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Linus Torvalds Celebrates 20 Years of Windows 3.11 With Linux 3.11-rc5 Launch

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the check-it-out dept.

Linux 113

hypnosec writes "Linus Torvalds released Linux 3.11-rc5 yesterday wishing that it would have been a lovely coincidence if he were able to release final Linux 3.11 as on the exact same day 20 years ago Microsoft released Windows 3.11. 'Sadly, the numerology doesn't quite work out, and while releasing the final 3.11 today would be a lovely coincidence (Windows 3.11 was released twenty years ago today), it is not to be,' notes Torvalds in the release announcement."

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mad libs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544089)

Linus Torvalds is a _____________.

Re:mad libs (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544571)

(an) ass.

Re:mad libs (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544599)

(an) arrogant jerk.

Re:mad libs (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544675)

genius

Re:mad libs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544683)

software engineer

Re:mad libs (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544711)

one dimensional, bread obsessed electrical appliance.

Re:mad libs (3, Funny)

rhyder128k (1051042) | about a year ago | (#44545475)

The Bolivian Navy on manoeuvres in the South Pacific.

Re:mad libs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544777)

Japanese brand of joystick

Re: mad libs (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544869)

penile visionary.

Re:mad libs (2)

Barefoot Monkey (1657313) | about a year ago | (#44544791)

git

Come on, he said so himself ;)

Re: mad libs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544837)

bizzaro gates

Re:mad libs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544965)

jackass.

Re:mad libs (2)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year ago | (#44545515)

purple

Re:mad libs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44545635)

Windows has been quickly going downhill after version 3.11.

Re:mad libs (2)

Teresita (982888) | about a year ago | (#44548367)

Windows has been quickly going downhill after version 3.11.

I run Win3.11 as a hobby on one of my boxes. There ain't no more BBS's out there, except I can get out to Seattle Community Network and King County Libraries with Terminal, at 19,200 baud, woo. I sure as hell ain't going to get an AOL or Netzero dial up account for a hobby. There's a lot of great Windows 3.1 CD-ROMs I get at thrift shops for no more than three dollars. Vetusware has everything. Excel 4.0 for my family budget. Word Perfect for my Great American Novel. There's nothing wrong with running old school.

Re:mad libs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44548165)

twat waffle

Re:mad libs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44549785)

no.. sarah sharp is the twat waffle.

This was a triumph! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544113)

I'm making a note here: huge success!

Welcome to 20 years ago. Can't wait till you guys get workgroup support!

Re:This was a triumph! (1)

Entropius (188861) | about a year ago | (#44545031)

Why would my computer want to talk to another computer? Gee, that's silly.

Re:This was a triumph! (1)

rvw (755107) | about a year ago | (#44545177)

Why would my computer want to talk to another computer? Gee, that's silly.

Talking would be crazy, but lending some extended memory would be nice, like an extra megabyte or so.

Re:This was a triumph! (1)

Entropius (188861) | about a year ago | (#44545751)

Meanwhile, I have some software that currently requires 9GB of memory -- I could pare it down to 7GB if I really wanted to.

Re:This was a triumph! (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#44546369)

What software?

Re:This was a triumph! (4, Informative)

Entropius (188861) | about a year ago | (#44546675)

Lattice gauge theory simulations, so there's actually an excuse for the bloat. It runs on a 24*24*24*48 grid, so you need buckets of memory to store everything; this isn't as bad as the more ambitious groups, who are up to 192^3*384 (I think). It's pretty obscene how much computing power goes into this field -- the computation I've just started will take two months on 100 GPU's (which is about 10^18-10^19 floating point operations), and it's a small one compared to some of the things people do. It's also very heavily memory bandwidth bound, so I don't think we could do ASIC's like the Bitcoin folks do.

Re:This was a triumph! (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about a year ago | (#44549707)

Sounds like the sort of thing that could be optimized for Itaniums

Re:This was a triumph! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44549807)

It runs on a 24*24*24*48 grid

Are the 24's for space and the 48 for time?

More of a party pooper (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544119)

I didn't really notice any party spirit in his mail. At least he didn't insult anyone.

Re:More of a party pooper (5, Funny)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#44544203)

At least he didn't insult anyone.

That is party spirit in Finland.

Re:More of a party pooper (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44544745)

exactly! and after the party we stab someone! HARD!

and now for some real afterparty feeling here is a clip from a finnish movie, about what dudes go do after a wedding party! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MozzPH2IEV0 [youtube.com] (just watch it full).

