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Former Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer Auctioning a Prototype "Spy Rock"

timothy posted 1 year,7 days | from the for-that-price-I'd-expect-at-least-two-rocks dept.

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ilikenwf writes "For a cool $10,000,000.00, the prototype of a surveillance rock full of spy gadgets could be yours! More importantly, server backups from the gentleman's time at Lockheed are included, being the real valuable in this auction, as it contains schematics and such. The seller seems to think that the current xBee radio products are actually based on his work with Lockheed. The proceeds will go towards legal action the seller is apparently taking against his former employer." This may be the most unusual eBay product description I've ever encountered, and one of the most interesting, too.

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IP Rights (2, Insightful)

muphin (842524) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668131)

even though this guy designed the hardware, wouldn't the documents and hardware be considered Intellectual Property of Lockheed?

Re:IP Rights (2)

Sun (104778) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668145)

Read the description. He wasn't a Lockhead emplyee. He held 10% shares of the contractor company that designed the product.

Shachar

Re:IP Rights (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668179)

doesnt matter. still a work for hire, and i would be very surprised if the contract gave any ip rights to peons or contractors.

Re:IP Rights (5, Interesting)

Darinbob (1142669) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668239)

Sounds like he was fired from the contract company that he was 10% owner of, and told that Lockheed did not buy the product (and thus no delivery of the final product). And now it appear that either Lockheed did buy the product after all or else it was sold at a later date to a third party (somehow xBee eventually got it). So he wants his 10%. The suit is against this contractor company.

Re:IP Rights (4, Interesting)

jythie (914043) | 1 year,7 days | (#44670225)

One of the risks of working on DoD projects is they have a nice little loophole in patent law that allows them to take IP from one company and give it to another without risking legal consequences. There have been quite a few documented cases over the years of well connected 'buddy' contractors essentially going to the DoD and saying 'company X has cool stuff, but we do not want to pay for it, so how about we build it for you instead?' and getting the stolen IP. Since it is connected to 'national security' the normal laws are suspended.

Re:IP Rights (1)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | 1 year,7 days | (#44670415)

One of the risks of working on DoD projects is they have a nice little loophole in patent law that allows them to take IP from one company and give it to another

Yet a Google search brings up nothing. Do you have a citation?

There have been quite a few documented cases over the years ...

Pet peeve: People that claim there are "quite a few" documents, but fail link to even one.

Re:IP Rights (2)

Vesvvi (1501135) | 1 year,7 days | (#44672241)

I read an extensive article about an ocean-floor submarine cable connector design which was effectively stolen by the government. A quick google search didn't turn it up, but maybe you will have better luck.

Re:IP Rights (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | 1 year,7 days | (#44670437)

Yeah, well, l guess l should recognize it. lt's my design.

What'd you do? Steal a key to the patent office?

Yeah, basically.

- Let me get this straight. l got pulled off an oil rig, flown halfway around the world because you stole my drill design...

Re:IP Rights (3, Interesting)

Zenin (266666) | 1 year,7 days | (#44672167)

All of which makes the eBay auction an absolutely brilliant legal maneuver:

To shut down the eBay auction Lockheed would have to claim ownership of the IP...which would mean admitting to fraud and making it legally liable to a hell of a lot more then just his 10% share (especially given the claims of continued use of his IP in other projects), likely including serious criminal charges.

If they don't take the bait...he's potentially $10M richer and still retains IP rights and can still use that to pursue the use of his tech in other projects (drones, etc).

It's by far better legal leverage than he'd ever see in a court room.

Re:IP Rights (1)

zoomshorts (137587) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668255)

HOAX , or a just-for-fun posting.

Re:IP Rights (4, Informative)

Duncan J Murray (1678632) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668297)

"In 2002-2003, I was the Chief Technology Officer for a Boston-based hardware research and development firm, Advanced Wireless Automation (AWA)."

