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Samsung Ups Ante In Smartphone Size Wars: 6.3 Inches

timothy posted about a year ago | from the don't-mean-to-brag-but dept.

Cellphones 221

New submitter jarold writes to note that Samsung has launched two extra-large cellphones: a 6.3 inch LTE ready version, and a 5.8 inch version. "Branded as Galaxy Mega, one would struggle to fit [either in a] pocket or use it with just one hand. The good thing, it is only 8mm thin and weighs under 200 grams. More portable than a tablet, it comes with a durable polycarbonate body. Unlike most of Samsung's latest smartphones, it does not have a super AMOLED panel. Instead, it has an HD super clear LCD display, which is bright enough to please most users. It features split screen and multitasking between video and other apps." For a phone that big, users might need to brush up on their side-talking skills.

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Ridiculous (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282401)

Stop calling these phones. They are wide-screen monitors.

Re:Ridiculous (5, Funny)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about a year ago | (#44282545)

THE BRAND NEW iPad Mini Mega
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abtmeXXT7VA [youtube.com] :D

Re:Ridiculous (2)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44282845)

there's a burger called minimega in a finnish burger chain..

Re:Ridiculous (2)

thsths (31372) | about a year ago | (#44282559)

If the kindle fits in my pocket, why shouldn't this?

Maybe it works both as a tablet and a phone. I can certainly see a market for this.

Re:Ridiculous (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282825)

Not everybody wears the XXXL Buster Big Boy Cargo Pants your mom buys you, bro.

A 6.5" by 3.5" "phone" is not going to fit in the average person's pocket. This means it will be used by:

-- women who always have a decent sized purse with them;
-- men who don't mind wearing a fanny pack everywhere they go;

Re: Ridiculous (2)

Jeff Flanagan (2981883) | about a year ago | (#44282899)

My nexus 7 fit in my pants pocket, and this seems smaller, so that shouldn't be a problem except for tiny males with miniature pants.

Re: Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282999)

I'm 6'3" and about 170. Sure as hell doesn't fit in the pockets of anything I wear.

Re: Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283113)

Put it in the pocket of your suit jacket; it should fit fine.

"Oh, but I only wear skinny jeans and ironic T-shirts!"

Well, there's your problem; you are a man, but wear the clothing of a boy.

Re: Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283181)

I'm a chemist and work in a lab. I don't wear suits.

Re:Ridiculous (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282881)

Not my pockets. Sorry dude, we're not all fatasses.

Re:Ridiculous (3, Interesting)

obarthelemy (160321) | about a year ago | (#44282599)

Well... my 6.1" screen is to a 4" screen what a 23" is to a 15" on the desktop. Would you go back to a 15" on your desk ?

Re:Ridiculous (5, Insightful)

neokushan (932374) | about a year ago | (#44282757)

I wouldn't go that far. It's more like the difference between a 24" and a 21" monitor. Both are still "big" compared to what the majority of people use (Which is probably about 19" these days, perhaps 17") but there's a shift towards them. Your point is still valid, however, once you go bigger it's hard to go back.

That being said, you don't cart that 23" screen around with you. I have a 24" monitor on my desktop, but I still go back to a 15" laptop because 17" is too big to carry around.

Re:Ridiculous (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282799)

however, once you go bigger it's hard to go back.

That's what she said

Re:Ridiculous (1)

fnj (64210) | about a year ago | (#44283291)

Pssst. 15" is too big to lug around too. 13" is the appropriate size.

Bad analogies (0)

sjbe (173966) | about a year ago | (#44282779)

Well... my 6.1" screen is to a 4" screen what a 23" is to a 15" on the desktop. Would you go back to a 15" on your desk ?

Haven't figured out a way to get a 23" screen in my pocket yet.

Seriously, were you trying to come up with the least relevant analogy possible?

Re:Bad analogies (5, Insightful)

poetmatt (793785) | about a year ago | (#44282871)

wha? His analogy was exactly correct, even the ratios are almost exact. 15/23 vs 4/6.3. By math alone, he basically made your analogy comment incorrect.

