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Famed ATM Hacker Barnaby Jack Dies Days Before Black Hat Conference

Unknown Lamer posted 1 year,25 days | from the too-young dept.

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wiredmikey writes "A shocking and sad day today in the security industry. Well known hacker Barnaby Jack has passed away, sending a shock through the security community. Jack, a famed white hat hacker, was scheduled to present at the Black Hat conference on Tuesday, and present research on vulnerabilities in implantable medical devices. Shocked reactions hit the Twittersphere on Friday, as many in the industry conveyed their condolences, shock, and even disbelief, hoping new of the death was some sort of hoax. 'I just wake up and heard this, really sad, I can't believe this, no words,' Cesar Cerrudo, CTO, IOActive Labs, said in an email to SecurityWeek. Barnaby Jack is probably best known for his ATM hacking demonstrations, which he liked to refer as 'Jackpotting,' and performed at a few conferences, including a demonstration at Black Hat 2010 that got media attention around the world. The San Francisco Medical Examiner's office told Reuters that Jack had died in San Francisco on Thursday, but did not provide additional details."

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Myes, myes... (5, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | 1 year,25 days | (#44391749)

. The San Francisco Medical Examiner's office told to Reuters that Jack had died in San Francisco on Thursday, but did not provide additional details."

Well, that is the official version of events, yes. -- NSA

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

mjwalshe (1680392) | 1 year,25 days | (#44391843)

or Russian mafia

Re:Myes, myes... (2)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392199)

geez, this is getting scary. what we've seen in the last month or so:
* Snowden
* PRISM access at providers
* BLARNEY access at internet hubs
* SSL workarounds
* password collection
* "untimely death" of security researcher right before black hat conference.

what's going to be next?

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392401)

>what's going to be next? You getting back on your meds?

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393367)

Last month or so? What happened - did you sober up or something?

Business As Usual. Nothing to see here, comrade. Move along, please.

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44395257)

Cory Monteith, 31 year old star of the popular Fox show "Glee," dies of a "drug overdose" days before he was scheduled to come out publicly in favor of eliminating DRM on music and videos!

It must be a conspiracy - we all know the NSA is in bed with the MPAA and RIAA!

Young people - especially young people who are rich, successful, and 'celebrities' for some reason NEVER die unless the government kills them!

Fuck dude, are you really this retarded? The NSA didn't murder him. He probably killed himself, OD'ed, or had a bad heart or blood vessel in his brain that finally let go. Just because it's theoretically "possible" the NSA took a hit out on him doesn't mean that EVERYTHING BAD IN THE WORLD is a result of the NSA's malfeasance.

Re:Myes, myes... (3, Insightful)

ilsaloving (1534307) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392021)

Why is the parent marked troll? A young guy dies days before he was going to give a lecture during a security conference, and they won't say how he died?

How does that *not* sound suspicious?

Re:Myes, myes... (5, Informative)

Dputiger (561114) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392191)

It doesn't sound suspicious at all if you think about it. It takes an autopsy to determine cause of death, and that takes a few days at least.

Re:Myes, myes... (4, Insightful)

ebno-10db (1459097) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392457)

It doesn't sound suspicious at all

I disagree. The guy was 34-35. Presumably he didn't get hit by a truck or shot in the head, as you don't need an ME to figure out the basic cause. Do people that age just drop dead? Sure, sometimes, especially if they have known serious health problems. Even if they don't, it can happen (e.g. major aneurysm due to congenital weakness in an artery). It doesn't happen very often though.

I'm no conspiracy theorist and I wouldn't go around screaming ah ha! A little suspicion though, when it happens a few days before a hacker conference, and considering other things that have been happening lately, is another story.

Re:Myes, myes... (3, Interesting)

Dunbal (464142) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392551)

Do people that age just drop dead?

Yes they do. Not often, but it happens. I had "sudden cardiac death". I'm alive because it happened in an emergency room in front of a doctor. They called code, and brought me back. I was 30. I'm still here at 45, 5 bypasses, a defibrillator implant and 8 stents later. The odds increase if you consider this researcher was probably a nerd like most of us, meaning he was probably sedentary most of the time, and probably didn't exactly eat the best stuff for his health.

