinker, a clever wit, a humble and genuinely funny person, and a good friend. The Fedora community owes an enormous debt of gratitude to Seth's dedication to Fedora and other free software projects, his commitment to community values, and his passion for excellence in his work. To say he will be missed is an understatement." Update: 07/10 00:24 GMT by U L : Local news reports that the driver turned himself in.

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413 comments

When you ride at night, (5, Informative)

Spy Handler (822350) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231263)

wear white.

Re:When you ride at night, (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231301)

blame the victim. i guess you think women in short skirts are asking to be raped?

Re:When you ride at night, (5, Informative)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231341)

blame the victim. i guess you think women in short skirts are asking to be raped?

He's not "blaming the victim," he's pointing out a safety tip for those of you who don't understand the basic physics of how our eyes work, you Fuck.

Re:When you ride at night, (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231375)

No amount of high-vis can protect you from stupid drivers. Given that the driver did not stop, I think we can assume that they place no value on the lives of others.

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231411)

Or they panicked, which is a thing that happens.

I would venture to guess they probably do value human life, just not as much as their freedom, which is not 0.

Re:When you ride at night, (2, Insightful)

wisnoskij (1206448) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231625)

And no amount of driving skill can protect you from invisible stupid bicyclers.

"I think we can assume that they place no value on the lives of others."
Or they did not want to go to jail for 20 years for a no-fault accident.

Re:When you ride at night, (4, Insightful)

barc0001 (173002) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231683)

The driver fleeing the scene is a pretty clear indication of whose fault the driver presumed the accident to be. Hint: not the cyclist's.

Re:When you ride at night, (4, Interesting)

dan828 (753380) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231779)

Or he was drunk. Or high. Or had a suspended license. Or a warrant. Or was an "undocumented worker". Or any number of things that would lead the guy to flee the scene, even if he wasn't the at fault party. I mean, my experience tells me that the driver likely was at fault, but we really don't know, and there can be a ton a reasons why someone would take off.

Re:When you ride at night, (4, Informative)

QuadEddie (459328) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231817)

He was a black guy with a suspended licence.

Re:When you ride at night, (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44232003)

So it was you? YOU BASTARD!!

Re:When you ride at night, (3, Insightful)

Duhavid (677874) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231969)

"And no amount of driving skill can protect you from invisible stupid bicyclers."

Try riding a bike for about a year, seriously. You will start to think "what will protect me from blind, stupid car drivers".

"Or they did not want to go to jail for 20 years for a no-fault accident"

Mind made up already? From what I have read, it sounds like the car driver was at fault.
He was hit from behind, and the driver slowed, and swerved
And then drove off. Could be either at fault. With the hit from behind part, it is hard to seriously argue is was the cyclist at fault.

Re:When you ride at night, (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231641)

Or they didn't even notice they hit him. They slightest love tap from the side mirror of a 4000lbs vehicle can send a 250lbs bicycle and rider flipping, with the car driver none the wiser. Bikes can not safely coexist with 40+mph cars. If there are no pedestrians on the sidewalk, use it. Bike cops do.

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231913)

" i guess you think women in short skirts are asking to be raped?"

I say it depends. If she wears it within a cosmopolitan Western city, then no. But she shouldn't try that when traveling through some deeply conservative country where tradition dictates that a woman should cover herself up from head to toe.

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

Hokan (11666) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231955)

blame the victim. i guess you think women in short skirts are asking to be raped?

He's not "blaming the victim," he's pointing out a safety tip for those of you who don't understand the basic physics of how our eyes work, you Fuck.

So "don't wear short skirts" is a good safety tip after news of a rape?

Re:When you ride at night, (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231361)

I think it was a word of warning to other cyclists to always do what you can to be seen, not blaming the victim.
Modern feminists have you tricked into thinking you are either fully in control of a situation or you are fully a victim of a situation.
Fortunately, life isn't black and white

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231385)

blame the victim. i guess you think women in short skirts are asking to be raped?

