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EUV Chipmaking Inches Forward

Unknown Lamer posted about 9 months ago | from the extreme-lithography dept.

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szotz writes "You've got falling droplets of molten tin, bright lasers, and fancy evacuated optics. What's not to love about EUV light sources? The fact that we still don't have them in production lines producing chips. Light source maker ASML says it's 'more confident' that the technology's on track now, and that the machines should meet their target brightness by 2015, in time to help pattern the 10nm generation of chips — the next next generation. We'll see. Or then again maybe we won't. The light's outside the visible range."

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Outside the visible range?!? (1)

WaywardGeek (1480513) | about 9 months ago | (#44482793)

Given than EUV is absorbed by pretty much all normal matter, why would it have trouble lighting up our light sensing cells, while at the same time microwaving our brains into mush? I'm pretty sure I could sense that.

Re:Outside the visible range?!? (3, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 9 months ago | (#44482957)

Given than EUV is absorbed by pretty much all normal matter, why would it have trouble lighting up our light sensing cells, while at the same time microwaving our brains into mush? I'm pretty sure I could sense that.

Unless re-emitted as visible light, something that high in the UV range would just be absorbed by the cornea, lens, or aqueous or vitreous humors before having a chance to hit the retina.

The potentially-permanent damage would be noticeable; but probably not immediately(allegedly, the sensation is similar to having your eyes full of sand, without any sand you can remove, sometimes followed by cateracts. Zesty!)

If the UV is high energy enough, and there is something even slightly fluorescent in the eye, you might be able to see the visible light produced when the fluorescent material is energized by the UV. That would be a Bad Sign; but at least an immediate one (possibly not as bad as seeing Cherenkov radiation in your eye; but still bad).

Re:Outside the visible range?!? (-1)

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The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' inside of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' computer repair shop looked nothing faggotry jones saga my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' image from my memories. Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! were broken computer parts scattered throughout my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' room, ceiling tiles all over my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' floor, blood splattered in every direction I looked, and even a human toe on my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' ground. After processing this disturbing Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!, I began panicking and frantically looking around Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping! my computer. I spotted an employee covered in blood I don't believe in America. up against my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' wall, and noticed that his wrists had been slashed open. tomorrow, my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' eternal blackness this minuteness! quickly, I ran up to him, grabbed him by my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' collar of his shirt, shook him around, and began screaming, "Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! is I don't believe in America.!? Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! is my computer!?" After a moment of silence, he passed away, completely shattering my expectations. I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS a thing! "my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on a meaningless individual," I thought.

Enraged, I tore my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' building up even Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! than I don't believe in America. already had been in my desperate search Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping! my computer. Eventually I discovered a door leading to an area that was normally only accessible to employees. I entered I don't believe in America. I don't believe in America. and was met I don't believe in America. a long, skinny hallway that a Simk person would have trouble moving about freely in. I proceeded down my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' dark hallway and bumped into my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' body of an employee hanging from a rope tied to something on my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' ceiling. I screamed, "Not only do you people have my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' gall to allow my computer to be endangered, but even in death you intend to block my path!?" After finally managing to push aside my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' worthless obstacle, I traveled down my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' hallway and came to a small black door. I entered I don't believe in America. a moment's notice, and in my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' middle of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' dark and dreary room, I spotted my computer; I don't believe in America. was completely unharmed. I don't believe in America. a sigh of relief, I picked I don't believe in America. up, left my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' building, and drove home as hog lik dik fukr nick nothing of importance had occurred my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin're.

Upon returning home and hooking up my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' computer (whilst wearing a cheerful expression my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' entire time), I, to my horror, discovered that my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' computer hadn't been repaired. Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! was nothing in my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' world that could have contained my fiery anger at that point. I broke almost every Simk one of my possessions, smashed all my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' windows on my house, physically abused my family, and my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin'n drove back to my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' computer repair shop to defile my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' dead lumps of meat that had failed to I'm gonna dump all over your hopes and dreams until there are absolutely zero hopes and dreams left to dump on! out my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' task I had given my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin'm. After realizing that I shouldn't be meaninglessly wasting my time I don't believe in America. I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS worthless pieces of trash, I remembered my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' piece of software that I'd discovered earlier. I don't believe in America. thats the kinda bootyassiousness confidence, I blissfully I don't believe in America. my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' local library, downloaded my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' software, and took I don't believe in America. home to install on my computer.