Best DOS window manager (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544121)

Ever made

Captcha: Birthday

I feel old (4, Insightful)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about a year ago | (#44544127)

I've got many memories of evenings spent with Windows 3.11, although I spent far more time in DOS back then. Later on, I spent a few few years with Linux (starting with Mandrake) as my primary desktop OS, and wound up with Mac OS X for the last few years.

I'll still raise a toast to over a decade of Debian or FreeBSD on the server side for anything I care about.

Re:I feel old (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544273)

I'm also a diehard UNIX server guy but the wonders of Azure and PowerShell have moved me towards Windows on that front too. :) Although that's mostly due to my job requirement these days...

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544533)

Your story sounds very similar to mine. Started with MS-DOS (truthfully, started with VIC-20 Basic), then various flavours of Windows before discovering Linux via Slackware, which I used primarily up until 2003 or so when I moved to Ubuntu and eventually also OS X for my desktop. I still maintain Linux on servers though.

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544669)

This is me too a tee, though I had a C-64. Then an XT running DOS, then drdos/netware 3.12 Win31/WFW311.

Then HPUX, then Irix (loved Irix), then WinNT/2K, then OpenBSD, then Debian, now OSX and Ubuntu and iOS.

I still miss Irix.

Re:I feel old (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about a year ago | (#44549723)

I miss NEXTSTEP - too bad a complete OpenSTEP/GNUSTEP DE has never emerged.

Re:I feel old (4, Informative)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#44544561)

For those feeling nostalgic, Windows 3.11 works in Doxbox quite nicely. Grab the microsoft entertainment pack and play some skifree.

Re:I feel old (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544641)

Ah, memories. I remember the day my brother and I were playing that game. He discovered that you could go faster using jumps properly. Well, he was playing and finally passed the Yeti and kept going. The Yeti disappeared off the top of the window and he kept going for at least another minute or two. He then stopped and said, "I think I outran him." Right after saying that, the Yeti comes charging down and eats him. After about 20 seconds of silence, he closes the window and mutters, "I hate that game."

Re:I feel old (2)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#44544709)

Seconded. Those Entertainment Packs have other fantastic games too: Chip's Challenge, Tetris, JezzBall, Taipei, etc. 2D graphics implemented using only Windows GDI, and damn solid shit.

Re:I feel old (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | about a year ago | (#44545375)

I played the hell out of Chip's Challenge. It was pretty much the only reason I saw to have Windows installed, at the time.

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44545395)

For those feeling nostalgic, Windows 3.11 works in Doxbox quite nicely. Grab the microsoft entertainment pack and play some skifree.

Last time I used dosbox was so long ago that back then their April fools joke was that it could run Windows - complete with a fake screenshot. Amazing progress by the project if it's routine to run it now.

Re:I feel old (2)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#44545745)

Indeed, Windows 3.11, being a DOS program is officially supported by DOSBOX now. Windows 95, being mostly a DOS program, is unofficially supported by DOSBOX.

Re:I feel old (1)

Teresita (982888) | about a year ago | (#44548503)

Indeed, Windows 3.11, being a DOS program is officially supported by DOSBOX now. Windows 95, being mostly a DOS program, is unofficially supported by DOSBOX.

Win 3.11 works great in DOSBOX under WIn 7, XP, Ubuntu, except it won't fly under Puppy Linux, because of mouse issues. Win 98 will install under VirtualBox but there's some display driver issues, it will default to 640 x 480 x 4. Better to run that raw, not virtualized. Win95 it's a case of "why bother?".

Re:I feel old (1)

M1FCJ (586251) | about a year ago | (#44549891)

Why bother? Because once in a while you got to remember why people went and used Linux and OS/2.
Even with Slackware and Ygdrassil, using Linux wasn't for everyone those days (but still much fun and a better user experience than Windows, still is, I was screaming at my Windows 7 laptop yesterday because I had to use something I didn't have time to see if it works under wine - how can people use such a pile of crap day to day, I cannot comprehend).

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44550283)

For Win98 you can install a 3rdparty display driver/OpenGL driver and you should get access to higher resolution. (I think it's SciTech GLDirect).

Re:I feel old (1)

Teresita (982888) | about a year ago | (#44548539)

Last time I used dosbox was so long ago that back then their April fools joke was that it could run Windows - complete with a fake screenshot. Amazing progress by the project if it's routine to run it now.

There was a /. article about some joker got Windows 3.1 to run on a phone under Android, sure as shit, I installed DOSBOX to an Android Mk802 PC-on-a-stick and got it to run Windows.

Re:I feel old (4, Interesting)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44545565)

Grab the microsoft entertainment pack and play some skifree.