This is not the same thing, asshat. The OP was making a statement about safe practices. For all we know, he was wearing white, which won't stop you from dying if you get hit.

Re:When you ride at night, (2)

VAXcat (674775) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231493)

He's not blaming the victim, he's quoting a Roling Stones song lyric. Jeez....woooshhhh

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231597)

Yes, because bicycling down the middle of a street in complete black and with zero lights or reflectors is not asking to be run over.
This accident very well might of ruined the other guy's life as well, and might of been totally not his fault, for all we know.

Re:When you ride at night, (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231611)

The phrase is "might have" or "might've", tardo.

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231931)

Not sure what he was wearing or the lighting conditions in the area he was hit.
But if you wear black clothes while riding at night in an area with no streetlights and you get hit by a car ...
While it might not legally be your fault ... You are still an idiot and contributed to your death.
With rape. A rapist is always wrong. But if I were a woman I would not go to strange places with strange men and leave my drink unattended.
If you are a parent and you are not teaching children these things then ... They are not the criminals but they have seriously increased the chances of bad things happening.

Re:When you ride at night, (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231397)

White doesn't cut it at night.
Wear reflective.

Re:When you ride at night, (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231545)

yeah but reflective doesn't rhyme with night.

Re:When you ride at night, (4, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231725)

When you ride at night, wear lights. Unless you're going to the airport.

Re:When you ride at night, (4, Insightful)

characterZer0 (138196) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231407)

White does not always help. If you ride at night, use bright headlights and taillaights. I commute by bicycle and have lights on regardless of time of day. Too many drivers just do not pay sufficient attention.

In many places hit and run carries a lighter penalty than DUI, so often drivers have an incentive to flee. Hit and run should be a felony.

Re:When you ride at night, (2)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231475)

In many places hit and run carries a lighter penalty than DUI

... The fuck????

Where? I want to know which communities/states to add to my "Avoid Like the Bubonic Plague" list.

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231619)

Having once been a victim of this, although I'm usually against the death penalty in virtually all cases, I would personally be more than willing to consider arguments to make an exception for people who do the hit and run thing. Irrational I know, but your perspective changes a lot as you slide across the hood of a car going 60 miles an hour in a residential area (he chased and hit me).

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

characterZer0 (138196) | 1 year,20 days | (#44232037)

New York State.

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

roninmagus (721889) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231563)

I have never been to nor heard of such a community. The article seem to imply that this is a felony, as in this case I would think murder is the proper charge. "Anyone with information about the hit-and-run should call Crime Stoppers at 919-683-1200. Crime Stoppers pays cash rewards for information leading to arrests in felony cases and callers never have to identify themselves."

Re:When you ride at night, (3, Interesting)

pspahn (1175617) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231781)

I received Revolights [revolights.com] for Christmas last year.

Of course, they won't prevent me from getting hit, but they sure do help. Cars, pedestrians, other cyclists... they all stop when I go by simply because they are looking at my lights because they look pretty fucking cool.

Re:When you ride at night, (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231997)

No kidding. When you're riding day or night visibility is your you friend. The most dangerous person is the spaced out driver driving home on the same daily commute he's been doing for the last decade. You need to make yourself stick out or he'll plow in to you like you're not even there.

Right now I'm at work and I'm charging my serfas thunderbolts. Even in broad daylight they're shockingly visible.
https://www.serfas.com/products/view/669/referer:products|index|lights|tail-lights

That and a 700 lumen front light for when it's dark (Sometimes set it to flash on daytime commutes, particularly overcast days) You'd have to be near blind to miss me.
http://www.cygolite.com/products/expilion700.html

Yeah, the routine is weird when I get home. Pop off 4 devices (Bike gps/computer is USB charged too) and USB charge them all.

additional advice: (0)

circletimessquare (444983) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231593)

if you are walking or riding along the side of a road, choose to walk/ ride on the side that makes you face traffic

in some places this is actually against the law. i still advise the practice

because i would rather see the car/ truck that is about to kill me, and probably be able to leap at the last moment. you have no such opportunity at self-preservation when you walk/ ride with vehicular traffic coming at you from behind

some might say you are making life harder for other cyclists/ walkers obeying the law and walking/ riding with their backs to traffic. to which i say: i am sorry you are an idiot, who prioritizes the risk of a fine over the potential to save your life. you should start riding/ walking against traffic too

Re:When you ride at night, (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231793)

wear white.

