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Bradley Manning Wants To Live As a Woman

timothy posted about a year ago | from the symbolic-of-our-struggle-against-oppression dept.

The Military 784

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Reuters reports that Bradley Manning, the U.S. soldier sentenced to 35 years in military prison for the biggest breach of classified documents in the nation's history, says he is female and wants to live as a woman named Chelsea. 'As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me. I am Chelsea Manning, I am a female,' Manning, 25, said in the statement read by anchorwoman Savannah Guthrie on NBC News' "Today" show. 'Given the way that I feel and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible,' Manning said. 'I also request that starting today you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun.' A psychiatrist, Navy Reserve Captain David Moulton, testified during Manning's trial that Manning suffered from gender dysphoria, or wanting to be the opposite sex, as well as narcissism and obsessive-compulsive disorder."

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Hormone therapy? (5, Interesting)

brian0918 (638904) | about a year ago | (#44642147)

Will they really provide that in prison?

Re:Hormone therapy? (0, Flamebait)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#44642157)

yep, just not officially
normally its the other prisoners who pump you full of their own hormones

Re:Hormone therapy? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642315)

Oh look - a prison rape joke - and modded up no less.

How sad is it that prison rape and rape in general is such a joke in the US that one of the first comments on any forum when somebody talks about prisoner well-being is that they not drop the soap, because HA-HA some maleficent goon might RAPE them?

Shocking as it may be to you, Alen, rape is not a part of prisoner reformation standards, gender dysphoria is a real thing, and jokes about forced sex aren't all that funny.

Re:Hormone therapy? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642425)

The only thing funnier than prison rape is when a pedophile gets shanked in prison.

Re:Hormone therapy? (4, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44642503)

Yes because the 8th amendment is an inconvenient obstacle for official justice. Just a reminder that your position puts you on the side of a murderer.

Re:Hormone therapy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642473)

if he had gender dysphoria he was in the wrong job in the first place

Re:Hormone therapy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642523)

Yes they are I think you just,DROPPED THE SOAP too many times.

Re:Hormone therapy? (0, Troll)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#44642563)

Americans aren't a civilized people, so you can't really hold them to first-world standards.

Re:Hormone therapy? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642319)

HAHAHA

Prison rape is funny

HAHAHA

Re:Hormone therapy? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642375)

Modded +1 gay ...

Re: Hormone therapy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642181)

Are you not watching Orange is the New Black?

Re: Hormone therapy? (1)

realityimpaired (1668397) | about a year ago | (#44642361)

Theoretically requires a Netflix subscription, so possibly not.

But to answer the question he asked more seriously... probably not going to get hormone therapy in a US prison. Can apply for special dispensation or house arrest, where such medical care would be possible, but, especially considering that Manning hasn't started taking HRT yet (so the current status quo doesn't pose a medical/health risk), it's very unlikely that Manning will be given that kind of treatment in the US penal system.

Re:Hormone therapy? (1, Informative)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about a year ago | (#44642377)

No. But if they keep you in solitary confinement long enough, torture you, taunt you, threaten you, fuck with your head, and then promise you 35 more years of the same, generally turning you into a raving lunatic (which suits their purposes perfectly)--it is just the kind of crazy shit you'll ask for.

Re:Hormone therapy? (4, Informative)

madhatter256 (443326) | about a year ago | (#44642457)

Yes. So as to avoid cruel and unusual punishment at a constitutional level, prisons have to provide adequate health care. Hell, it's worth it, you can get free chemo therapy, heart surgery, etc. Just recently, a judge struck down a law in Wisconsin that prohibited hormone therapy for inmates because it was unconstitutional.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/89751122.html [todaystmj4.com]

Re:Hormone therapy? (0, Flamebait)

sycodon (149926) | about a year ago | (#44642485)

There has been court fights over stuff like this. A few have won I think. You can be sure that some nutcase judge will call it a "human right". and order it be done.

Re:Hormone therapy? (4, Informative)

Salgak1 (20136) | about a year ago | (#44642521)

No. The Armed Forces do not provide Gender Reassignment therapy or surgery. For at least the next 7 or so years, he/she's S.O.L. And then he/she's going to have to find a way to pay for it: it's not cheap (I have a friend who went f->m ) and he/she's going to have problems getting a job with a Dishonorable Discharge. . .