"Based upon my equity ownership in the company and the fact that all AWA computing resources were conducted on my own personal equipment using my own datacenter and my Internet connection, it is well within my right to auction off the backups related to the now-defunct AWA."

Re:IP Rights (2)

DerekLyons (302214) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669415)

None of which means it wasn't the intellectual property of Lockheed. That depends on the terms of the contract AWA had with Lockheed, not on who owned the company or who hosted the computing resources. (And, FWIW, the same goes for the 'right' to auction off said intellectual property.)

Re:IP Rights (1)

tibman (623933) | 1 year,7 days | (#44671267)

It's not intellectual property. He's auctioning actual source code and gerber files.

Re:IP Rights (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | 1 year,7 days | (#44671555)

And the legal term for that kind of thing is.... (drum roll)... intellectual property.

Re:IP Rights (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668719)

The project wasn't picked up by Lockheed. So no.

Re:IP Rights (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44671893)

These are nothing new and have been used before i.e. one of the more famous recent incidents are in syria Spy rocks found in Syria [businessinsider.com] .

Tigers? (4, Funny)

mmontour (2208) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668143)

Does the rock also keep tigers away? Because if so, SOLD!

Re:Tigers? (2)

bkmoore (1910118) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668641)

The real question is, does it keep a man in a tiger suit away?

Re:Tigers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44670461)

Easily can be used as the new Panda Cam.

What? (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668151)

I.. what? What, is Slashdot the new weekly world news?

Re:What? (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668159)

Also, offer made for 10.00 USD.

Re:What? (4, Interesting)

lxs (131946) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668191)

Sounds about right for a second hand webcam in a Styrofoam rock.

Re:What? (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669277)

From the auction:

The pictures depicted from this auction show some of the early prototypes from the project; however, it should be noted that none of that hardware will be included in this auction as I had a non-intentionally set fire :) that transpired at my house in the storage area where my prototypes were, that destroyed most if not all of the prototype hardware from the initial project development with Lockheed. Those pictures were taken during the development process at one of Lockheed's SCIFs located in Northern Virgina, as is evidenced by the yellow caution tape you see on the floor there in the first few pictures. The last picture was one of the sample images generated from a RockCam installed across the street from one of the engineer's house.

What this auctions contains is this:

The remaining prototype hardware that I have in my possession, including:

1) Microhard Spectra 910 900MHz serial line radio with power supply (this was a prototype 900MHz radio that I believe went on to become the current generation of ZigBee-based XBee radios;
2) A collection of PC104-based enclosures and motherboards, with various interfacing such as serial ports, USB ports, etc;
3) A Mobile Wireless Technologies RM1000g AVS vehicle transponder with WWAN and GPS tracking support;
4) Novate wireless prototyping board;
5) GNU X-Tools cross compilation software;

and

6) A CD filled with backup materials during several years of the company (the most valuable part of this auction obviously).

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669431)

Also, his dog ate his homework.

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669443)

Moron.

Re: What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669215)

You outbid my best offer.

Lockheed or Lockeed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668153)

Seriously, how hard is it to spell the company name correctly?

Re:Lockheed or Lockeed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668881)

Seriously, how hard is it to spell the company name correctly?

So hard that they changed it from Loughhead to Lockheed, years ago.

( yes, I know the Slash-cretins who pretend to be competent editors didn't even
spell the fucking name right in the subject line of the article )

Re: Lockheed or Lockeed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669229)

Loughhead's a Scottish name.

Version 2.0 (4, Funny)

scsirob (246572) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668161)

Something tells me that version 2.0 of these skunk-work projects will show up at your doorstep if you show serious interest in this offer.

Re:Version 2.0 (1)

mpe (36238) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668461)

Something tells me that version 2.0 of these skunk-work projects will show up at your doorstep if you show serious interest in this offer.

Or more likely v3 which invisibly replaces your doorstep.

Re:Version 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44670107)

No need. This is old school. Nowadays we just follow Mrs. Spy and the little operatives on facebook and twitter

SOLD (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668169)

you have no idea how badly I wanted to hit buy it now...just 'cuz....must not hit the shiny red button....must not....