Wrong. Passive reflected light is nowhere near good enough.

Use LIGHTS. Multiple ones. BRIGHT ones. BRIGHT FLASHING ONES.

If you have those, you don''t need much else, although reflective pedals and tire sidewalls do help drivers identify a bicyclist.

Re:When you ride at night, (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44232053)

wear white.

Wrong. Passive reflected light is nowhere near good enough.

Use LIGHTS. Multiple ones. BRIGHT ones. BRIGHT FLASHING ONES.

If you have those, you don''t need much else, although reflective pedals and tire sidewalls do help drivers identify a bicyclist.

mod parent up

Re:When you ride at night, (3, Informative)

DavidJSimpson (899508) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231879)

From the article, the accident happened at 9pm. So it probably wasn't dark.

Hmmm (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231297)

APT developers should be hauled in as main suspects. Anyone connected with the Debian project is suspicious.

Re:Hmmm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231437)

APT developers should be hauled in as main suspects. Anyone connected with the Debian project is suspicious.

Were you born that much of a douche, or did you have to work at it?

Re:Hmmm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231445)

Were you born that much of a clueless idiot, or did you have to work at it?

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231467)

Exactly how does calling someone a douche for making a joke about someone's death make that person clueless?

Re:Hmmm (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231471)

Fuck you, you loathsome, miserable excuse for a human being.

I can't believe even a poster on this site would try to make a joke in a comment on this kind of story.

You should be ashamed of yourself, and I wish I had a way to show everyone you know what you did here.

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231509)

Sure, lardy. I'm quaking in my boots at your Internet tough guy act. Unfortunately for you, the forklift that you use to get yourself out of mommy's and daddy's basement is broken. Need me to mail you a few more cases of Cheetos while you wait for it to be repaired?

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231699)

I can't believe even a poster on this site would try to make a joke in a comment on this kind of story.

Greetings, and welcome to Slashdot.

This sucks (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231305)

Tremendously. RIP, Seth. You will be missed.

Very short history of yum (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231309)

here [duke.edu] .

Probably a prank gone wrong. (0)

Antony T Curtis (89990) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231311)

I have seen drivers of vehicles in the USA perform an act which looks like a deliberate "nudge" to a random cyclist before driving away at high speed.

If I had an always-on dash-mounted video camera, I would be tempted to post videos of people doing such nonsense.

So sad.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (4, Insightful)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231365)

I have seen drivers of vehicles in the USA perform an act which looks like a deliberate "nudge" to a random cyclist before driving away at high speed.

If I had an always-on dash-mounted video camera, I would be tempted to post videos of people doing such nonsense.

So sad.

You should - vehicular assault is a serious offence, and if your video can be used to prove malice, those sociopathic pricks will be confined to a cell where they belong.

I've been wanting a dash cam for the opposite reason - a lot of the cyclists around here are either stupid or have a deathwish, judging by how flagrantly they violate right-of-way laws.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (1)

Duhavid (677874) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231685)

"a lot of the cyclists around here are either stupid or have a deathwish, judging by how flagrantly they violate right-of-way laws"

Stupid, I think.... But I, as a former cyclist, have been seeing more of this around me, and I hate it.
Just remember all, not all cyclists are like that, as not all car drivers are like the ones who commit vehicular assault.

Had a bicyclist blow through a red-light today (1, Insightful)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231795)

All the cars stopped. The people walking in the crosswalk were nearly drilled by some jerk on his bike. Just kept riding, then rode through the next red light.