Re:Myes, myes... (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393835)

The question is whether or not the probability of dieing is significantly higher when you are about to appear at a hacker converence to discuss the hacking of implanted medical devices.

Re:Myes, myes... (3, Informative)

Dunbal (464142) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394715)

It could be. Stress. Stress releases cortisol and increases vascular tone through a higher baseline of catecholamines (epinephrine, norepinephrine) which leads to higher blood pressure. This puts more work on the heart since it has to increase its output to compensate for the increased resistance to blood flow. Stress can very well be a factor that causes a catastrophic event like this to happen. Usually when someone dies suddenly, it's a circulatory problem - stroke, heart attack, aneurysm, thrombosis. All of these have increased probabilities of happening when someone is under stress. Yeah, I'm a doctor, too - which is why I got so lucky and was standing in the middle of an ER when it happened to me :)

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392601)

It doesn't sound suspicious at all

I disagree. The guy was 34-35. Presumably he didn't get hit by a truck or shot in the head, as you don't need an ME to figure out the basic cause. Do people that age just drop dead? Sure, sometimes, especially if they have known serious health problems. Even if they don't, it can happen (e.g. major aneurysm due to congenital weakness in an artery). It doesn't happen very often though.

I'm no conspiracy theorist and I wouldn't go around screaming ah ha! A little suspicion though, when it happens a few days before a hacker conference, and considering other things that have been happening lately, is another story.

You really think that if he had something to reveal, and killing was on the table, that they would have waited this long? You dont give enough credit to our evil overlords. He would have been dead as soon as he knew.

Unless thats what they want us to think, and they really just killed him to see how many crazy conspiracy nuts would come out of the woodwork so they could round them up.

Posting AC because i forgot my password.

Re: Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393111)

If you flat out don't allow for either possibility in the face of not knowing what happened, you are shutting yourself off from free thought. Certainly it could have been natural. Certainly it could be intentional and malicious. Taking either side is a statement about your personal belief system rather than any real statement about the reality of what happened to him. Know is the time to play with conjecture and open the conversation up to possibilities. Not shut them down.

Re:Myes, myes... (2)

Talderas (1212466) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392855)

In the deaths of most young people an autopsy is performed precisely for the reasons you state. Unless the cause of death is readily apparent, most younger people are healthy enough that they do not just fall over dead. The results of the autopsy won't and can't be known for a couple days but there are plenty of non-spectacular causes of death the least of which is drugs or alcohol.

Re:Myes, myes... (2)

Dputiger (561114) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393231)

My point is not "There's no way this death COULD have been suspicious."

My point is "The reason a cause of death hasn't been released yet is because an autopsy and subsequent biochemical analysis takes time." There are blood tests to run, arteries to check, stomach contents to evaluate, etc, etc, etc. A lot of that is done by the doctor performing the autopsy, but confirmation takes a little while.

So while I acknowledge that the *death* may or may not turn out to be suspicious, the fact that we don't know the *cause* is not. Not yet.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393381)

What are we supposed to do with all this tin foil until then?

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

HairyNevus (992803) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394067)

Fun fact: "tinfoil hats" are, in fact a government conspiracy. Tin does absolutely nothing to deflect the alien mind-control waves the FBI has been using. The widespread usage of the term "tinfoil hat" has been leading people into using ineffective methods. Your hats need to made out of aluminum .

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44394747)

no no no, you can't hardly BUY proper tin foil anymore.

ALUMINUM foil is the conspiracy, to foil our hat making (so to speak).

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

Talderas (1212466) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393847)

I agree with you, which is why I wasn't responding to you.

Jumping to conclusions without evidence at this point is frankly, indicative of a behavior I would expect from the pleb and not from the type of people that I would normally assume browse this site.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

operagost (62405) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392939)

Do people that age just drop dead?

Suicide does the trick.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

Connie_Lingus (317691) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392949)

It doesn't sound suspicious at all

I disagree. The guy was 34-35. Presumably he didn't get hit by a truck or shot in the head, as you don't need an ME to figure out the basic cause. Do people that age just drop dead? Sure, sometimes, especially if they have known serious drug problems.

