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Amarok 2.8 "Return To the Origin" Released

timothy posted 1 year,17 days | from the heavily-stimulating dept.

KDE 99

jrepin writes "Music player Amarok 2.8 has been released and it brings a fancy audio analyzer visualization applet, smooth fade-out when pausing music, many UI improvements and visual tweaks including better support for alternate color themes, significantly enhanced MusicBrainz tagger, power management awareness with a pair of new configuration options, and performance optimizations and responsiveness tuning all over Amarok."

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Twice as good as 1.4 (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,17 days | (#44590461)

Irony: every major version after 1.4 has been worse than it

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (5, Insightful)

vilanye (1906708) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590479)

Agree I dealt with it until about a year ago when it started up and immediately grabbed about 600MB of RAM. Ditched it and been happy with Clementine ever since.

It is a shame that they ruined what was once the best music player you could get.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1, Insightful)

swaq (989895) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590503)

I ditched Amarok for Clementine a while back as well. It just works better. I don't see how adding a bunch of new features is a "Return to the Origin"...

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590547)

I don't see how adding a bunch of new features is a "Return to the Origin"...

It triggers a reset of The Matrix, which is just the next version of the same trap, none of it reflecting reality.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1)

aliquis (678370) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590835)

I don't see how adding a bunch of new features is a "Return to the Origin"...

Same old bloat.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1)

goose-incarnated (1145029) | 1 year,16 days | (#44596313)

If it's lack of bloat you want, then I have just the thing. I wrote up a little Tcl/Tk script (less than a screenful long) that simply displays all the songs it finds on my PC using locatedb and has a small search box that lets you narrow the search down. Takes less than a second to start, finds all my music without me having to add it to some special folder or import it, and uses almost no resources cause it plays the music with mpg123.

Feel free to email me for it - my website hoster is having trouble with their billing system and so, sadly, I can't provide a download.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1)

pwizard2 (920421) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590911)

That article gave me hope for a moment-- until I read TFA I thought they had reverted Amarok to its classic apprearance.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (2)

richlv (778496) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591255)

hah, exactly the same for me :)
was a user of amarok 1.4, tried to use amarok 2 for several months... moved to clementine eventually.
too bad clem isn't as good as amarok 1.4 was (for example, editing tags of a track does not update that in the collection db, and some other slight annoyances)

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (0)

QilessQi (2044624) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590927)

I did too, and never looked back.

I believe Clementine is a fork of Amarok 1.4, which was the last version I really liked. My experiences with 2.x were not good.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590731)

The most recent version prior to this one was fairly usable, but you are right its been a long road to stability. They keep adding stuff till its designed and releasing stuff till its debugged.

And any suggestions are met with surly put-downs and childish insults.
I almost hesitate to upgrade because I've been so often disappointed.

Try mpd (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,14 days | (#44606431)

I was lost for years after they abandoned amarok 1.4 (along with kde 3.x). Tried just about every linux music player you can name. Finally I gave mpd a shot, and discovered the perfect solution (mpd + client of your choice). Using a server process to handle my music seemed kind of odd at first, but ultimately it proved more flexible, more robust, and more lightweight than any standalone music player I've ever tried. You can choose between different clients -- remote or local, graphical or command line, android clients -- you can even use them simultaneously, because the server does the real work. You can script it as well.

My only regret is not trying mpd sooner. If I had known back then, I would have even dumped amarok 1.4 for it.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,17 days | (#44590483)

Just tried no play a CD with Amarok on Fedora - it just segfaulted. What a fancy audio visualization :(

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590661)

Yeah, I remember loving Amarok before the 2.X releases. Once 2.X hit it started being a buggy mess.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,17 days | (#44590861)

> Just tried no [,,, ] on Fedora - it just segfaulted.

Fixed that for you!

Fedora 19 is not anyone's friend, between the Gnome "thing" eating all the system resources to try and look like a useful interface, and get it completely wrong, and the insane leap into "complete toolkits" no part of which works well that is systemd, and replacing the "flow chart" style of installation scripting with a "spke and wheel" design which has no useful labels, responds only twenty seconds after you click things because it's so busy being "graphical" rather than actually doing anything, and the complete inability to turn off the network destabilizing squid form the depths that is NetworkManager.

Re:Twice as good as 1.4 (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591593)

I've never been able to get Amarok to work properly. I ditched that crap and use mpd with Airo for playlist stuff.

