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Fuel3D Start-Up Promises Affordable Point-and-Shoot 3D Scanner

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the building-on-the-go dept.

Technology 38

MojoKid writes "Fuel3D Inc. is a new start-up that recently arrived to Kickstarter, promising an 'affordable point-and-shoot 3D scanner' that will allow anyone to easily take 3D images for rendering and ultimately production on standard 3D printing platforms. The Fuel3D is a fully 3D surface scanner that samples a large number of physical and color measurements including geometric stereo and photometric stereo data, which it then combines to create the image. The kicker is that the device—which kind of resembles a Roomba--costs under $1,000, and it works just like a point-and-shoot camera. You simply attach a tag called a target to the person or object you want to scan and snap the picture. Then, you can work with the image and export it in a variety of formats."

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Know what I want? (4, Interesting)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about a year ago | (#44453243)

I want a program where I can take a video camera(aka smart phone), and walk around inside a building, aiming the camera around the walls and all over. And the end result would be a 3d model of the building I was in. This would be great for making video games. And attach it to the Google Car: And we could play Need for Speed: Cannon Ball run.

Re:Know what I want? (1)

Camembert (2891457) | about a year ago | (#44453273)

I can see this coming. I remember this Microsoft tech demo of a 3D model of the Notre dame church in Paris generated from thousands of tourist pictures.

Re:Know what I want? (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | about a year ago | (#44453347)

You're thinking of http://photosynth.net/ [photosynth.net] . I put up a few sets back in 2008 and 2009.

It looks like they tuned it up a bit. The SR-71 at Smithsonian Dulles" [photosynth.net] set didn't work very well when I first put it up.

The "Downtown Los Angeles 11.20.2008" [photosynth.net] set is interesting. The hotel room kind of fades in and out because I moved around while I was shooting it.

They must have been very selective, or they did some extra processing, to make theirs look really good.

Re:Know what I want? (2)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#44453427)

There's also an open-source project also aiming at something like PhotoSynth, Insight3d [sourceforge.net] . I haven't tried it myself, though.

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44455285)

Thanks for that link, it's awesome.

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44453279)

And I want Sourceforge to be back online.

Or at least a status update would be nice...

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44453299)

Oops, looks like something went wrong.

For updates, follow us on twitter [twitter.com] or check the status dashboard. While we fix the issue checkout Slashdot or Thinkgeek.

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44453315)

Oops, looks like something went wrong.

For updates, follow us on twitter [twitter.com] or check the status dashboard. While we fix the issue checkout Slashdot or Thinkgeek.

Their last Twitter update was July 9th.

Re:Know what I want? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year ago | (#44453433)

ever since they switched to their spyware downloader I dont give a shit anymore

Re:Know what I want? (2)

AHuxley (892839) | about a year ago | (#44453381)

Thinking about http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/07/3d-printed-aston-martin/ [wired.com]
I wonder how small the 3d scanning tech could go?
Could a fake bulky dslr battery pack fit a 3d scanner under a camera?
Bring a tethered laptop and a friend for the day at the show and scan away?

Re:Know what I want? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44453537)

I know this will probably get lost in the comments but, when my mom isn't home I like to go into her garden, cover myself in dirt, and pretend I'm a carrot.

Re:Know what I want? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454453)

Oh so that's you! I'm the guy in her garden pretending to be rutabaga.

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454749)

I don't want that. Have you seen how shitty the non user-made buildings in Google Earth look?

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454757)

Agisoft Photoscan: http://www.agisoft.ru/

Re:Know what I want? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454847)

There is an autodesk tool for IOS that does this called 123 Catch. You take up to 40 pictures of an object from all different perspectives and it makes a skinned mesh of the object.

Re:Know what I want? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44456649)

123D Catch [123dapp.com]

Photoscan [agisoft.ru]

Bundler [cornell.edu]

etc.

Point and Shoot? (2)

Culture20 (968837) | about a year ago | (#44453285)

3D? That's terrorist talk!

Re:Point and Shoot? (1)

muphin (842524) | about a year ago | (#44453423)

i know this was tongue-in-cheek
but getting accurate dimensions of something and finding its weak spots would be easier with a scale model....

Re:Point and Shoot? (4, Funny)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#44453429)

With all these terrorist accusations it's like a pressure cooker in the comments section lately.

Re:Point and Shoot? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about a year ago | (#44453453)

3D printing will build up steam in 2014, thanks to the expiration of key patents.
I wonder if a 3D scanner can fit in a back pack for hours of battery powered urban scanning on the move?

Re:Point and Shoot? (1)

game kid (805301) | about a year ago | (#44453459)

You're right, we should cool off and try less hotly-debated subjects like world trade.

Re:Point and Shoot? (1)

shione (666388) | about a year ago | (#44453643)

Iraq has some really cool historical places which would be awesome to recreate in 3d on a backpackers holiday trip.