FTFY...not saying this guy did, but probably most high profile deaths with people his age are due to drug ODs

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44395373)

I'm no conspiracy theorist

Evidence in the form of the rest of your post suggests otherwise.

According to CDC mortality rates, it appears as if people in the 25-45 age groups die at an annual rate of roughly 300 deaths per 100,000 population in that bracket in the US alone.

That means that tens of thousands of 30-somethings die every year. That he happens to be a mild celebrity does not make him immune to suicide, drug overdose, cancer, diabetes and other metabolic disorders, aneurysm, heart attack, and a host of other possible causes of death. That you're going right to the "Hmm... I think the NSA might have killed him" is certainly evidence that you're a conspiracy theorist.

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392823)

And is just as easily "covered up".
More so in fact.

Would you say "They killed him" to some agency that just killed him?
Hell no you wouldn't, they'd kill you as well and they'd get some other guy to do it.
Not to mention they would probably pay you well too. After all, that huge budget for the military isn't exactly spent on the military, that is for sure, they are laughably bad for such a huge budget.

Of course, it could just be a legit death.
I wouldn't say as much that stress would have killed him since he is likely very passionate about his work and enthusiastic too. Possibly just sudden death or other illness or health related cause that is not known about by the public at large.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393005)

It doesn't sound suspicious at all if you think about it. It takes an autopsy to determine cause of death, and that takes a few days at least.

Lies. I watch NCIS and know an autopsy only takes the time to ride an elevator to the basement. Of course, the body is usually either clothed, or a bright light is shining upon his nether-regions, which are suspiciously eunich-like... so maybe it only works on aliens mascarading as marines.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

jeremyp (130771) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393471)

But they have exceptional people at NCIS. I've watched Timothy McGee crack a 256 bit symmetrical cipher in an afternoon using just his desktop PC which is especially astonishing given that the way he delivered the line "256 bit symmetrical cipher" strongly implied that he had no clue what a 256 bit symmetrical cipher is.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

rednip (186217) | 1 year,25 days | (#44395219)

Really? A TV show using made up science, next you'll claim that Scottie of Star Trek didn't really have any engineering skills and was simply some actor spouting out nonsense.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

Orne (144925) | 1 year,25 days | (#44395535)

But it was awesome nonsense . . .

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

DexterIsADog (2954149) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393937)

This is another case of "people are stupid, inobservant lumps who don't understand probability".

This is one data point, nothing to make any assumptions on. If you had perfect knowledge of all the people involved in that hacker conference, and what happened to them in the months leading up to the conference, you'd see all sorts of strange occurrences in their lives that ALSO don't imply nefarious government action.

Remember, this is the country where airline travel decreased by 30% after 9/11. Sure, there were multiple factors - one of them is certainly fear of terrorism. Were those people safer using *any* other form of transportation? Of course not.

Re: Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44394337)

You are another case of failing to see the Bayesian dimension to the issue.

Does it, in your opinion, happen often that controversial people drop dead of natural causes before major speaking engagements? To some degree, you can probably make a case for that on assumptions we both share. But you haven't made it.

Does it, in your opinion, happen often that people are successfully and discreetly assassinated? This is much harder for you to argue from our shared assumptions, because of the key word - discreetly. If it is true that it happens often, then by definition it's going to be hard to prove.

Your probability estimate for the second statement is going to matter a lot for your probability estimate that something fishy was going on in this particular case.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

slick7 (1703596) | 1 year,25 days | (#44396081)

How does that *not* sound suspicious?

NDAA, Obamanation's executive order kill list, Department of Human Sacrifice 2 bbbbbbillion rounds of hollowpoint ammo on taxpayer funds, fast and furious, suspicious? NAH.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392057)

Clearly it was suicide, he couldn't handle the fame so he shot himself with 3 different firearms.

Re:Myes, myes... (3, Funny)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392145)

He actually had to reload one of them.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392517)

We're still trying to figure out why he tied himself to a chair first.

Re:Myes, myes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44395231)

He accelerated into a tree, his engine landed 100 feet away, his car was engulfed in flames from front to back, towed to an known location, and police refuse to acknowledge any FOIA requests for the report or provide access to the car for 3rd party analysis.