They want full access to the roads, taking a whole lane? Fine. Then they need to meet all of the same rules we do.
- No rolling red lights.
- No cutting between cars in their lanes.
- Turn signals
- Etc.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (1)

Monkey-Man2000 (603495) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231403)

Holy shit! From the article:

Witnesses told police that the car, a late-1990s or early 2000s model, slowed quickly and swerved before hitting Vidal and continuing north on Hillandale Road.

It certainly sounds like a sad "prank" as you said. WTF? I've never heard of this but I know Americans (as I am one) hate bicyclists with a passion, but this phenomenon (if generally true like you suggest) is fucking crazy...

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (0, Troll)

CalRobert (2451626) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231503)

Yeah, Americans are assholes. I spent two years commuting by bicycle in Los Angeles and I hated, humanity and wished them all a horrible, slow death. Since leaving that country my outlook has improved immensely.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231731)

You were also living in the festering asshole of the US.
 
/L.A. native and will never live there again.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (2)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231527)

Holy shit! From the article:

Witnesses told police that the car, a late-1990s or early 2000s model, slowed quickly and swerved before hitting Vidal and continuing north on Hillandale Road.

It certainly sounds like a sad "prank" as you said. WTF?

Depends; did they swerve towards or away from the cyclist? TFA seems to have missed that not-so-minor detail.

My guess is (assuming the driver swerved away) is that the driver didn't see him until it was too late, and tried to avoid by slamming on the binders and swerving.

IMO, That part makes sense, and is perfectly reasonable; The "Oh shit I think I hit that guy so I'm GONE" reaction is where the driver went from "human who made a mistake" to "worthless piece of shit that deserves hard time in fed-max."

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (2)

Hentes (2461350) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231419)

Sadly, this behaviour is not limited to America. Some people just get crazy once inside a car.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (1)

interval1066 (668936) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231659)

They do. I was cycling not very long, and going up the wrong side of the street as I had just left where I was at and getting on to the main road, and it was more convinient to peddle on the wrong side for a block. I don't know if that was the problem, but a guy in a car started yelling at me. Fortuneatly I was on the other side of a frontage road, so the guy couldn't get at me, and I really didn't understand what he said. But people in cars tend to feel empowered, I've felt it myself in my own car. In other words, its easy to get mad for stupid reasons in a machine that can kill people.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (1)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231479)

Tempted? You'd have a moral if not legal duty to provide copies of that evidence to police.

I, for one, am eagerly anticipating the so-called sousveillance future, which Google Glass and dash-cams are merely the beginning of.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (1)

Duhavid (677874) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231599)

In my short, but ignominious career on a bicycle, I have had
    A couple drivers chase me all over the place, deliberately trying to hit me
    Several incidences where cars tried to nudge me around ( one I caught and explained things to ( no, really, rationally and all that ), response was "oh, I see" ), including one where the car ( a taxi, in this case ) actually hit the rear wheel of my bike with his fender. I am super lucky I didn't fall ( with the additional push from the car ) into a parked car. I called the taxi company about it, they hung up on me.
    Many "I didn't see you" moments, including it broad daylight ( which is why I don't buy the "wear white" thing, some of them *just* *don't* *look* ).
    I remember riding at night ( with lights and all ), and having a couple in a van pull up next to me and tell me that I shouldn't ride at night, because the driver of the van was legally blind..... No, really.
And that is just what I can remember from 30 years gone.

Re:Probably a prank gone wrong. (4, Informative)

0100010001010011 (652467) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231749)

Which is why you carry one of those emergency hammers designed to shatter tempered glass. It gets their attention. And when asked how I hit them with the hammer I asked how they were within arms reach when the law states there is a minimum 3' passing distance.

Thank you (4, Insightful)

ssam (2723487) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231323)

Thank you for all your hard work. You will be missed.

