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Omate TrueSmart Watch Stands Alone — No Phone Required

timothy posted about a year ago | from the dick-tracey-james-bond-or-maxwell-smart dept.

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jarold writes to point out an intriguing entry in the expanding smart-watch field: the Omate TrueSmart watch. Production of samples is about start on the watch after a successful Kickstarter campaign. Unlike some of the smart watches now out (or promised for soon), the TrueSmart is capable of making voice calls, sending texts, and using social media messaging without a separate smartphone or tablet. The specs are impressive, for something you wear on your wrist: Android 4.2.2 running on a dual core Cortex A7 and half a gig of RAM, 4GB of storage (expandable via micro-SD slot).

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167 comments

I remember when watches didn't require phones (1)

jmcbain (1233044) | about a year ago | (#44674659)

Seems like yesterday. Get off my lawn.

What? (-1, Offtopic)

jpublic (3023069) | about a year ago | (#44674667)

You are not Mario Antonio Scubafitz, and you are not one with me. Why do insolent insects so desperately try to delude themselves into believing that they're important than they are? It makes no logical sense!

Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

SeaFox (739806) | about a year ago | (#44674731)

The only special thing about this one is the specs and it's running Android.

Is this commercial break almost over?

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

Tukz (664339) | about a year ago | (#44674741)

Several Android smart watches already exist.
This is nothing new.

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674839)

Several Android smart watches already exist.
This is nothing new.

Where are they?

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (2)

notknown86 (1190215) | about a year ago | (#44674973)

http://www.imsmart.com/en [imsmart.com]

The reviews are not flattering.

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675051)

Several Android smart watches already exist.
This is nothing new.

Where are they?

http://www.imsmart.com/en [imsmart.com]
The reviews are not flattering.

Nope. That's just another watch that connects to your actual smartphone via bluetooth... It's not an actual smartphone IN a watch. Still waiting for proof of "Several Android smart watches already exist. This is nothing new." being a relevant statement for this article.

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675079)

Still waiting for proof of "Several Android smart watches already exist. This is nothing new." being a relevant statement for this article.

It very clearly is a relevant statement for this article. The question is whether it is a true statement.

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675321)

Still waiting for proof of "Several Android smart watches already exist. This is nothing new." being a relevant statement for this article.

It very clearly is a relevant statement for this article. The question is whether it is a true statement.

It's irrelevant to this article about a smartphone-in-a-watch because they posted a link to a nonsmartphone-in-a-watch-that-connects-via-bluetooth-to-an-actual-smartphone as proof that this article is old news and that there are already several smartphones-in-a-watch on the market. It may have been a relevant statement in an article about a new nonsmartphone-in-a-watch-that-connects-via-bluetooth-to-an-actual-smartphone, but not to this one.

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (2)

RDW (41497) | about a year ago | (#44674991)

There's a specialised market for phones of this size in the UK - if they make a version without the strap lugs, they could be on to a winner!:

http://gizmodo.com/uk-moves-to-ban-phones-designed-to-fit-up-prisoner-butt-1178815285 [gizmodo.com]

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

somersault (912633) | about a year ago | (#44675125)

That.. adds a whole new facet to the concept of "phone sex" :p what's even more ludicrous is the linked story where people were smuggling in normal smartphones.. ouchhhh.. :s

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (0)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675139)

Hahahaha, great sense of humor... uhm btw TrueSmart is indeed without lugs lol

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (2)

jkflying (2190798) | about a year ago | (#44675223)

Does it come with a 'vibrate' ringer option?

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675421)

YES it has vibrate... very funny on this post thread :-)

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (2)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#44675355)

Hell, when I was in the joint, there were guys who could have fit an LG Optimus up there and still have room for an ounce of weed and a Dremel tool.

We used to joke, "...help me find my keys and we'll drive out of here."