Re:SOLD (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668183)

Add to cart is the most ridiculous... "yeah I'll take it, but I have a few more items on my list..."

Re:SOLD (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668519)

Add to cart is the most ridiculous... "yeah I'll take it, but I have a few more items on my list..."

OK, now somebody with some Mad Ebay-Fu Skillz, please post what would be on the rest of this list.

Re:SOLD (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669253)

So you're saying 1-Click really is a worthwhile patent.

Or save $9,999,000.00 (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668201)

Because a Rasberry Pi, slightly outdated cellphone, wireless router, digital TV tuner card or USB device, flash memory, styrofoam, and spraypaint aren't exactly that expensive as OTS component resources in regards to being able to roll your own. Outside of custom software and knowing how to put the hardware together, it should be possible for under $1000 easy.

and old android will do it all (2)

cheekyboy (598084) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668343)

an old 3g phone with android and no apps, but one app for spying is enough.

There, $50 of hardware needed, nothing else.

Re:Or save $9,999,000.00 (2)

Demonantis (1340557) | 1 year,7 days | (#44670387)

Yes but will it be almost undetectedable by normal spectrum analysis? There was some serious radio technology in there. RTFA its worth it. This was a serious piece of equipment before the fire.

Re:Or save $9,999,000.00 (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44672911)

So, will a RPi work for three years with a rock-sized battery without recharging, like that thing would?

No NSA jokes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668213)

I'm surprised there are no NSA jokes or references posted yet.

Re:No NSA jokes? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668585)

NSA sucks up any nations data. This is more a ~CIA, MI6 surveillance product.
Add in the radiation details, 3 years of operation: thinking Iran, North Korea?

Free shipping eh? (1)

bytesex (112972) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668215)

I wonder if 'free shipping' also includes trans-Atlantic shipping? To eh.. say Russia, for example?

Re:Free shipping eh? (1)

bobthesungeek76036 (2697689) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668233)

$10M for a Styrofoam rock with some electronics inside? I would hope there would be enough cushion for worldwide shipping... ;)

Re:Free shipping eh? (3, Informative)

21mhz (443080) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668327)

They apparently delivered at least one of them to Russia free of charge already. Some years ago, there was a purportedly documental story on Russian TV where an employee of the British embassy was shown using a "spy rock" clandestinely in Moscow. The veracity of that was widely dismissed because of the ridiculousness of the idea. Some of these spy operations sound like gratuitous toying with cloak-and-dagger stuff.

Re:Free shipping eh? (2)

AHuxley (892839) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668673)

Was RT story mentioned further down on http://cryptome.org/2013/07/rockcam-spy.htm [cryptome.org] ?
Interesting notes about 'imagery data being relayed between the rocks, so that conventional signals intelligence methods would be unable to view the encrypted image/video streams." before the UK story.

Old tech (1)

mjwalshe (1680392) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669921)

MI6 tried that and it was discovered back in 2006

He isn't selling the rock :( (5, Informative)

janoc (699997) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668217)

It is a pity that the poster has never actually read the description of the auction, otherwise they would have found that:

"The pictures depicted from this auction show some of the early prototypes from the project; however, it should be noted that none of that hardware will be included in this auction as I had a non-intentionally set fire :) that transpired at my house in the storage area where my prototypes were, that destroyed most if not all of the prototype hardware from the initial project development with Lockheed. Those pictures were taken during the development process at one of Lockheed's SCIFs located in Northern Virgina, as is evidenced by the yellow caution tape you see on the floor there in the first few pictures. The last picture was one of the sample images generated from a RockCam installed across the street from one of the engineer's house."

and

" 1) Microhard Spectra 910 900MHz serial line radio with power supply (this was a prototype 900MHz radio that I believe went on to become the current generation of ZigBee-based XBee radios; 2) A collection of PC104-based enclosures and motherboards, with various interfacing such as serial ports, USB ports, etc; 3) A Mobile Wireless Technologies RM1000g AVS vehicle transponder with WWAN and GPS tracking support; 4) Novate wireless prototyping board; 5) GNU X-Tools cross compilation software; and 6) A CD filled with backup materials during several years of the company (the most valuable part of this auction obviously)"

So still some nice hw and docs, but certainly no "spy rocks" included. RTFA, guys!