I'm not suggesting a 6.1" screen - I think it's too big to hold, but I will say that the 4.7" HTC one (larger than my previous HTC rezound/SGS/droid/razr) is visually a lot better than the 4" and smaller preceding phones, as referenced. However, even 4.7 is hard enough to use with one hand, which is a staple of most mobile devices - 6.1" would make that a guarantee in that it would be impossible to do so.

Once you have a larger size phone, it's really, really hard to go back. The difference in UI real estate and functionality is substantial.

Your nonsequitur, however, is not accurate. Nobody is implying you're putting a 23" monitor in your pocket, dumbass.

Re:Bad analogies (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year ago | (#44283303)

wha? His analogy was exactly correct, even the ratios are almost exact. 15/23 vs 4/6.3. By math alone, he basically made your analogy comment incorrect.

GP wasn't criticizing the poster's math, but the fact that his analogy completely ignores the different use cases between desktop monitors and cell phones/portable electronics. A 15" monitor is a large step backward from 23", yes, but a 6 and a half inch phone is a step backward in portability.

Re:Ridiculous (2)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about a year ago | (#44283013)

You're probably looking for a +1 Funny mod, but I don't have to carry around a 23" display to use it on my desktop. I don't have to hold a 23" display to the side of my head when I'm using it.

Re:Ridiculous (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year ago | (#44283057)

If I had to carry around the 23" monitor everywhere I went? I'd go back to 15" without hestitation.

Re:Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283171)

I have a dual monitor setup at my desk: 21" and a 24" monitor, side by side.

Yet when I leave my desk and go mobile, I happily go back to the 14.1" screen built into my laptop.

Where is your god now?

Re:Ridiculous (1)

citizenr (871508) | about a year ago | (#44282823)

actually they are called Phablets in China, and are the next big market after everyone and their dog started making tablets.

Re:Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283023)

Similar to what my friend had said 3-4 years ago regarding his larger-sized cell phone: It is not a phone with a built-in camera function. It is a camera with a built-in phone function.

Re:Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283065)

I'm old enough to remember when it was progress when the phones got smaller.

Ah, Samsung (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282403)

I heard you're idea's and their definately good.

Re:Ah, Samsung (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282505)

Ah, come on, did no one see xkcd today?

Re:Ah, Samsung (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282529)

Ah, come on, did no one see xkcd today?

I guess no one is going to free themselves from insecurity today.

Re:Ah, Samsung (0, Flamebait)

Therad (2493316) | about a year ago | (#44282537)

Xkcd is for NERDS, here we are either fans of Android, Windows or Apple. Slashdot, news for fanbois, Stuff that rages.

Re:Ah, Samsung (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282591)

Well, the important thing is you've found a way to be superior to everyone else here.

Isn't that nice?

Re:Ah, Samsung (1)

semi-extrinsic (1997002) | about a year ago | (#44282919)

reply to undo incorrect mod. Damn you, /., for not having an undo button.

Dead Zone? (5, Insightful)

erikwestlund (1003368) | about a year ago | (#44282409)

I know that for a while people thought 4" screens were overkill, too big for people's hands, etc. I'm using a 5" Galaxy now and, while it took some getting used to, it's manageable with one hand (and I don't have large hands).

However, 6.3" just seems like a deadzone. Too big to hold in a hand and use effectively, unless you're Shaq, but smaller than a 7 or 8" tablet like the Nexus 7 or iPad mini, which perform tablet duties pretty well.

Conventional wisdom on device size has been proved wrong time and again over the last few years, so who knows? Maybe what we're seeing is devices for every size. With rumored smart watches on the way, we may have 1-2" smart watches, followed up with 3.5-6" phones, and 7-11" tablets, after which the ultrabook/laptop market takes over. Maybe every device will excel at somethings while providing enough functionality for other basics (email, media) to keep people happy.

Interesting times.

Re:Dead Zone? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44282457)

well they have devices from 10" to 2.5" now.. samsung is just big, big big.

and since the sw is pretty much the same anyways, they just keep churning.