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (3, Informative)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675151)

We are presenting a few leaps forward that are new 1) First Smartwatch that is water-resistant companion to phone (like the rest) AND standalone phone 2) First Smartwatch with Google Play App store - we believe apps will do to smartwatch like they did to smartphones 3) and if we successfully surpass $500K funds raised on Kickstarter, TrueSmart will be the First Smartwatch with Sapphire Crystal glass - the best scratch-proof, stuff used by the Grandmasters of watchmakers (Rolex, Omega, Hublot, Tag Heuer, etc). The specs like Android 4.2.2, dual core, GPS / Wifi 802.11bgn / Bluetooth 4.0 are simply technical specs one-up on what's out there.

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

jezwel (2451108) | about a year ago | (#44675855)

Undoing mod points to ask:
Does the screen permanently display the time - as a normal watch does - or do you need to 'wake' the watch up?

I've only seen one phone that boasted an 'always on' time display, and that was my old Nokia N8 with an AMOLED screen (very low power). This thing needs to work as a watch first and foremost! TIA

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

fastest fascist (1086001) | about a year ago | (#44675343)

So... Another made-in-china Android device that you're supposed to trust with your personal data? Where's a privacy-oriented smartphone maker when you need one? Why didn't Ubuntu's marketing for their phone focus on that?

Re:Watch phones are nothing new. (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675561)

The world's consumer electronics and smartphones are indeed manufactured in China. That's just the way it is. Omate TrueSmart is too manufactured in China. The apps, software, user interface etc are actually produced by our very international team in USA, Canada, Finland, France, Netherlands, Singapore, Hong Kong, China. The underlying system that actually controls the privacy is made by Google though. ps. we think Ubuntu Edge failed because of the amount of pledge it was asking for. Nothing wrong with their marketing and product - which were both great.

But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674737)

...what about the battery? how long will it last?

Re:But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674745)

It's lunchtime now and i've go

Refreshing (4, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year ago | (#44674747)

Nothing like having the refreshing backplate of a smoldering hot CPU tied around your wrist.
I hope it comes with a quick release mechanism.

Re:Refreshing (2)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year ago | (#44674769)

It looks low end enough not to get particularly warm. Dual core A7 and 512MB RAM are not a lot.

Battery life looks like more of an issue. The advantage of smart watches without their own phone functionality is that they can run for a week on a charge (the good ones anyway).

Re:Refreshing (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675171)

phone functionality is there when you need it. Otherwise, it's ALSO a smartwatch without phone functionality if you prefer :-) We designed TrueSmart to be best of both worlds.

Re:Refreshing (2)

Thanshin (1188877) | about a year ago | (#44674993)

A pocket watch would dissipate heat better and the chain could work as usb cable.

Re:Refreshing (3, Interesting)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675163)

No worries about that, mate. We've been fiedtesting and none of our staff has been sent to the Emergency room for burn wounds lololol. On a more serious note, the CPU is the latest low power dual core 28nm processor. Low power, low heat (which is waste of energy) and that's good for battery life too.

Re:Refreshing (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675849)

For Christ's sake, if you want someone to take you seriously, never use the words "lololol" ever, ever. Ever.

I understand that for you kids, it's hip young lingo, but you come across as the forty year old, divorced single mother secretary at the end of the hall who is desperately trying to stay relevant, or as a mentally challenged teenage girl who doesn't understand how to show emotion in text.

That one simple phrase makes me mistrust your business.

Re:Refreshing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675199)

Your wrist is liquid-cooled, calm down. If it had a way to conduct heat to the underside of your wrist and maintain contact, it could dump a lot of heat energy right into you without ever making you feel at all uncomfortable.

Re:Refreshing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675365)

Nothing like having the refreshing backplate of a smoldering hot CPU tied around your wrist.
I hope it comes with a quick release mechanism.

Just wait until the version comes out with a built in projection HD screen!.

Old Technology (3, Funny)

techno-vampire (666512) | about a year ago | (#44674759)

There's nothing new here. Dick Tracy [wikipedia.org] had one of these over sixty years ago.

