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Will Robots Replace Rent-a-Cops?

timothy posted about 8 months ago | from the gradual-and-inexorable dept.

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Daniel_Stuckey writes "Now, an EU-funded, £7.2 million ($11 million USD) collaborative project, called Strands, is underway in England to develop 4D, artificial intelligence for security and care applications. It aims to produce intelligent robo-sentinels that can patrol areas, and learn to detect abnormalities in human behavior. Could their project eventually replace security guards with robots? It looks possible. Strands, as Nick Hawes of the University of Birmingham said, will 'develop novel approaches to extract spatio-temporal structure from sensor data gathered during months of autonomous operation,' to develop intelligence that can then 'exploit [those] structures to yield adaptive behavior in highly demanding, real-world security and care scenarios.'"

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This sounds familiar... (5, Funny)

rwyoder (759998) | about 8 months ago | (#44721033)

"Please put down your weapon! You have 20 seconds to comply!"

Re:This sounds familiar... (4, Insightful)

khasim (1285) | about 8 months ago | (#44721107)

Damn! You beat me to it. Anyway, from TFA:

Strands, as Nick Hawes of the University of Birmingham said, will "develop novel approaches to extract spatio-temporal structure from sensor data gathered during months of autonomous operation," to develop intelligence that can then "exploit [those] structures to yield adaptive behavior in highly demanding, real-world security and care scenarios."

The key problem with that is that the subjects the robot is studying will know that they are being studied and will be able to alter their behaviour to change what the robot "learns".

Re:This sounds familiar... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721109)

I say, if you don't mind old chap, would you mind complying?

Re:This sounds familiar... (2)

slick7 (1703596) | about 8 months ago | (#44721381)

"Please put down your weapon! You have 20 seconds to comply!"

They won't be taken seriously until someone loses an eye. When a robot kills a human and the courts declare it justifiable, open season begins.

Re:This sounds familiar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721407)

The version from the current times (with thundering robot voice): "Please put down your weapon and have a look of our latest insurance offerings! You have 20 seconds to make a purchase! Please tell your friend of our superior service! 15! Viagra, now at only $5.99! Buy one, have a condom for free! Feeling depressed!? Trouble sleeping!? 8! Try Xanax and sleep well tonight! 3! Why wait!? 0!"

Re: Can't we just hire, out of work Daleks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722971)

I am sure they were hit hard by the economic down turn as well and could use the work.
The reason they don't deliver pizza is because they can't get into and out of cars.

Re:This sounds familiar... (1)

pbjones (315127) | about 8 months ago | (#44721495)

Ok, hands up who thought of posting the same quote! o/

Re:This sounds familiar... (1)

gagol (583737) | about 8 months ago | (#44721513)

Having watched robocop as a kid, it was very good. Rewatch it as adult, the movie stinks. So no, count me out.

Re:This sounds familiar... (1)

lxs (131946) | about 8 months ago | (#44722753)

My reaction was the complete opposite. Hated it as a teen, watched it again recently and found it eerily prophetic. Sure, the story is dumb and predictable '80s action fare, but the world it takes place in is surprisingly well constructed.

Not to worry though, the inevitable bland remake will be out next year. [wikipedia.org]

Hack (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721557)

return to sender

A threat to abnormals everywhere (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 8 months ago | (#44721587)

I wish that would be the case. Then only those gun-slinging Libertarians would have a problem. But what if it's:

"Please act normal. You have 20 seconds to comply."

What if in the future the mere display of "abnormalities in human behavior", whatever that means to whoever decides, itself becomes a crime.

Re:This sounds familiar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721827)

We need Robo MPs, Robo senators etc, that is what we need.

Re: It works in futurama (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722973)

And mom could be president.

Re:This sounds familiar... (1)

hutsell (1228828) | about 8 months ago | (#44722057)

"Please put down your weapon! You have 20 seconds to comply!"

Is this a worthy comparison? An alternative remembrance, THX 1138 [media-imdb.com] being interrogated; also, the main focus of its movie's poster. [wikimedia.org]

Overlords (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721041)

I, for one, welcome our new robotic overlords!