Re:Myes, myes... (1)

helix2301 (1105613) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392975)

Huge loss to the security community his information were always informative great mind and presenter.

I'm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44391779)

I'm shocked.

Looks like someone... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44391795)

Hit the jackpot.

Can someone show me the way out? Tough to see with these sunglasses on.

Sometimes people just die (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44391811)

Sometimes people just die.
Sometimes people get killed.
Sometimes people get killed by agencies funded by (yet unaccountable to) the United States Federal Government.

Not saying that's what happened. Just saying...

Re:Sometimes people just die (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392011)

Yeah, and sometimes they just make it OBVIOUS. Michael Hastings, anyone?

gang stalking at work (-1, Offtopic)

lebjoot (560242) | 1 year,25 days | (#44391903)

My bet: gang stalking at work. Protip: if you become a target, it is almost impossible to scape. Been a survivor myself Im still recovering. See www.stopOS.info or my site seguidos.wordPress.com (brazil/portuguese for now, sorry). Snowden is *nothing* compared with gang Stalking. It is a world fenomenon. Wikipedia say we are just very worried people. I assure you is not paranoia, but it is designed to be very hard to proof. Been a science guy myself I would not believe if it wasnt happened to me. But it can be explained with science. Thats what Im researching right now :). Please mod this up. Please promote those sites, as many geeks are been monitored right know, as I was (slahsdot since 1998) will be hit and wont even know what happened.

Re:gang stalking at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44391965)

Medication might help.

Re:gang stalking at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392159)

Or gangbanging...

Re:gang stalking at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392709)

Lebjoot here.
Hehe, that was funny :)

Re:gang stalking at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392217)

I was willing to give you benefit of the doubt. Since I've seen something vaguely like this happening. Read the PDF seriously, until it got to the methods of electronic harassment. Then I stopped reading and will now take neither you or this website seriously. Why? Bullshit like "Voice to skull" and "Electronics that affect the mind through walls". Then it just completely went off the wall and listed "Mind control" seriously. Way to lose all credibility, because quite simply this looks like and probably is nothing more than conspiracy theory. The same type of people who think they're allergic to wireless routers.

This is an insult to the great late Barnaby Jack, and you can go to hell.

Re:gang stalking at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392697)

Lebjoot here.
Sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention. Thanks for your time.

Re:gang stalking at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392957)

Then I stopped reading and will now take neither you or this website seriously. Why? Bullshit like "Voice to skull" and "Electronics that affect the mind through walls". Then it just completely went off the wall and listed "Mind control" seriously.

Brief yourself on one Jose Manuel Rodriguez Delgado for the tip of the iceberg, public realm not-secret-at-all stuff. The will clearly exists. So does the money. And if you have the capacity to research beyond your comfort zones, you'll discover, so does the tech.

Yes, sorry, electromagnetic signals can absolutely be used to excite different parts of the brain, and have been for a long time.

And once you're done being titillated by that freak show, hold on to your hat because then it gets really upsetting.

The "Greenbaum Speech" is required reading for anybody who wants to claim maturity in terms of awareness. http://www.empty-memories.nl/science/greenbaum.pdf [empty-memories.nl]

And sorry, but you're still just on the tip of the iceberg, but you'll need all that cold to stay chill.

Don't worry, though. You're not alone. Awareness leads to its own stability. The nameless anxieties people experience daily without really knowing why decreases a lot when you can put labels on the monsters. Beasties are a great deal less frightening when they have post it notes on their horns.

Nothing to see, move on. (1, Insightful)

auric_dude (610172) | 1 year,25 days | (#44391959)

A 50% chance of passing away prior to the start of the gathering and a 50% chance of passing away after the start of the gathering.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (3, Interesting)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392163)

Stop killing the fun. Paranoia is my favorite hobby.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392283)

Stop killing the fun. Paranoia is my favorite hobby.

paranoia is scheduled to be removed from the DSM VI because they are, in fact, watching.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393401)

Amateur.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392379)

A 50% chance of passing away prior to the start of the gathering and a 50% chance of passing away after the start of the gathering.