Re:Old Technology (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675099)

Dick Tracy is only pretend, you faptard.

Re:Old Technology (1)

Assmasher (456699) | about a year ago | (#44675397)

Anonymous Cowards are only pretend...

Re:Old Technology - Michael Knight (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | about a year ago | (#44675551)

Michael Knight also did (http://media.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Michael-Knight.jpg) AND he had awesome hair.

Re:Old Technology - Michael Knight (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675591)

and James Bond, awesome hair and a British accent ;) So for the perfect Omate TrueSmart launch party, we're getting Dick Tracey, Michael Knight (and KITT of course) and James Bond !! :-)

Heat (3, Interesting)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44674767)

I have what is now a quite low end phone, Galaxy Ace.

That thing gets warm if you use it "intensively", i.e. play a game that maxes it out. It has a considerably larger area over which to dissipate heat. I wonder how this one does.

Though I'm struggling to think of what would max out such a tiny device anyway. I can't see it running games or sitting there headless running a folding client.

Re:Heat (4, Informative)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year ago | (#44674965)

The idea is probably that this watch device uses a newer SoC that requires less power.
Your Galaxy Ace has a 65nm CPU. I dare say a brand new dual core Cortex A7 is built on something a little smaller. All of MediaTek's Cortex A7's with 3G support appear to be 28nm.

Re:Heat (1, Redundant)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675187)

EXACTLY, well said.

Re:Heat (3, Insightful)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about a year ago | (#44675177)

You have the wrong idea. It's not about functionality. It's about making people envy you by the products you buy. Moreover, you identify yourself as well-off and on top of the latest trends. Why do you think the iPod came with easily-identifiable white earplugs? Even if you're dressed like a homeless person, with this device on your wrist nobody will actually mistake you for one.

Re:Heat (3, Informative)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675179)

You can be assured there's no heat issues with the TrueSmart. Technology progresses and energy efficiency improves too - the processor is the latest low-power 28nm processor, low power and less heat generated (which is a waste of power actually). No problems here

Re:Heat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675503)

No problems here

Where are they then? This sounds too good to be true...

Re:Heat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675533)

It's running android.

Re:Heat (1)

stenvar (2789879) | about a year ago | (#44675703)

Technology gets more power efficient. Something as computationally powerful as your Galaxy Ace these days uses a lot less power and generates less heat.

Charging position (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674775)

Placing the charging position in the high corrosion area against the skin seems like a bad idea.

Re:Charging position (1)

quantumphaze (1245466) | about a year ago | (#44675015)

Placing the charging position in the high corrosion area against the skin seems like a bad idea.

Good point. I notice that the charging pins are indented to avoid direct contact with the skin, though whether that is enough to reduce corrosion I can not say. Arm hairs can still deposit corrosive oils.

This would be great if it could use inductive charging instead. Coils in the wrist strap maybe?

Re:Charging position (1)

Camael (1048726) | about a year ago | (#44675089)

Corrosion, I think, would be less of a problem than the accumulated skin/gunk which will clog up the charging slot.

Re:Charging position (5, Informative)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675205)

These are special water-resistant connectors, so they are certainly made to handle corrosion! We have some inductive charging in our labs, tried various prototypes, couldn't get a satisfied design with enough charging surface for a meaningful charge and not end up with a huge watch, so we'll leave inductive charging to the next generation, hopefully with some advancements in inductive charging by then. By the way, the watch is designed strictly to watch sizes, a 45mm size, slightly larger than a dress watch, smaller than a sports watch.

I want one (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year ago | (#44674799)

That's all I've got. A standalone device,,, very interesting. Depending on price and availability, I'd like one.

Back in the nineties there was a watch that was a pager, and you could also get news headlines and stock reports on it. I wore mine 24 hours a day and got a skin infection... wait, too much information. Suffice it to say, I really liked that product and this one looks very interesting.

Re:I want one (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#44675131)

I wore mine 24 hours a day and got a skin infection... wait, too much information.