Re: Point and Shoot? (1)

Adriax (746043) | about a year ago | (#44454075)

Just make sure no one is searching for cookware while you plan out your Backpack trip to Iraq.

Re:Point and Shoot? (2)

gmack (197796) | about a year ago | (#44454779)

Only Score:4? I think your pressure cooker joke kind of bombed.

Re:Point and Shoot? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44455023)

Next time, go for the one about the ricin cooker.

3D Technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44453551)

I love all this fancy new 3D technology thats coming out.

If only the real world was in 3D, that would just be awesome!

Better than a Kinect? (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about a year ago | (#44453689)

How is it better than a Kinect and open-source software you can download for free?

Yes, better than a Kinect (1)

HannethCom (585323) | about a year ago | (#44453859)

The 3D resolution is a lot better, just see the kickstarter page.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45699157/fuel3d-a-handheld-3d-scanner-for-less-than-1000?ref=live [kickstarter.com]

Also it uses a proper depth sensor that doesn't need to be manually calibrated. (Last I read Kinect has to be manually calibrated for depth each time it is used)

Yes you can create colour 3D models with a Kinect, but this is designed to that a snapshot that is usable for high quality 3D prints, use for commercial 3D, or scaling down to game polygon count.

From what I'm reading the Kinect is kind of like your camera phone. Not bad, but not particularly good either. The Fuel3D is more like a DSLR.

Re:Yes, better than a Kinect (3, Interesting)

Wingman 5 (551897) | about a year ago | (#44454185)

There is a good image example [amazonaws.com] on their page comparing the two. The left image is their scanner, the right is the kinnect.

The multiple flash light source is useful. (1)

Animats (122034) | about a year ago | (#44453793)

The multiple-flash light source thing is a good idea. Someone did that about seven years ago [rogerioferis.com] with a modified Canon PowerShot. They had four flash units, one at each corner of the case, and it would take four pictures, one with each flash. The paper shows the test setup, but later they built a camera with the four flash units built in.

This Kickstarter project doesn't really produce a 3D model by itself. You need an external stitching program to put multiple images together into a model, they say.

Programs for building a model from multiple 3D images have been around for 15 years or so. Much of the early work was done at U.C. Berkeley. A Stanford group did a lot of high-res work, including imaging parts of the Vatican. Autodesk 123Catch [123dapp.com] , can build a 3D model from a collection of images without a special camera.

Re:The multiple flash light source is useful. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44464945)

Looks like they are working on the software solution as part of the campaign with the meshup option (also previously /.ed):
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45699157/fuel3d-a-handheld-3d-scanner-for-less-than-1000#project_faq_63979
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/723819776/meshup-mashup-for-meshes

What's this "tag" business? (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#44454313)

You simply attach a tag called a target to the person or object you want to scan and snap the picture.

So then I have a 3D model of my object - with a tag on it? I can't see anything about tagging at the official site or the Kickstarter page.

Here's an actual link [fuel-3d.com] to the company. I'd have thought TFS would have one, let alone TFA, but no.

Not 360 degrees (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454589)

How are people to scan their cocks with this thing? After all that's what most people would want a 3D scanner for. It needs to come some kind of stand (with removable gloryhole) that the scanner rotates around.

Sexual use (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454857)

Now we can have more realistic dildos than ever!

Why not link to kickstarter? Article has it wrong. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44454989)

> When the folks behind Fuel3D say they have a 3D camera scanner, they’re not talking about a simple stereoscopic device; rather the Fuel3D is a “fully 3D surface scanner consisting of a large number of physical and color measurements” including geometric stereo and photometric stereo data, which it then combines to create the image.

Plain Wrong. As far as the kickstarter page tells, it is only stereoscopic cameras with stereo algorithms to calculate 3D object data.

> In contrast, the core technology behind Fuel3D fuses geometric and photometric stereo 3D recovery techniques and is finely tuned to capture high resolution 3D color images. This raw capability provides the opportunity for an object to be captured in true 3D geometry and full color.

Almost like video trace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4obTZV2QEM) but without manual postprocessing.

btw. the kickstarter is already funded:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45699157/fuel3d-a-handheld-3d-scanner-for-less-than-1000

Re:Why not link to kickstarter? Article has it wro (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44464999)

In fact the scanner combines several known technologies in a unique way that has never been commerically offered before - it is not just using photogrammetry. It also has simplified 'scanning' into a point and shoot interface (unlike the arm waving required for other handheld scanners) - then add in the price point and double rez compared to the nearest scanners like the Creaform Go and this is a new product category. Full disclosure - I am one of the folks working with the kickstarter campain.

Depth map can be gathered by different ways (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44459267)

Pixel depth info from focus stack:
http://www.stareat.it/sp.aspx?g=3ce7bc36fb334b8d85e6900b0bdf11c3
Combined with high resolution Lytro type camera, that would be quite interesting.

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