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Former NSA Chief Warns Hackers Will Attack US If Snowden Is Captured

Unknown Lamer posted about a year ago | from the nihilistic-anarcho-scum-coming-to-a-store-near-you dept.

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Okian Warrior writes "The Guardian is reporting Michael Hayden speculating that hackers and transparency groups are likely to respond with cyber-terror attacks if the United States government apprehends whistleblower Edward Snowden. Hayden called the potential attackers 'Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"

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Old Married people? (5, Funny)

ka9dgx (72702) | about a year ago | (#44496449)

What do old married persons (people who haven't talked to the opposite sex in years), have to do with this?

Re:Old Married people? (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about a year ago | (#44496491)

They don't fit the profile of cyber attackers. Too much to lose.

grain of truth? (4, Insightful)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about a year ago | (#44496853)

OK, the guy's being a DB, but you have to admit there's a grain of truth:
nihilists: that could be one way to describe groups like lulzsec, who aren't into transparency as a cause but would rather watch the world burn for the lulz.
anarchists: I don't see this one per se, but the govt described bradley manning as an anarchist so that's why they think that.
activists: for sure, groups like anonymous are activists. manning too. snowden too. they are motivated by effecting change in the system.
Lulzsec: I'm not sure to what degree Lulzsec would participate themselves based on the FBI busts, but I'm sure there would be some offshoot phoenix "rise from the ashes" that would throw their hats in the ring.
anonymous: i think this one is a given.
neckbeards: kind of a stereotype, not suprised he through that out.

tldr: I think he's more right than wrong, both to expect attempts at reprisals and in describing many of the groups that will attempt it. I would add foreign nations / hostile groups (not activists, but interested in harming USA interests). It's the perfect time to attack under the guise of these other groups.

Re:Old Married people? (5, Funny)

Galaga88 (148206) | about a year ago | (#44496711)

Wife: My husband hasn't spoken to me in years.
Husband: I know you don't like me to interrupt you.

Re:Old Married people? (5, Funny)

Notabadguy (961343) | about a year ago | (#44496745)

The joke is on Mr. Hayden. Calling upstairs for your mom to bring you dinner totally counts as talking to members of the opposite sex.

Re:Old Married people? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496801)

They don't. Michael Hayden is just a fucking prick. Not that that is any surprise to anyone who has every worked with the piece of shit.

Nihilists? (5, Funny)

Galaga88 (148206) | about a year ago | (#44496453)

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

Re:Nihilists? (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year ago | (#44496497)

at least they don't work on Shabbas.

(and, shut the fuck up, donnie)

Re:Nihilists? (2)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about a year ago | (#44496867)

at least they don't work on Shabbas.

(and, shut the fuck up, donnie)

beating a dead horse, they don't bowl on shabbas. this isn't nam! there are rules!

Re:Nihilists? (4, Funny)

CodeHog (666724) | about a year ago | (#44496543)

Dude, the rug ties the room together.

Re: Nihilists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496597)

Vee vant zee money, Lebowski!

Re: Nihilists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496713)

Shomer Shabbos!....shomer fuckin' shabbos.....

Re:Nihilists? (1)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#44496727)

Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!

He's too kind... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496461)

Twentysomethings who don't recognize the opposite sex.

Re:He's too kind... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496637)

Twentysomethings who don't recognize the opposite sex.

/.ers

Re:He's too kind... (1, Redundant)

Noughmad (1044096) | about a year ago | (#44496809)

Hey! I'm twentysomething, and I definitely recognize when people on the opposite side of the hallway have sex, you insensitive clod!

Meanwhile (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496467)

This claim was made by a fossilised old fart who hasn't managed to get a rise out of his dick for thirty years and has decided to take it out on everyone else who isn't having a problem satisfying themselves and their partners sexually.

If Hayden hadn't been spending the last 20 years trying to fuck over the entire country en-masse, he'd still be able to get a hard-on for normal sexual thoughts about individual people.

Re:Meanwhile (4, Funny)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about a year ago | (#44496573)

Can we get a +1 BURN?