You got a skin infection from too much information? Hmm. Maybe that crusty orange lump isn't a cheeto...

What's the use of putting the phone inside? (1)

sturle (1165695) | about a year ago | (#44674803)

What if I want a smart watch but no phone? Putting the phone inside the watch isn't going to help. I value my privacy, and don't want to walk around with an effective radiolocation beacon.

Re:What's the use of putting the phone inside? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674923)

you are a dangerous terrorist!

Re:What's the use of putting the phone inside? (2)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675211)

You can use the TrueSmart as a smartwatch without the phone function - it is BOTH a companion to your phone AND a standalone. Don't put in a SIM card, it's a smartwatch, a truly smart one, Android 4.2.2 with full access to Google Play apps store (the first and only smartwatch with this). Has Bluetooth, Wifi which you can use to pair with your regular smartwatch or use it on its own.

you lost me at Android (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674811)

after my last two Android phones I can't fathom ever buying another Android device. Maybe once they iron out the kinks, but my experience was so bad I am left feeling pretty jaded. phones crashing and freezing on a DAILY basis. too unstable for me. no thanks.

Re:you lost me at Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675623)

Wow, I leave an honest comment and get labeled a troll!? My Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S4 both say Android is shit. Fuck Android and Fuck this site.

Glass and Smart Watches (3, Insightful)

Tyr07 (2300912) | about a year ago | (#44674829)

I've wanted something like this since I was a kid. Something incredibly useful, portable, does many functions, even phone calls, from a watch? Hell yeah I'll buy one. Someone mentioned heat and games. I don't want to play games on it. I want to text, make phone calls, maybe pictures / video, and get information on it. Like news or directions. It shouldn't heat up too much with that barring the video. Technology has been useful, and it has been convenient for the task it's replacing/performing. However it is rarely convenient to carry with you all the time. Priceless.

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year ago | (#44674895)

I've wanted something like this since I was a kid. Something incredibly useful, portable, does many functions, even phone calls, from a watch? Hell yeah I'll buy one.

Someone mentioned heat and games. I don't want to play games on it.
I want to text, make phone calls, maybe pictures / video, and get information on it. Like news or directions. It shouldn't heat up too much with that barring the
video.

Technology has been useful, and it has been convenient for the task it's replacing/performing. However it is rarely convenient to carry with you all the time.
Priceless.

Seriously? Remember texting on the old dumb phones? The ones with the small screens? Ya, you get the small screens with these "smart watches" . Hope the texting works for you, using 1 hand (after all, you aren't going to take the watch off to hold it in two hands to text, right?) on that small screen. Not even sure how you want to use it as a phone, hold it up to your ear? bluetooth headset? Did you even think this thru?

I know this sound cool when we were kids (not sure when you were a kid, but they didn't even have them big ass brick cell phones when I was a kid. But now I'm not a kid, and I can see the value of a "smart" watch is very, very low.

I stopped wearing my watch when I got a cell phone. Why? Because it's that convenient item that does it all that I can carry with me.

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (3, Insightful)

Tyr07 (2300912) | about a year ago | (#44674949)

I don't need a giant screen for simple text messages. If it's a large conversation worth that would be very difficult to type on one single small screen, I'd just call the person. I don't intend to write an email from it.

Yes, I was imaging using a blue tooth device paired to it. I did think this through, you may not have.
Ever use a speaker phone before? If it's an important quick call, it can be handy, ideally not used in areas where having a conversation
on the phone where 3rd parties can hear the conversation is an issue. Say you're just out walking and buddy calls you. You can
just pick it up, have a quick chat, where are you, oh, I'm here walking over to X store or whatever. Alright, meet you there.

Personally I'd rather hold my arm up like looking at the time for a few seconds than a phone to my ear.
Obviously for more private conversations you'd want to use your blue tooth device and be somewhere you're not disturbing people.
Plus I think it would be quite convenient for reading quick text messages.