A true linux nerd to the core (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231333)

His only mistake: going outside

Re:A true linux nerd to the core (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231373)

He was biking. He probably was more of a hipster than a geek.

Re:A true linux nerd to the core (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231873)

Only if it was a fixie bike.

aptitude update (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231357)

Did yum have any features which made it preferable to apt(itude)? I've never understood why anyone who wants a Linux binary package management system doesn't choose Debian's.

And, yes, I know we can get all bawwish about the guy's death and pretend that it's a personal loss, but frankly it isn't. So, instead, I'd like to take the time to learn about yum. I haven't used RH since about 5.0.

Re:aptitude update (1)

Pozican (864054) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231657)

Just because YOU never spoke to him personally doesn't mean the rest of us haven't.

Re: aptitude update (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231855)

Yeah no kidding. Some of us even work with him.

And past that, the fact that seth's contributions to open source and our culture and community will not continue should be enough to make you baww.

This is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231363)

This is why we need separate bicycle paths and lanes separated from other traffic by barriers. Bicycling is better for the environment and better for public health, but I'll be damned if I'll ride my bike where I live or work (Maryland, USA) because drivers here treat bicycle riders horribly.

Re:This is why... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231381)

because drivers here treat bicycle riders horribly.

Probably because you fuckheads ignore traffic laws for example by riding through red lights and stop signs.

Re:This is why... (5, Insightful)

scot4875 (542869) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231443)

If someone on a bike runs a red light or stop sign and they get hit, that's their bad and that's on them; they'll get no sympathy from me.

If you treat someone on a bike like shit because you saw a random biker run a red light or a stop sign once (or twice, or 1000 times, it doesn't matter), that makes you a dick, and that's on you.

--Jeremy

Re:This is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231579)

If you treat someone on a bike like shit because you saw a random biker run a red light or a stop sign once (or twice, or 1000 times, it doesn't matter), that makes you a dick, and that's on you.

Bikers do the very thing in reverse that you claim I would be a dick for doing. My irony meter has asploded.

Re:This is why... (2)

Antibozo (410516) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231947)

If someone on a bike runs a red light or stop sign and they get hit, that's their bad and that's on them; they'll get no sympathy from me.

Go hang out at a stop sign one day and count the percentage of cars you see actually stop. Pot, kettle, black.

http://washcycle.typepad.com/home/2008/07/the-myth-of-the.html [typepad.com]

Re:This is why... (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44232049)

From your link:

And stop signs

The overall compliance rate for stop signs was 22.8 per 100 vehicles, ranging from 1.4 per 100 for bicycles to 46.2 per 100 for commuter vans. Compliance increased to 53 per 100 vehicles when pedestrians were present in the crosswalk. [WC: Okay, we're both guilty here, but the cars aren't even stopping half the time. More on this below.]

So bikers complied with stop signs at a rate nearly 1/20th of the average of all vehicles. And you were trying to disprove them about bikers consistently riding through stop signs?

Re:This is why... (2)

lightBearer (2692183) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231689)

I've been practicing ways to make my fellow cyclists pay more attention to their dick behaviour.

My most recent attempt is to yell "confirmation bias" whenever I see one of us doing something like ignoring a stop sign or blowing a light. The idea is that, when they come back (and normally get aggressive thinking I was cussing them out) I explain that every dick move they make makes all of us look bad.

That leads me to you drivers: you see those of us who cut you off and blow the light. You see the ones who split the lane and haul ass to the light so they can be first out the gate when it changes. You don't see most of us who are being cautious because, in our caution, we're staying the fuck out of your way. Trust me: we exist.

I hope this driver is found and has to answer for what they did. I hope more of us cyclists start caring about how being killed in traffic affects us all.

Re:This is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231777)

+1 insightful. A number of my biker friends are the same way. It's extremely hard to change the attitudes of car drivers when you act in the stereotypical dick way that enrages people against us.