Re:Hormone therapy? (1)

brian0918 (638904) | about a year ago | (#44642545)

Answering my own question [zerohedge.com] :

"U.S. Army says it does not provide hormones or sex-reassignment surgery after Wikileaks convict Bradley Manning says he wants to live as a woman"

Re:Hormone therapy? (1)

F.Minusia (748125) | about a year ago | (#44642595)

Yes, they are supposed to provide all of HRT, SRS, laser sessions. There is some precedent.

He wants to live as a woman, big deal. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642155)

So do many Slashdotters and yet who are we to judge?

And this is relevant how...? (4, Insightful)

skovnymfe (1671822) | about a year ago | (#44642163)

No offense to transpeople, but why is this on Slashdot? I don't give a fuck if he wants to be a man or a woman in jail.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (4, Insightful)

Zaldarr (2469168) | about a year ago | (#44642237)

Because /. has been going down the tubes for years.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#44642301)

You mean the fallopian ones? Does that mean that /. is not an abortion?

Re:And this is relevant how...? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#44642527)

Does that mean that /. is not an abortion?

No, just an abomination. ;-)

Re:And this is relevant how...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642369)

I concur.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (2)

Salgak1 (20136) | about a year ago | (#44642555)

Well, that's only appropriate, as Sen. Ted Stevens tells us, since the Internet is an entire SERIES of tubes. . .

Re:And this is relevant how...? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642261)

If she wants to be a man or woman, you insensitive clod!

Re:And this is relevant how...? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642325)

He will always be a he no matter what psychological issues he has to deal with...

Re:And this is relevant how...? (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#44642453)

Says someone with bigger issues.

Why do you care? The fact that you do says something about you.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642341)

It's relevant because he's also the person who recently apologized for serving the country (rather than the government). Common sense tells me that while there's nothing immoral or illogical about being gay, a man who claims he's actually a woman (or undergoes surgery in an attempt to change the unchangeable) has at least a few screws loose.

In other words, his much-touted apology (and what it might have stood for) was meaningless.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (1)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#44642387)

Common sense tells me that it would be obtuse to define gender identity in terms of sex organs.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642489)

So 99.99% of humanity throughout space and time is obtuse.
Yes, you and Chelsea Manning (sounds like a porn-star name) are so much more special than the obtuse human race.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (2, Insightful)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#44642525)

Statistic pulled out of ass - check.
Non sequitur - check.
lol, bigots.

I struggle to identify an argument, but I think you're saying:

1. 99.99% of people identify entirely as a gender which accords somehow with the sex organs they were born with - citation please.

2. Correlation is causation - citation please.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (5, Interesting)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#44642345)

No offence to you, but I don't give a fuck about your opinion. And normally I wouldn't say it, but since you seem to think it's important to tell everyone what you don't care about...

I find Manning's actions and any information about her history which would go toward explaining them both interesting and important. People do not act in a vacuum.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642373)

No offense to transpeople, but why is this on Slashdot? I don't give a fuck if he wants to be a man or a woman in jail.

This is not a story that most /.ers want to read about, but the editor correctly realized that had there been a human interest story that put Manning (or Snowden, or Swartz) in a surprising but flattering light then you know that it would've been up here.

I haven't paid much attention to the Manning case, but it seems to me that Swartz had personal issues that went beyond his legal problems and disagreement with the journal publishers' consortium. Almost like he was looking for a way out.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642403)

Slashdot is now run by ultra-liberals, and they are actively pushing an agenda now. It's no longer just geek related news.

Re:And this is relevant how...? (1)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#44642433)

homosexual judeomasonic conspiracy o nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Re:And this is relevant how...? (1)

Salgak1 (20136) | about a year ago | (#44642603)

You forgot to add Anti-Microsoft (although, that's not a conspiracy, it's just good sense. . . )

Re:And this is relevant how...? (5, Insightful)

lxs (131946) | about a year ago | (#44642583)

In one sentence: Bradley was our hero. Now Chelsea is our hero.