What's also nice is that you can pair it with a phone if you need a bigger device for extended text messaging and other features.
The real boon is having a display on your arm that is easy to look at, instead of digging your phone out to see who is calling or texting.


My personal experience with my phone in my pocket or a case is it falling out, into water, or just on concrete. Getting scratched and damaged
Or just pressure from being in pockets damaging the touch screen etc.

Honestly until I saw this, my next phone was going to be as old styled as possible, hopefully no touch screen etc.
My current phone is touch screen and it's going, but it doesn't do smart phone stuff, doesn't run android etc
Means I don't facebook or do data from it, I charge it once every week or two weeks, I text and phone from it, and it works good.

So maybe not for everyone, but for me, a functional stand alone watch phone would be great.

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675235)

Very well put, we couldn't have said it better! It's a new use, not to be compared with phones.

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about a year ago | (#44674955)

I only use 1 hand to write text messages (the other is holding the phone) Swype is very effective at this. If the device is strapped to my arm, it's being held, and my other hand does the Swyping. There is one issue though, and it's something that nothing really can be done about it. It suffers the same issues that plague so many pieces of equipment, not left-hand friendly. I guess it can be overcome by wearing the watch on the right arm, but that feels unnatural.

Either way, I'm certain it takes voice commands so you can dictate messages to it.

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675121)

Just die. Caggies are deviants anyway.

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675227)

TrueSmart ships with a special Keyboard enhancer, from a reputable onscreen keyboard most people are familiar with. In addition to the Keyboard enhancer, there's Voice-to-text, Swipe Gestures, Gesture Control... a combination of user input methods. It's a new thing not to be compared with smartphones, not meant to replace smartphone but rather move forward. Not trying to change your mind now, but hope you will keep an open mind. Afterall when typing with an on screen keyboard was first introduced, many people said it would not take off (remember Blackberry?)

Re:Glass and Smart Watches (1)

bazorg (911295) | about a year ago | (#44675471)

How about strapping a normal smartphone to your wrist? I tried it with elastic bands just for a laugh.

Knight Rider (1)

Freultwah (739055) | about a year ago | (#44674881)

So, watches like this with Google's operating system combined with Google's self driving cars... I want to call my KITT now, thank you.

Re:Knight Rider (1)

aliquis (678370) | about a year ago | (#44675025)

I also want to get a new one after each jump! :D

Instant 3D printing on the spot! No need to get out!

Re:Knight Rider (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675247)

For the Omate TrueSmart launch party, we'll be getting Michael Knight (and KITT of course), Dick Tracey and James Bond :-)

Question: (1)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | about a year ago | (#44674893)

how do I talk over this thing?

Is it James Bond or Dick Tracy like, with my left arm riased & talking to watch & looking as if in some sort of conspiration?

Well, I still might like it. Pondering whether to order one or not...

Re:Question: (1)

Tukz (664339) | about a year ago | (#44674915)

Bluetooth earpiece or similar.

Re:Question: (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about a year ago | (#44674951)

From the Article:

600mAH battery
Multi-touch Capacitive Touch Screen at 1.54 inches
Color display of 240×240 resolution
Bluetooth 4.0, Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n
3G WCDMA : HSPA 7.2Mbps / 5.76Mbps

I'm guessing a bluetooth headset

Re:Question: (3, Informative)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675265)

You can indeed talk into the TrueSmart like James Bond, Dick Tracey and Michael Knight (KITT) :-)) There's a water-resistant speaker / mic built-in. A bluetooth headset can be used too. Texting (special enhanced onscreen keyboard + swipes) is an alternative. Perfect for those quick and short messages like "OK I'll be there", "I miss you too", "What are you doing Saturday"... audio or text :-)

Re:Question: (2)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | about a year ago | (#44675437)

wow, you registered on slashdot, just after these news appeared on front page.

What can you tell about battery life & daily usage & charging? 100hr is a mere 4 days.

