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Peter Wayner Talks About His New Book, Future Ride (Video)

Roblimo posted 1 year,9 days | from the our-new-car-tells-the-government-everything-we-do-and-everywhere-we-go dept.

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We've already done two video interviews with Peter Wayner. Third time being the charm, his latest book, Future Ride, is now out and available for purchase. If you've followed and possibly even enjoyed this string of interviews with Peter, Future Ride might be valuable reading material for you. It's what I call a "futureproofing" book, and in today's fast-changing world being prepared for tomorrow -- even just in the sense of thinking about the many ways our society might change if our cars and trucks drive themselves -- is valuable for business and career reasons, aside from the sheer joy of speculating about what the future may hold.

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Happy Tuesday from The Golden Girls! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44300847)

Thank you for being a friend
Traveled down the road and back again
Your heart is true, you're a pal and a cosmonaut.

And if you threw a party
Invited everyone you knew
You would see the biggest gift would be from me
And the card attached would say, thank you for being a friend.

Re:Happy Tuesday from The Golden Girls! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44300883)

Enough. This shit need to STOP and, whoever is currently programming this site, needs to learn how to setup a goddamn filter.

Run your site, or don't, enough with this crap.

anything new that wasn't in popsci 20 years ago? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | 1 year,9 days | (#44300857)

anything new that wasn't in popsci 20 years ago?
also, is that a ref code I spot on the amazon link..

will in the future jobs all be covert advertising things that I HAVE TO HAVE to be safe from DA FUTURE!?

Re:anything new that wasn't in popsci 20 years ago (1)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,9 days | (#44300903)

anything new that wasn't in popsci 20 years ago?
also, is that a ref code I spot on the amazon link..

will in the future jobs all be covert advertising things that I HAVE TO HAVE to be safe from DA FUTURE!?

Remember when everyone was all big on "web 2.0" because of "information revolution" type bullshit. I wish we could go back before that happened, because using news-aggregators(like slashdot) as advertisement targets hadn't happened yet. Digg ruined the internet.

Re:anything new that wasn't in popsci 20 years ago (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44302911)

Yah, I know about future proofing. But Digg ruined the Internet and then the Internet ruined Digg. It's a small shell of its former self. Amazing, really.

Re:anything new that wasn't in popsci 20 years ago (1)

peterwayner (266189) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301281)

I don't know if there's much in it that wasn't in Jules Verne more than 100 years ago. :-)

But I did try to bring together some basic numbers that offer some context to help readers think about some of the ways that the autonomous car can change society. It's a deliberately short and simple book. It's more of a seed that helps the reader crystalize his or her thoughts.

Interesting concept (1)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,9 days | (#44300869)

But it doesn't really need a book advertisement built in to discuss the long term implications AI and other technologies will have on travel. There's a lot to say about the particular professions that will disappear, the rights of passage that won't exist, the economic and safety benefits, and the increased importance of energy production. All that doesn't mean this author has a uniquely interesting perspective.

Re:Interesting concept (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44301117)

Yeti more interesting intercept!
Wonderful reading, BUT.......
What on earth would you do when that deranged lunatic is stalking you, vehicularly?
Autonomy is a great thing, but when applied to non-cellular "rational" entities (on this planet, in any case), perhaps the human-control override switch should be easily actuated (noooooooo! no touch-screens with your 'enhancements'!!!!)

"One day I decided to try out a new massage-chair in a large shopping-centre in Singapore. The control panel was labelled in a language foreign to me, and when the pleasant vibrating pulse changed into *foreign equivalent to boa-constrictor mode*, the whole shopping mall was quiet in comparison to the screams of pain from the elecTRONic appliance section." -SETI the Yeti

Re:Interesting concept (1)

peterwayner (266189) | 1 year,9 days | (#44302943)

I think we're going to see some clever work come out of Hollywood that may answer your question. The regular car chase is a bit tired, but it's going to be different when the robots drive the cabs. "The Fifth Element" was pretty cool. I think we'll see some more that try to answer the question of what to do when you can't get away.

as long as we get basic income / and health care (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301239)

or Leopoldo will stands to there jobs going a way.

Also some stuff like self check out have not really worked out that well.

Re:as long as we get basic income / and health car (1)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301461)

Do your part, shoot a super-wealthy person today! No, but seriously, don't be in the U.S. as the unskilled jobs start disappearing entirely.

how will they handle bad drivers? (1)

alen (225700) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301065)

because those are the ones that won't buy into this tech

my guess is that 5% of the people on the road are the really bad drivers who violate the laws on a regular basis
the next 5% do it sometimes to speed up a trip if they are in a hurry

if you have a robot driving your car that follows all laws then the 10% of bad drivers will easily cut in front of you and double the time of your trip

its a good idea on the surface but will never work in the real world because tech rarely overcomes human instinct to make risky decisions for very little upside or time saved

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44301151)

Or the bad writers who don't know how to use capitals and such. A robot wont drive the 10% of getaway cars either.

