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New Drug Mimics the Beneficial Effects of Exercise

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the hide-it-in-a-brownie-and-americans-will-get-healthy dept.

Medicine 492

Zothecula writes "A drug known as SR9009, which is currently under development at The Scripps Research Institute, increases the level of metabolic activity in skeletal muscles of mice. Treated mice become lean, develop larger muscles and can run much longer distances simply by taking SR9009, which mimics the effects of aerobic exercise. If similar effects can be obtained in people, the reversal of obesity, metabolic syndrome, and perhaps Type-II diabetes might be the very welcome result."

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492 comments

The alternative (5, Insightful)

Major Ralph (2711189) | about a year ago | (#44634275)

Or you know, people could just go outside for a walk.

Re:The alternative (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634311)

How well has that worked so far?

Re:The alternative (0)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year ago | (#44634457)

How well has that worked so far?

Well, just take some BZ [wikipedia.org] with it, and you'll not have to worry about it...

Re:The alternative (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#44634613)

What does that have to do with anything?

Re:The alternative (4, Insightful)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about a year ago | (#44634327)

Easier said than done.

Re:The alternative (4, Funny)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year ago | (#44634459)

How about if I just change my facebook profile picture?

Re:The alternative (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634479)

fuck you fatass

Re:The alternative (5, Interesting)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#44634633)

Note to people in the future reading this, with healthy sexy bodies in spite of eating 25,000 calories a day of bleu cheese wrapped in burger wrapped in breadding, deep fried and dipped in cream cheese sauce: this is what we have to put up with.

Memes as offboard quasi-DNA guiding behavior, guiding social pecking orders and reproduction (of DNA and memes). "Fucking fatass" is more about raising the speaker in his mind's eye as to social status vis-a-vis the ladies, by putting down as defective behaviours you in the future are no longer are concerned with. Similar to "fucking heathen" might be to us.

Most people don't realize their brain is little more than the meme equivalent of the cellular chemicals doing DNA's bidding. How lucky you are, not having to deal with this, and only your ant overlords.

Re:The alternative (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634811)

"Fucking fatass" is more about raising the speaker in his mind's eye as to social status vis-a-vis the ladies, by putting down as defective behaviours you in the future are no longer are concerned with."

No, not really, it's just an insult.

But if you feel better about your fat ass by being in denial over the reason for the insult, go for it. Try christianity, I hear that's another good way to be in denial over the reasons for something happening.

Re:The alternative (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634671)

don't talk to your mother that way!

Re:The alternative (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634335)

Great idea for those of us that can't walk (7 year survivor of bone marrow cancer, taking 3 kinds of pain meds just to be able to walk the minimum distances required for work and living)...

Biking and swimming (only in heated pools) are my only kinds of exercise that I can do on a regular basis.

Re:The alternative (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634347)

Or you know, people could just go outside for a walk.

I'd rather do a few hours of overtime every week ... so I can afford to buy pills and avoid all that WORK.

Re:The alternative (4, Insightful)

roninmagus (721889) | about a year ago | (#44634365)

Ain't nobody got time for that. I say bring on the pills.

Re:The alternative (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#44634667)

Now, to just stay alive 5-10 more years and we're set.

Which we've been saying since the 1950s at least.

Re:The alternative (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634731)

Ain't nobody got time for that. I say bring on the pills.

And Big Pharma ain't got time for nobody being healthy either, so don't think for a second these pills are actually good for you. Where one revenue stream stops another one is engineered to start.

Exercise is a luxury in US culture (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634401)

When one MUST commute 45 minutes one way, work a ten hour day, commute another 45 minutes - traffic permitting, eat, do chores, etc .. getting proper exercise is challenging to say the least.

I'm a real fitness nut and I have to plan my day pretty carefully and set some strict limits on other people's demands on my time.

It's extremely difficult in technology since the culture is to live to work and live at work - if you're not constantly in front of the computer, then something is wrong with you.