No. That math only works if you pick a time frame for the 'before' and 'after'. Otherwise, you've got years after, and much higher odds.

And if you pick a time frame, the 'nothing to see here' part no longer applies.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392693)

A 50% chance of passing away prior to the start of the gathering and a 50% chance of passing away after the start of the gathering.

You have to take in to account age and other factors, you need to compute the P(dying before gathering) which being mid 30s depending on how health you are and all that stuff is probably much lower than 50% and then you can computer the P(dying after gathering) which since most people live to 60 or more is probably quite a bit greater than 50%...

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (2)

Ly4 (2353328) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392889)

A 50% chance of passing away prior to the start of the gathering and a 50% chance of passing away after the start of the gathering.

I don't think you have much of a future as an insurance actuary.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392967)

A 50% chance of passing away prior to the start of the gathering and a 50% chance of passing away after the start of the gathering.

That's not how statistics work.
The guy was 35 years old and his chances of passing away before the start of Black Hat should have been significantly less than 50%, barring any pre-existing medical conditions or risky behaviors.

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393055)

A 50% chance of passing away prior to the start of the gathering and a 50% chance of passing away after the start of the gathering.

That's not how statistics work.
The guy was 35 years old and his chances of passing away before the start of Black Hat should have been significantly less than 50%, barring any pre-existing medical conditions or risky behaviors.

He had a chance of dying before the event, but I doubt they were anywhere close to 50%. However, his chance of dying after the event was less than, but approaches 100%

Someone needs to relearn their statistics (1)

MickLinux (579158) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393157)

Based on misreported deaths -- e.g., John Denver's death by aircraft misreported a week before the actual event -- there is a small (let's be generous, call it 0.1% ) chance that he did not die as of the time of publication by Reuters.

Because of that, his chance of dying after the Black Hat conference is nowhere close to 50%. His chance of dying before the event was less than, but approaches, 100%.

We adjust statistics to reflect known facts and known probabilities. The reports of his death are a known fact. Whether he in fact died is not a known fact.

[For you researchers out there: this is just like the rules for combining data sets: if the number of data points in each set is not known, you use one set of rules. If the number of points is known, you use a set of rules similar to combination of areas and moments of inertia with the Parallel Axis theorem. Use the correct combination equations for the situation, please]

Re:Someone needs to relearn their statistics (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393655)

Ya know, that's a good point - but the post title of "Someone needs to relearn their statistics" isn't. That title is more 'asshat'(99.9%) than 'helpful' (0.1%).

Re:Someone needs to relearn their statistics (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396005)

Ya know, that's a good point - but the post title of "Someone needs to relearn their statistics" isn't. That title is more 'asshat'(99.9%) than 'helpful' (0.1%).

However he was 100% right thus you have for all intents and purposes defined truth as asshattery.

Maybe you've made a mistake? Shouldn't it be you that is the asshat?

I dislike saying it (people use it as a get out of jail card) but sometimes the world seems to consist of almost nothing but the cursed Dunning-Kruger effect. If it was a specific technical or scientific issue or otherwise involving uncommon knowledge it would be “reasonable” but far too often it's the very basics of thinking that are being violated: why can you type but not think?

Re:Nothing to see, move on. (1)

DexterIsADog (2954149) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394003)

Yep, that's the same reason I bought a lottery ticket today. Either I'll win, or I won't. My odds are 50/50.

Hacked by Time (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44391997)

We are all honey pots for entropy

Shitty (5, Interesting)

Orgasmatron (8103) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392013)

That sucks.

He was an interesting character. He helped me sneak a girl into a hacker party at the Peppermill one year during Defcon. No one that drank with him, even once, will ever forget him.

God had better keep an eye on him. If the pearly gates have any exploits, he'll find them.

Re:Shitty (1)

arth1 (260657) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392277)

Sounds like an interesting person. However, I'm not sure I'd call him "famed" as TFA does, as he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.

(Which I'm sure will appear before long - once you're dead, everybody and their dog have always been your fans.)

Re:Shitty (1)

jittles (1613415) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392573)

Sounds like an interesting person. However, I'm not sure I'd call him "famed" as TFA does, as he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.