Out of touch with reality (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496477)

In other news: crotchety old man demands kids get off his damn lawn.

Re:Out of touch with reality (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year ago | (#44496581)

"old man shouts at (network) cloud"

#include "oldmansimpson.png"

no news here. just the keep-alive of "please be afraid, citizen!".

Hours of ad hominem fun. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496481)

Mod Hayden -1 Troll.

Re:Hours of ad hominem fun. (5, Insightful)

niftydude (1745144) | about a year ago | (#44496731)

The NSA narrative has always been the same: give us more money so that we can protect you against a large unspecified threat.

As a former NSA chief this is ingrained behavior for him, and so Hayden will keep spouting that line long after he's past the point of senility.

Re:Hours of ad hominem fun. (1)

tibit (1762298) | about a year ago | (#44496881)

Can't but agree. You'd have thought that intelligence work would require one to at least be aware of how to form a rational argument. This includes one's awareness of fallacies common in rhetorics... Well, maybe he thought an explicit use of a fallacy will somehow bolster his argument with the dumb populace. Who knows, maybe it even worked.

In other words, (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496483)

people who give a greater damn about the Constitution than the current government.

Re:In other words, (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496531)

Smug nerds who give a greater damn about the fashionable parts of the Constitution, such as the second amendment, and look at you like you are crazy when you mention the others

FTFY

Re:In other words, (4, Insightful)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year ago | (#44496671)

Smug nerds who give a greater damn about the fashionable parts of the Constitution, such as the second amendment, and look at you like you are crazy when you mention the others

FTFY

This just in: different people tend to care more about the stuff that they feel is important. Film at eleven.

Re:In other words, (1)

operagost (62405) | about a year ago | (#44496675)

Nihilists and anarchists? As much as I like to bash these politicians... not likely.

Re:In other words, (1)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#44496749)

It sure was nice back when we had a constitution.

Slashdot (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496485)

'Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'

Well, at least that excludes Slashdot. Slashdot is filled with thirtysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in fifteen or sixteen years.

Re:Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496709)

I'll have you know I'll be forty in a few months, you insensitive clod.

Re:Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496811)

I'm 50 and I talked to my wife this morning..

Re:Slashdot (1)

Noughmad (1044096) | about a year ago | (#44496837)

He also forgot Methodists.

In advance of possible cyber attacks, (5, Funny)

Howitzer86 (964585) | about a year ago | (#44496487)

US citizens are advised to flee the planet.

Re:In advance of possible cyber attacks, (5, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#44496599)

US citizens are advised to flee the planet.

In other news, US citizens will be punished either by the government for the actions of other citizens, or by other countries' citizens for the actions of the government. However, in no way and at no time, should this reflect that the government is in any way wrong. Meanwhile, police everywhere would like to remind women that if they were raped, it must be because of how they were dressed. "Lady Liberty was asking for it! She was showing leg."

-_- My point is that if the government is concerned that its actions may be inviting wide-spread reprisals, they ought to be asking whether or not those actions have public support. Afterall, isn't this supposed to be a democracy? When most of your citizens are saying "Dude, you fucked up," it might be time to, I don't know... hold a meeting at least?

Re:In advance of possible cyber attacks, (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44496783)

When most of your citizens are saying "Dude, you fucked up," it might be time to, I don't know... hold a meeting at least?

They do. It's called congress. They talk about what they're going to do about those goddamned uppity plebes.

Activists (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496493)

So, 'activists' is a negative word now too?

Re:Activists (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about a year ago | (#44496529)

Hasn't it always been?

Not when the Americans were the activists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496657)

You know, back before independence.

Even today, *those* activists are practically deified.

Re:Not when the Americans were the activists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496855)

One day's Traitors are next day's heros. Do we really have to explain you that ?

In 2050, President AlQahiri of the United Dshidahirra of America will be granted the Snowden Peace Prize shortly before he starts an undeclared war on the Argentinians who are alleged to harbour some catholic terrorists who flew a Cessna into the main mosque of Chicago, the 2050 center of American, Islamic and Worldwide finance.

Did anyone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496499)

Even look at that guy's face in TFA?