Re:This is why... (-1, Flamebait)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231565)

This is why we need separate bicycle paths and lanes separated from other traffic by barriers

Yea, OK, so if you and your cyclists buddies want to get together and raise the money to pay for dedicated bike paths, I'll support using public land to build them.

However, if you're like many of the d-bags around these parts who want their private bike streets paid for with my road and fuel taxes... You can go piss up a rope.

Re:This is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231805)

who want their private bike streets paid for with my road and fuel taxes

To be fair, it might offset what you're paying in healthcare costs for out-of-shape potential cyclists and pollution from car exhaust. And increase area property values.

Re:This is why... (5, Insightful)

Antibozo (410516) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231893)

Yea, OK, so if you and your cyclists buddies want to get together and raise the money to pay for dedicated bike paths, I'll support using public land to build them.

However, if you're like many of the d-bags around these parts who want their private bike streets paid for with my road and fuel taxes... You can go piss up a rope.

You know that most cyclists have cars, and drive, too, so they're paying fuel taxes right alongside you, right? But when they're riding their bikes, they're using up a lot less space on the roads, reducing congestion and leaving more room for you to get around. Compared with cars, bikes contribute virtually no wear on roads, and areas paved for bike traffic cost a fraction of what regular rated roads cost, because of the dramatically reduced load requirements. When cyclists get where they're going, they will lock up to a bike rack that fits 20 vehicles in the area of a parking space, leaving more parking for you to put your car in. They're also reducing gasoline demand, which might slightly lower the price you pay at the pump. As a driver, you stand to gain in numerous ways from others' cycling.

And fuel taxes don't cover the cost of the roads, anyway, mainly because they've been essentially stagnant while the cost of fuel increased fivefold. Drivers' use of the roads is heavily subsidized now by general taxation, so you don't get to point at cyclists and say they're the freeloaders.

http://dc.streetsblog.org/2013/01/23/drivers-cover-just-51-percent-of-u-s-road-spending/ [streetsblog.org]
http://www.uspirg.org/reports/usp/do-roads-pay-themselves [uspirg.org]

There have been so many... (3, Insightful)

Irick (1842362) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231379)

It's sobering just how many of these great contributors to oss and technology in general have passed away these past few years. Mortality is not something I often contemplate at twenty two but I find it constantly popping up in the legacy of this subculture.

I really do wonder if we are predisposed to see death as a problem that needs to be solved, because all I can think of are the tragic losses of minds and icons that could be prevented somehow and how valuable that would be to humanity as a whole.

Seth will be missed and hopefully his work will live on.

Re:There have been so many... (5, Funny)

sideslash (1865434) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231427)

It's worse than you realize. In fact, 100% of people who work on Open Source Software die.

Re:There have been so many... (1)

loufoque (1400831) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231455)

People die all the time in all sectors.

Hit and Run driver turned himself in. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231429)

They caught the guy who did this.

http://www.wral.com/man-charged-in-durham-hit-and-run-that-killed-bicyclist/12644209/

Re:Hit and Run driver turned himself in. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231549)

Predictably, it was a lowlife piece of shit. There are thousands
of this type in Durham.

They make Durham a terrible place to live, whether it is because
they drive badly or because they mug, rob, rape, or kill. And believe me,
they do ALL of the preceding crimes with regularity.

I've lived in Durham, but I would never live there again. It's just not worth it
because the scum who live there affect too many aspects of daily life.

Re:Hit and Run driver turned himself in. (1, Insightful)

dclozier (1002772) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231623)

Thanks for the update. Not that I think they should go lightly on him but he should be given some consideration for owning up to his mistake. Regardless of his punishment it wont bring Seth back.

Re:Hit and Run driver turned himself in. (4, Insightful)

barc0001 (173002) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231713)

Dude was driving with a revoked license. He needs to go to jail since obviously just taking his license away doesn't seem to be all that effective in curbing his poor judgement.

Re:Hit and Run driver turned himself in. (2)

Antony T Curtis (89990) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231745)

So... The guy was knowingly driving with a revoked license. They should throw the library at him.