Bah (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,17 days | (#44590651)

I ditched Amarok over a year ago. Once they lost the option to make it a small interface similar to xmms I got rid of it. Even on a quad core with 8gb of ram the thing froze, couldn't handle large play lists and just sucked.

people still care about visualization? (4, Insightful)

kcmastrpc (2818817) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590707)

it's must be the fact that i'm over 30 and no longer take LSD.

Re:people still care about visualization? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591125)

I was wondering the same thing. I listen to music from on my smartphone quite often, but rarely on my PC. When I do play audio tracks on my PC, my player of choice these days is VLC. I really don't give a damn what it -looks- like. I'm -listening-.

Re:people still care about visualization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591157)

I guess I better get off your lawn

Re:people still care about visualization? (1)

aliquis (678370) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591183)

lol :)

i think a nice looking visualiser is a plus :)

I imagine one can do pretty insane things with todays hardware :)

As for "heavily-stimulating dept." it got me thinking of:

"The isolated, the decisive, victory stimulated
The non-simulated patterns of flight originated
Now I'm a carnivore on a tour of duty
My band of brothers in full metal jackets establish cruelty
Black magic conjurer, attack through the monitor
Destruction of assumption, one thing I can promise ya
Impact, crash, with cold shards of glass
Ritualistic annihilators -- murder your cast"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lgM-NyaPO0 [youtube.com]

No perfect match and as such maybe that wasn't what they was thinking off. Just caffeine junkies? =P

Re:people still care about visualization? (1)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591607)

Hey, back in the 90s I loved Winamp's visualizations, especially Milkdrop's (which was later made an official part of the program). At that point, probably the only "drugs" I had taken were caffeine, cold/flu/pain medicine, and (if you consider them drugs) vaccinations. Years have gone by, and while I haven't been able to properly use Winamp since 2006 (since I switched full-time from Windows to Linux), the only additions you can really add to the list are good ol' marijuana and alcohol. But if I still used Windows... hell yeah I would still be using some of its visualization plug-ins! No acid required (which I have never done to begin with).

Re:people still care about visualization? (1)

marsu_k (701360) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591821)

Protip: XBMC + projectM (Milkdrop clone/port, not sure which). Should come built-in with latest versions, requires some GPU but even a lowly ION2 handles 1080p just fine. And yes, it reduces the need for acid ;)

Re:people still care about visualization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592503)

projectM works with ANYTHING that has pulseaudio output.

Re:people still care about visualization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592517)

No more LSD? Why not?

Re:people still care about visualization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592555)

It's nice to have when working out to techno.

Re:people still care about visualization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44596415)

I use Milkdrop with foobar2000 on my projector when I have people over. It's awesome.

Re:people still care about visualization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,15 days | (#44601579)

Plenty of people under and over thirty still take LSD (they're called "artists") and these people generally listen to a lot more music than you do. Visualization systems like ProjectM (oss) / Milkdrop are *clearly* designed with drugs in mind, and there are plenty of projector / live performance applications for visualization software as well. Whether you're on drugs or not, Beauty matters! Some people just require drugs to remember that.

Not yet (-1, Troll)

PopeRatzo (965947) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590727)

Not until the entire audio layer in Linux works better with more hardware, including pro stuff like Avid, Focusrite, MOTU, etc.

It's still too fussy to get good audio out of Linux. Though I realize it's not entirely the fault of Linux.

It's great for streaming samples, rendering, etc, but not for actually playing or producing audio, without a whole lot of fiddling.

Re:Not yet (0)

xQuarkDS9x (646166) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590749)

Not until the entire audio layer in Linux works better with more hardware, including pro stuff like Avid, Focusrite, MOTU, etc.

It's still too fussy to get good audio out of Linux. Though I realize it's not entirely the fault of Linux.

It's great for streaming samples, rendering, etc, but not for actually playing or producing audio, without a whole lot of fiddling.

Really? My lubuntu install plays audio just fine with no problems. Just because you have issues doesn't mean everyone does.

Re:Not yet (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591359)

My lubuntu install plays audio just fine with no problems.

Are you illiterate or just stupid? He said, "more hardware", implying that the current audio layer in Linux isn't compatible enough with his hardware. Nor did he imply that EVERYONE had problems. Shitcan the fucking zealotry and start using your brain.

