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Diablo 3 Expansion Announced: Reaper of Souls

Soulskill posted about 8 months ago | from the do-you-SEE-that-expansion-over-there?! dept.

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Today at Gamescom in Germany, Blizzard announced the first expansion to Diablo III, titled Reaper of Souls. The story will follow a fallen archangel called Mathael who has returned as the Angel of Death. The level cap will increase to 70, and the expansion will bring a new playable class to the game called the Crusader, whom they described as a "natural walking tank." Reaper of Souls will also bring vast improvements to the loot system; in addition to having a better chance to find good, useful gear for the character you're playing, the items themselves are getting an overhaul to make for more interesting gameplay. Instead of being simply loaded down with combat stats, legendary items will include unique ways to modify how your character functions. They're also implementing something the community has been asking for since shortly after the game came out: randomized dungeons. Further, the Paragon leveling system, put in place after launch as a way to provide character progression after reaching the level cap, will be made account-wide, rather than on a per-character basis. A new profession NPC has been added as well: the Mystic, which lets players reroll one of the stats on a powerful item. As you might expect, Blizzard did not mention a release date. The Reaper of Souls opening cinematic is available on YouTube, as is a brief gameplay video.

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How is it even possible? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633763)

They dumbed down Diablo 3 even further!

Re:How is it even possible? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633881)

Yeah! By adding complexity! Boy, the nerve!

Re: How is it even possible? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44635181)

Can you play it offline? Or is it still completely worthless?

Re: How is it even possible? (1, Troll)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 8 months ago | (#44635317)

Do you even need to ask? This is Activision we're talking about here. They should rename themselves "EA Light."

Don't expect high sales (3, Insightful)

WarJolt (990309) | about 8 months ago | (#44633773)

Gamer don't normally allow themselves to be disappointed twice.

Expect high sales (4, Insightful)

Piata (927858) | about 8 months ago | (#44633949)

Gamers are stupid. Blizzard has been on a downturn for a while but people will still line up in droves for this. If you need any further proof, look at Call of Duty. Exact same engine, almost indentical gameplay, loaded to the brim with shitty DLC that's made irrelevant by next year's installment and it STILL sells 10 - 15 million units.

Look how long it's taken for people to abandon EA. It's been years since they were considered the worst company ever and they are just now starting to feel that wrath. If Blizzard and their brands fall, it will happen at a slow and steady pace.

Re:Expect high sales (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634611)

*click* *click* WTF?!? *click* *click* am not stupid! *click* *click* this game takes *click* *click* *click* *click* smarts! *click* *click* *click*

Re:Expect high sales (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44636747)

What input device sound effects are associated with more intelligent gaming? *clack* *bzzt* *whrrr*?

Re:Expect high sales (2)

lgw (121541) | about 8 months ago | (#44634809)

Sure, except that only a small percentage of people who bought D3 are still playing it. I'm sure those still playing it will mostly buy the expansion, but those who were disappointed not so much.

I thought it was an OK game - played it for several nights, and can't complain about the hours of entertainment I got for my money, but it fell well below the "buy the sequel" bar. There is no shortage of new games, and in any case I'd find going back to D2 single player more fun than a D3 expansion. Heck, if I could find that expansion for D1 that added nightmare and hell difficulty, I'd play it - D1 was a neat (if simple) roguelike.

Re:Expect high sales (1)

oreiasecaman (2466136) | about 8 months ago | (#44637229)

Heck, if I could find that expansion for D1 that added nightmare and hell difficulty, I'd play it - D1 was a neat (if simple) roguelike.

Multiplayer on D1 allows you to do just that

Re:Expect high sales (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | about 8 months ago | (#44638851)

D1 on the Psone allows you to do that in both Single and Multiplayer. No need to trick the game by starting a Multiplayer game then starting in single.

Re:Expect high sales (1)

readingaccount (2909349) | about 8 months ago | (#44637753)

Look how long it's taken for people to abandon EA. It's been years since they were considered the worst company ever and they are just now starting to feel that wrath.

Hah! Really? There are previews for Sims 4 now and I guarantee you it will rake in the cash for EA once it's released - particularly since its main audience are generally not dedicated gamers who peruse gaming news sites and probably aren't aware of EA's behavior.