Re:Dead Zone? (2)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | about a year ago | (#44282461)

However, 6.3" just seems like a deadzone. Too big to hold in a hand and use effectively, unless you're Shaq, but smaller than a 7 or 8" tablet like the Nexus 7

Don't forget that the correlation between screen size & device size is not neccessarily linear. Samsung managed to increase the screen size of the S4 (over the S3) by 1/5 of an inch while (slightly) reducing the phyiscal dimensions of the phone.

The Nexus 7 has a massive bezel, these devices do not & will be smaller than the 0.7 inches you'd expect placed side-by-side with a Nexus 7.

Different shape / aspect ratio (1)

grimJester (890090) | about a year ago | (#44282535)

Whether a phone will fit in one hand is up to its width. The 5 inch Galaxy S4 is 69,8mm wide, the 6,3 inch Galaxy Mega is 88mm. The iPad Mini has an aspect ratio of 4:3 instead of 16:9 so it's 134mm wide although it's only 0,7 inches larger in screen diagonal.

Back around the time the Nokia E90 [wikipedia.org] was launched, I predicted a good smartphone would eventually be around 20x9cm with a slide-out keyboard and a large touchscreen; mainly based on the fact that I wanted something that would fit in a normal inner jacket pocket, thought the keyboard was needed and the idea of two screens (on the E90) was stupid.

I hope we'll be moving past 16:9 aspect ratio to 2:1 or something similar in the near future. The keyboard/cover on the MS Surface seems like a better idea than what I could imagine at the time. Maybe a 2014 smartphone will finally be what I wanted back in 2007.

Re:Dead Zone? (1)

obarthelemy (160321) | about a year ago | (#44282585)

Depends on your size. 6.3" is about the max size that will fit comfortably in my pockets. 7" will but it's a stretch (see what i did here ?), really, I tried, because I'd love it if I could carry around a 7" phone. Maybe when they do away with bezels...
And I can handle my 6.1" Ascend Mate mostly one-handed, to call, scroll pages, even type with the "stuck to the side" mini keyboard.

I got laughed at for my humongous HTC HD2 (4.3"), then for my Samsung Galaxy Note (5.1")... Now I'm getting more interested looks about my 6.1" Mate.

I guess people are coming around to the fact that "smartphone" is a misnomer, and "minitablet" or "minireader" would be more apt: I use my phone to read/type on it 99% on the time vs 1% for calls. I'm not counting music, it's tucked in my pocket for that.

Anyway, it's just great to have a choice. I can understand people who prefer a mini-phone too...

Re:Dead Zone? (1)

tippe (1136385) | about a year ago | (#44283049)

Maybe it's time that you start wearing track pants. They stretch, so might be able to accommodate up to an 8" "phone" in comfort. Who knows, you might be the first to start up a new fashion trend and show the world that there's a third use for track pants other than: a) exercising or b) showing everyone that you've "given up" and just don't care what you wear anymore.

While I'm at it, here are a couple of other ideas that people can use to comfortably carry a 6-7" phone around with and look trendy doing it (I really should be patenting these ideas so that I can make a lot of money, instead of blabbing about them on the Internet, but whatever):
- create a holder that has an integrated shoulder strap so that you can carry the phone around like a "man purse" (or just "purse" if you're a woman)
- Replace the strap with a gold chain, install a gold "wall clock" app then rotate the "man purse" holder 90deg towards the front so that it hangs like a necklace. Presto! Suddenly you look like a hip-hop artist.
- Create a belt (for your pants) where instead of a buckle, there's a holder for your phone. Customize the look of your belt by installing different "skins". Just some ideas for skins off the top of my head: "The Texan Cattle Rancher" (with a longhorn steer on the front), "The Santa Claus" (simple gold rectangle), "The Hulk Hogan" (WWE Champion title belt). The possibilities are endless...

Re:Dead Zone? (1)

luther349 (645380) | about a year ago | (#44282605)

i got a 4 inch phone its a good dam size. anything over 5 inches is pushing it.