Re:Exercise is a luxury in US culture (3, Insightful)

NatasRevol (731260) | about a year ago | (#44634453)

one MUST commute 45 minutes one way, work a ten hour day, commute another 45 minutes

No, just no.

Or you value your life very little.

Re:Exercise is a luxury in US culture (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634577)

Yes, just yes. There are a lot of us in this position, especially post-recession. In some professions, it was the only way to keep your job, as all the "job creators" got "more efficient," largely by laying off half the workforce and expecting the rest of us to pick up the slack at the same or lower pay.

Dropping the job that is slowly killing you in favor of something a bit more active, despite being a killer talking point, is often not an option in light of debt load, family, and other monetary demands.

Re:Exercise is a luxury in US culture (2, Insightful)

NatasRevol (731260) | about a year ago | (#44634665)

No.

Change jobs.

Change professions.

Change homes.

Change debt loads.

I've done all of those over the last decade to get to where I can bike to work in 10 minutes, sleep 8+ hours, have dinner with my family, and run around with the kids. It can be done. But only if you value your life outside of work a little more.

Re:Exercise is a luxury in US culture (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634835)

Oh, that's all? Change careers, move, declare bankruptcy, and generally screw over your entire adult life? And all you have to do to accomplish this is "value your life." If only more people had access to the wellspring of your knowledge!

Climbing Mount Everest can also "be done," but it requires more than a passing interest in mountains. You don't do anyone any favors by implying that your suggestions are trivial.

That's what I told them! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634629)

one MUST commute 45 minutes one way, work a ten hour day, commute another 45 minutes

No, just no.

Or you value your life very little.

I've been unemployed for several years now and I DEMAND that I have a 40 hour week - no more. Deadlines missed?!

Well, your deadline was obviously unreasonable. Missed deadlines are ALWAYS management's fault!

That's what I said in interviews when I used to get them.

Re:That's what I told them! (0)

NatasRevol (731260) | about a year ago | (#44634739)

Here's an idea.

Get a job/profession/career that doesn't have such ridiculous deadlines.

Re:The alternative (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634435)

How about those who can't? Muscle wasting is a major problem that complicates a variety of injuries and conditions, this could be a breakthrough for many people just wanting to live with more mobility and less pain.

But then I guess that doesn't occur to the blinkered "fuck you" generation.

Re:The alternative (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634499)

Nah... I'll take that instead!

Re:The alternative (1)

0racle (667029) | about a year ago | (#44634527)

And for those that can't? Or those that want to get healthy and can't exercise enough yet?

not when you are on the 80 hour work week (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year ago | (#44634565)

get back to your desk

Re:The alternative (1)

gagol (583737) | about a year ago | (#44634865)

Or stay away from HFCS... but the trend is to consume more, not consume smart.

I call bullshit. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634277)

I'm not even going to read the study. The premise is too stupid to warrant it.

Re:I call bullshit. (4, Funny)

sycodon (149926) | about a year ago | (#44634319)

Soon, there will be two kinds of nerds: Those on SR9009 and those they beat up.

Re:I call bullshit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634387)

It must be comforting to "know" that a study must be false by virtue of the fact that you disagree with its conclusion.

Re:I call bullshit. (4, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year ago | (#44634487)

It must be comforting to "know" that a study must be false by virtue of the fact that you disagree with its conclusion.

Why not? It works for politics.

Re:I call bullshit. (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#44634747)

How much you wanna bet it's more about having "cheaters" cutting into the supply of hot ladies he's exercised so hard to get?

Re:I call bullshit. (5, Insightful)

invid (163714) | about a year ago | (#44634533)

Exercise doesn't make you healthy, it's your body's response to exercise that makes you healthy. Of course it can be simulated.

This can't end well (4, Insightful)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year ago | (#44634307)

If it seems too good to be true...

Re:This can't end well (2, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year ago | (#44634493)

If it seems too good to be true...

Wait until you see the side effects...