Not to mention, stuff like the latest Humble Bundle being all EA/Origin stuff, which is turning out to be likely the largest bundle in terms of purchases/revenue of all the bundles so far. You're right - gamers are stupid. But I think they're a bit more stupid than you think.

Re:Don't expect high sales (5, Informative)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 8 months ago | (#44633957)

I swore Blizzard off after the first D3, and then was pleasantly surprised when no one I knew liked Heart of the Swarm. I will pass on this one as well.

Something interesting I noticed a few weeks ago is that the only game I've enjoyed that I paid more than $20 for in as long as I can remember is Payday 2.

I think I'm officially off the Triple-As.

Re:Don't expect high sales (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633983)

I swore Blizzard off after the first D3, and then was pleasantly surprised when no one I knew liked Heart of the Swarm.

Wow, you're a sour person aren't you? Is it really something for you to see others fail? Is that what it takes to make you feel good? Wow. Just wow.

Re:Don't expect high sales (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634183)

Wow, you're a sour person aren't you? Is it really something for you to see others fail? Is that what it takes to make you feel good? Wow. Just wow.

He expected Heart of the Swarm to be a good game and well received by his friends, making him regret his decision not to buy it. He's happy that his friends' opinions seem to confirm that he made the right decision in not buying the game. I don't see anything "sour" in that.

Re:Don't expect high sales (1)

camazotz (1242344) | about 8 months ago | (#44634383)

But...he invalidated his comments by stating that he liked Payday 2, so not sure his opinions are worth all that much. In it's defense, maybe Payday 2 was actually decent....the bar was set very, very low with the original, after all.

Re:Don't expect high sales (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 8 months ago | (#44634759)

The first one wasn't necessarily bad either. It was very limited, and repetitive, but compared with buying Remember Me for $60 and losing any reason to ever touch it again after beating it in about 5 hours, well, Payday 1 was okay for the $15 I spent on it.

It probably helps that I have a full group of people I routinely play both games with. I probably wouldn't have played the first one as much as I did if it weren't for that. Playing a game like that solo or with random assholes on the internet would probably result in me losing interest much faster.

Re:Don't expect high sales (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634399)

yeah, WoW is failing as well...

Re:Don't expect high sales (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 8 months ago | (#44634677)

Well, I'm pretty bitter, but I think you misinterpreted me. I wasn't reveling in my friends wasting their time and money on a game that sucked. That'd just make me a TOTAL asshole. What I meant was that I was happy I didn't miss out on a good game because I vengefully wrote off an entire developer for want of one bad game.

Re:Don't expect high sales (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44635087)

>I think I'm officially off the Triple-As.

Not really sure what's your point. D3 was bad so now you think all AAA games are bad, and you are happy i they actually are bad?

Maybe you are just an asshole.

Re:Don't expect high sales (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634001)

And that's why EA went bankrupt how many years ago?

Re:Don't expect high sales (1)

WarJolt (990309) | about 8 months ago | (#44634197)

There is always kids willing to spend their parents money on a new game.
Doesn't mean it doesn't effect sales when a game stinks. Especially a sequel/expansion.

Re:Don't expect high sales (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634223)

Wrong. Gamers don't normally hold grudges.

If the game's good, the message will spread "omg they fixed it" and people will flock (back) to it.

If it's not, ah well. Some will still play it, just like how some people still play farmville or candy crush saga (and pay for it too)

Holding grudges (to a dev, to a company, to a publisher, to a platform, etc) is a thing for nerds (so I don't expect this comment to be well received here)

Re:Don't expect high sales (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634413)

I already talked to one blizz fanboy who knows how bad D3 is, knows this isn't going to fix it, and is lining up to buy it minute #1.

capcha: justify. Yup, that makes sense.

Re:Don't expect high sales (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634761)

I personally won't be wasting my money. D3 was a complete and utter failure compared to its predecessors in my opinion (and from the reviews, most other peoples as well). After the crap Blizz pulled with WOW, D3, and how generally insulting and condescending they are to their consumers, I am glad to see WOW dying out like it is.

Re:Don't expect high sales (2)

JDeane (1402533) | about 8 months ago | (#44638031)

What I don't understand is how you can go from Diablo II LOD to Diablo III... I bought Diablo 1 maybe a year after it came out (hey computers where expensive back then! lol) when Diablo II came out I had it on pre order at Electronics Boutique and managed to get my copy a day early... So awesome!!! Then the expansion came out LOD and holy shit it was fucking awesome, the patches only made it (mostly) better and I still play on the ladder to this day. I may have spent some money on the game but I feel like I have gotten 10 times my money out of it in value. I got Diablo III the day it released, I have a barb about half way into inferno and even made some money (more money than I spent on buying the game!) at the RMA and holy shit you can't even pay me to play the game.... (I mean that literally I can make money playing it and I still just can't bring myself to do it. The game is boring....)