No need!

http://ski.ihoc.net/ [ihoc.net]

It's been recompiled for modern Windows and it runs great under wine as well. It also works fine on the largest monitors you're likely to have.

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44547547)

How about a game of "Stars!"
You can't play that without 16-bit support.

Re:I feel old (2)

Tyler Durden (136036) | about a year ago | (#44545915)

For those feeling nostalgic, Windows 3.11 works in Doxbox quite nicely.

That or you could just bash your head against a brick wall until you begin to taste brain. Using Windows 3.1/3.11 felt about the same.

Re:I feel old (1)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about a year ago | (#44546119)

Great, thanks! If I eat something bad and need to throw up, I'll use that pack

Re:I feel old (2)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year ago | (#44544819)

I never did run Windows 3.11. I was on DOS 3.1 until 6.2 came out with doublespace. Windows 95 because Road Rash wouldn't run in DOS. W98 when none of the newer games would run on W95. XP when XCP vandalized my computer and I didn't have drivers (lost the CDs).

I got Mandrake then when XP started getting flaky. Turned out that Linux is just more fault-tolerant than Windows; Windows crashed every hour or so, Linux kept chugging until that power supply failed completely.

This notebook is running W7, because I'm lazy. The one that uses the TV as a monitor is kubuntu.

Re:I feel old (2)

isorox (205688) | about a year ago | (#44544909)

I've got many memories of evenings spent with Windows 3.11, although I spent far more time in DOS back then. Later on, I spent a few few years with Linux (starting with Mandrake) as my primary desktop OS, and wound up with Mac OS X for the last few years.

I'll still raise a toast to over a decade of Debian or FreeBSD on the server side for anything I care about.

Well I had dos 5 originally (with dosshell), then at some point windows 3.1 and 3.11 on a dos 6.22 background, then of course windows 95, installed on about 50 floppies.

Moved exclusively to debian in summer 2000, and them to ubuntu in 2006. I have a mac laptop too which I use for testing programs (that I write on the linux machine), and I have a small windows fanless machine for the same reason.

So my main machine has moved from a 286 mainly running railroad tycoon and qbasic, to a thinkpad running mainly firefox and vim. 13 years of linux, 8 years of dos/windows.

Re:I feel old (1)

msobkow (48369) | about a year ago | (#44545005)

You feel old?

I cut my teeth writing Z-80 machine code (not assembler) for the TRS-80 Model I Level I and POKEing it into memory, saving periodically to cassette tapes.

BIOS? DOS? What's that?

A *real* machine has a ROM interpreter and boots up instantly because of it. There is no need for a "BIOS" when you can just program to the hardware. :P

Re:I feel old (1)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about a year ago | (#44545251)

Ah, a fellow Z80 fan :). I think there's still two Sinclair ZX81s sitting in a box somewhere at my dad's house, likely with the old cassette deck as well. The one I used had a little black and white security monitor/TV hooked up to it for video, with a luxurious full size keyboard from an industrial floor spliced into it to provide relief from the horrendous membrane keyboard.

I've got to admit that I greatly preferred moving to an AT&T PC-6300 8086 box. It felt like a supercomputer by comparison, and was also the first machine I wrote any C on. Good times.

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44545527)

Even those of us who are slightly younger have memories of the Z80 since it was used in TI calculators. There were a number of different (hacked) shells for doing it - I recall Usguard (spelling?) and ZShell. You could write and compile your code on your PC and get it to your calculator by "restoring" a memory backup to it with the cable that most of us built on our own instead of buying it.

Re:I feel old (1)

akeeneye (1788292) | about a year ago | (#44547963)

Cassette tape?? You were lucky. We used to *dream* of having cassette tapes. We had it rough. After going to high school for 14 hours a day, day in day out, we had to POKE our machine code into memory, run it, and if the machine didn't crash, had to write another program to PEEK it out again while we took snapshots of the screen with a Polaroid camera.

Re:I feel old (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44549821)

My Commodore 64 sneers at your Trash 80 :p

Re:I feel old (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about a year ago | (#44549719)

I recall one occasion where I was helping a colleague help his sister over the phone work w/ Windows 3.11 w/ her mouse disabled. Like using the ALT and arrow keys to navigate and select the choices. Was an interesting exercise on a disabled system.

Linus still even come up with an original version? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544197)

What a loser. Just let your project stand on it's own instead of always trying to copy everyone else.

Re:Linus still even come up with an original versi (1)

tysonedwards (969693) | about a year ago | (#44544493)

Yep, damn his using of numbers to convey iterations of his code. Bastard!