Re:This can't end well (4, Funny)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year ago | (#44634513)

I think "getting laid" will be in there somewhere so I welcome the extra eyeball or two...

Re:This can't end well (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | about a year ago | (#44634777)

Do you get to choose the gender(s) of the person(people) you get laid with (by)? Or do you not really care?

Re:This can't end well (4, Funny)

Russ1642 (1087959) | about a year ago | (#44634661)

Screw the side effects. Add it to the water supply.

Re:This can't end well (-1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year ago | (#44634645)

Good? A "go ahead and be a fat lazy asshole" pill?

Good for the welfare generation, maybe. Entitled little shits who want everything but don't want to put in the work.

Re:This can't end well (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634815)

Good for anybody that wants to do things with their life. If I don't have to spend time on aerobic exercise, it means that I can spend it on working, or being with my family, or on doing more strength exercise.

Anybody that finds aerobic exercise rewarding can still do it. The rest of us can spend the time on more productive things.

SR9009 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634313)

I prefer a drug known as SR388, which allows me to latch onto people's faces and drain their energy.

Speculation (5, Insightful)

Beryllium Sphere(tm) (193358) | about a year ago | (#44634317)

Biology being what it is, it's reasonable to think that the health benefits of exercise are a multi-factor phenomenon and that any one chemical will deliver fewer benefits than the real thing.

Then the odds are that the drug won't be bio-equivalent to the chemical signals released by real exercise and will have side effects as a result.

Re:Speculation (5, Insightful)

mangu (126918) | about a year ago | (#44634587)

Or it could also be the exact opposite, perhaps it will give us the benefits of exercise without the downsides, such as the increased wear and tear in the body that exercise causes.

Needs a catchier name (5, Funny)

senorpoco (1396603) | about a year ago | (#44634321)

XtremeShred, Fatbusterone, Buffadrine2000. Additionally they should only market it using annoying popup ads and late night television.

Re:Needs a catchier name (1)

eudas (192703) | about a year ago | (#44634357)

Re:Needs a catchier name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634371)

SR-388?

Re:Needs a catchier name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634485)

PowerThirst.

Seriously. Look it up on the tubes.

Re:Needs a catchier name (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year ago | (#44634825)

THIS! [youtube.com] XD

SUPER CRACK (1)

SpaceManFlip (2720507) | about a year ago | (#44634543)

It be makin' yo ass go real fast! WHOOOO YEAH!

WOOT my face is so muscular now! O yea bustin' walnuts with my nostrils and shit!

The End (1)

CasualFriday (1804992) | about a year ago | (#44634341)

So this is how the population explodes, eh? Well it was going to happen somehow.

Side effects. (5, Funny)

wcrowe (94389) | about a year ago | (#44634349)

I will probably work great... except for the anal leakage.

Re:Side effects. (4, Funny)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year ago | (#44634509)

I will probably work great... except for the anal leakage.

Sorry, that side effect is patented by Olestra. You need to find another one.

Re:Side effects. (1)

assertation (1255714) | about a year ago | (#44634769)

I can see adult diapers becoming fashionable among celebrities now.

Skeptic (1)

grasshoppa (657393) | about a year ago | (#44634355)

I'm just going to file this in the "Deeply suspicious" file, shall I?

But you all try it, let me know how it goes.

Re:Skeptic (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#44634531)

But you all try it, let me know how it goes.

No, they'll stick with their usual MO -- do minimal testing, say there's no evidence to suggest it's harmful, get it approved, and wait until people have been using it to 'discover' side-effects.

In all probability, they will have fudged their numbers to have excluded people with those effects as outliers.

That's how they've been doing it for years.

Such optimism in the summary (1)

Impish (669369) | about a year ago | (#44634367)

I love the way the summary talks about the diseases this could help fix.

You know what the Scripps Ranch business types are really thinking: "OMG, we are going to *own* the diet industry!" cha-ching!