Maybe the expansion will fix some things, but after reading up on it and watching the video's a couple of times each trying to see what was new... I don't see any sort of in depth crafting system or runewords. I probably will skip the expansion unless it gets insanely good reviews months after release (you can't trust new reviews on a new game those are prime selling material....)

"Crusader" (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633779)

... may want to rename that class for the Middle East...

Re:"Crusader" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634079)

Yea the translation must be Jihadi

Strayed too far from the original formula (3, Interesting)

stewsters (1406737) | about 8 months ago | (#44633823)

Randomized dungeons are a good sign. The devs need to go play some roguelikes and less WOW for a few weeks before working on it. That may detoxify them enough to fix it.

Re:Strayed too far from the original formula (1)

Whorhay (1319089) | about 8 months ago | (#44634181)

I like the changes to legendaries, or at least the idea they are floating for it. One of the fun things in D2 was items that could change the way you played your character in a huge way. Although in the case of the Enigma runeword it was kind of game breaking.

Re:Strayed too far from the original formula (1)

JDeane (1402533) | about 8 months ago | (#44638117)

Enigma was awesome!!! Of course getting a legit one was pretty much a pipe dream. (by legit I mean making it with non duped runes.)

I can only imagine the number of runes one would have to cube to get Jah and Ber...

I MISSED THE ANNOUCEMENT OF THE ANNOUCEMENT !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633833)

So now I am caught up !!

Dem Mobs (1)

Ignacio (1465) | about 8 months ago | (#44633857)

And the mobs will still have 5 more HP than the damage of the weapon you brought into the level.

Deja Vu? (4, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 8 months ago | (#44633859)

I seem to remember playing this class in D2 but it was called a Paladin at the time.

Re:Deja Vu? (3, Interesting)

Alok (37687) | about 8 months ago | (#44634913)

I remember randomized dungeons in D1, and good loot systems in both D1 & D2.

Unfortunately most of the 'new to D3!' stuff is a rehash of things that used to exist in the former games, but at least they are working to bring it up to par in those departments.

Re:Deja Vu? (1)

Sabriel (134364) | about 8 months ago | (#44638639)

Yes, and in the dev talk they say that's where they drew part of their inspiration from; the "lore" is basically that the Crusaders are an offshoot/subgroup of the original Paladins.

Don't care. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633911)

Diablo:Reaper of wallets.

After getting a good look at the current thing with the name diablo on it... I didn't even bother.

Enough people did tho. They're making crazy cash.

So i expect the money grab to continue with diablo n+1

crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44633929)

Who would play this crap? They just now got randomized dungeons....?

Thanks Dice! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634023)

Hope this slashvertisement paid the bills!

Offline Single Player? (4, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 8 months ago | (#44634049)

Any word on offline single player? No offline single player, no sale.

Re:Offline Single Player? (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about 8 months ago | (#44634217)

Yeah, they aren't doing that. Blizzard stopped being a company I was interested with starcraft 2, and haven't started again since.

Re:Offline Single Player? (3, Informative)

CronoCloud (590650) | about 8 months ago | (#44634297)

Yeah, they aren't doing that.

Actually, they did do that, in the console versions.

Re:Offline Single Player? (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about 8 months ago | (#44634909)

As long as my options as a player are limited somehow, I can feel free to give blizzard money.

Re:Offline Single Player? (1)

pulski (126566) | about 8 months ago | (#44634323)

Any word on offline single player? No offline single player, no sale.

With the inclusion of a real money auction house, I'm glad it's online only. An offline mode just opens the game up to hacking, item duping/creation, etc. If an end user's PC is generating loot drops, they can be manipulated. When it's done server side, it can't.

Re:Offline Single Player? (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 8 months ago | (#44634425)

in D2 you had an online char and an offline char. there is no reason they cant do the same with D3. I was one of those dumb enough to pre order it many many months before release, beat it through within a few hours and havent picked it up since. Hell I STILL put D2 in from time to time

Re:Offline Single Player? (1)

Hatta (162192) | about 8 months ago | (#44634553)

With the inclusion of a real money auction house, I'm glad it's online only.