Re:Dead Zone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282635)

anything over 5 inches is pushing it.

it's a lucky man that has a gf who thinks as such

There are already bigger though (4, Informative)

JenniP (824070) | about a year ago | (#44282411)

http://uk.asus.com/Tablet/Fonepad/ASUS_Fonepad/ [asus.com]

I just bought an Asus Fonepad to replace my ageing Galaxy Note (Which is still a nice phone but too small). The Fonepad is 7" (Nexus 7 sized), and is a completely functional phone, although I haven't had to take a call yet I can imagine you will look a complete idiot.

Jen

Weird that people think that way (2)

grimJester (890090) | about a year ago | (#44282557)

although I haven't had to take a call yet I can imagine you will look a complete idiot.

I called a friend who was testing some 7" tablet as a phone. I couldn't understand why he kept giggling until I met him and he told me he felt stupid talking into something that size in public. It's kinda funny how people worry less about how comfortable it is to use than what others will think.

Re:Weird that people think that way (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44282847)

yeah and then the same guys use green suspenders with red jeans..

i had a n-gage. it was good for talking into.

Re:There are already bigger though (2)

Stolpskott (2422670) | about a year ago | (#44282565)

I think the design gurus at the various phone handset manufacturers are closet Dom Jolly/Trigger Happy TV fans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27aVPqpnL7Y [youtube.com]

HELLO!! (1)

maroberts (15852) | about a year ago | (#44282603)

I'M IN A LIBRARY!!! :-)

Re: There are already bigger though (1)

PixetaledPikachu (1007305) | about a year ago | (#44282773)

Get a Sony smartwatch or something similar, and a earphone-style bluetooth headset such as jabra clipper. This is what I do with my 8 inch Galaxy Note. I take it out of the bag only when I need to reply to an IM or SMS

Re:There are already bigger though (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | about a year ago | (#44283237)

You use this style of device with a Bluetooth headset. Nobody expects you to lift this to your face. Maybe even a smart watch, too.

Samsung already do bigger... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282425)

Samsung have the Galaxy Note 8.0 3G.. Which is a phone you can hold to your head... It's not available in phone version in the UK at the moment... But I imported one from abroad and it works great.. 8 inch screen... S-Pen... Everything I need.

Before we give our judgement... (4, Insightful)

Ian Pote (2858169) | about a year ago | (#44282435)

People used to say that the Galaxy Note was too big and wouldn't be a best seller and they were blown out of the water after launch day. I'm holding out for this one.

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note (5, Insightful)

maroberts (15852) | about a year ago | (#44282551)

...and I have no problem using it as a phone. I tend to use my little finger to support it underneath when talking on it, but apart from that don't really notice any difference.

I'm still not sure why people want their phones paper thin.
Personally I'd be happy with something twice as thick as a Note if it trebled the battery life, and possibly improved wireless/GPS reception.

Re:I have a Samsung Galaxy Note (1)

cerberusss (660701) | about a year ago | (#44282733)

Personally I'd be happy with something twice as thick

That's what she said :'-(

Re:Before we give our judgement... (2)

codeButcher (223668) | about a year ago | (#44283293)

Happy Galaxy Note user here too (5.3"). I do get a lot of comments about the size, but no problems with usability.

I do like the stylus drawing ability (agreed, not everybody needs this), as well as better readability. So I will definitely give this a look come upgrade time.

That said, if they can improve the display to make it sunlight readable, that will be a big plus. Also, better battery life is always a boon (not too unhappy to have to plug in every night or second night, though, but it takes a bit of planning when going on trips).

They would do good of providing some convenient belt-carrying (or other) method for a beast this size. Cargo pants take you only this far, and some jacket pockets are already at the limit of squeezing the Note into.

Too heavy for a modern phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282437)

If I was into using big and heavy phones I'd be still using Nokia 2110. Anything that doesn't fit in a jean pocket or weights over 100g is bygones for me.

You know what they say.... (2)

Fengpost (907072) | about a year ago | (#44282443)

You must be compensating for something if you have a big phone.......

Re:You know what they say.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282539)

Yes, usually said by people to cant afford a big phone.