Re:Such optimism in the summary (1)

tnk1 (899206) | about a year ago | (#44634651)

If this actually did something medically beneficial, I don't see why they shouldn't also use it for the diet industry and make a profit on it too.

The problem is, like many drugs, there's going to be side effects. There's a very slight chance it won't, but something like this is very likely to have serious health effects unless they got incredibly lucky. Screwing with metabolism is not a simple process. Needless to say, this is not something I would use without both trials, and a number of early adopters to watch their reaction.

However, if there weren't side effects, then I don't see the issue. There are other reasons to go outside than to stay fit. I don't see why you have to force people into one mode of staying fit, if you don't actually need it. It's like people who insist on doing things the hard way because that's the way they've always been done. If I'm fit and I don't have to sit in a gym for three hours a day, I'd say that I could use that time much more productively, and I don't even mean necessarily making money, I mean learning things or working on personal projects.

Would probably be outlawed... (5, Insightful)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#44634377)

Steroids, contrary to the public perception, can be used responsibly and with few health consequences, especially by men, to more easily lose fat and gain muscle.

It's not quite a free lunch, you can't sit on your couch and become Ronnie Coleman, but it will accelerate things.

Oops, sorry. Because we must protect the "integrity" of sports (and the money they bring in) we decided Steroids should be scheduled drugs

They'd probably do the same thing if something like this actually worked.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (0)

Nos. (179609) | about a year ago | (#44634447)

Yes, it's terrible to think that professional sports players should actually be rewarded for training and talent rather than drugs.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (2)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about a year ago | (#44634529)

Yes, it's terrible to think that professional sports players should actually be rewarded for training and talent rather than drugs.

except the roids only work if you use them in combination with training and have tallent. roids don't magically make you have the coordination to catch the baseball or throw a football.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634555)

The rest of us shouldn't be punished for someone else's lack of self-control either.

Drug abuse is ultimately a self correcting problem.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (2)

pla (258480) | about a year ago | (#44634675)

Yes, it's terrible to think that professional sports players should actually be rewarded for training and talent rather than drugs.

You mean, like the old timers? Good ol' Babe Ruth, he didn't need any steroids! Oh, wait [npr.org] , yes he did (ctrl-F "sheep's testicles").

Let 'em use whatever the hell they want, and get the FDA the hell out of moralizing our biological mediocrity.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634857)

Rewarded for random genetic gifts rather than for investing the skills to learn when to apply drugs, you mean?

I've got my arguments against allowing drugs in sports - primarily, that they tend to push the sport on so much that everybody in the sport would effectively be forced to use it, and they have side effects - but "reward for talent" (== won the genetic lottery) isn't one of them.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (3, Insightful)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year ago | (#44634591)

can be used responsibly and with few health consequences

Other than these....... [wikipedia.org]

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year ago | (#44634877)

I think the gynecomastia (growth of moobs) and testicular atrophy (tiny, shrivelled balls) should be highlighted.

Re:Would probably be outlawed... (2)

Applekid (993327) | about a year ago | (#44634701)

Steroids, contrary to the public perception, can be used responsibly and with few health consequences, especially by men, to more easily lose fat and gain muscle.

It's not quite a free lunch, you can't sit on your couch and become Ronnie Coleman, but it will accelerate things.

Oops, sorry. Because we must protect the "integrity" of sports (and the money they bring in) we decided Steroids should be scheduled drugs

They'd probably do the same thing if something like this actually worked.

Considering all the pressure on athletes to break records, I would expect a Juice League to earn much more than their non-steroid counterpart, as it would be more exciting for the fans.

This one won't work either (1)

davidannis (939047) | about a year ago | (#44634385)

What makes the fancy scientists think that this will be any different? I've given my wife 5,000 excuses for not going to the gym. They never work.

Ethyl-3-(((4-chlorobenzyl)((5-nitrothiophen-2-yl)m (5, Interesting)

MRe_nl (306212) | about a year ago | (#44634391)

I always thought exercise mimicked the beneficial effects of drugs.