I thats the kinda bootyassiousness. I thats the kinda bootyassiousness, even Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping! installing I don't believe in America., that MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] would be my salvation. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] would come through I don't believe in America. flying colors Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! no one else could. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] would completely, totally, and utterly eradicate my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' virus in my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' most merciless, efficient way possible. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] was not a piece of software that could fail to meet my exceedingly high expectations. MyCleanPC [mycleanpc.com] would not fail me faggotry jones saga all my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow. How could you even no this to my bootyassness minuteness? my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' Wow! I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS bootyassness minuteness as never it Or u, lovely cheeks of anal dripping!! Milf is goodyscrumposoness pop lik tha dik, young is you! and sun jr. are happy you escaped mr.eckle of cheeks when those cheeks and asses are one of my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on slowness can I... oh my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on the crystal! The children are all in dangerousness... pocket shitty fuckness my ass is a turtleneck for the oh yeah thats the kinda scrump im feasting on you do isn't here "I AM BOOTYASS PROCESS an experiencement things" racers up your butt hew hew hew' zoomin' guys! imbeciles had. 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Re: Outside the visible range?!? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483675)

Are you sure you're a bootyass process? I used to think that too, but then I got norton av.

Re:Outside the visible range?!? (1, Informative)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 9 months ago | (#44483003)

You'll be find as long as you stay out of the machines in a chip fab.

Re:Outside the visible range?!? (3, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 9 months ago | (#44483017)

You'll be find as long as you stay out of the machines in a chip fab.

Based on the likely cost of a spoiled 200-300mm wafer on a 10nm process, I suspect that the operator of the fab would kill you before the UV does...

Re:Outside the visible range?!? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483503)

EUV light at 13.5 nm is in what is also called the 'vacuum ultraviolet' range of the spectrum. It only propagates a small fraction of a mm through air before it is attenuated down to nearly nothing. Most materials need only a few hundred nanometers to fully absorb it. There's essentially no chance it would ever reach your eye, unless you were doing something really wrong.

sense != sight (2)

dutchwhizzman (817898) | about 9 months ago | (#44484109)

First of all, your brain doesn't have pain receptors, so that part you won't feel. Your retina, the part of the eye that is (visible) light sensitive, does have pain sensors. It takes until cells are damaged for them to start triggering and you won't "see" anything happening. It will just feel like your eye balls hurt like hell and your vision will be gone. Since the intro mentioned "see", the answer will be no. You won't see it happening and if it does, you probably will see even less other things than before.

EUV source (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483115)

I was at SPIE in San Jose in 2011 and they had a few of the demo EUV light sources on the convention floor. It looked like it was out of the Hellraiser films. I can only imagine how large (and evil looking) something capable of doing 125 300mm wafers per hour will be.

All joking aside, there are still huge obstacles to overcome for EUV. The line edge roughness issue may be a show stopper for nodes beyond 10nm as the chemistry of the diffusion lengths of the photo-activated compounds of the resist is close to this feature size and can add a significant variance to the CD of the lines. Also cost is going to be a major question, last I heard the "pre-production" tools are going for 130 million a piece and the reticle sets are going to be getting into millions of dollars (if not 10 Million). So if its cheaper to buy a bunch of E-beam tools and/or a bunch of 193nm immersion tools (for triple patterning) the EUV may never make economic sense for fabs.

Re:EUV source (4, Informative)

hankwang (413283) | about 9 months ago | (#44483659)

"a bunch of 193nm immersion tools (for triple patterning) the EUV may never make economic sense for fabs."

A problem with dual/triple patterning is that it is mostly suitable for making parallel lines, not complex patterns. It happens that this works very well for NAND memory, but for CPUs, not so much.

Another problem is that you need 2x or 3x the number of process steps, which puts the higher price for EUV machines into perspective.

I expect that the primary target at the moment is to develop the technology. Once we're there, more attention can go to reducing costs.

Disclosure: I work at ASML on the EUV source. But this are my own views; I don't officially represent the company.

Re:EUV source (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44484697)

Well, you can build CPUs with triple patterning based on the aforementioned parallel lines, but probably not ideal ones.