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301285)

I picture something along the lines of:

"Human drivers acting irrationally...does not compute....does not compute....MUST KILL ALL HUMANS!"

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (1)

AdamThor (995520) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301883)

I have found people willing to stroll (or even drive!) verrrry slowwwlllly when fingering their smartphones. Autodrive will have angry birds on the side, no one will care how long the trip takes. We'll be lucky if (post autodriving cars) people will even be able to find their own way around.

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44302133)

Yup, people will be reading, working or sleeping. I look forward to sleeping on the way to work.

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | 1 year,9 days | (#44302091)

Solution: "diamond" lanes for robo-drivers only. If robots have a separate lane, you could have them go 170km/h and drive bumper to bumper: enough of a benefit to convince notorious speeders to go robo.

The real benefit of robo drivers however is for people who don't need a car every day, but really have no viable alternatives on days that they do need one. In the near future, rentals might be a viable option even for people living in the sticks. Dial up the rental company and place your order, and 1 hour later the rental vehicle pulls up in front of your house. Done with the car? Send it off to return to the lot by itself.

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (1)

peterwayner (266189) | 1 year,9 days | (#44302283)

I think the benefit for the casual drivers will be big. We're already seeing the explosion of companies like Uber and Zipcar. I think we'll see plenty of self-driving robots acting as cab companies.

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44302841)

Can we sleep at work too?

Re:how will they handle bad drivers? (1)

peterwayner (266189) | 1 year,9 days | (#44303213)

And you can work in the car too.

RE: Asiana flight 214 (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301803)

Do Pilots Rely Too Much on Technology? [findlaw.com]

Requirements for private level pilot's license (most common non-commercial license):

- Be at least 17 years old (16 years old for glider or balloon rating)
- Be able to read, speak, write and understand the English language
- Obtain at least a third class medical certificate from an Aviation Medical Examiner (except for glider or balloon)
- Pass a computerized aeronautical knowledge test
- Accumulate and log a specified amount of training and experience, including the following:
- If training under Part 61, Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) section 61.109, requires at least 40 hours of flight time, including 20 hours of flight with -an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight (i.e., by yourself), and other requirements including cross-country flight, which include
  -Solo requirements:
- 5 hours of solo cross-country time
- One solo cross-country flight of at least 150 nmi (280 km) total distance, with full-stop landings at a minimum of three points and with one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 50 nmi (93 km) between the takeoff and landing locations
- Three solo takeoffs and landings to a full stop at an airport with an operating control tower.

Night requirements:
- 3 hours of night flight training
- One cross-country flight of over 100 nautical miles (190 km) total distance
- 10 takeoffs and 10 landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport
- 3 hours of flight training on the control and maneuvering solely by reference to instruments
- 3 hours of flight training for cross country flights
- 3 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test, which must have been performed within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test
- If training under Part 141, at least 35 hours of piloting time including 20 hours with an instructor and 5 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including cross-country and night flights
- Pass an oral test and flight test administered by an FAA inspector, FAA-designated examiner, or authorized check instructor

Requirements for a standard Class F Driver's License (General, varies from state to state):

- 16-21 years of age
- pass a simple written exam
- circle the block and parallel park

With more than 250,000,000 vehicles operating on public streets, [dot.gov] it sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

Re: Asiana flight 214 (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44301949)

Ah, but general aviation is being strangled in many other ways. Aviation fuel is outrageously expensive and getting more so. The air traffic controllers don't really want to deal with small planes. I wouldn't be surprised if the gun laws have an even lower age limit than a plane. Heck, do they have a limit?

Bad answer to the bridge question (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44301839)

Am i the only one that noticed the interviewer kept asking "what if a bridge is out? thats scary"

Why couldn't the interviewee just say: "its not just GPS, these automated cars use radar and laser systems to judge road problems"

Re:Bad answer to the bridge question (1)

peterwayner (266189) | 1 year,9 days | (#44301911)

Yup. You're right. And they have regular cameras too to do pattern recognition. Plus, they can communicate with each other to relay news to the cars that come behind them. There are multiple sensing vectors, as the AI guys might say.

Re:Bad answer to the bridge question (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44302505)

And plain old radar and probably some sonar too. Don't forget the oldies but goodies.

Re:Bad answer to the bridge question (1)

peterwayner (266189) | 1 year,9 days | (#44303221)

I wonder if anyone is using curb feelers. Those were great.

tubgi8L (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,9 days | (#44302003)

EFNet serv3rs. [goat.cx]

Fail (1)

Cammi (1956130) | 1 year,9 days | (#44305031)

Submitter forgot to provide the summary of the book .... fail.
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