Re:You know what they say.... (2)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a year ago | (#44282769)

Yes, usually said by people to cant afford a big phone.

So you are saying that unlike an iPhone, which people buy for its usability, Samsung phones are sold to show-offs as status symbols?

So what is the causative process? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282553)

Does your whanger shrink when you buy a bigger phone? If so, where does the redundant flesh go? If not, then since they didn't have as big a phone as this before this phone was bought, their whanger hasn't shrunk, has it? Therefore the size cannot correlate with whangsize, can it?

Me? I don't want this phone, I have an N900 which is enough and a £10 cheap-ass tiddler phone for going out with (so if it's lost, I've not lost much).

But someone who points out that ridiculous meme has something to say about their own insecurities. Maybe your phone isn't as big as theirs and you're worried your e-peen is minimised by the comparison?

I say "I have what I have, like it or lump it, I don't care".

Re:You know what they say.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282593)

I am.

I have a natural tendancy to dress to the left and I find having a nice weighty phone in the right pocket centers my gravity nicely.

In all seriousness, if you want to worry about my cock size because I've got a large phone (Note II) feel free. I assure you I'm just as large holding a nokia 1010.

Re:You know what they say.... (1)

LongearedBat (1665481) | about a year ago | (#44282657)

Small ears.

Demo Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282451)

I want a THICK phone with more BATTERY goddamnit (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282455)

I hate this obsession with thin phones. Like holding a razorblade, just awkward. Give me phone twice as thick and heavy, with the extra volume made of battery!

Re:I want a THICK phone with more BATTERY goddamni (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about a year ago | (#44282571)

And have a phone constantly reminding the self-conscious user that it's thicker than his penis/her cup?

C'mon, that's not going to happen.

Re:I want a THICK phone with more BATTERY goddamni (2)

luther349 (645380) | about a year ago | (#44282621)

not a problem man i seen huge battery's made for most phones that you can buy with a replacement backing.my buddy has one and he said he said it goes for days without charge. you will need a rooted phone so reset some power settings so it takes full advantage of the large battery.

Re:I want a THICK phone with more BATTERY goddamni (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282629)

Have to say I agree. Give me a thicker phone with twice the battery and four times the horsepower plox.

Re:I want a THICK phone with more BATTERY goddamni (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282711)

If you're on verizon, Motorola makes two current gen phones that fit this description. Razr M and Razr HD. Both have exceptional battery live, and the HD Maxx has ridiculous battery life. Let's just hope the multi-carrier moto-X follows the same pattern.

Re:I want a THICK phone with more BATTERY goddamni (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282715)

I agree with you.
Get a ZeroLemon battery for the Galaxy S4 or S3. 4 days of battery life and it has the added bonus of handling better because it's thicker.

Reinvent the laptop (1)

AchilleTalon (540925) | about a year ago | (#44282471)

Are they trying to reinvent the laptop?

Re:Reinvent the laptop (1)

KiloByte (825081) | about a year ago | (#44282595)

No hardware keyboard. Pass.

Either you use it as a slightly smarter dumbphone, in which case extra size is inconvenient, or as an actual computer, in which case some reasonable input device is a must.

Re:Reinvent the laptop (2)

turp182 (1020263) | about a year ago | (#44282863)

At this size, doubling the thickness to add a slide-out hardware keyboard probably makes sense, it would be pretty easy to type on compared to a Blackberry. Could probably also increase battery life considerably with the extra space.

Of course I'm looking forward to the day when I can use my 15" laptop as a "clamshell" phone... I'm surprised how close we are to that being some sort of reality.

please respond here if you want it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282483)

why on earth would I want such a large piece of plastic stuck in my pocket?

Cock Size? (0)

polyp2000 (444682) | about a year ago | (#44282491)

Overcompensating much? N...

Muppets. (3, Interesting)

irn_bru (209849) | about a year ago | (#44282497)

Still happy using my Sony Xperia Mini [sonymobile.com] precisely because it's so tiny (88mm by 52mm) I'd love to replace it with something newer/more powerful but it seems nobody is making anything even near this size anymore. I don't even want a 4" screen, let alone these monsters...