Re:Linus still even come up with an original versi (3, Funny)

powerlinekid (442532) | about a year ago | (#44544659)

Hes no thinker or dreamer like that Steve Jobs was. Incrementing by the name of cats is a much more agile system.

Re:Linus still even come up with an original versi (2)

tysonedwards (969693) | about a year ago | (#44544821)

I see your Lion and raise you an Oneiric Ocelot!
Oh, you counter with a Mountain Lion... Tremble before my Precise Pangolin.

Re:Linus still even come up with an original versi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544877)

That's crazy talk. He had a snow leopard release almost 3 years before Jobs, plus it could slide!

Re:Linus still even come up with an original versi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544731)

If anything, we should be on version 72 by my count of major releases. Of course, 40 of those were in the 2.6 version. Of course, I may have miscounted due to the maintenance releases not in that count (but having to match them up based on date) and different people have different definitions of "major."

Inflammatory headline? (0)

bogaboga (793279) | about a year ago | (#44544205)

Does anyone else think the headline is link bait? I do, sadly!

And there's the difference (2, Interesting)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44544207)

If Linux was a proprietary OS like Windows, Marketing would have been so rabid for the idea that they would have successfully forced the premature release.

Re:And there's the difference (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544347)

What like Microsoft does with almost all their products? // Sorry I'm sure this is flame-bait, but I just intend it to be funny/ironic.

Re:And there's the difference (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44544955)

It's funny how a simple statement of fact can end up being considered flamebait.

Re:And there's the difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544421)

That sounds just like sex life! If you are with a girl and the marketing is too high, you might get an unfortunate premature release

What?? (4, Funny)

Dishwasha (125561) | about a year ago | (#44544363)

I thought Linux added on networking to the OS a LONG time ago.

Re:What?? (4, Funny)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about a year ago | (#44544685)

Hey man, don't rain on the parade. Better late than never, right? I mean heck, I call Linux finally getting networking a win. If you're gonna be such a Debbie Downer, you should just put a sock in it. I bet there's a stack of users rejoicing right now.

Re:What?? (1)

Chemisor (97276) | about a year ago | (#44548017)

It just isn't the same without the trumpet...

there are no coincidences (1, Informative)

frovingslosh (582462) | about a year ago | (#44544759)

"... while releasing the final 3.11 today would be a lovely coincidence ..."

Apparently Linus does not know the meaning of the word coincidence. If he had hit the target date deliberately and with advanced planning, it would not have been legitimately called a coincidence.

Re:there are no coincidences (4, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#44544849)

Actually, it shows he does understand the word, as he would never plan a release time based on something silly like that, he would always do it based on quality and readiness ... in which case, it would be a coincidence if it happened to be released today.

It didn't happen, and thats why its not a coincidence.

Re:there are no coincidences (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about a year ago | (#44545179)

Yes, sure, but if he REALLY wanted to pay homage to the spirit of windows 3.11 he should have released an early beta.

Re:there are no coincidences (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44546821)

You mean like a release candidate #5?

Windows 3 lives! (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year ago | (#44544865)

16 bit windows lives on. In the form of the windows installer.

Re:Windows 3 lives! (1)

tibit (1762298) | about a year ago | (#44545521)

Windows 95/98 installer, because IIRC NT-based ones use itself for the installer IIRC.

Re:Windows 3 lives! (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year ago | (#44545831)

Last I heard, that was not true. Your not running NT until the first reboot.

Re:Windows 3 lives! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44546093)

This hasn't been true since Vista - check out Windows PE.

Re:Windows 3 lives! (1)

EmperorArthur (1113223) | about a year ago | (#44545993)

Many older 32 bit programs come with a 16 bit installer. Back when 64 bit systems were the hot new thing this caused quite a few problems. You had to either find an extraction utility and do manual installation/registry edits, or you had to install it on a 32 bit machine with something to see what changed, and bundle those changes into a new installer.

Of course, Windows XP x64 didn't help there. It was just like XP, except almost no one provided drivers for it, and you had to disable code signing to install half of the drivers you could find. I had less driver issues with Linux on the same hardware. I wonder if anyone's still masochistic enough to be running that.

Re:Windows 3 lives! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44547159)

XP x64 wasn't XP, it was Server 2003 x64 Workstation Edition.
It had decent driver availability. You just had to look in the "Server 2003 x64" section.

Server 2003 installs by default, as... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44548297)

"Workstation/Pro" desktop class OS - you modularly ADD server modules to it, as is needed...

* I think you're attempting to state, perhaps, that XP 64 had all the PATCHES that later caught it up to Server 2003... right?