It's a story that many of us have been following since the beginning. For those among us that are not robots the lives of the people involved are at least of passing interest to us. In my opinion Manning has done a great thing. He/she deserves better than being relegated to obscurity the moment the story is over.

WTF (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642165)

Didn't see this one coming.

Robert Anton Wilson (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642169)

is SO clearly behind this.

Me too. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642171)

As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me. I am Anonymous Cowardess, I am a female.

OK (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642189)

After what he... er, she's done for her country, I'll call her the damn Queen of England if it makes her happy.

Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (0)

vivaoporto (1064484) | about a year ago | (#44642195)

Sounds like they thoroughly broke him. First apologizing and then this. Doesn't look like he is going for insanity (trial is over), seems like he got insane for his time in solitary.

Not saying that because he self identifies as a woman (something that happens to some people naturally) but because of the timing of the whole matter.

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (2)

rwise2112 (648849) | about a year ago | (#44642349)

Sounds like they thoroughly broke him. First apologizing and then this. Doesn't look like he is going for insanity (trial is over), seems like he got insane for his time in solitary. Not saying that because he self identifies as a woman (something that happens to some people naturally) but because of the timing of the whole matter.

This was from before. His defense (I assume) even released photos of him in a wig and lipstick.

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#44642365)

"Timing" of what? You mean, the thing that's been going on for five years or more for him?

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (5, Insightful)

eqisow (877574) | about a year ago | (#44642379)

I do believe he was struggling with gender identity issues before this whole ordeal.

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (1)

QilessQi (2044624) | about a year ago | (#44642401)

The issue was supposedly raised during the trial itself, but for all we know (s)he has felt this way for years (as said in the article) and just kept it VERY tightly under wraps because of the demands of a military career. Now that motivation is somewhat moot.

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642449)

As somebody who's had a couple girlfriends who were "fag hags," I speak with authority when I share my understanding of gaykind with you:

Gays are catty and can be belligerent, seeming to look for a fight, but only because they have internalized the tension and release of the fight ultimately leading to their submission. Unlike women in a similar situation, during an argument gays actually break down much more quickly than a determined woman, because they're easy and more submissive. They don't "get broken" by the argument, they don't put up much of a fight during the argument because they were broken long ago, maybe even hormonally before they were born.

In this case, Bradley Manning is behaving as expected. His history of arguing with superiors and comrades, and now the apology and admission. Tension, and release. Which is actually a big disappointment for myself and others who supported him - we were mislead into thinking that he'd put up a bigger fight. Sadly, the whole spectacle was just another textbook case of homosexual male psychopathology with respect to conflict. Brad has made a mockery of all his supporters. Let's hope Snowden doesn't do the same!

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642501)

There! Are! Four! Lights!

Re:Sounds like they thoroughly broke him (4, Informative)

TheCarp (96830) | about a year ago | (#44642551)

All accounts I have seen indicate that he was starting to feel this way long before any of this happened. I have some Tranny friends (will be camping with them this weekend in fact) and it isn't something one just suddenly one day decide, or that people go crazy and decide to do....its usually accompanied by lifelong feelings of not really being "right".

Hell, I met one woman who lived as a man for years, never felt right, transitioned, and not till the age of about 50 did doctors find some small ovaries inside her. Had apparently really been part woman the whole time, never knew it.

This transition creates an odd conflict. Bradley Manning is a household name. He leaked secrets, he is either a hero of villian. He is a symbol.

Who is Chelsea Manning? She is just a woman going to jail. Nobody knows her. She is not a household name, not a symbol.

Maybe that works out in her favor in the long run? I don't really know, it is a bit of a toss up.... but we have been talking about the plight of Bradley Manning so long, I wonder that maybe this is bad timing, but, maybe there is no good timing.

They are going to love him in prison (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642197)

His mangina is going to get a workout in Leavenworth.

Apologies to Chelsea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642199)

Looks like an update to the title is in order.

Popcorn (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642201)

Getting popcorn - I fully expect this discussion to be mature and informative.