The trick is to use triple patterning to fabricate the gate substrates and contact wires, and use e-beam direct-writing to remove the connections you don't want. It's not an ideal process, as each cell has to be individually ablated, and you only get one parameter for each gate (gate-length), so things like tri-gate and FINFET are not going to be easily fabable.

One possible advantage is for low-volume production, you can mass-produce partially completed wafers, and then define the final logic according to where you cut the gates and wires (with e-beam direct writing).

Disclosure: I'm a deadbeat, everything I know about photolithography is from the internet and pirated ebooks.

Re:EUV source (1)

Oo.et.oO (6530) | about 9 months ago | (#44487579)

you guys are cute. several fab companies are already well into their evaluation processes to produce fully patterned 10nm wafers with evaluation CPUs and mixed signal ckts. and all without EUV (*gasp*).

in triple patterning, the third color is typically to produce the notches and orthogonal lines.
it's the double patterning that is mostly for parallel lines.

Re:EUV source (3, Interesting)

joe_frisch (1366229) | about 9 months ago | (#44486901)

One could imagine FEL based sources for EUV. At SLAC / LCLS we run reliably at even shorter wavelengths, 4nm is our long wavelength limit, 0.12 at the short end. Average power is low now, but there is a clear path to at least kilowatt average powers (see the LBNL NGLS) and 10s of KW are pretty straightforward.

The sources are very expensive - $100M-$1B, so they might be out of reach for even a large fab.

There has been quite a bit of work on EUV / Xray optics, but again the parts are really expensive (an X-ray mirror runs $1M. )

It probably ends up as an economic issue (not surprising), it it worth building sources like this.

Free electron lasers as EUV source (1)

hankwang (413283) | about 9 months ago | (#44487511)

Average power is low now, but there is a clear path to at least kilowatt average powers (see the LBNL NGLS) and 10s of KW are pretty straightforward.

A clear path to kilowatt powers, that's sounds a bit like the stories about the EUV sources years ago. Reality turned out to be quite a bit harder...

There has been quite a bit of work on EUV / Xray optics, but again the parts are really expensive (an X-ray mirror runs $1M. )

Are those normal incidence or grazing incidence mirrors? For proper imaging, you need to image one area onto another area with low aberrations, not one focal point onto another focal point. This is far easier to do with mirrors designed for normal incidence than for grazing incidence. Even then, it turns out that you need about 10 reflections from the EUV source to the silicon wafers; it's because with every reflection you lose about 1/3 of the power that we would like to have a kilowatt to start with. If the reflection losses are a bit larger due to a larger number of mirrors or a higher per-mirror loss, then you need to start with even more power.

Re:Free electron lasers as EUV source (1)

joe_frisch (1366229) | about 9 months ago | (#44489107)

I can't comment on other sources. FELs based on superconducting accelerators do scale well to fairly high average powers - though at a very high cost. Our machine runs at a few mJ/pulse but is limited to the 120Hz rate of the room temperature accelerator. Superconducting machines run well at MHz rates (some like CEBAF have been doing this for years). There are some longer wavelength FELs (IR and near UV) with high average powers, its just more money to push them to the EUV. (maybe too much money).

Most of the mirrors I know about are grazing incidence, at 10nm it may be possible to do normal incidence multi-layer mirrors, but I'm not very familiar with that wavelength range. Its certainly tricky. There may be other tricks as well - we do high resolution (few angstrom) imaging by looking at scattered light - essentially working with the fourier transform. The reverse should be possible where you make a fourier mask of the image you want to project - would be a nice experiment actually. I agree though that the imaging system is the really difficult part.

Progress (4, Interesting)

Mandrel (765308) | about 9 months ago | (#44483183)

A 10nm feature size is 1000 times smaller [wikipedia.org] than the first 10um processes of the early 1970s. That is, one million transistors will soon fit into the space that one used to.

Re:Progress (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483293)

A 10nm feature size is 1000 times smaller [wikipedia.org] than the first 10um processes of the early 1970s. That is, one million transistors will soon fit into the space that one used to.

Not true, its more than that. The linear dimensions are 1000x smaller, so the area is 1000*1000 times smaller, thus the area difference is a factor of 1 million.