Re:Did anyone... (0)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#44496839)

Let's see how you look at 68 years of age... assuming you manage to live that long!

Kettle, pot (5, Insightful)

qbast (1265706) | about a year ago | (#44496501)

That's from guy who instead of talking to person of opposite sex would tap her phone, read her journal and search her underwear drawer?

In other words, (5, Funny)

orlanz (882574) | about a year ago | (#44496503)

In this day and age, the mighty United States of America has been reduced to feeling "terror" from "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

Wasn't that a standup joke 20 years ago?

Re:In other words, (1)

Kurast (1662819) | about a year ago | (#44496607)

In this day and age, the mighty United States of America has been reduced to feeling "terror" from "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

Wasn't that a standup joke 20 years ago?

So, it has come to this.

Re:In other words, (2)

Mitreya (579078) | about a year ago | (#44496631)

the mighty United States of America has been reduced to feeling "terror" from "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

At least twentysomethings are a lot scarier than (possible) 3oz+ bottles. Just observed two very serious TSA agents gather around a non-standard bottle with foreign lettering and discussing in detail whether it does or does not exceed the 3oz allowance. They may have been looking for a translator, as I left security.

Re:In other words, (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#44496677)

twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years

Sounds like a fitting description of 72-virgins-horny Arab terrorists, doesn't it?

Re:In other words, (1)

operagost (62405) | about a year ago | (#44496691)

It was probably a joke on Letterman 20 years ago-- and last week.

When is that schmuck going to retire, anyway?

Re:In other words, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496843)

"I'm just trying to illustrate that you've got a group of people out there who make demands, whose demands may not be satisfiable, may not be rational, from other points of view, may not be the kinds of things that government can accommodate," Hayden said.

I think we heard that line aplenty before some brave souls pointed out that in fact, yes, the government CAN accommodate dark skinned people a little better than indentured slaves.

Hayden was just pretending to have a brain fart moment, but he was deliberately provocative, admitted as such, and we all fall for it and show our true "outraged" colours to make it easier for the TLAs to hunt us down. Well down, sir, fine job.

Re:In other words, (1)

nucrash (549705) | about a year ago | (#44496869)

Last I heard, the Dark Tangent had a wife. In fact, I met her just this weekend, in the flesh even. I am pretty sure there were a lot of presenters at Defcon who had wives and/or children younger than the age of five. Oh, but here's the best part. There were children at Defcon. They were hacking. They were proficient as well. I didn't win the Edward Snowden look-a-like competition though. :/

Twentysomethings who haven't... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496513)

This country is terribly plagued with such a reprehrensible menace. The only solution is to mandate a free girlfriend to every twentysomething, to avoid their fall into tyranny and hackery. It will be a burden for us all, but I think we on Slashdot can manage.

Re:Twentysomethings who haven't... (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about a year ago | (#44496547)

Didn't work for Snowden. He had a girlfriend. But then again he didn't do any cyber attacks.

As opposed to what Hayden and his ilk are (5, Insightful)

tekrat (242117) | about a year ago | (#44496515)

Which are fascist, traitorous, nationalistic power-fetishists who only view the opposite sex as tools or sex toys. Power in D.C. attracts a lot of arm-candy and those people get used to that very quickly.

Re:As opposed to what Hayden and his ilk are (1)

ftldelay (856655) | about a year ago | (#44496845)

+1 I couldn't have said it any better if I wanted to!

Same Brush Syndrome (5, Insightful)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about a year ago | (#44496517)

I like how he lumps "activists" in together with Lulzsec and Anonymous.

Within a couple of years, the US media will be using "activist" as a synonym for "terrorist".

Sadly, most Americans will go right along with this.

Re:Same Brush Syndrome (5, Informative)

Kurast (1662819) | about a year ago | (#44496617)

I like how he lumps "activists" in together with Lulzsec and Anonymous.

Within a couple of years, the US media will be using "activist" as a synonym for "terrorist".

Sadly, most Americans will go right along with this.

Fox News does that already.