Re: Not yet (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591271)

Well just because you can't get it working... Jack is one of the most powerful tools you can have at your disposal for audio production.

Re: Not yet (1)

NonFerrousBueller (1175131) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592189)

Well, I've spent over ten hours on three different distros trying to get Jack to work, I've given up. I know I'm not alone.

Also found Amarok to be buggy, now listen using Audacious with a winamp skin I've used since the 90's (tubeamp).

Re: Not yet (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592977)

Well just because you can't get it working... Jack is one of the most powerful tools you can have at your disposal for audio production.

Now if only the tools used to control it weren't complete and utter unmitigated shit, you might really have something there. Trying to figure out why JACK won't do what I want it to do which it claims to do is an exercise in frustration which exceeds even pulseaudio.

Re: Not yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44595247)

Nah, you just suck at pro-audio... The toolset around JACK is excellent. JACK has it's limitations, but for what it is, it's as good as it can be, and it's still much, much better than what you get in other OSes. I use it to earn a living.

I don't get the PulseAudio hate either, I've never had problems with it. It even releases the soundcard automatically when I load JACK and loads it's JACK I/O module.

Re:Not yet (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591893)

I would like consumer stuff to work properly too, like the Xonar DX.

Not for me (3, Interesting)

xQuarkDS9x (646166) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590739)

I've been quite happy using Audacious in Lubuntu compared to say in the past when i've tried Clementine and Amarok and I found they both felt bloated almost like iTunes for windows.

Re:Not for me (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | 1 year,16 days | (#44593645)

I like these articles about Amarok because they inevitably lead to people discussing the alternatives, and sometimes I'll give one of them a try.

Personally I've been on Banshee for the last year or so. It's got a simple UI that reminds me of an early version of iTunes. Not too many frills, but I can pick the columns I want, and it can sync with music players. Playlist modification is simple enough as well. I personally don't need much more than that.

I just hope they don't screw it up.

Re:Not for me (2)

TeknoHog (164938) | 1 year,16 days | (#44595391)

I like these articles about Amarok because they inevitably lead to people discussing the alternatives, and sometimes I'll give one of them a try.

One of my favourite players is Herrie. Playlist management is simple enough to do in text mode.

OTOH, I still maintain my textmode frontend to Audacious [github.com] , because the Python code makes it easy to add custom functions. As a theatre sound guy, I don't want to futz around with a mouse in the midst of a play.

Text-mode players such as these are also convenient over ssh - it's quite neat to manage the player with a phone/tablet from the dance floor...

Huh. (3, Insightful)

_KiTA_ (241027) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590787)

Am I the only one who stuck with Foobar2000 back in the day, once Winamp self destructed?

I mean I have the rather... shoddy... Google Play Music on my Android Tablet, but on the PC, Foobar2000 does everything I thought I needed. Is there a compelling reason to try Clementine / Amarok?

Re:Huh. (1)

Unkl_Shvelven (1002053) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591081)

If you're disappointed with GPM on android you should try an app called PowerAmp. PowerAmp is to the android music player what foobar is to WMP, as far as formats and configurability.

Re:Huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44596471)

You're kidding, right? Poweramp doesn't come anywhere close to supporting as many formats as foobar2000 and it has nowhere near the configurability. foobar2000 can be made to look and work any way that you want and supports hundreds of formats.

Re:Huh. (1, Informative)

aliquis (678370) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591197)

Foobar2000 alternative for Linux would be deadbeef.

http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

Re:Huh. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591343)

Foobar2000 alternative for Linux would be deadbeef.

Simply incredible. They take a bad name and make it even worse.

Re:Huh. (1)

_KiTA_ (241027) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592561)

Foobar2000 alternative for Linux would be deadbeef.

Simply incredible. They take a bad name and make it even worse.

It's probably a reference to DEADBEEF, the coding term. To quote Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] :

"0xDEADBEEF ("dead beef") is frequently used to indicate a software crash or deadlock in embedded systems. DEADBEEF was originally used to mark newly allocated areas of memory that had not yet been initialized -- when scanning a memory dump, it is easy to see the DEADBEEF. It is used by IBM RS/6000 systems, Mac OS on 32-bit PowerPC processors and the Commodore Amiga as a magic debug value. On Sun Microsystems' Solaris, it marks freed kernel memory. On OpenVMS running on Alpha processors, DEAD_BEEF can be seen by pressing CTRL-T. The DEC Alpha SRM console has a background process that traps memory errors, identified by PS as "BeefEater waiting on 0xdeadbeef".[16]"

Basically it's one of those words you can write in HEX and has come to mean "This software has crashed in a way that we know is absolutely NOT hardware related."