Re:He isn't selling the rock :( (2)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668959)

Taking pictures in a SCIF?

Ruh-Roh.

Re:He isn't selling the rock :( (1)

gravis777 (123605) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669323)

So... In the process of trying to raise money for legal fees against his former employer, he releases pictures taken on Lockheed property of Lockheed IP stuff, and some documents most likely protected via Lockheed IP and national security laws? So, he invites yet another lawsuit, breaks ebay Terms and Conditions, breaks national laws, and tries to become another Snowden.

So either this is a huge hoax, or this guy is an idiot. At least try to flee the country first next time! Russia might give you temporary assylum!

Re:He isn't selling the rock :( (1)

mjwalshe (1680392) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669941)

Yes did he not understand when he signed the Official secrets act (the equivalent in the USA) what he was doing?

Totally bogus (1)

bobthesungeek76036 (2697689) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668219)

SkunkWorks? Don't they design aircraft? What in the world would an advanced airframe design company want with a rock with a camera in it? And for sure they wouldn't have to hire a sub to design it if they did...

Re:Totally bogus (2)

undeadbill (2490070) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668321)

Lockheed does a lot more than just aviation design, and it is also fairly typical for government contractors to sub out work to outside companies, especially if the top tier contractor doesn't have the internal expertise or can't pay the expertise enough to join Lockheed.

Maybe the Skunk Works has gone downhill (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668391)

In a biography of Ben Rich, the second head of the Skunkworks, the Skunkworks was focused on aircraft design. Lockheed used to be just an airplane company. The X-33 wasn't exactly a success, and Lockheed should have been smarter to abstain from such an aggressive project. Maybe this once great American institution has succumbed to bureaucracy and mediocrity.

Re:Totally bogus (1)

bobthesungeek76036 (2697689) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668427)

I agree. Lockheed Martin does a lot more than just aviation. But Lockheed Martin Aeronautics - SkunkWorks mission is advanced airframe design.

Re:Totally bogus (1)

AHuxley (892839) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668599)

Lockheed had lots of fun with dish antennae projects in Sunnyvale, CA.... they are way into the aerospace industry, antenna work (huge for UK or smaller projects).

Let's see what happens... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668241)

So this guy claims that he was co-founder/shareholder/engineer at a company that developed a product for Lockheed and then (probably after showing the (almost final) product to Lockheed) got turned down towards the end of development, leaving the company in bankruptcy. Now he wants to auction this stuff he stole from the company that partially belonged to him, but the liquidator never came up with the idea of selling it. Additionally, he seems to be thinking that Lockheed has indeed taken what he has developed, but never paid for it (which is a very vague claim).
Well, that's probably not going to work as those who held the other 90% of the company shares will want their share of the profits. Additionally, I would be surprised if they did not sign a confidentiality agreement before getting this project.

Re:Let's see what happens... (1)

wiredlogic (135348) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669605)

Taking pictures inside a SCIF with your personal electronic devices is a major no-no. This guy is about to get slapped down hard for that alone.

Re:Let's see what happens... (2)

rot26 (240034) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669655)

You probably have a good imagination, it would seem.

This guy has a plan and it has nothing to do with actually succeeding with the auction... for the intended audience (maybe just one person) this is a shot across the bow, in a public forum, and the most important information (to the right person) is what is not said. 90% of this story (if it's not a hoax, which it probably is) will never be told, which may be the whole point here.

Anything Else for Sale ? (2)

nukenerd (172703) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668245)

A bridge perhaps?