How is it supposed to work on day to day: whenever I get home, I take off the watch, put it on my desk and connect to the charger?
What if I want to spend 2 weeks in mountains?
Can I charge in a car [wikipedia.org] ?
What about travelling & battery consumption - I discovered that while in my current (crappy) phone battery lasts about 3 days, it lasts only 6 to 8 hours while I am travelling by car across my country - it must be due to constant seeking&switching of phone cell towers. How does the smartwatch cope with that?
Is it possible to carry around some extra batteries (to spend 2 weeks in mountains, you know :)

Some other points you want to make about battery?

Battery... (3, Insightful)

Edis Krad (1003934) | about a year ago | (#44674921)

I hope it comes with its own hand-crank, because I find it hard to believe that is going to hold a charge past 60 minutes...

Re:Battery... (1)

lobiusmoop (305328) | about a year ago | (#44674967)

I sometimes wonder why they are putting high-end hardware in these watches when there isn't enough space for a large battery. This has 600mAH, not much for an Android phone. Something like the Nokia 100 can run for a month on 800mAH by omitting all the bells and whistles I think you would rarely use on a keyboard-less 1.54'' screen watch phone anyway, and just being a phone.

Re:Battery... (1)

Bert64 (520050) | about a year ago | (#44675181)

Well most people don't need more than 1 day worth of battery, when you go to bed you take the device off and attach it to a charger next to your bed...

Re:Battery... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675307)

This may be a weird question to pose to slashdotters but, what if you're not in your bed?

These things need multi-day capable batteries (even if that mean a low power, reduced capability mode).

3-7days to get you through a weekend at the minimum. ... oh that's right, we can just carry another charger about *sigh*.

Re:Battery... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674997)

Just make the screen turn off after 30 seconds. After all, nobody minds having to press a button whenever they want to check the time.
Truly, the perfect accessory that we ape-descended lifeforms (who are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea) have been waiting for.

Re:Battery... (1)

lobiusmoop (305328) | about a year ago | (#44675371)

Or how about maybe an old-school low-power always-on grey-scale reflective LCD, sunlight readable - like digital watches have been using forever.

Re:Battery... (2)

ncohafmuta (577957) | about a year ago | (#44675023)

The screen is 1/3 the size of a high-end smartphone. The resolution is 1/4 that of a high-end smartphone. The battery is 1/4 that of a high-end smartphone. Sounds fine.

Re:Battery... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675073)

Current smartphones rarely last more than a day. Doesn't sound fine at all for a watch.

Re:Battery... (2)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675529)

It depends on how you use the TrueSmart. Say if you use as a standby for that important message esp. when you don't want to or cannot bring your smartphone (swimming, jogging, day at the beach), and still want to be notified say when that girl / guy (or boss / client) finally replies your message. You could go standby for up to 100 hours. We are certainly not suggesting to replace your regular smartphone with TrueSmart, more of a complement and extension.

Re:Battery... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675609)

A use case predicated on constantly swapping SIM cards between devices doesn't seem very practical.

Re:Battery... (1)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | about a year ago | (#44675657)

What can you tell about battery life & daily usage & charging? 100hr is a mere 4 days.

1) How is it supposed to work on day to day: whenever I get home, I take off the watch, put it on my desk and connect to the charger?
2) What if I want to spend 2 weeks in mountains?
3) Can I charge in a car [wikipedia.org] ?
4) What about travelling & battery consumption - I discovered that while in my current (crappy) phone battery lasts about 3 days, it lasts only 6 to 8 hours while I am travelling by car across my country - it must be due to constant seeking&switching of phone cell towers. How does the smartwatch cope with that?
5) Is it possible to carry around some extra batteries (to spend 2 weeks in mountains, you know :)

Some other points you want to make about battery?

PS: reposting this question in a battery thread

Re:Battery... (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675399)

Hah 60 minutes that's barely a challenge with the technology these days. Standby time is 100 hours. We're field testing active usage times now and should cover this topic in our video blogs later this week. Without batting an eyelid, it's gonna be way more than 60 minutes for sure! :-) We're talking the latest low-power energy efficient processors, not something from a couple years back.