Insane plea (1, Funny)

rolfwind (528248) | about a year ago | (#44642209)

Here we come.

Or the torture (solitary confinement) really got to him.

Third possibility, 35 years in the brig, he wants to go to woman's prison and be able to bang some chicks.

Re:Insane plea (1)

crazyfrenchmen (104386) | about a year ago | (#44642289)

definitively 3rd option, 35 years in a women prison....

No, because it's not insanity (5, Informative)

QilessQi (2044624) | about a year ago | (#44642329)

Self-identifying as a woman is not a sign of insanity. There are quite a number of transgendered people in the world today, from young to old, pre-op or post-op, leading perfectly normal lives.

While we used to refer to the condition as Gender Identity Disorder in the DSM-IV, it was replaced with Gender Dysphoria in the DSM-V because we now don't think of it as a disorder. In fact, the general "treatment" is not to make the mind match the body, but to make the body match the mind. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder [wikipedia.org] .

Re:No, because it's not insanity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642561)

This is the consequence of basing psychological treatment not on objective science, but on people's feelings.

Re:Insane plea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642445)

The second option shows that you definitely DID NOT read the article linked in the post:
"His lawyers had argued the former Army intelligence analyst suffered a sexual identity crisis when he leaked the files while serving in Iraq in 2009 and 2010."
Bradley was already trans BEFORE all this happened.

Ah but of course it is unthinkable that now that being a soldier is out of discussion, Bradley decided at least to express her identity, right?

Damn transophobes. If you don't care enough to learn how trans people come to their decisions, at least avoid writing bullshit just because you have a keyboard to wiggle your fingers on.

Thanks.

Re:Insane plea (1)

rolfwind (528248) | about a year ago | (#44642481)

I'm on slashdot, I don't read articles, I absorb them through osmosis.

4th option (-1, Troll)

schneidafunk (795759) | about a year ago | (#44642493)

(S)He wants to get banged as a chick in prison.

Re:Insane plea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642579)

This isn't actually news. She wanted to transition even before jail. The news is that she's going to use a female name and pronouns (during the case she asked that her supporters continued use of her former name and male pronouns) and that her name will be Chelsea, not Breanna.

Is this a joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642233)

Is this a joke?

Finally (1)

M0j0_j0j0 (1250800) | about a year ago | (#44642239)

An American Mata Hari. had to be the hard way!

He's not a woman (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642243)

He will never be a woman unless they can go in at the cellular level and change his Y chromosomes to X chromosomes.

Sex is biologically determined. It is not a social construct. To pretend otherwise is to ignore biological science for the sake of political correctness.

Re:He's not a woman (2)

eqisow (877574) | about a year ago | (#44642353)

The idea is that sex and gender are not the same thing - one is, as you said, biological, and the other is psychological. Yes, in the end it's all biology, but you can't argue that gender dysphoria is not a real phenomenon. So, the question you have to ask, is what's the best way to treat this condition? Is it to say, "Deal with it, you were born this, you are this," or, is it to give them therapy and open the door to procedures that do, in fact, seem to lessen the psychological suffering of such individuals?

Re:He's not a woman (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642585)

Yeah, let's see if we can change all the black people to white. It'll end their suffering, right? Why don't we treat people to live in the real world, and be who they are, instead of something else?

Re: He's not a woman (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642515)

Tell that to androgen insensitive women who are xy.
You are no doctor nor a judge on the human condition.

What torture did they administer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642249)

What the hell did the MPs do to him?

Another possibility (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642253)

"A psychiatrist, Navy Reserve Captain David Moulton, testified during Manning's trial that Manning suffered from gender dysphoria, or wanting to be the opposite sex, as well as narcissism and obsessive-compulsive disorder."

Or maybe they drugged him up? Snuck something in his food?

Good for her! (2)

Noxal (816780) | about a year ago | (#44642263)

As a G in the LGBT community, genuinely, I wish Chelsea as safe a transition as possible in those conditions. Probably won't be easy and it sucks that there will be a LOT of negativity thrown her way.

Re:Good for her! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642421)

As a G in the LGBT community, genuinely, I wish Chelsea as safe a transition as possible in those conditions. Probably won't be easy and it sucks that there will be a LOT of negativity thrown her way.