Re:Same Brush Syndrome (0)

operagost (62405) | about a year ago | (#44496741)

No, they don't. But the US government likes to call the Tea Party terrorist... and they're activists, too.

Re:Same Brush Syndrome (1)

nucrash (549705) | about a year ago | (#44496887)

I am not seeing your point.

Re:Same Brush Syndrome (3, Interesting)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about a year ago | (#44496825)

> Within a couple of years, the US media will be using "activist" as a synonym for "terrorist".

I am hoping and praying that it gets revealed that the NSA was feeding the FBI information as part of the nationwide crackdown on Occupy protesters. [theguardian.com] It's bad enough the FBI was involved but if the NSA can be proven to have directly fucked with a political movement like that, then the all pretense of defending against terrorism will be gone.

Re:Same Brush Syndrome (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#44496861)

You honestly didn't see that coming? We lost the hacker vs cracker argument, and we'll soon lose the activist vs terrorist one too.

Oh Noes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496521)

http://xkcd.com/932/

Fearmongering (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496525)

"So if they can't create great harm to dot-mil, who are they going after? Who for them are the World Trade Centers? The World Trade Centers, as they were for al-Qaida."

The only people who think like that are Al-Qaida and their American [theinsider.org] trainers. Oh wait, that's who was making the comment.

Chilling effect (4, Insightful)

SirGarlon (845873) | about a year ago | (#44496549)

A government official advising against a course of action because he fears a terrorist response is proof that terrorism works.

Wait what?!? (4, Insightful)

Pikoro (844299) | about a year ago | (#44496553)

When did hacking turn into "Cyber-terrorism"? Has the world gone stupid?

Re:Wait what?!? (2)

Bender Unit 22 (216955) | about a year ago | (#44496619)

No, the world has always been stupid.
It is just became more obvious after internet v2. or whatever they called it.

Re:Wait what?!? (5, Insightful)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#44496627)

Terrorism as defined by the government is not what terrifies the people, but what terrifies people with cushy jobs in the government. Right now, they're terrified that people will find out what they're doing and call them out for it.

Re:Wait what?!? (2)

Burntgerbil (3011605) | about a year ago | (#44496695)

At this point, I'm becoming more scared of the misguided, (presumably) well-meaning and ill-educated elected officials than I am of any tur-rur-rists. When does the Patriot Act start to apply to them ?

Re:Wait what?!? (1)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#44496767)

Becoming? I've been more scared of well-meaning elected officials for a long time.

"If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life." - Henry David Thoreau

Re:Wait what?!? (2)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#44496871)

The world has always been stupid. It's just gotten worse recently.

who? (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year ago | (#44496557)

quote:

"I'm just trying to illustrate that you've got a group of people out there who make demands, whose demands may not be satisfiable, may not be rational, from other points of view..."

not sure if this refers to our rogue government (ie, the criminals in charge of the NSA and those who continue to fund it) or the ones we are being programmed to 'be afraid of'. ...gotta go: I'm almost late for my two minute's hate.

Fighting words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496561)

He's trying to provoke an attack, isn't he?

Re:Fighting words (2)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year ago | (#44496629)

He's trying to provoke an attack, isn't he?

It would be a win-win. That is to say a "win" for whoever does the attacking, and a "win" for the national security/defense/spying establishment. Maybe not as profitable for everyone as 9/11, but still not bad for a day's work.

Truth (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496571)

It sounds like an insult. But when you're right, you're right! Michael Hayden is 100% correct on everything he said.

because of the put-down, I imagine... (1)

doug141 (863552) | about a year ago | (#44496653)

they are going to start hacking michael hayden.

We're the new bogeyman... (1)

hazeii (5702) | about a year ago | (#44496655)

And next time some random .gov or .mil website gets hacked, it'll be taken as "vindication" and proof of the correctness of his point of view.

The US government closing all its Embassies seems less about an actual threat than about keeping the NSA jackboot on top of us all.

Especially those of us who are kicking up a fuss.