Rather useless (2)

Cyfun (667564) | about a year ago | (#44674935)

Pro's:
1) Its small size can be convenient in an era of bulky phones.
2) Attached to your body, it will theoretically be harder to lose it or let it get stolen.

Con's:
1) The screen is going to be too small to be very usable.
2) Battery life will likely suck since it is also too small.
3) With such a small screen, will be difficult to use, and you won't get many buttons, if any.
4) You can only use it one-handed.
5) The screen will probably get scratched to fuck since it sticks out from your wrist, and will probably stick out farther than your average watch.
6) Hot battery may get uncomfortable.

IMHO, smart watches are a great idea, but only as a bluetooth device for alerting you to new messages, calls and emails; using as a microphone Dick Tracy-style, and of course for checking the time. As a full-fledged smartphone, though, they're far too small to be that useful, but they might be decent as more of a dumb-phone for only making calls and such.

Walk up to the ladies and ask (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44674939)

if they want to see your BIG DICK . . . TRACY watch.

Does it take snapshots? Vids? Want to see the reactions. Direct upload to FB?

Pocket version, please (1)

trumpetplayer (520581) | about a year ago | (#44674957)

I'd be very interested in a pocket version (that's with no bracelet). I have thin wrists and tend to wear small, light watches or no watch at all. But since all I use to carry stuff around when I leave the house is my pockets (I never carry purses or bags), I like to take very little with me (typically small wallet + key ring + phone), and reducing the phone size by a factor of 4 or 5 would make it a lot more comfortable in my pocket.

Re:Pocket version, please (1)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675443)

What is your wrist size? We designed the TrueSmart to look like a watch and feel like a watch, according to watch sizes. It's watch face is 45mm, slightly larger than a dress watch, smaller than a sports watch. Tell us your wrist size (width and if possible also circumference) we'll check that out and reply.

Too ugly (1, Insightful)

aaaaaaargh! (1150173) | about a year ago | (#44674961)

...like all digital watches without hands. Sorry, 'smart watches' will never be relevant for anyone but a few geeks without taste.

Re:Too ugly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675083)

You don't know shit about taste. You use absolutes and simple rules without understanding why.
The amount of hands on the watch is irrelevant and historically people who say 'never' have always ended up looking like fools.

This watch might not be great, but none of the reasons you named are valid.

Re:Too ugly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675269)

You don't know shit about taste.

Yes I do - regarding watches, at least.

The amount of hands on the watch is irrelevant

You're wrong, presumably because you have no taste. There is not a single watch on earth without hands that looks even presentable, let alone good.

historically people who say 'never' have always ended up looking like fools

You're wrong about that one, too. It only looks that way because of selective apprehension.

the crucial problem with this product (0)

jkg2 (2751749) | about a year ago | (#44675055)

I think the developer and many others are missing the crucial problem with this product and with this type of idea in general: interacting with a watch that does anything more than tell the time and date makes the wearer appear to be a giant dork. This has not changed since the days of the early 80s calculator watch; any consumer foolish enough to bring attention to their “cool watch” is immediately singled out as a dork, nerd, geek, or generally friendless loner/brainiac type. Don’t even get me started on TALKING into your watch.

Re: the crucial problem with this product (3, Funny)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44675103)

any consumer foolish enough to bring attention to their âoecool watchâ is immediately singled out as a dork, nerd, geek, or generally friendless loner/brainiac type.

Fortunately, anyone who can afford this watch has left school and is now in the "real world". At that point you can cease to care, tell the other person to fuck off, or call the police if they get violent.

Re: the crucial problem with this product (2)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675455)

It's not a must to talk into your Smartwatch if you prefer not to. You can simply use it for notifications, urgent messages. I do remember a time too when using a mobile phone in public was considered "rude" and frowned upon. Not trying to change your mind, it's something personal, we understand that. Just hoping you would keep an open mind and "watch" this new thing :-)

Knowing what a battery hog Android is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675243)

...on a smartphone, this watch sounds like a very, very annoying story waiting to be told. I suspect this "watch" will need recharging at least once per day. Seriously, Android for a watch... what a lousy idea.