(Which I'm sure will appear before long - once you're dead, everybody and their dog have always been your fans.)

So that's what I got to do to get my dog to like me? Everyone said to try peanut butter....

I kid I kid. ;)

Eh (0)

fustakrakich (1673220) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392069)

Sometimes simply detaining a person is not enough. It attracts too much attention. Gotta take it to the next level. Good luck trying to prove anything.

They WILL kill you... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392071)

There has never been a time in Human history where the State did not kill those it considered too high a risk to society's welfare. This guy PROMISED to find the 'cracks' in public infrastructure that could be exploited to kill and maim. All Human engineering systems are imperfect in some way. When a person goes out his way to produce guides on how to sabotage the computers operating an elevator or pacemaker, he will end up dead, and there is no surprise to this outcome whatsoever.

Even the dumbest sheeple must comprehend that those that commit meta-crimes have placed a target on their foreheads. It doesn't matter what their excuse is- because everyone always has one excuse or another.

Now, I'm not arguing that the American agency that murdered him was morally justified- in this case maybe they were- but I am arguing that we are all responsible for the choices we make in life.

Take those people that disrupt forums, for instance. If they are intelligent, the trolls always play WITHIN the written rules, attempting to infuriate others so THEY step outside the guidelines and get banned. No rule set can target those who wish to be intelligently destructive (see Gödel for an explanation of this). Only the application of meta moderation can weed out the trolls by respecting the true purpose of the forum, and banning all those who clearly set their heart against the purpose of the forum.

Barnaby Jack has suffered meta moderation. His elimination can be compared to the young spy in the UK who ended up dead in his own flat inside his own sport's bag. At least in Jack's case, we know why he was put down. The Brit had offended just as badly, but how we may never know.

Unfortunately, to a vile and murderous regime like the one run by Obama, no distinction is made between 'good' and 'bad' kills. Obama just wants the power to kill whomsoever he currently ranks as a serious problem. I trust people here read the recent story about the journalist in Yemen that uncovered the truth about Obama's war crime in which he personally ordered a cruise missile armed with cluster bomb munition to wipe out a village filled with women and children. Barack 'Idi Amin' Obama howled and raged when the journalist proved the truth, and ordered the puppet regime of Yemen to imprison him for life. As a result the young man was falsely accused and falsely convicted. Appeal courts found in the journalist's favour, but Obama IN PERSON phoned the stooge that rules Yemen, and INSTRUCTED him to over-ride the courts, and keep him in prison.

Obama makes the worst gang-bangers that ever invaded a home, and raped, tortured and murdered the occupants, to seem like saints by comparison. Of course, Clinton II, or Bush III, or whomever the idiots that vote make president next, will be even worse. If you vote, whichever way you vote, your vote is a vote for THIS system. The ONLY way to vote against the system is to refuse to participate in the system. Not voting is a vote against the existing system. Legally, if too few people participate in active voting, there is a requirement to change the system.

Re:They WILL kill you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392189)

It's not just the USA, ask David Kelly how he feels about his "dead under a bush" joke (*).

Kelly spilled the beans on the Blair Dossier being full of poor and unreliable WMD intellegence and should not be used as a basis of a war. He joked that he'd be found dead under a bush, which is where he was found shortly after. Suicide.

Re:They WILL kill you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393203)

Please source that joke. Yes, the death was suspicious, that's documented. But if the joke has a source, it belongs in wikipedia.

Re:They WILL kill you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392203)

hmm, his pacemaker just started to go crazy for no apparent reason, I guess, he wasn't the only one that knew how to hack the pace maker. remote control death. This is strait out of sci fi.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

uncqual (836337) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392943)

It's not "hacking" when the government just uses the access codes to your pacemaker that the manufacturer so thoughtfully gave to them.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

Sla$hPot (1189603) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392227)

>If they are intelligent, the trolls always play WITHIN the written rules, attempting to infuriate others so THEY step outside the guidelines and get banned

Oh that sounds really clever.

Anybody knows what Jack died from?

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392811)

Anybody knows what Jack died from?