Michael Hayden, like internet trolls everywhere... (3, Insightful)

Notabadguy (961343) | about a year ago | (#44496661)

How many times have you seen someone respond to IRC, forum post, thread, etc with something along the following lines:

"The person disagreeing with me is 15 year old acne-crusted, coke-glasses-wearing, living in his mother's basement loser with no social life and blah blah blah....."

Reading Michael Hayden feels like reading an internet troll. I don't know if he's doing it because he's dumb troll, or because he used to be one of those 15 year old acne crusted, coke-glasses-wearing, living in his mother's basement loser with no social life before getting into the NSA so he could change venue to live in a government basement.

The first rule of Fight Club is ... (1)

Aguazul2 (2591049) | about a year ago | (#44496663)

... that you don't talk about Fight Club. Then they made it into a movie. It is the American way.

Never forget (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496669)

Since 9/11 America was not the same. Terrorist is by definition him who inflicts terror. Therefore 9/11 was successful even if the causalities would be 0. America is terrorized to the point that "Land of Freedom" title should be stripped away. Of course the government takes this tragedy as a campaign to further strip other rights of the American people.

Oh, totally. (1)

MobSwatter (2884921) | about a year ago | (#44496681)

Yes, they'd be all over us with harsh language and pointing at us, and the laughter, this would just be devastating.

Hacking yes, terrorism no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496685)

He's right about the hacking but not about the terrorism. Even more of a reason why we should give Snowden a full pardon on the condition he return to USA, maybe add a clause that he be banned from any government work for the next 60 years. Embarrassing those in power should not be a crime in it self.

Voice Of The Cheka Speaks Out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496689)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka

And don't tell me this guy is different. His pals stockpile hundreds of thousands of exploits and then he whines about "evil hackers" with their three exploits. Which are probably not used at all.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/security/in-his-own-words-confessions-of-cyber-warrior-222266

What he wants to do is to stifle any dissent. Like any professional Chekist, he hates to be out of control.

and what is his point (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496697)

you are warned by humans of earth to fucking leave him be....

its easy move on ...touch him and we will...what ya gonna do big girlie boys now , rant rave and call us terrorists when the guy only told his own peopel the govt is illegally spying on them....

or doing it legally in a way that actually should be illegal....
ugh

the nsa needs to learn the phrase shut the fuck up

haha
or
https://www.uha1.com/14-mug.jpg --- will be there site next

hurr durr (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496703)

Calling nihilist and anarchist hackers that are capable of performing successful cyber terrorist attacks against the US and the NSA "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years." is more agitating than some stuff in the news about snowden. I think the former head of the NSA is trying to induce terrorist attacks against the USA. He should be charged as a terrorist. He also looks like he hasn't talked to the opposite sex in 5 or 60 years. That's a true sign of terrorism right there.

TLDR: FUCK YOU.

Sound advice from the Breakfast Club (1)

sunking2 (521698) | about a year ago | (#44496733)

Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.

It's all fun and games until they get annoyed enough to start having people disappear. Then it's no longer a fun internet game. And the big money players won't tolerate loss of finances for long.

No need for getting personal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496737)

Dear Mr. Hayden,

I understand your position that these cyber attacks would be illegitimate. But there is no need to disparage people for not having talked to the opposite sex for years. Making fun on others isn't fair. But may be fairness isn't a word you have in your mind...

Sincerely

Such shame (2)

lapm (750202) | about a year ago | (#44496743)

Lol, maybe government should not be doing things they are shamed afterwords. Like spying its own citizens that have done nothing wrong. All this under fear of terrorist. I wonder how long until they realize terrorist won the war. They changed how certain superpower lives its lives. So much for land of the free... I all pro information freedom. And i don't fit any of those categories.. 'Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.' Im 38 yeras old, i quess thats twentysomething.... Im married and talk my wife every day...

Scare tactics for tax dollars (2)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about a year ago | (#44496747)

This whole scare tactic on Hayden's part, especially since it was a speech at the "Bipartisan Policy Center" sounds like a grab for political support and funding to further broaden what the NSA, FBI, DEA and every other shitty acronym involved is already doing. People like Hayden are the types who create places like Gitmo, fund operations like Haliburton, and see nothing wrong with getting what they want by any means necessary. No wonder he's so scared.

calling people gay (4, Funny)

6 (22657) | about a year ago | (#44496751)

"who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"
Really? Is calling people it doesn't like gay really the governments new tactic?