Re:Hit and Run driver turned himself in. (3, Informative)

damicatz (711271) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231985)

He already has a DWI.

http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/calendars.Offense.do?submit=submit&case=3102012061874&court=CR [state.nc.us]

DWI laws in this state are a joke. And when they finally get banned from driving a car (after half a dozen convictions or so), they are still allowed to go and drive a moped on the road.

North Carolina drivers are the worst in the US. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231431)

While it is sad this guy died, his death could have been prevented by not
riding a bicycle on a road which was shared by cars and trucks.

The risk in North Carolina is simply too high. I have ridden thousands
of miles when I lived in other states in the US, but the severe lack of
competence on the part of North Carolina drivers means that my road
bike will gather dust until I leave North Carolina.

You can preach all you want about how a motorist was in the wrong, and
you will very probably be correct in North Carolina in the case of a bicycle
being hit by a motorized vehicle. But being in the right doesn't bring back
the dead. And that IS the bottom line, for those of us who choose risks
carefully.

Re:North Carolina drivers are the worst in the US. (1)

VAXcat (674775) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231533)

Clearly you've never driven in Boston...I had a summer job there driving a patient transport van for the Boston State Hospital (a mental asylum), and I always felt like the lunatics I was driving around in the van weren't a patch on the maniacs driving the other cars.

Be on the lookout for a car full of niggers. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231477)

Evidently witnesses say that the driver of the car and passengers were "black". In North Carolina, "black" is a euphanism for niggers. This was not an accident either. Witnesses claim the nig-nogs hollered "Dat is fo' Trayvon, mutha fucka" before throwing an empty malt liquor bottle at Seth's crumpled body.

Thank you, and goodbye (1)

LatitudesAttitudes (1979100) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231483)

It saddens me to hear this. I use Scientific Linux and love yum. Thank you for your hard work, but you are in a better place now. You will be missed.

Re:Thank you, and goodbye (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231827)

whoo boy, here we go...

Hit and runs are NEVER "accidents". (5, Insightful)

CalRobert (2451626) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231487)

If you hit somebody and leave them to spend their last gasping breath in a gutter, it is not an "accident". It is manslaughter, or if a prank as described above, cold-hearted murder. I hate, hate, hate the US' auto-centric point of view. Tens of thousands of people per year are killed because of it. It needs to end. I hope I can get permanent residency outside of that cesspool.

Re:Hit and runs are NEVER "accidents". (3, Insightful)

wisnoskij (1206448) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231691)

That is false, it is entirely possible to accidentally perform a hit and run.

Re:Hit and runs are NEVER "accidents". (2)

Chryana (708485) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231849)

Well, if you hit a cyclist and don't even notice it, which is why you "ran", maybe you should not be driving, accident or not.

Re:Hit and runs are NEVER "accidents". (1)

del_diablo (1747634) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231857)

"and run."
Note the last part, you hit a car, then run.

Re:Hit and runs are NEVER "accidents". (0)

wisnoskij (1206448) | 1 year,20 days | (#44232009)

And it is entirely possible to run by accident.

:-( I (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231557)

Now I know who the Seth was that my programming friends were discussing on FB.

a candle (1)

Kamien (1561193) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231675)

a candle in the wind [']

meanwhile congress tries to cut bike path funds (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231729)

the human race has a very small chance of surviving its own stupidity.

Re:meanwhile congress tries to cut bike path funds (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231875)

Save the planet: nuke the humans.

Not the first time (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,20 days | (#44231837)

Not that it's a coincidence, but Rob Levin (a founder of the Freenode IRC network and the Peer Directed Projects Center) was also killed due to a hit and run accident [slashdot.org] while riding his bicycle in 2006.

Re:Not the first time (1)

XanC (644172) | 1 year,20 days | (#44231971)

It's not a coincidence? Just what are you proposing to be the link between the two incidents?

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