Re:Huh. (1)

jones_supa (887896) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592777)

The name still sucks. :)

Re:Huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591869)

I prefer Aqualung.

Re:Huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44596437)

DeaDBeeF is a joke compared to fb2k.

Re:Huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592187)

once Winamp self destructed

Just curious, how exactly did that happen? I'm using Winamp Lite, which still looks and works just like the 2.x series of Winamp, even though it is the latest version. You have to scroll down a little on the Winamp download page to find it, but there it is. For me this is still the perfect interface, clean and simple.

Re:Huh. (0)

_KiTA_ (241027) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592619)

once Winamp self destructed

Just curious, how exactly did that happen? I'm using Winamp Lite, which still looks and works just like the 2.x series of Winamp, even though it is the latest version. You have to scroll down a little on the Winamp download page to find it, but there it is. For me this is still the perfect interface, clean and simple.

Winamp Lite is an afterthought. Originally you had no choice but to stick with the increasingly "AOL-afied" Winamp releases they put out. They got really quite bad at the low point, I don't know if it ever recovered or not.

Heck I didn't even know about Winamp Lite until just now, heh.

Re:Huh. (1)

readingaccount (2909349) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592713)

I should probably ask, what's wrong with modern versions of Winamp? It's my premier player in Windows because it's brimming with functionality, various bits of which I do use from time to time.

Re:Huh. (1)

vlueboy (1799360) | 1 year,16 days | (#44593311)

Funny thing happened last night. I tried to use the convert option to output spc chiptunes to wav files. My goal was to convert this to an mp3 ringtone for android.

I usually go to a place called output plugins in the complicated gui but I have forgotten how to use the program over time. So I saw a convert option and felt surprised it had ogg and mp3 support!

What is bad about this apparent improvement? The old option is probably there, but the new one asked me to BUY pro if I want any stream output to the hard drive. I think that is when I recalled that AOL bought them and started messing with the GUI as a way to pimp their music store after v2.0

Who pays for a music program anyways?

Re:Huh. (1)

readingaccount (2909349) | 1 year,15 days | (#44597983)

*raises hand*

It's $20 for a perpetual license and I had the money. *shrug*

Re:Huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44596481)

Xion and XMPlayer are way better than Winamp if you don't need the power and customization ability of foobar2000.

Amarok - still my favourite player (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,17 days | (#44590889)

With all the Amarok 2.x haters that show up to complain any time it's mentioned, you'd think Amarok 2 is the worst thing ever, on par with iTunes, but it's not. It's still a damn good client, and I prefer it over the 1.4 series (or Clementine) for varous reasons.

Amarok's smart playlist functionality has improved a lot since 1.4, and is miles ahead of Clementine, for example, allowing you to set up complex rule chains for creating random playlists that continually trim old entries and add new as you listen. Clementine finally got Amarok 1.4's smart playlists back, but they're completely overshadowed by the Amarok 2 series version.

UI flexibility is another thing I prefer; Amarok uses KDE's dockable panels model, so you can modify the interface to have as many or as few panels as you want, and even add and remove tabs to each frame. The default is a three-panel setup that works fine on widescreen, but I trim it down to a two panel layout with various tabs on the left panel. Meanwhile, Clementine offers very little flexibility in appearance, staying true to Amarok 1.4, so it's "my way or the highway". Great fit for the GNOME folks, I guess.

It also has some interesting features for finding lyrics, artist info, etc., though I use them infrequently and can't say much about them, other than they seem to work and would be useful to someone that uses them more.

People complain about the extra features and the flexibility, but that's sort of the point of Amarok. If you don't want that, stick with Foobar or mpd (which I also use, they have their places as does Amarok).

Re:Amarok - still my favourite player (0)

domatic (1128127) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591173)

Yeah but it still won't use lyrics embedded in the tag. Call me a "hater" but I HATE,HATE,HATE moronic player apps that default to searching online for data which I've already troubled to make accurate and embedded in the tag.