Shaq will love it (3, Funny)

bazorg (911295) | about a year ago | (#44282499)

I follow Shaquille O'Neal on Twitter and his iPhone does not seem to be the right size for accurate typing :)

Samsung Gentileman`s OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282501)

it sure seems that the iphone and gewgleAndroid still run everyones personal smartphones, data and all....

I heard Samsung`s next-gen super-smartphone will be running an OS which will break the monopolists ack.

Re:Samsung Gentileman`s OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282737)

You must mean Tizen then... :)

Undue attention (1)

halexists (2587109) | about a year ago | (#44282523)

I fear that side-talking page has now received more attention than $DEITY ever intended.

Re:Undue attention (1)

Threni (635302) | about a year ago | (#44282815)

Yes. The original device which inspired side-talking was a joke, but many smartphone users barely make any callers. They're called phones but they're really no more a phone than a laptop is. The phone part is just an app -one of hundreds of thousands available for all platforms (well, except Windows phones). You want a large screen so you can look at web pages, video etc. I don't think many people are that bothered about the whole `what you look like when you hold the phone to your head for a few minutes a month` thing.

Too tiny (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282525)

Come on Samsung. Put the telephony part in your 40"+ TVs and call it a day. /s

Re:Too tiny (1)

indeterminator (1829904) | about a year ago | (#44282709)

Replying to undo an accident mod.

But seriously, a TV with built-in video conference features might be useful, as long as they don't go and invent their own standard for it. I have been playing with the thought of setting up sort of "virtual windows" between separate office spaces, to allow a different, ad-hoc mode of communication between people at different locations.

Re:Too tiny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282745)

If they did that they make sure that no Fruity device could work with it. The Patents are already applied for...

Ante has already been upped (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44282555)

The poster doesn't appear to be aware of the Sony Xperia Ultra that's been doing the rounds. It appears to be competing more with the 7" tablet part of the market than the mobile, especially as shown paired with the Bluetooth headset.
* http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z_ultra-review-944.php [gsmarena.com]

Why the obsession with thinness? (4, Funny)

jeremymiles (725644) | about a year ago | (#44282569)

I don't care how thin it is, I want a bigger battery.

Re:Why the obsession with thinness? (2)

maroberts (15852) | about a year ago | (#44282611)

Me too!

Re: Why the obsession with thinness? (1)

jader3rd (2222716) | about a year ago | (#44283117)

Why not a thin phone with a more power efficient OS?

Its not the size that matters (1)

vlad30 (44644) | about a year ago | (#44282587)

Its how you use it !

Galaxy needs a redesign (3, Insightful)

Rob_Bryerton (606093) | about a year ago | (#44282643)

I have an S3 and have seen the S4. Instead of just making the thing bigger, then bigger, I think Samsung should focus on quality and usability. It's almost like they design it w/a computer but never do a physical mock-up to see how usable the units are.

Button placement is just bad: the power button is opposite the volume rocker, so when you (awkwardly) shut it off w/the side button, the tendency is to cancel out the button press by hitting the volume rocker. Dumb. The 4 words I utter most often when using my S3: "F&^%ing P.O.S."

Too thin. Way too thin. Very awkward to hold when talking on it. Double the thickness and use it for a better battery and use some better materials (aluminum).

Cheap, plastic-y look and feel. This is again, really bad. Just looks and feels cheap, especially compared to the newer iPhones and HTC One. You're charging us a small fortune for these things; how about spending more than 2 cents on the case?

Come on Samsung, this isn't rocket science...

Re:Galaxy needs a redesign (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44282867)

very few people use their iphones without protection. iphones could just as well be plastic.. plastic isn't viewed as bad for long term use by consumers, for example you bought it still.

I just wish I could find a decent android in the shame candybar touch form factor as 5800 xpressmusic was in. a bit thicker and a smaller screen - and a toggle slider for screen on/off, which all androids seem to miss(and windows phones for that matter even from nokia).