Which is of no value to anyone except Blizzard, who takes a cut of all those transactions. How about providing us a game that's actually well balanced, and doesn't require players to fork over cash to win?

Re:Offline Single Player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634985)

i made a few hundred dollars, so i suppose it was a value to me at the time.

The still ended up boring me, and there updates have been just a joke

also, i never bought anything, i just killed things and sold things i found, and then spend the money on a word that has two e's a w and a d

Re:Offline Single Player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44636871)

spend the money on a word that has two e's a w and a d

Slashdot: News for Teens.

Re:Offline Single Player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44638007)

He clearly meant an inflatable sheep - a "dick-ewe". Poor guy has been hitting the sheep so hard, he forgot how to write coherent sentences.

Re:Offline Single Player? (1)

dnaumov (453672) | about 8 months ago | (#44637013)

Exactly how often are you in front of your gaming PC without internet access? Serious question.

If I found myself in this situation, my first concern would be getting back internet connectivity, gaming would be somewhere pretty damn far down the list. That being said, I find it pretty hard to end up without internet access unless it's deliberate. If my VDSL is down (which happens never) or if I am travelling, I can just connect use my iPhone's connection (99% of the country has mobile coverage). Even planes have Wi-Fi (I am in Europe).

Re:Offline Single Player? (3, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 8 months ago | (#44637179)

Exactly how often are you in front of your gaming PC without internet access? Serious question.

That's not the point at all. I refuse to buy a game that can be taken away from me at any point with no recourse. I still play 30 year old games on my Tandy, and I hope to be around to play games from today 30 years from now.

I object to disposible culture in the strongest possible terms. If this practice becomes acceptable, future generations will be unable to benefit from their cultural heritage. What if the works of Shakespeare and Bach were dependent on a third party service that disappeared 10 years after release?

Point and click... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634061)

... sux balls big time... lazy 1990's games gonna lazy...

Re:Point and click... (1)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | about 8 months ago | (#44634227)

Then don't play.

Being point-and-click is NOT the reason D3 got so much flak.

If thedy got rid of the RMAH and all the game mechanics to steer players to it (i.e. crap loot, insanely hard mobs towards the end of Hell and Inferno unless you buy RMAH gear), I'd jump right back on it.

Re:Point and click... (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | about 8 months ago | (#44634315)

If thedy got rid of the RMAH and all the game mechanics to steer players to it (i.e. crap loot, insanely hard mobs towards the end of Hell and Inferno unless you buy RMAH gear), I'd jump right back on it.

Your wish is Blizzard's command because the console versions have no RMAH

Re:Point and click... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44636205)

I tried playing it again about three weeks ago and was pleasantly surprised. You don't need RMAH gear to finish Inferno with Monster Power turned off.

Gear to finish Inferno on Monster Power 2-3 is pretty cheap as well. Also, some of the more unpleasant monster affix combinations were eliminated.

No need for an expansion, Blizzard (4, Insightful)

Azure Flash (2440904) | about 8 months ago | (#44634141)

You're already reaped my soul with Diablo 3. I had to Exile myself to repair the damage you've done to my soul.

Re:No need for an expansion, Blizzard (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | about 8 months ago | (#44634203)

You're already reaped my soul with Diablo 3. I had to Exile myself to repair the damage you've done to my soul.

"legendary items will include unique ways to modify how your character functions" is one of the ~10 innovations that make Path of Exile so much better than D3, and given Blizzard's track record I'm confident that the D3 expansion implementation won't be nearly as interesting or fun as the feature it's cloning from PoE.

Re:No need for an expansion, Blizzard (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | about 8 months ago | (#44634805)

Actually, unless I'm misunderstanding you, that's a key feature of D2 that D3 was missing. I remember collecting runes to build weapons that gave me all sorts of cool abilities from other classes.

Re:No need for an expansion, Blizzard (1)

Quirkz (1206400) | about 8 months ago | (#44636047)

I remember collecting runes to build weapons that gave me all sorts of cool abilities from other classes.

I remember playing for dozens of hours collecting runes but never getting enough of them to spell any good words. Not sure if it was bad luck, not playing at high enough level, or just not grinding another few hundred hours. I never seemed to get all the pieces to any of the good sets, either.