(Being nice here, vs. my usual "ornery" self!)

APK

P.S.=> It's the "why" of WHY Server 2003's codebase was used for later/subsequent MS OS Windows (VISTA/7/Server 2008/2012 & r2 etc./et al) - it was BETTER!

... apk

Re:Windows 3 lives! (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#44547203)

What bothers me is that VMware can run 64 bit and 16 bit code side by side, why the frak can't Windows! Yes, VMware does much more than just context switch and VMware does actual binary translation and processor emulation, but FFS, Microsoft could have easily added a 16 bit interpreter to make it work.

CU6M (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44544897)

here, but what is 4ro-homos3xual

Where can I get this? (0)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about a year ago | (#44544975)

Nevermind that arcane Linux crap, I want to try this Windows 311 thing. That retro 8 bit UI does look like a direct ripoff of IOS 7, but it sure is a welcome change from Metro. I hope Apple just sees it as a complement but they'll probably sue Microsoft over it.

Stable release (2)

gwstuff (2067112) | about a year ago | (#44545001)

It seems appropriate to celebrate the release of a Windows version with a pre-release edition of Linux.

It was 20 years ago today... (1)

Jharish (101858) | about a year ago | (#44545075)

Sgt Pepper brought his band to play.

Re:It was 20 years ago today... (1)

Yaztromo (655250) | about a year ago | (#44545913)

That's taught the band to play, doofus.

Yaz

Trumpet LinSock (1)

future assassin (639396) | about a year ago | (#44545401)

one one see it? I pulled it out of the dryer and one was missing. I need both to connect.

Linus Torvalds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44545495)

normally i don't write comments on posts about Linux.

interesting to see Linus Torvalds of all people paying tribute to Windows. nice to see not all Linux users are haters of Microsot and or/Windows. no, not trying to start an argument. just making an observation based on the comments that i've read on various Linux forums.

Re:Linus Torvalds (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44546553)

well.. Torvalds just lives in the real world, not some gnu fairyland and in the real home/work computer users world you can't ignore 3.11, someone would have made the jokes so might just as well be him.

Very fitting (1)

32771 (906153) | about a year ago | (#44545543)

Windows 3.?? made me switch to Linux. At some point Windows' reliance on the x86 real mode and other hacks had me look at the squandered possibilities of the M$ empire and also at possible ways out. While one of my buddies switched to OS/2 I switched to Linux.

Since then I had only in the rarest case any chance to actually program for Linux while on the job. Fortunately I mainly do embedded programming nowadays and have to work with VxWorks, VDK, or no operating system at all, which is great.

Microsoft Bob (1)

jfdavis668 (1414919) | about a year ago | (#44545891)

Now we need a Linux version of Bob.

Re:Microsoft Bob (2)

Gothmolly (148874) | about a year ago | (#44547423)

It's called Ubuntu.

Re:Microsoft Bob (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44547977)

Linux users bob all the time. Bob their heads up and down on a faggot's dick. Linux users love to suck cocks and get fucked in the ass and eat shit out of the assholes of other faggots. You hear me? THEY'RE FAGGOTS!!!!

Re:Microsoft Bob (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44548845)

Shout a little louder, a few more caps. I don’t think he heard you.

Service Packs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44546191)

I'm sure that kernel 3.11rc5 will require less service packs to fix bugs than did Win 3.11.

It was inevitable. Linus has forseen it. (3, Funny)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#44548639)

Linux 3.11... So, it's actually happening. I thought it was sarcastic, but now I see the prophesy was self fulfilling. [markmail.org]

In other words, we'd have an increasing level of instability with an odd release number, depending on how long-term the instability is.

- 2.6.<even>: even at all levels, aim for having had minimally intrusive patches leading up to it (timeframe: a week or two)

with the odd numbers going like:
- 2.6.<odd&gt: still a stable kernel, but accept bigger changes leading up to it (timeframe: a month or two).
- 2.<odd&gt.x: aim for big changes that may destabilize the kernel for several releases (timeframe: a year or two)
- <odd>.x.x: Linus went crazy, broke absolutely _everything_, and rewrote the kernel to be a microkernel using a special message-passing version of Visual Basic. (timeframe: "we expect that he will be released from the mental institution in a decade or two").

- Linus

3.11 is not a special number (1)

Askmum (1038780) | about a year ago | (#44549643)

I'm just waiting for Linux 3.14 and then to see the version numbering go wild in the subdigits.

And he signed off with (1)

ksemlerK (610016) | about a year ago | (#44550135)

Quit giving birth to my kittens!
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