As an American Citizen who is disgusted by the fact that a whiny, self-absorbed freak is not being executed for treasonous behavior that could have and may still needlessly cause a war somewhere, I must disagree. Manning deserves no sympathy. His leak wasn't motivated by any grand moral principle, just his own peevishness. If he disagreed with the military's personnel policies, then he shouldn't have signed up in the first place. He is a detestable person.

Propaganda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642275)

I didn't realize slashdot was in the business of character assassination. On the day of his sentencing, of course. Why is this even here?

Re:Propaganda? (1)

Gavagai80 (1275204) | about a year ago | (#44642415)

Says something about you that you consider it character assassination to discuss someone's [already known] transgender desires.

Re:Propaganda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642507)

Didn't you get the memo? You aren't allowed to refer to weirdos wanting to get their junk hacked off in any way that is negative. It's not character assassination. It's a celebration of his choice to be who he really wants to be! His criminal actions pale next to his decision to live his life as he sees fit.

Too late sweetie (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642279)

You'll never be as voluptuous and sensual as the brazilian trannies that start in childhood.

I want stuff too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642285)

As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me. I am Lazy Coward, I am not working overtime. Given the way that I feel and have felt since childhood, I want to switch to a 4 day, 2 hour per day work schedule as soon as possible. I also request that starting today you stop calling me outside of work and allow me to work in an office with no management.

A public announcement on national TV. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642295)

You gotta admit this guy had balls.

Re:A public announcement on national TV. (4, Funny)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#44642549)

Much to his distress.

Huh. (0)

meta-monkey (321000) | about a year ago | (#44642297)

Do you ever get the feeling we're all just getting trolled? Trolled so, so very hard?

Why is this on Slashdot? (4, Insightful)

schwit1 (797399) | about a year ago | (#44642307)

Who cares if he wants to live as a woman, a man or a chipmonk?

This inane crap belongs on Digg not here.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (1)

somersault (912633) | about a year ago | (#44642417)

And hat difference would it even make when you're in prison? Unless he really expects to be put in a women's prison.

*ahem*smear*ahem* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642321)

n/c

If only this were Snowden (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642347)

There would be limitless fodder for "In Soviet Russia ..." quips

Imma call him Bradley (3, Funny)

Russ1642 (1087959) | about a year ago | (#44642359)

Saul: A man has the right to change his name to vatever he vants to change it to. And if a man vants to be called Chelsea, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his vishes, and call the man Chelsea!
Morris: His mamma call him Bradley, imma call him Bradley.
Saul: Then you're a putz. All of you are putzes. They should change the sign outside from My-T-Sharp to 'ze Three Putzes.

Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642367)

It is unfortunate that it had to come under such circumstances, but given that they have taken your freedom away, at least you can be the person you are. Congratulations Chelsea.

(For the commenters who feel this is a result of the solitary - he was experiencing dysphoria prior to the whole affair. Their are photos of him presenting female from prior to the Wikileaks scandal)

what this means for slashdot. (1)

nimbius (983462) | about a year ago | (#44642385)

UPDATE Slashdot.headline SET headline_txt=REPLACE(headline_txt, '/Bradley\ Manning', 'Chelsea\ Manning ') where headline_author != 'cmdrtaco';

and i guess on a personal level, i have to start saying, "a prime example of a capitalist dictatorship exercising its ability to persecute political prisoners is the incarceration of Chelsea Manning"

First rule of espionage (1, Insightful)

Thumper_SVX (239525) | about a year ago | (#44642393)

Yeah, this was a bad idea. Unfortunately choosing to make such a public statement on this will basically give the highly vocal Conservatives some more ammunition to use against him, basically in their eyes invalidating the stuff she leaked. While we all know that it's got absolutely nothing to do with anything, that's never stopped the highly vocal Conservative minority from making a big deal of this stuff.

The same people who were screaming for him to be hanged will now feel smug in their self-righteousness and will start finding a way to correlate this gender change with an ability and desire to fabricate the leaked information. This will then invalidate this entire process in the eyes of these people... and believe me they make a lot of noise.