Re:calling people gay (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#44496821)

"who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"
Really? Is calling people it doesn't like gay really the governments new tactic?

Actually, I read it as calling them introverts. Otaku, if you like, if we had a word for that here. Dorks, I guess, though whale dicks are huge and the hypothetical people we're discussing are social lames, not gigantic cocks. Anyway, calling people it doesn't like gay is the government's old tactic. It doesn't work any more because statistically nobody gives a shit so long as you don't poke your genitals into their face without an invitation.

Wow (1)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year ago | (#44496753)

I'm a bit of a hawk and anti-libertarian myself, and have little time for narcissists like Snowdown and the Wikileaks crowd.

THAT SAID --- it definitely appears that here, General Hayden is full-blown delusional. These remarks are of somebody whose tenuous grip on reality is seriously worrying for a man of his position.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496851)

Actually, Hayden knows exactly what he's [afr.com] talking [washingtontimes.com] about [fas.org] .

And by all means, no one [freebeacon.com] is thinking about ways to defeat the US [nytimes.com] .

call them Saints (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496769)

Because clearly, that's what They really are.

Stick, Meet Hornet Nest (3, Insightful)

denmarkw00t (892627) | about a year ago | (#44496785)

twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years

It's great to see people putting down others, I'm sure statements like that won't at all cause people who otherwise probably wouldn't have wanted to be involved in any such thing to change their minds. It's like saying "we have information suggesting an attack is imminent on US interests abroad - keep an eye out for young men who have unsightly beards, sand in their butt cracks, and a strange fascination with goats" and not expecting more people to be violent towards you than before you made the statement.

What a dumbass (1)

Stumbles (602007) | about a year ago | (#44496791)

We are and have been attacked by "hackers". Its a very lame attempt at scare mongering.

They won't attack the US (5, Insightful)

godless dave (844089) | about a year ago | (#44496799)

They won't attack the US, they'll attack the US government. Completely different. These guys remind me of mafiosi who try to claim prosecutors going after the Mafia are going after all Italian-Americans.

Translation (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year ago | (#44496807)

IF we broke international law, kidnap/kill a citizen of another country in that other country, someone that denounced that us are breaking the human rights of basically every human of the planet, and steal their intellectual property, then could be consequences. The real, big problem, is the first move, not the consequences. Whats next? Killers that complain that judges will try to put them in jail, as if everything is judges fault?

Self Loathing Much? (4, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | about a year ago | (#44496813)

"twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"

Really? "Hah hah, little nerd, you don't get any pussy!" The former NSA chief is using sophomoric name-calling to make himself feel better about having become one of the most crafty and subversive enemies our nation has ever faced. Just like high school, when the jocks would do the same to feel better about their abusive relationships with their fathers.

WAT (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496827)

twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.

Them's fighting words. _Every morning_ I talk to the girl who makes my coffee...

Slashdot readers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44496833)

So he called them Slashdot readers/members.

Activist cyber attacks now cyber "terror" attacks (1)

milkasing (857326) | about a year ago | (#44496835)

Of the types of Cyber attacks motives -- Activist led, state sponsored espionage and ones driven by criminal activity, activist is a tiny fraction compared to the other two.
http://www.verizonenterprise.com/resources/reports/es_data-breach-investigations-report-2013_en_xg.pdf [verizonenterprise.com]
Also of the three types, activist attacks are the least sophisticated while state espionage attacks are the most sophisticated. Its funny how activist attacks are considered as "terror" attacks.
Yes there will be attacks because of Snowden, but they will be insignificant compared to the daily business of government led attacks

This guy needs help (1)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year ago | (#44496847)

Hayden sounds like he could use some Viagra and a hooker (or whatever he's into).

Might take the edge off, and he could come up with a reasoned argument instead of just using the Wikipedia entry on logical fallacies as a checklist.

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