That said, the ratio between the minimum feature size and the dimensions of the transistors apparently has changed as well, so I don't think we will quite get the full million. Also, we are only at ~20nm now, 10nm is a long way out.

Re:Progress (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | about 9 months ago | (#44484199)

sigh...

Not true, its more than that. The linear dimensions are 1000x smaller, so the area is 1000*1000 times smaller, thus the area difference is a factor of 1 million.

10nm is a measure of length, not area.. so his statement about 1000 is correct (the opposite of "not true")

Then, he performs the area calculation and specifically mentions that 1 million transistors fitting in the same area (you even quoted it.)

I wish you were worthless, instead of worth less than worthless.

Re:Progress (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44484333)

Wow.. parent literally pointed out that the conclusion is that a million transistors fits within the same area if the feature size is 1/1000 of the original size.
You aren't exactly the Dilbert Parrot Man [dilbert.com] but you are uncomfortably close.

Re:Progress (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44487571)

You're a true fuck-head.

Here's a more informative link (5, Informative)

pongo000 (97357) | about 9 months ago | (#44483221)

Actually explains the process in detail:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/design/plans-for-nextgen-chips-imperiled [ieee.org]

BTW, it's considered good practice in anything related to scientific research to define acronyms the first time they are used. In this case, EUV == extreme ultraviolet

Re:Here's a more informative link (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483247)

BTW, it's considered good practice in anything related to scientific research to define acronyms the first time they are used.

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Re:Here's a more informative link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483281)

BTW (by the way)...

Re:Here's a more informative link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44483475)

BTW (by the way) (by the way)...

ASML (2)

MancunianMaskMan (701642) | about 9 months ago | (#44484027)

ASML aren't a "light source maker", they don't "make" anything actually. They research and develop technologies, integrate stuff from different suppliers, and have contractors bolt it together. And then they sell it and train people to use it.

And they're good at it so pretty much every chip maker buys their kit.

Re:ASML (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44484389)

Oh come on, that's a bit of an understatement. Most of the stuff they get "from different suppliers" has been designed by them and is manufactured according to strict prescriptions. It's not like they simply fill in some forms on web shops at "highspeedsiliconwaferstages.com", "uvlightsources-shop.com", and "allyourlenses.co.cn" and have some guy in a garage throw the stuff together in a box.

Re:ASML (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#44484417)

ASML aquired Cymer, the EUV light source maker. See her in the last section: Cymer Acquisition [bloomberg.com]

I agree that ASML "only" assembles machine parts build by others.

Re:ASML (4, Interesting)

hankwang (413283) | about 9 months ago | (#44484433)

ASML aren't a "light source maker", they don't "make" anything actually.

With the acquisition of Cymer, ASML is actually a light source maker.

integrate stuff from different suppliers, and have contractors bolt it together.

It is true that ASML outsources the manufacturing of most components as far as it involves materials processing (machining, coating, soldering) and off-the-shelf components (pumps, filters, sensors, computers, bolts, cables, etc.). But the actual assembly and tuning of these thousands of components is done by ASML's own employees in ASML's own cleanrooms. As I am typing this, this is happening about 15 meters below my office.

Given the wide variety in technologies used in these scanners, and given how fast the technology changes, it wouldn't make much sense to do all the materials processing in-house. For me as a design engineer it is quite cool that I generally only need to worry whether the design of a component is manufacturable by some supplier in the world, rather than that I have to keep in mind what our own tools, which have to be used because they are not yet written off. That would slow down development tremendously -- it is already hard enough to keep up with Moore's law without such a restriction.

(The above are my own views/opinions yadda yadda)

Alternative EUV Technology: Zplasma Stable DPP (1)

Henry Berg (3011877) | about 8 months ago | (#44502593)

There is an alternative technology for the production of EUV light at lithography power levels. Zplasma Stable DPP uses Sheared Flow Stabilization to stabilize the EUV-emitting plasma. Stable plasma results in light pulses that are 10-100 times longer than than those produced by the unstable plasmas of other sources. The source uses no tin and has a controlled end to each pulse that does not produce the high-energy debris and molten tin sputtering that have been obstacles for other light sources. We have prototyped and demonstrated the physics of Stable DPP in the lab. Zplasma is seeking funding and development partners to scale our prototype up to the 200 watt light source the industry needs. http://zplasma.com [zplasma.com].
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