Actually (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668263)

It's spelled Lockheed

Historical (2)

Tablizer (95088) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668271)

This started the war in iRock

Proper Summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668277)

Summary of why this platform is special:

The secret sauce to the RockCam was a heavily encrypted link layer and Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) that I developed, in addition to a wavelet compression pump that was ported to the DSP and which sported a 120:1 compression ratio for imagery data with a better signal-to-noise ratio than other competing image compression standards such as PNG or JPEG2K.

Summary of what's included:

1) Microhard Spectra 910 900MHz serial line radio with power supply (this was a prototype 900MHz radio that I believe went on to become the current generation of ZigBee-based XBee radios;
2) A collection of PC104-based enclosures and motherboards, with various interfacing such as serial ports, USB ports, etc;
3) A Mobile Wireless Technologies RM1000g AVS vehicle transponder with WWAN and GPS tracking support;
4) Novate wireless prototyping board;
5) GNU X-Tools cross compilation software;
6) A CD filled with backup materials during several years of the company (the most valuable part of this auction obviously).
...
Included on this CD are hundreds of documents related to the development of the RockCam including the RockCam Bill of Materials, PROTEL schematics and layout, the Gerber files used to create the custom mainboard including NC drillout files, Pick and Place output files etc, the wavelet executable used for the compression pump, all of the custom CMOS imager mechanical designs for the C-mount pinhole imager, a list of all the nuclear power plants and numbers of installed RockCams at each nuclear power plant location, all of the AWA business plan documentation as well as financial model information, lots of various financial data related to AWA and their investors as well as customers, everything related to the entire product development lifecycle including almost two years of email backups between AWA execs and Lockheed, documents describing the RockCam communication protocol specification with the M2M NOC, emails between the execs and Lockheed officials, pretty much everything you need to replicate this project and build a competing surveillance platform.

Re:Proper Summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668687)

Overrated? Give me a break, at least I can spell Lockheed properly and it gives more detailed and accurate information than the actual summary and other comments for that matter.

Pet Rock (1)

Tablizer (95088) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668279)

This may trigger a fad called something like "pet rocks".

Re:Pet Rock (1)

minstrelmike (1602771) | 1 year,7 days | (#44670045)

At ten million a pop, it'd be luxury pet rocks. Stuff for people like Oprah. It would even fit in a $38,000 purse.

Doggone it! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668287)

Did he already sell the Dogpoop Cam? I hear it was cancelled because they got tired of wiping prototypes off their shoes.

It's a rock (1)

mtpaley (2652983) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668329)

I suspect this is the starting material for a rock cam, I.E. a rock. Good luck with selling that.

X marks the pots! (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668339)

For a cool $10,000,000.00, the prototype surveillance rock full of spy gadgets box could be yours! More importantly, home server backups from the gentleman's time at Lockheed are included, which was real valuable to this auction as that's where schematics and such are. The seller seemed to think that the current xBee radio box is actually based on his square design done at Lockeed. Proceeds go towards legal action; The seller is allegedly taking against his former employer's wishes....

And you can keep your weed in there, man!

Re:X marks the pots! (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668949)

Weed?

I don't think that's what this guy is taking.

Normal delusions of grandeur (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668377)

The seller must need that $10M for his therapy and/or medication bills. This guy needs to let go of his delusions.

Sure, he could've been a bleeding-edge developer with a hot secret project in his hands, but it's quite insane to believe that his pet project would have direct influence in dozens of others. Ideas are actually quite common and logical, and the hard part usually is pulling it together and then selling it.

CMOS-sensors and wireless links are not that secret anyway. Using DSP for motion-detection on CMOS camera, not really original. And I highly doubt a lossy wavelet-compression would have better signal-to-noise ratio than lossless PNG compression.. Also, all claims about the radiolinks; he used a ready-made radiomodule. If I buy a cellphone, it doesn't make me the owner of all ideas related to communication over the cellphone network. Xbee modules are just simple boards with various radiochips on common connectors. World is also full of MAC layers for radios. Heck, DoD even publishes it's own. Temperature and humidity sensing are also a $2 off-the-shelf feature.