Re:Amarok - still my favourite player (2)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591257)

Yeah, I don't get the hate either. I love the 2.x series. And with MTP support, its brain dead easy to transfer music between my computer and phone. It just works.

Re:Amarok - still my favourite player (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591267)

Amarok 2.x has a horrible UI experience for defining and adjusting columns that makes it totally useless as a playlist-oriented media player, which is what Amarok 1.4 was (and Clementine is). Dockable panels are useless if the content of said panels is a complete clusterfuck.

I do miss better smart playlists in Clementine (particularly one thing - the ability to assign "labels" to songs and then filter based on those labels), but it more than makes up for that by, well, actually being a usable music player for me, which Amarok 2.x isn't.

I'm sure Amarok 2.x is fine if you're content with album-based music playback and don't mind a UI that shoves stuff that you may not need on screen. For playlist-centric users, it just doesn't cut it.

Re:Amarok - still my favourite player (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592111)

Amarok 1 was good. Then made 2 and the interface changed so, that it was unusable. Also all the bugs in it made it a pretty bad experience, i stuck with it for a while, but after it was clear, that the bugs wouldn't seem to get fixed, i gave up. I have tried it again from time to time, but it's buggy, and the UI is crap and it doesn't have the features it used to have and i don't like all that "smart" crap they keep shoving my face. Atleast the last time i checked, haven't checked in a while anymore.

I think i gave amarok 2 a fair chance, but it just never was as good as 1.

Re:Amarok - still my favourite player (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,12 days | (#44637169)

Sorry but it used 600 MB of RAM on my system and it wasn't playing anything. That is crap by any measure.

KDE 4 + Amaraok 2 were terrible ideas. (0)

soupbowl (1849394) | 1 year,17 days | (#44590901)

KDE took Amarok down to hell with it when it hit version 4.0.

Re:KDE 4 + Amaraok 2 were terrible ideas. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44593051)

KDE4 started out on the wrong foot but quickly went back to sanity, and KDE4 today is an excellent desktop environment.

Amarok never recovered after 2.0.

Re:KDE 4 + Amaraok 2 were terrible ideas. (1)

KugelKurt (908765) | 1 year,12 days | (#44628453)

Amarok never recovered after 2.0.

If Amarok was so bad, why is it so popular?
According to https://www.ohloh.net/p/amarok [ohloh.net] it has a rating of 4.5/5.0 and "High Activity" with 56 current contributors (400 overall; not even counting translations as they are in another repo (SVN not git)). That's a lot for only a music player.

Re:KDE 4 + Amaraok 2 were terrible ideas. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,12 days | (#44637281)

Argumentum ad populum is a fallacy. It needs no rebuttal to dismiss.

Sorry, not interested (-1, Troll)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | 1 year,16 days | (#44590979)

I'm a Gentoo user, and I ditched Amarok a few versions ago, when it started insisting I compile kdelibs with +semantic-desktop AND expected nepomuk to be running, too. I told that fucking camel to get its nose right out of my tent.

Re:Sorry, not interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591187)

That's probably a KDElibs issue (which I suspect is the one demanding Nepomuk, not Amarok), and solvable through configuration.

They introduced the possibility of using Nepomuk as your library database in 2.7, though it's a plugin (ergo, optional) you still can use the (default) SQLite database, or MySQL, like Amarok has been doing since 1.4.
I'm currently running the Amarok 2.7 packaged in Debian testing, and the Nepomuk plugin isn't even present.

In the near future, since the KDElibs will get all modularized after the switch to Qt 5 (plus hopefully all distros taking a few cues from the KlyDE guys), the Nepomuk as a dependency issue will (hopefully/probably) disappear.

Re:Sorry, not interested (1)

fast turtle (1118037) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591529)

You need to set -semantic-desktop for kdelibs and systemsettings

solves the problem and even keeps strigi off the build.

Re:Sorry, not interested (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591731)

I guess I wasn't clear. I've had "-semantic-desktop" set globally (in make.conf) all along. I dumped Amarok when it started insisting it wanted kedlibs(+semantic-desktop), and nepomuk (which I refuse to install) as well.

Re:Sorry, not interested (1)

KugelKurt (908765) | 1 year,12 days | (#44628397)

I guess I wasn't clear. I've had "-semantic-desktop" set globally (in make.conf) all along. I dumped Amarok when it started insisting it wanted kedlibs(+semantic-desktop), and nepomuk (which I refuse to install) as well.