Re:Ethyl-3-(((4-chlorobenzyl)((5-nitrothiophen-2-y (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634753)

ROFLMAO. Best. Post. Ever.

Oops (1)

Bovius (1243040) | about a year ago | (#44634393)

I guess that money I shelled out for an exercise bike to slouch on while I watch Food Network shows was wasted, huh?

Re:Oops (4, Funny)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | about a year ago | (#44634589)

I guess that money I shelled out for an exercise bike to slouch on while I watch Food Network shows was wasted, huh?

Turn your exercise bike to face away from the TV, turn on Fox and Friends and pretend they're chasing you. Those extra pounds will come off in no time. :-)

[ Ahhhhh... Steve Doocy is right behind me .... Must... peddle... faster... ]

Re:Oops (3, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | about a year ago | (#44634733)

Or, depending on your politics, try MSNBC: "Rachel Maddow is after me! Peddle for your life!"

Re:Oops (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#44634669)

I guess that money I shelled out for an exercise bike to slouch on while I watch Food Network shows was wasted, huh?

With no evidence to support this whatsoever ... I'll say 90-95% of all home exercise equipment eventually becomes a place to stack clothes or something like that. Probably within the first 3-6 months.

Captain America? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634397)

About 70 years late, still good :)

Yeah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634437)

I don't think the curing of disease will be what interests people in such a pill

Make it a beer additive (5, Funny)

rtgree01 (457275) | about a year ago | (#44634451)

That way I can work on my 6-pack

Re:Make it a beer additive (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#44634713)

That way I can work on my 6-pack

Bah, why have a six pack when you can have an entire keg? ;-)

Impacts all muscles (5, Insightful)

crow (16139) | about a year ago | (#44634461)

A drug that tricks the body to respond as if it has been exercising will work on all muscles. Real exercise only works on the muscles that you use. Overuse of this drug would be expected to cause muscle growth where you don't want it. Bulk up those facial muscles.

Sure, in limited cases, this could be great. I'm thinking of cases where people can't exercise, using this in low doses to reduce the length of rehabilitation. Stuck in bed for a month or two due to a car accident? This is for you.

Of course, if it works, it will be abused. Need to get that extra edge for the Tour de France?

Re:Impacts all muscles (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634683)

Sounds like something perfect for extended periods of space flight.

Better living through alchemy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634465)

Hmmm....now if I can combine that with my viagra and rogain...

How about a drug that cures laziness? (4, Funny)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about a year ago | (#44634469)

It would have the same beneficial effects of SR9009 plus the laundry would always be done.

I want (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634473)

Send me a free sample to ....

Um, er, um, muscles, what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634477)

You do all realize that muscles are not the whole story? You need parallel development of capillaries, veins, ligaments, joints, lungs, and bones.

If it doesn't do those, you might end up with huge muscles that tear away from their connections the first time you exert them.

Re:Um, er, um, muscles, what? (1)

Applekid (993327) | about a year ago | (#44634729)

You do all realize that muscles are not the whole story? You need parallel development of capillaries, veins, ligaments, joints, lungs, and bones.

If it doesn't do those, you might end up with huge muscles that tear away from their connections the first time you exert them.

For the average person, muscles are just there to look good, not actually to climb mountains or run farther.

Re:Um, er, um, muscles, what? (1)

tnk1 (899206) | about a year ago | (#44634827)

The process is probably slow enough to allow the rest of the body to adapt. After all, when you exercise, you are just releasing other, natural chemicals to initiate the same process. If you can simply control the release of those chemicals consciously, there is no reason that the effect needs to be different than the results of exercise. In fact, you might well be able to build muscle with less risk of injury from exertion.

I would say the real danger here is that conscious control is not going to be precise and well designed as the body's natural feedback process which might cause chronic issues to appear from uneven development. You could have some of the issues you describe, although I'd expect that they would be significantly less dramatic than muscles ripping themselves apart like that.