Regards to spying, the device being sold doesn't actually seem to be very good at spying. Ability to transmit images over low-capacity mesh radio links is painful. It doesn't even pick up audio from nearby. No mention of sniffing/monitoring WLAN. It only seems to be an over-engineered motion detector. I'm not surprised to why they axed the project..

Re:Normal delusions of grandeur (1)

AHuxley (892839) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668657)

Sniffing/monitoring WLAN would be traceable maybe even expected where used?
This notes years hidden with options to conserve energy, get more useful life from the sun and radiation detectors with local weather details. Images over low-capacity mesh radio is just fine if its one 'site' and under years of expansion.
Different mission to devices like http://rt.com/news/spy-rock-britain-admit-147/ [rt.com] (2006)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9022827/Russian-spy-rock-was-genuine-former-chief-of-staff-admits.html [telegraph.co.uk]

"A list of all nuclear power plants..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668401)

From TFA:

"a list of all the nuclear power plants and numbers of installed RockCams at each nuclear power plant location, all of the AWA business plan documentation as well as financial model information, lots of various financial data related to AWA and their investors as well as customers, everything related to the entire product development lifecycle including almost two years of email backups between AWA execs and Lockheed, documents describing the RockCam communication protocol specification with the M2M NOC, emails between the execs and Lockheed officials, pretty much everything you need to replicate this project and build a competing surveillance platform."

Silly question (IANAL), but is this guy responsible for whatever the buyer does with his information? This sounds like confidential stuff, and I find it hard to believe that he can just let it go like that. What happens if some Bad People (TM) use his magic DVD of internal information to compromise Lockheed or M2M? What happens if there was a flaw in his system, and that information gets you into a surveillance system apparently still in use at several nuclear power plants?

This all seems too bizarre to be real. He says he's putting the money towards lawyers for whatever other reason, but what I don't get is that it seems like releasing this information would bring down an insane torrent of other lawsuits, the likes of which I'm guessing his $10M would barely begin to cover.

Re:"A list of all nuclear power plants..." (1)

AHuxley (892839) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668619)

The US would like to drop/park a rock in some country with active nuclear testing or expected nuclear leak issues.
So that science data would be collected and compressed back to a US site without Soviet/Russian/China/French?/German? local 'spy radio' detection systems been made aware?

Re: "A list of all nuclear power plants..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668709)

IANAL either, but at a minimum, such information is likely subject to US export control laws.

Re:"A list of all nuclear power plants..." (2)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668839)

The point is to make Lockheed or whoever else pay him his 10%.

That sale isn't targeted at you and me (5, Insightful)

Aviation Pete (252403) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668409)

I guess he wants the people who screwed him to buy in order to keep the contents of the CD secret. Then he probably wants to settle out of court.

Will be interesting to see if there is really someone who buys before the auction ends. In effect, he/she will fund the legal campaign of his/her opponent ...

The point is to be sued (2)

nmoore (22729) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668457)

Perry says:

I am auctioning this off for the stated price to fund a legal team in DC dig into my dismissal from the company and to determine where the AWA intellectual property went after the demise of AWA.

And what is the interesting part of the auction? A backup CD full of AWA intellectual property. If someone sues him over selling that CD and infringing upon their IP, then he knows who currently owns the IP, and he can in discovery find out how they obtained it—providing the evidence needed to file his own lawsuit.

It sounds like a bit of a gamble, though: What if, say, the customer lists and the patents went to different places? Then the owners of the former could sue him, but he would not get the information he's looking for.

Re:The point is to be sued (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669333)

Doesn't this assume that this particular "spy device" was patented, not just surreptitiously manufactured for denied ops?