Re:No need for an expansion, Blizzard (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | about 8 months ago | (#44638177)

Sounds like D2. I played for hundreds of hours, farming the high end caves, and managed to build enough wealth on battle.net to trade for pretty awesome gear. But it was a long haul. Very fun, though.

Uh huh. Yeah let's all go waste a sixty on this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634269)

I don't play online-only games on satellite internet.
I'm also waiting for those assholes to give the Shaman its class review. Never DID get that ever did they?

Besides, the Wizard's probably still a glass peashooter and utterly fucked in higher difficulties.
Last I'd played D3 the one method by which I could survive on hell got nerfed to hell; turns out surviving with difficulty and effort was an exploit, not as intended.

Fool me once...maybe I'll be back in ten years. (4, Interesting)

Remus Shepherd (32833) | about 8 months ago | (#44634339)

I won't be buying this expansion because D3 was such a huge disappointment, I don't see any expansion ever making it fun. I think my highest level character was 37 -- I stopped when I got to Hell difficulty, because there seemed no point in playing the exact same content over a third time. Meanwhile it didn't seem possible to progress without spending real-world money. Blizzard lost me with this game.

But on a related note, I have a question. Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) is bringing out the new Everquest Next which looks amazing. But I swore off of Sony in 2000 after being a guide in the original Everquest. The guide program was so corrupt, and the John Smedley administration was so disrespectful of the players, that I swore never to buy another Sony game. Has Sony improved? After more than ten years I'd be willing to give them another chance if I hear that they're not the pure evil they used to be. (I know EA is still pure evil, but I haven't heard anything lately about SOE.)

Blizzard has probably lost me for ten years. We'll see if they still try to trick players into spending money, and whether they re-discover what makes game fun.

Re:Fool me once...maybe I'll be back in ten years. (1)

Lithdren (605362) | about 8 months ago | (#44634599)

As a Planetside 2 Player, I have no complaints about SOE. I played the original Planetside and I didn't care for them much at that time, but they do seem to listen to their player base well. Each game of course has a seperate team, I get the feeling SOE is more of a management company, with all these smaller game groups under them, unlike something like EA which rules with an iron fist.

I'd sugest keeping an open mind, maybe hang out in forums and follow up on it. If something comes up that starts sounding alarm bells you'll know what to do.

Re:Fool me once...maybe I'll be back in ten years. (2)

Alok (37687) | about 8 months ago | (#44634989)

EQ Next is going to be free 2 play, so what is the harm in trying it out? It looks really interesting, I definitely plan to play - never played EQ at all so it will be a completely new world & lore for me. If they start pushing microtransactions heavily etc., its not a big loss to stop once the game is no longer fun.

Re:Fool me once...maybe I'll be back in ten years. (1)

Remus Shepherd (32833) | about 8 months ago | (#44635707)

The point of avoiding a bad game producer is not just to hit their bottom line. If they're playing mind games with their players, I don't want to be involved with them at all. I also don't want to inflate their player numbers, even if I'm not a paying customer.

That said, I might give EQ Next a try. It sounds like they may have learned their lesson about how to treat their players.

Re:Fool me once...maybe I'll be back in ten years. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44637593)

That's ok, I will continue to buy every game Blizzard makes.

The people that hate Diablo3 hate it because they didn't read what they were buying. Diablo3 is a great game that I've played since launch, because it was designed for actual hardcore item grinders, not casual gamers that call themselves hardcore because they play games 14 hours a week.

Diablo3 is for basement dweller gamers that only see sunshine on the 11pm news. If you're not from that demographic then don't bitch about D3 because it was not designed for you.

Better loot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634539)

How many times have they reworked the loot system now? is this the third time? and didnt't they have a working system for D2? O.o

They lost me at hello (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634603)

I bought D3 because D2 was so big and people played it for a decade. It's a joke... they took everything interesting out. All the characters play the same. It's boring.

And they've ruined WOW btw... blizz fell... it's gone... all that's left is a vampire trying to suck every last drop of blood from the corpse of their fanbase.

thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44634779)

but gta v will get my time instead

d3 was too much of a disappointment to invest anything more in it

Here comes the haters out of the woodwork... (0)

nhat11 (1608159) | about 8 months ago | (#44634843)

People complain the game isn't great but at the same time it isn't horrible. There's a tons of worse games out there that people don't play.