Of course, if people like those abusing steroids get their hands on this and abuse the heck out of it, there could be some very... bad... effects.

Welcome to america... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634483)

Do you want an exercise-pill with your supersized menu?

Drumroll... (3, Funny)

JeanCroix (99825) | about a year ago | (#44634489)

..And I hear ARod is already being investigated for it.

Gravity pills (4, Informative)

steveha (103154) | about a year ago | (#44634501)

One of the problems facing astronauts: long periods of microgravity cause bone and muscle loss [howstuffworks.com] . I've read science fiction stories where people had to take pills to maintain their bones and muscles; they called them "gravity pills".

If this drug really works, I'm wondering if the astronauts in the space station, future Mars missions, etc. might wind up taking it drug routinely.

Probably a Mars mission will need to have some sort of rotating crew module to produce a gravity-like acceleration [wikipedia.org] , as it will likely require at least seven months [wikipedia.org] for the trip.

Re:Gravity pills (1)

crow (16139) | about a year ago | (#44634625)

I've heard that most of the muscle and bone loss in space has been due to astronauts failing to keep up with exercise programs while in space, so the problem isn't as bad as it is perceived to be. Still, you're probably correct that something like this would still be useful for the space program.

Re:Gravity pills (1)

Maury Markowitz (452832) | about a year ago | (#44634763)

> astronauts failing to keep up with exercise programs

This is absolutely not true.

Unexpected consequences (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634507)

If this drug works and becomes socially accepted, maybe in a few years Lance Armstrong will get his Tour the France titles back. Gyms will be out of business unless they become libraries.

Drugs are bad mmmkay? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634511)

that said I can't wait to try it

Might not work for healthy people (5, Insightful)

erice (13380) | about a year ago | (#44634595)

From TFA:

Previous studies on mice lacking Rev-ErbA showed decreased skeletal muscles, metabolic rate, and running capacity. Such mice appeared fated by their genetics to live as couch potatoes.

When Burris' group administered SR9009 to these mice to activate the Rev-Erb protein, the results were remarkable. The metabolic rate in the skeletal muscles of the mice increased significantly. The treated mice were not allowed to exercise, but despite this they developed the ability to run about 50 percent further before being stopped by exhaustion.

So they created some broken mice and then treated them with a drug that reversed what they broke. And, what do you know? The effects were reversed too.

I'd like to see a followup on unmodified mice to see if they also benefit. If Rev-ErbA is already present and active at normal levels, the drug may not do anything.

Re:Might not work for healthy people (1)

Maury Markowitz (452832) | about a year ago | (#44634737)

> I'd like to see a followup on unmodified mice to see if they also benefit

Bingo!

sex pills (2)

csumpi (2258986) | about a year ago | (#44634627)

All we need now is just a sex pill. Then we can sit on the sofa all day updating our facebook status, while having all our needs satisfied popping pills.

Go humans!

What could go wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44634715)

Steve Rogers is over 9000.

What could possibly go wrong? (1)

Maury Markowitz (452832) | about a year ago | (#44634717)

Oh, right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenfluramine/phentermine

Paging Stan Lee? (1)

jcr (53032) | about a year ago | (#44634787)

I swear this sounds just like a Marvel Comics hero origin story...

-jcr

Hmmm ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#44634789)

Sounds like how I've heard meth described. I've also heard it's awesome for weight loss too.

Do the mice feel the need to take apart their exercise wheel?

Promising Mice Test != Great New Discovery .. yet (1)

DigitalSorceress (156609) | about a year ago | (#44634791)

It's great they've had promising tests in mice, but journalists always go on to make some fabulous claim for how the future wonder cure/thing is right around the corner.

Yes, this is interesting, and maybe there is some good science/medicine that will come out of it - but we're FAR down the road from an exercise pill. I know the article isn't saying it's right around the corner either but it just feels like a lot of speculation and hyperbole at this point.

I know, I know - total Debbie Downer - sorry.

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