Boom? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668511)

After the Landers Earthquake, 1992, 7.3, seismologists were taken on a guided tour of faults and ground ruptures within the Twentynine Palms. It had taken some time to get permission due to this being a live-fire training region. One seismologist said they were instructed to not to anything, anything without express permission. They were told to not even pick up a rock, and these were geologists and seismologists, because that 'rock' might explode.

Heck with spy rocks. I want exploding rocks!

Re:Boom? (2)

NicBenjamin (2124018) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668945)

Then make some explosive shells, and sit them out in the wilderness for 60 years. Weathering will make some of them look like rocks. You really shouldn't pick them up, or even touch them, due to 60 years of erosion screwing with the triggering mechanism; so you won't actually be able to use them for anything.

But you'll have exploding rocks.

Delusion... (1)

Half-pint HAL (718102) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668513)

Sounds like it's higher than the value of the goods to me... if he wants outsiders to fund his legal action, he needs to offer a share of the spoils...

Xbee isn't 900MHz (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668531)

Guess he will need to study up a bit before he finalises the list of what he invented.

A freaking spy rock! Sweet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668681)

The NSA should buy this ASAP before some terrorist gets it.

Re:A freaking spy rock! Sweet! (1)

BonThomme (239873) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669127)

maybe it's a double-agent rock

Disappeared (1)

Reliable Windmill (2932227) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668845)

I'm thinking this guy is setting himself up for 50 years behind bars, or getting "disappeared", for pursuing this.

Rare Slashdotting Measurement!!!! (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | 1 year,7 days | (#44668849)

10 minutes ago, a hover-over of the main picture yielded "583 people are viewing this per hour". 10 minutes later just now, it's up to 592.

As more people wake up this number should go up.

Re:Rare Slashdotting Measurement!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669099)

As of now, it's at 26309. 5 offers, 76 watchers.

Re:Rare Slashdotting Measurement!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669105)

Apologies - I'm referring to the *total* views in the green LCD-looking graphic near the bottom of the page.

Obligatory conspiracy post (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44668969)

This sounds like a pretty good idea to collect information about anyone seriously wanting this type of information. It's clever enough. Hey, let's post on ebay some secrets for sale, see who is interested. Make up a story about a burned contractor with seemingly legit claim on the data. IANAL, but I can imagine all kinds of laws people can be charged with for knowingly purchasing and receiving CDs with those emails and schematics, fully expecting they contain anywhere from corporate secrets and up.

A bigger version of the Dog Turd sensor (1)

Gim Tom (716904) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669027)

This just seems to be a bigger and fancier version of the seismic sensors that looked like dog droppings and were used during the Vietnam war.

Used on the Russian last year ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44669159)

Is this the same one that the Russians claimed was used on them last year ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9022827/Russian-spy-rock-was-genuine-former-chief-of-staff-admits.html

Doesn't ebay charge for listings? (1)

innocent_white_lamb (151825) | 1 year,7 days | (#44669809)

If this guy's minimum price is ten million dollars, won't he be on the hook for several hundred thousand in fees to ebay if it doesn't sell?

This guy isn't a U.S. citizen... (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44670357)

Nobody born and bred in the U.S of A. ends their correspondence with cheers.

Just sayin'

Cheers!

Sure we do. (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | 1 year,7 days | (#44673139)

Nobody born and bred in the U.S of A. ends their correspondence with cheers.

Lots of us do - and have for decades.

I've used it in email practically since there's been email - and I was born and raised almost in the center of the "radio accent" heartland.

It's short and often just the right tone for ending a written communication.

Don't expect this to stay up long. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,7 days | (#44670707)

Don't expect this to stay up long. He will getting an offer that he can't refuse before the auction ends. It is pretty certain that he knew that this would happen when he posted it.

Repurcussions for buyer? (1)

mysidia (191772) | 1 year,7 days | (#44671179)

More importantly, server backups from the gentleman's time at Lockheed are included, being the real valuable in this auction

I have a hard time imagining, that Lockheed has consented to release of server backups containing intellectual property they made or have an interest in.

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