Re:Here comes the haters out of the woodwork... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44635027)

Certainly DIII isn't horrible (the boss fights remind me of old side-scroll games, though!), but this game had legions of fans waiting anxiously for an evolution of DII LOD and it fell woefully short in many aspects. Blizzard's hype and high expectations on the part of the gamer community failed DIII.

Wonk wonk wonk... (2, Insightful)

Urthas (2349644) | about 8 months ago | (#44634859)

...oh, please. All of you saying that you're done with Blizzard, and "fool me once...", and that you won't buy RoS are not fooling anyone. You will ALL buy it. Maybe not at first, but you will. And you know it.

Re:Wonk wonk wonk... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44635861)

Yes, of course we will. I'm sure you're not a fanboy at all with that username.
What's wrong was Arthas already taken?

Re:Wonk wonk wonk... (1)

Urthas (2349644) | about 8 months ago | (#44638085)

I have no idea. I like the character of Uther, and the story of Arthas. Now that that's out of the way, Anonymous Coward, you know I'm right.

New Paragon system will make HC a joke (2)

Alok (37687) | about 8 months ago | (#44635053)

Anyone who gets to level 60 (or I guess its now level 70) can now work at getting Paragon levels, and use the points for Vit on ALL characters? This means that HC has far less risk for those who have a whole lot of extra Vit compared to the plebs who don't have a higher level char.

Of course, there's already big differences depending on what equipment you can afford or got lucky to find, but I wonder if this could make people lose interest in the HC scene (or conversely, some will buy the expansion just so that their alts start off with a lot of advantages)

What??! (1)

Iniamyen (2440798) | about 8 months ago | (#44635239)

It took them this long to create some new backgrounds and generate some new random names/states for monsters, armor, and weapons? They must have been sleeping on the job.

I am a huge Blizzard fan, but Diablo 3 was NOT worth $60. I definitely won't be getting DUPED this time. heh.

Tank? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44635409)

Doesn't diablo 3 already have two tank classes the barbarian and the monk?

Re:Tank? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44636725)

Yeah, but neither of those is a Paladin, which is what folks* really want. The Monk was widely played as a substitute, but it doesn't have the physical damage survivability that a Paladin would. A Crusader is getting closer.

* People who play Paladins.

Path of Exile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44635661)

No thanks. Path of Exile is enough for me. Free, darker more mature world, interesting customization options, developer responsive to the community and actively managing various competitions and race events, plus rooting for the small guy is always in style.

When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. (1)

mindwanderer (1169521) | about 8 months ago | (#44635885)

I know they've probably been working on this for a long time and they just want a return on that investment, but I think it's going to hurt them in the long run when it's revealed to be yet another lackluster Blizzard offering.

Pay Me (1)

aoism (996912) | about 8 months ago | (#44636039)

Blizzard will have to pay me to play this. I gave up on WoW after Cataclysm, but was looking forward to D3. The game was fun for a week. Once the cap was hit, it was just grinding and filling up your inventory with worthless loot. I gave them a chance after every patch that they promised to make it better. The Paragon system was interesting, though the initial time to get to level 100 was some astronomical amount of effort. It still didn't change the fact that at 100000% MF, you'd still have an inventory of things that you can't sell on the AH. Then for new players? Good luck if you want to buy anything. Everything costs 1m - 100bill. Only if you get lucky (which doesnt happen very much) can you buy loot .. unless of course you buy items or gold with real money. And that's the way they want it. Sorry Blizzard. You used to be awesome. Now you're just hopeless.

D3 Expansion set was already released... (3, Interesting)

GoJays (1793832) | about 8 months ago | (#44636107)

...It's called Torchlight 2.

The real Diablo 3 in my books.

Re:D3 Expansion set was already released... (2)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 8 months ago | (#44637259)

Disagree 100%. I've played Torchlight 2, Path of Exile, and Borderlands 2. IMO the FREE Path of Exile is by far away the true spiritual successor to Diablo 2. The only Pay-To-Win they have is that you can buy, colorize, and rename your stash tabs which is a god-send compared to the crappy 4 tabs D3 offers.

Diablo 3 is an epic failure for one reason: itemization. Precisely, the total lack of it. One of the things that made D2 so great was the multiple tier economies:
* chipped gems,
* pgems
* set items
* runes
* runewords
* keys
* torches
* anni
* Rares

No matter where your wealth was, you could always "upgrade" to the next tier of wealth given enough time. Even a shitty Hammerdin with crap gear could MF / farm.