Re:Galaxy needs a redesign (0)

dfghjk (711126) | about a year ago | (#44283289)

"very few people use their iphones without protection. iphones could just as well be plastic.. plastic isn't viewed as bad for long term use by consumers, for example you bought it still."

That's some great logic there...you bought so it must be good. I once bought lunch at McDonalds too.

People put iPhones in cases for emotional and personal reasons. The iPhone is also too small and too thin for many to hold comfortably. So yes, the iPhone *could* be plastic but that doesn't mean the S3/S4 *should* be plastic. Fewer S3/S4 users use cases. Different product, different perception.

Phones should either be designed to take a case or their materials should be high enough quality to stand alone. Neither the iPhone nor the S3/S4 get this exactly right.

Re:Galaxy needs a redesign (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283075)

This is the typical Samsung way - they make a product based on the competition, and then start throwing features into it whether they make sense or not, as well as going with traditional product think like 'well if 4" screens were good, then 5" screens must be better, because it's a whole extra inch!'

They then flood the market, and see what gets traction.

Posting anonymously because someone will think this is somehow a Samsung-bashing post, when it isn't. It's just what they do, and it works. It may not be the most efficient way, but it's an effective way.

Re:Galaxy needs a redesign (3, Interesting)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | about a year ago | (#44283279)

Am I the only one who thinks it's in fact you that's the problem? You didn't like the S3, saying it's too thin, has a bad battery, and poor button placement, then go on to slate the next iteration of that handset? Dude, take your experience and learn from it; Don't look at buying a Samsung Sx next time. There are hundreds of Android phones available. Hell, the Nexus 4 is half the price, just as capable, and not bound to a network contract.

Next: Super Duper Hyper (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#44282719)

7-11 noticed they could just make a bigger cup and people would buy it, in a process without end.

budget phones from Samsung (1)

strstr (539330) | about a year ago | (#44282755)

in other news, these are budget versions of the Galaxy S4 series and Galaxy Note series. note the price, the LCD instead of super amoled screen, and the dual core instead of quad core. and apparently cheaper chipset on the phone (only HSPA+ 21, vs 42). no other details about the phones.

the Galaxy S4 is maxed out, nicest hardware you can get. just, not in a large size like this budget big phone. The Galaxy Note 2 is nearly as large, but has Super AMOLED screen, and quad core.

ghetto blaster (1)

joss (1346) | about a year ago | (#44282765)

We've been through this a few times. Once upon a time portable stereos were cool, they made them as small as possible. Then people realised the really tiny ones sounded like shit so they got bigger, and bigger until 'portable' needed quotes.

Being quite anti-mobile I'm quite keen on this new trend as quite a few people who use them run out of battery so often they end up giving up and getting over their mobile phone habit so you can engage them in conversation again. It's progress.

Meanwhile Apple... (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a year ago | (#44282777)

is not aware that phone size is anything worth fighting about. (I still think they should build phone capability into the iPad Mini).

Just Remember... (1)

BlogTheHaggis (1361307) | about a year ago | (#44282835)

... It's not the size that counts. It's how you use it...

Nothing new (1)

pahles (701275) | about a year ago | (#44282843)

Seen them here in the Netherlands over a month ago...

the phones, they are a-changin' (1)

Biosci777 (2785273) | about a year ago | (#44283211)

It was not so long ago that phones were shrinking over time, to the point people were asking how small they could get and still be useful. Now we're facing the *opposite* issue! What I think is happening is actually: phones and computers continue to shrink, so we've merged them. However, we want bigger and bigger screens (as other posters have mentioned). That's the only reason for the increased sizes.

Too Big (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283269)

I just got a Galaxy S4. It's great, except... IT'S TOO BIG for a phone that goes in your pocket! IT'S TOO BIG to hold against your head when speaking on the phone.

It's a fantastic mini computer or internet terminal. Its physical dimensions make it a poor portable phone.

Impressive featues, except... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44283273)

Am I the only one who finds it super annoying all these "high end phones" are still being shipped with the almost decade and a half old tech??? Come one, switch to USB 3.0 for #$%^ sakes.

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