Great... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642419)

... distraction bro.

www.ilgiweb.com (-1, Troll)

ukashdes (3027415) | about a year ago | (#44642429)

Kendinize ait bir web siteniz olsun istiyor ve bunun için ne yapacanz bilmiyorsanz www.ilgiweb.com [ilgiweb.com] adresi sizlere yardmc olacaktr. Uzun süredir kalitesi ile ön planda olan hizmetlerimiz dorultusunda internet üzerinden bir siteye sahip olmak isteyenlere oldukça özel frsatlar sunuyoruz. Amacmz bu vds [ilgiweb.com] konuda teknolojinin insanlara sunduu olanaklar en iyi ekilde sizlere ulatrabilmektir. Bu konuda oldukça uygun olan fiyat seçeneklerimiz ile ihtiyacnz olan içerik paketlerini seçerek kendi sitenizi kurabilirsiniz. Hizmetlerimiz arasnda hosting [ilgiweb.com] gibi oldukça kaliteli ve zengin içerikli paketlerimiz bulunmaktadr. Sitemize gelerek bu konuda detayl inceleme yapabilir ve kararnz verebilirsiniz. Son derece önem verdiimiz müterilerimizin memnuniyeti bizler için oldukça önemlidir. Bu nedenle alt yapmzn salam olmasna ve sizlerin bu alandaki ihtiyaçlarn en iyi ekilde karlamak için elimizden geleni yapmaktayz. Aklnza taklan sorular için sitemizin canl destek birimi ile irtibata geçebilirsiniz. Sanal sunucu ve domain konusundaki ihtiyaçlarnz için sitede yer alan oldukça ekonomik paketleri inceleyerek kararnz verebilirsiniz. nternet üzerinden yapacanz ilerin daha kaliteli ve istediiniz boyutta olmasn istiyorsanz hizmetlerimizden yararlanabilirsiniz. Bu konuda sizlere en iyi ekilde yardmc olmak ve ihtiyaçlarnza karlk verebilmek en önemli amaçlarmz arasnda yer almaktadr.

I'd have gone with ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642461)

"Loretta"

Section 8 (4, Funny)

sunking2 (521698) | about a year ago | (#44642505)

Didn't work for Klinger in MASH, won't work for him either.

tinfoil hat time: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642513)

ok, if I were a major conspiracy theorist (sadly, I'm just a pragmatic cynic poser) I might find it suspicious that this comes out after Assage (to whom the docs were sent) gets accused of regret rape... yes, Manning's been convicted but how out there would it be to wonder if he got offered country club prison (or something like that) vs "Ben Dover - nice to meet you!" if he did this?

it just seems suspiciously convenient to the us govt that the two highest profile figures around all the leaks/revelations turn out to be {GASP!} "sex offenders"! (yes, I know being trans isn't/shouldn't be a crime but in the pea-sized brains of people who think that way they're effectively synonymous). either at least one of these stories (this or Assage/Sweeden) is BS or Obama is the luckiest SOB to ever live...

This is not tech news. This is just creepy. (0)

azav (469988) | about a year ago | (#44642519)

Stop it. Just stop it.

This is a dodge (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642533)

To get out of hard labor.

Ironically, he will be locked up with guys who have friends (or they themselves) were put in danger by Mannings actions.

Also, I guess he has to change his last name also.

Here's an idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44642553)

Let him serve his time in a female prison, to acknowledge him and his statements. Believe you me, a decision like that would instantly make most of the "politically correct" leftist people who have been spreading cheeze over this news go "Hm? Female prison? Weird.", clearly showing how superficial their actions and statements following this news really are. Put it to a poll, and even in the #FreeChelsea crowd the real opinion would be clear.

this tactic didn't help Klinger (0)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#44642591)

and it's not going to help Manning.

Bravo, Washington Post (4, Insightful)

barlevg (2111272) | about a year ago | (#44642619)

I read about this on WaPo [washingtonpost.com] about half an hour ago, where I noticed they did an incredibly intelligent and thoughtful thing: they disabled comments. Now if only that were possible on /.
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