Diablo 3 threw all the great things right out the window and made a game for boobs & noobs = BORING. In contradistinction the Path of Exile skill tree is HUGE -- there are a large number of variety builds built around single items (just like D2) compared to the few cookie-cutter D3 builds offers.

Where again is the PvP in D3 ??
http://www.pcgamesn.com/diablo/diablo-3s-game-director-problem-pvp-its-got-be-blizzard-quality [pcgamesn.com]

Re:D3 Expansion set was already released... (1)

pspahn (1175617) | about 8 months ago | (#44637795)

Fond memories of my axe throwing barb in D2. He was one of the very few out there that would kick some ass in pvp. Throw Axes had no sockets. The unique was terrible. I spent countless hours gambling rares to get the ones I had.

D3 was sorta okay fun for a little bit, but the total lack of diversity just made the game too dull. I enjoyed having an actual unique character that was fun to play and of my own creation. D3 ruined that.

No sale (2)

ninetyninebottles (2174630) | about 8 months ago | (#44636941)

I'm a casual gamer. I don't mind shelling out some money for a weekend or two of fun. I bought Diablo 3 and at first it was, okay, but not on par with Diablo 2. I often ended up dying or at least being very annoyed when network lag interfered with playability, and of course there is no offline mode. That was annoying. But the real problem came when my account was de-activated randomly one day. Well crap, that's strange, but I had the serial and the login and password for my account, how much of a hassle could it be? Several e-mail exchanges and numerous broken help pages later, they finally decided they needed a copy of my driver's license! WTF?

I might consider another game from Blizzard in future if they ever manage to implement a level of DRM that doesn't inconvenience me, their customer, quite so much with poorer gameplay and stupid bureaucracy. I tossed Diablo 3 in the trash, sent an e-mail explaining why, and bought a better game (for less money) from their competitor.

Blizzard has done nothing to address what was wrong with Diablo 3 for this customer.

It's not random. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44637285)

It may look random, but it's not.

Diablo 3 does the same thing. They have multiple maps for a given area that get swapped out at the door, giving the illusion of a randomly generated map- until you encounter the same map twice. Then you realize it's all basically just bullshit. The expansion is no different, the only difference is that they've basically cut up the dungeon into multiple mini-maps and now they're swapping those out (randomly) with other static setups as you explore.

They're trying their damnedest to make it sound as if the engine is actually building the dungeons in realtime, totally procedurally- and that the entire thing really is random, but it isn't. The depth of their implementation is really, really weak and a lot of gamers are going to see through it and get bored with it fairly quickly.

IMHO; if they'd bothered to write a proper system that actually built dynamic procedural dungeons and then made them infinite going down (level wise)- the further you go, the harder the enemies get- that would have been cool. Then people would have an excuse to just play the damned game and get something different all the time, with an unknown amount of loot that only keeps getting better the longer you play that dungeon.

But that might make for a reasonably fun time wasting game, and Blizzard can't even pull that off these days.

Great (1)

SD-Arcadia (1146999) | about 8 months ago | (#44637401)

I love how "the items themselves are getting an overhaul to make for more interesting gameplay" is reserved to a for-pay expansion! "Interesting gameplay" as if it's a minor enhancement! Also, make no mistake, there will be 3 more expansions after this, each taking the level cap 10 points higher, till 99. You know, you gotta milk that cow!

Re:Great (2)

Urthas (2349644) | about 8 months ago | (#44638067)

Actually, there is supposed to be a major itemization patch before the expansion is released. They did the same thing prior to releasing LoD.

Freemium in disguise (2)

valkenar (307241) | about 8 months ago | (#44638209)

As long as Blizzard is making money off the auction house I'm not playing D3. I gave them the benefit and bought it once, but there's no way I'm falling for freemium-in-disguise again. I'd much rather pay a monthly fee and have the game actually be balanced correctly. D3 was fun for a while, and had some good innovations, but it also had some glaring flaws and the auction house alone would've overwhelmed any good qualities it had. When there's a profit motive to making the game worse, you can count on a mediocre-at-best product.

Yawn. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44638933)

Yeah I gotta say, as someone who's bought and played almost everything bliz ever made..... time for something new.

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