That's broken packaging on Gentoo's side. File a Gentoo bug report.

I've left amarok a long time ago (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591169)

I've found Gmusicbrowser and it suits my needs much better than any player I've seen. Fast with a huge library, random rules, cuztomiable interface and great popup window to control it.

you fail it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591227)

GNAA (GAY NIIGER know5 that ever Fact: *BSD is dying of its core

This is why I use and contribute to Nightingale (3, Informative)

ilikenwf (1139495) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591241)

http://getnightingale.org/ [getnightingale.org] seems to be coming along nicely. I'm a bit biased but it really is a nice multiplatform player. We've even got feature/bug bounties setup now (we don't handle the money, it's through this site, which tracks our github issues:https://www.bountysource.com/trackers/230233-nightingale-media-player-nightingale-hacking).

We almost have gstreamer 1.0 and xulrunner 9 working with it...from there it's upgrading some other stuff and getting it stable, and we'll be golden. All of you are free to join and help us develop!

Crappy players (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44591425)

Why cant any one make a freaking working music player for linux just like winamp classic is?
No player that I have tried can handle more than 500 tracks, Amarok doesn't even have a freaking shuffle button(just shuffle the playlist and be like that for ever), craps and crashes every minute.
WTF!!!

Re:Crappy players (1)

fast turtle (1118037) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591541)

there is one and it's called QMMP that uses QT4 and is a clone of xmmp and is what I use as clementine failed on me, amarok 2 stinks, nitghtengale fails to build along with a rash of others that simply don't do what I want and that's play my music.

Re:Crappy players (1)

Psicopatico (1005433) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592109)

+1 for QMMP.
While it's still a < 1.0 release, it gets the job done (it plays :p ).
Also, there are a fair amount of skins for it, as it accepts skins for Audacity or XMMS.
At the moment I use one which replicates exactly the good old WinAmp 1.0. Hell, it even has the WinAmp name on each window... For the curious, here it is [gnome-look.org]

Re: Crappy players (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591669)

I have over 4000 tracks in amorok On shuffle right now...

Re:Crappy players (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591979)

To me, the Winamp clone was Audacious (down to the winamp 2.x UI clone compatible with skins, like winamp 5.x). Then I got fed up with it. I still recommend it if your window manager doesn't have the bug with the sub windows in winamp 2 mode (developers says it's the window managers's fault and wontfix, and they appear to be technically right but it sucks on Mate or LXDE or at least last times I tried it). The worst stuff is what they pay attention to, the gtk3 interface, (non skinnable) looks good but sucks donkey balls : you can't resize the columns. They wontfix either and think we'll have to like it, but this mean you can't even have a file manager and the playlist side by side on a 1280 wide display, and be able to read shit!

tl;dr : I now use deadbeef which is like a clone of Audacious gtk3 but with more usability.
Slight weird thing, shuffle is under "playback" drop-down menu and "order" rather than click on a shuffle button.

Re:Crappy players (1)

Burz (138833) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592383)

Why cant any one make a freaking working music player for linux just like winamp classic is?

I have enough karma, so I'll go ahead and say it: People with proper creative vision are repelled by the whole "Linux desktop" morass. I have to wonder if anyone who worked on Amarok 1.x felt they had been undermined; I know a lot of KDE users did.

Re:Crappy players (1)

Nertskull (2535776) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592625)

Guayadeque can handle that many. I have over 20k in there right now and it works just fine.

Re:Crappy players (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,16 days | (#44593001)

Why don't you just try xmms2? It does all that shit.

Personally I use rhythmbox. It's my answer to banshee, because it does all the same crap and doesn't give your system Mono.

I assure you that it can handle more than 500 tracks. I can literally just shuffle play through my entire music collection. It has literally never crashed on me.

I've tried amarok, songbird, banshee, lots of others. All sucked. Rhythmbox sucks least

Re:Crappy players (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44595025)

Why cant any one make a freaking working music player for linux just like winamp classic is?
No player that I have tried can handle more than 500 tracks,..