Well, SOMEbody does. But they're not telling.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392291)

You know, I can't say I'm a big fan of the President but that drivel you spout is ridiculous in the extreme. The fantasy world you live in makes Hollywood movies seem realistic. I'd be willing to bet my life that President Obama never ordered anyone to cluster bomb a village filled with women and children. It is possible that the military targeted a site thought to be a terrorist camp and it was filled with women and children. Maybe, but I doubt even that happened. You see, women and children are targets for the terrorists that think making war on women and children is the way to go since they know they stand zero chance in a stand up fight with US Marines. They like to put up anti-aircraft batteries in school yards filled with children so that either no one will attack them to prevent killing the children or if someone does attack them fools like you will say that they targeted the children and school and forget to mention a couple of hundred terrorists and weaponry. I dislike almost everything the President does but he's the elected President of my Nation and I resent this bullshit slander by a lying idiot like you.

Re:They WILL kill you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392477)

Two words - "collateral damage".

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392597)

Like I said, maybe. Collateral damage is not targeting someone. Collateral damage is what happens when a rocket launcher is shooting at you and you shoot back blowing up the launcher and, unfortunately, the people in the neighborhood where the launcher is located. For this reason people usually flee war zones but many times terrorists actually block people from leaving so they can up the likelihood of collateral damage.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

rot26 (240034) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393057)

That's a really self-serving definition of "collateral damage". You're a tool.

Re:They WILL kill you... (2)

DexterIsADog (2954149) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394137)

A better definition of collateral damage (that matches what the U.S. military and three letter agencies are actually doing) would be something like, "You're sitting in a trailer in Texas, watching a live feed from the UAV you're piloting over Pakistan, when you see a group of young men. Your supervisor tells you they're insurgents and you should kill them. You fire a missile at the group, entirely dismembering every one of them. They were standing next to a woman holding a baby who was walking by. She and the baby are splattered all over the ground." THAT'S collateral damage. Not just the woman in the baby, but between 0 and ALL of the group of young men identified as insurgents.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,25 days | (#44395695)

Your definition is also correct. There is no way to fight a war in an occupied city without killing civilians. In the parent's post however he made it sound as if those guys in that trailer were actually targeting the woman with the baby which is stupid. Even absent the wrongness of that it makes no sense even from a practical standpoint because it's a waste of resources to kill those that can't conceivably be a threat. The only way to avoid civilian deaths is to give up and leave. I can say that I think that may be a good idea but then eventually the area becomes a general threat again. Sometimes there is no good solution.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392583)

A month ago the idea that the US government was monitoring the entire internet, had access to every major ISPs records and could listen to anyone's phone calls at any time was a joke. Now look where we're at. I'm not saying we have to believe the wildest of conspiracy theories but at this point we have no baseline from which to compare. What the NSA is doing with their spying is so outrageous that I can no longer use common sense to judge if a conspiracy theory about their actions is more or less likely. Just because it defies common sense, just because it would cost billions, just because it would be technically infeasible, immoral, unconstitutional and would result it little or no benefit to the NSA, government or American people, no longer means they wont do it. If you would have asked me a month ago what was more likely, that the Government was doing what we now know the NSA is doing, or if the Government was executing reporters and security researchers it thought were a threat to national security, I'd have quickly said the latter.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

MickLinux (579158) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393243)

Actually, the joke was more like an ad on a college bulletin board:

"Did you know that the NSA is not only interested in spying, but also funds research in almost every field of university study? ... if you would like an application form for an NSA grant, call your mother and ask for one...."

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

jeremyp (130771) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393509)

A month ago the idea that the US government was monitoring the entire internet, had access to every major ISPs records and could listen to anyone's phone calls at any time was a joke.

Was it? It seemed totally plausible to me.

Re:They WILL kill you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392749)

You mad, bro?

Re:They WILL kill you... (2)

NatasRevol (731260) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392827)

I'd be willing to bet my life that President Obama never ordered anyone to cluster bomb a village filled with women and children. It is possible that the military targeted a site thought to be a terrorist camp and it was filled with women and children.