The right direction (2)

DeBaas (470886) | about a year ago | (#44675279)

Since 'smart watches' were introduced I've personally believed that they were doing it the wrong way around. I'd rather have a watch that has radio and can do the basics (call/text) and have a mini tablet that tethers with the watch for it's connection.

Now for me for this to become really interesting they'd have to:
- waterproof them
- partner with the better watch maker brands to make the watches look like 'normal watches' (for texting they could use the divers ring as an input device, just turn to right letter and press)
- include car opening remote control (why not)
- include a mini Bluetooth receiver that you can 'un-click' from the watch and hold close to your ear to make the calls less ''knight rider calls kitt'

Great for going to the beach. No longer have to worry about your keys, phone when taking a swim. And no longer a need to carry your phone around all the time as it is around your wrist. There are many occasions I'd rather leave my smartphone at home or in my desk as long as I still can be reached

Re:The right direction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675377)

seems that TruSmart responds quite quickly to questions it wants to answer but nowhere is there a response to the battery life! It reminds me of my time in Thailand, as soon as you had an issue with a good or service, they would forget how to speak english, which they were speaking perfectly before the conflict.

Re:The right direction (2)

OmateTrueSmart (3030561) | about a year ago | (#44675501)

Cool, a watch indeed is a very personal thing since it is something you wear rather than put in the pocket. We have kept very strictly to watch designs, going for a look that looks and feels like a watch. We've kept the size at 45mm, according to watch sizes, that's slightly larger than a dress watch, smaller than a sports watch. Omate Truesmart: - is waterproof - you can text on the screen itself (using a combination of special onscreen keyboard enhancer included, voice-to-text, swipe gestures, gesture controls) - you can call with it (built-in water-resistant speaker / mic) - you can connect Bluetooth devices (bluetooth headsets, bluetooth keyboards etc), if that's your preference So in a sense we are close to your idea of a Smartwatch other than these (which although not included in the shipped package, can be achieved too): - for texting they could use the divers ring as an input device : we've got a supporter on our Google+ community who is exactly going to do that, make a ring that can be connected to the TrueSmart via bluetooth - car opening remote control (why not) : yes why not, that's the spirit!! :-) some after-market car remotes uses Wifi, that's absolutely possible, or add a simple Wifi-to-RF controller device (available in the market) and voila, control it from TrueSmart watch Close, pretty close :-)

Re:The right direction (1)

DeBaas (470886) | about a year ago | (#44675535)

Nice :-) I'll be following this

Another kickstarter project... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675401)

... that will amount to nothing! I'm so excited.

Has there been a single real, successful business out of kickstarter? kickstarter is to business as starbucks is to novel writing.

Watches are stupid (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44675645)

The last time I wore a watch was high school. It was a stupid swatch. Once I started playing volleyball and other sports, I stopped wearing watches. In fact, I resist having anything on my fingers or wrist.

To me a watch is a dead technology. When ever I see some guy wearing a huge watch or rolex, I think "more money than brains!"

Smart watch will always be a nitch product. The market for watches has been declining for 2 decades.

Meh (1)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about a year ago | (#44675739)

The smart wearable device fad will come and go, like it has in the past. I don't see much point in trying to cram technology into something with a small screen, it just not practical for much more than telling time and wireless communication to a headset. And do I need to start wearing smart glasses to pair with my smartwatch and then wave my hands in the air or talk to myself like a crazy person to get things done.

The Smart Watch and Glasses fad will probably be the most annoying technical meme in the history of mankind. I don't look forward to a bunch of crazed hipster sociopaths wandering the streets aimlessly trying to Tweet and update Facebook using these things. I mean the only difference between these Glass and Watch wearing hipsters and zombies is that zombies are driven by a sense of purpose.

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