500 tracks?
For your amusement, I still run xmms (v1.2.11) my current playlist is at 18,948 tracks.
I've just downloaded and installed Clementine for the hell of it and am currently listening to Aryeon: The Human Equation: Day 6: Childhood (entry 938 in the playlist), it managed to index most of the music locally on my machine in less than 15 minutes, that was 19,557 tracks (includes those file formats that I've never bothered to sort out the plugins for xmms to allow it to play)

Oldfield (1, Offtopic)

rossdee (243626) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591441)

Am I the only one who saw the headline and thought wow has Mike released another 60 minute masterpiece, but sadly its just a new version of a music player :(

Re:Oldfield (1)

Prune (557140) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591655)

You and me, brother.

gawd (0)

Osgeld (1900440) | 1 year,16 days | (#44591793)

ui improvements and visualizations, what is this? 1996?

here is what I want a music player to do, play music and get the fuck out of the way, there is like 5 controls and they are already on everyone's keyboard, why even HAVE a UI anymore?

Re:gawd (1)

Stuarticus (1205322) | 1 year,13 days | (#44616203)

I imagine that works great when you're trying to play your copy of Jonathon Coulter's greatest hits, some people have music collections that actually need some kind of management.

Bugfixing ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592607)

Hope they fixed the bug with the playlist that I submitted on their bugtracker.. now afair 2 years ago -_-.

Re:Bugfixing ... (1)

jones_supa (887896) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592797)

What bug? Can you find it still in the bug tracker? Have you tested 2.8 to see if it's fixed?

Re:Bugfixing ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,15 days | (#44599985)

Haven't checked in teh bugtracker, but yeah, tested it yesterday. It's still there. Not surprised here :/.

Not impressed so far with 2.8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44592753)

My Mageia installation auto updated to 2.8 a couple of days ago. Reading this prompted me to fire it up.

Main Problem: I have this dialog box entitled "Updating System Configuration" (whatever that means) The progress bar has been chugging away for the last 22 MINUTES and is still only at 60%. (note: on this laptop I have about 1GB of music)

No idea what it's doing, but thus far I'm less than impressed. What on earth is it doing? Why on earth is taking so long? Who on earth thinks this a 25 minute startup is acceptable?
(second note: As I was typing the dialog box reached 100% of "updating system configuration" and then restarted again at 5% - what a useless application!)

And the key improvements are? (1)

bankman (136859) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592815)

* A fancy audio analyzer visualization applet
* Smooth fade-out when pausing music
* Many UI improvements and visual tweaks including better support for alternate color themes

With priorities like this, we can expect a decent application in about two decades I guess.

"Return to the Origin" How they taunt us! (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592829)

I read the release name and thought for a moment they'd realised the error of their ways since 1.4. Sadly no. I will continue to use Clementine.

Amarok: Full-screen or unusable (1)

Foske (144771) | 1 year,16 days | (#44592877)

Is it just me who thinks Amarok is a ridiculous piece of software which is bloated to the max, yet misses basic features or makes them hard to use ? For me, the previous version was an example of everything that can be wrong with audio players. Let's see what this one has to offer.

No thanks! (1)

SigmundFloyd (994648) | 1 year,16 days | (#44593385)

I prefer moc [daper.net] . It doesn't waste CPU time with silly and useless animations, and it works from the console.

Equalizer (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44594661)

Does it have it finally? Or the developers are still too dumb to implement it?

Re:Equalizer (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,16 days | (#44596199)

It's been implemented a while ago.

It requires the Gstreamer Phonon backend, though.

Library Management and auto tag/filename (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | 1 year,16 days | (#44596293)

I just want one that can handle fixing my collection, preferably on multi-platform since I'm on Win7. MP3Tag works fairly well but I'd rather have something that can handle anything thrown at it without a lot of manual intervention. When the length of songs are known, it should be able to auto match to the version of the album I've got, including extra tracks. - HEX

Literally, the sheet music :-) (1)

bbsalem (2784853) | 1 year,14 days | (#44604623)

What would be so hard about analyzing the FFT every 1/10 sec for the power specturn in pitch frequency and attempting to assign a note name to the pitches? Make that the visualization, sheet music of a sort, and I don't mean just a piano roll kind of thing. There have been attempts to do this since at least 1970. One doesn't have to be perfectionistic and determine meter, two triplets is good enough for 6/8 time and so what if measures aren't drawn?

more importantly, (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,14 days | (#44607763)

will it stop crashing in kubuntu?

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