Yeah, if your second sentence is true, then your first sentence is false.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

Cabriel (803429) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394799)

Not so. An order by the military is not an order from Obama. This may come as a shock, but the the military occasionally acts without Obama's direct knowledge. If the first sentence is true, then Obama said "Bomb this place." The second sentence can happen entirely without that scenario.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394995)

I think the point he is trying to make is that there was never an order to bomb a village when it was known that it was filled with women and children, or that the point of the bombing was to kill said women and children.

Re:They WILL kill you... (1)

amiga3D (567632) | 1 year,25 days | (#44395701)

Ah! Someone who can read and comprehend. I actually think most deliberately misunderstand out of spite.

Editors (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392135)

Who edits these posts? Learn to re-read it.... spell check does not always help....

"hoping new of the death"

how about NEWS of the death....

RIP Barnes (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44392247)

You will be missed.

Money (2)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | 1 year,25 days | (#44392807)

I wonder how much his research would have cost device makers monetarily... Does anyone know if the research he was going to present is or will still be made publicly available?

Re:Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396039)

What he was presenting was not something he hadn't yet released to the public, he was presenting the same thing in Australia a few months back

age 35 young for a heart attack (1)

peter303 (12292) | 1 year,25 days | (#44393305)

But when I hear a man over 40 die suddenly its usually a heart attack, accident or suicide.

Peyton Rose (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393395)

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To err is human; To duplicate is divine. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44393409)

I follow the school of thought that I could be "hit by a bus" at any time. All my documents and code are in remote repositories ("commit" is my "save"), and I've arranged several ways for folks who need/want access to get it. A distributed replication strategy is dead simple -- git pull in a chron job does the trick for most of my stuff.
That way, I know anything I put in: ~/with/great/power/comes/great/responsibility/ will at least get seen by some people I trust.

For the casual deadman there's several online solutions [deadmansswitch.net] , even Google has theirs.

In a way, we live in a continuous afterlife where the passed pass the patterns of genes and minds towards eternity via cultural contributions. It's up to the living to carry on in the spirit of our deceased. It's a waste of life's works otherwise.

Now I'll have my moment of routing output to /dev/null/ in observance of Barnaby Jack, hoping none of his contributions will do the same.

Re:To err is human; To duplicate is divine. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396113)

Good stuff, will copy (preparing page on I2P, could take a very long time to get running). Feel free to share more details on the choices you've made.

Memes are becoming even more important it seems and quite a few of the widespread ones shared by nearly everyone on all sides of any issue are utterly wrong and harmful.

-- “Past the future”

Stuff is getting serious (1)

erroneus (253617) | 1 year,25 days | (#44394075)

That's just the thing here. Banking controls the world right now. We think it is government, but it's pretty much banking and money. As the global financial crisis comes closer to "the end of things" it's getting more and more serious. Now that the people hacking, cracking and exploiting vulnerabilities in money systems and services are becoming heroes to the people, the government can no longer be trusted to handle these people through official means.

We're going to see a lot more assassinations and mysterious deaths than we have been seeing lately.

Re:Stuff is getting serious (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396079)

Dude, can you fuck off until some more facts come out. Lots of people who read ./ are close friends of Barnaby or had the pleasure of spending time with this amazing guy at a con, the last thing they want to read is you trying to blow it out into a conspiracy.

WTF does the conference matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396065)

Why does TFA talk about proximity of the conference to the date of his death? Surely there are other things more notable about the man's life than this.

Re:WTF does the conference matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396151)

By noting the proximity of the conference date, they can encourage click-baited readers to invent wildly implausible conspiracy theories invented by tards with nothing better to do than watch Homeland and masturbate to images on 4chan.

"oooh, he died just before he was going to give a presentation - I BET HE WAS GOING TO CHOOSE SOME OBSCURE CONFERENCE TO BLOW THE LID OFF SOME NEFARIOUS GOVERNMENT PLOT AND BE A TRUE AMERICAN HERO, BUT THE NSA GOT TO HIM FIRST!"

It's foolish, and it's ridiculous, but this is Slashdot. You want real news, go somewhere else. You want biased clickbait, stay here.

To hack or be hacked, that is the question. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,25 days | (#44396097)

I kind of find it odd his passing, but what could it even mean. That someone hacked him perhaps. Will we ever even know.

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