Re:Overlords (3, Insightful)

narcc (412956) | about 8 months ago | (#44721231)

Or you could just push them over, slowly walk up a set of stairs, toss a towel over them, or any of a zillion simple ways to significantly disable them that even the fattest mall-cop would easily overcome.

Re:Overlords (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721259)

Or you could just push them over, slowly walk up a set of stairs, toss a towel over them, or any of a zillion simple ways to significantly disable them that even the fattest mall-cop would easily overcome.

You are missing the point I think. Most security guards don't do anything but observer and report. They will not under any circumstance attempt to prevent the crime from taking place. Armed security of course is different, but TFA seems more geared towards replacing observer and report guards since we can pretty much cover that will technology anyway.

Just like the automated cars from an article the other day, if your job requires no real training, it will probably be replaced by machines sooner then later.

Re:Overlords (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 8 months ago | (#44721393)

But they would respond exactly like the fat mall cop would - by calling the actual cops. It would be more difficult to prevent a robot mall cop from doing that than a human mall cop. The robot mall cop could also easily be rigged with a "dead man's switch" so that if contact is lost, cops are notified.

Re:Overlords (1)

icebike (68054) | about 8 months ago | (#44721497)

You can taunt the mall cop all you want, and there is not much he can do.
But spray paint him and you probably will be arrested. Probably just property damage if you spray paint the robot.
When a flash mob forms and disrupts all the robots at once, the police will quickly realize the false alarms aren't worth the trouble.

Re:Overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722255)

Won't happen. People said the same thing about speed cameras and red light cameras (that people will be taking those out with spray paint, or high caliber rounds.) Couple people get 10 years for malicious mischief and felony destruction of state property, and those cameras stay untouched.

Re:Overlords (2)

blindseer (891256) | about 8 months ago | (#44722529)

Couple people get 10 years for malicious mischief and felony destruction of state property, and those cameras stay untouched.

Then explain to me how destroying cameras in the UK has become a new form of recreation? They've got destruction of government cameras down to a science.

With suspended cameras they hang an old tire from it, fill the bottom with gasoline, and put a match to it. The flames will crack lenses, boil away electronics, and make a general mess of things. Cameras closer to the ground are generally treated to baseball bats and pry bars. Ones out of reach from ladders or bats, or a potential for bodily harm from burning, get pelted with paintballs.

Given a large enough population, and enough cameras, and you will reach the statistical certainty that cameras will be destroyed by someone that doesn't give a shit. Unless the people responsible meet swift and sure punishment word will spread that it's open season on cameras. Which is precisely what happened in the UK.

Re:Overlords (1)

Nyder (754090) | about 8 months ago | (#44722745)

Or you could just push them over, slowly walk up a set of stairs, toss a towel over them, or any of a zillion simple ways to significantly disable them that even the fattest mall-cop would easily overcome.

Ah, I see you grew up watching Doctor Who defeat the daleks in various ways...

Why bother patrolling? (2)

ron_ivi (607351) | about 8 months ago | (#44721053)

If you're going for automation - why not just fixed cameras and other sensors covering the whole area?

Re:Why bother patrolling? (2)

Kjella (173770) | about 8 months ago | (#44721167)

If you're going for automation - why not just fixed cameras and other sensors covering the whole area?

Cost and because they're also easier to map out and avoid? It doesn't need to be everywhere, it's enough that it could be everywhere as that makes the risk non-zero no matter the plan. I don't see this as an either-or, you'd want basic surveillance of the whole area with roaming security to add some dynamic to the system.

Re:Why bother patrolling? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721225)

Humans are cheap and better at the job. The only way humans aren't cheaper is if you neglect to account for regular maintenance (which requires humans) and replacement costs. Humans are also easier to replace with other humans if they don't work out and tend to upgrade their knowledge and experience without requiring expensive new models.

Fixed cameras and sensors may not be as dynamic, but it's trivial to carpet an area with them so completely that it doesn't matter if an attacker knows they are there. For most applications almost certainly at a cost less than the same thing with robotics and experimental AI.

Re:Why bother patrolling? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721535)

Now, consider if you hire the human, by law, you also have to have a health care plan. Seen the premiums for these things?

Although I like the idea of universal healthcare, I do not like the way it is funded. Way way way too many middlemen who provide absolutely no medical assistance, yet draw top pay ( insurance administration ).

I see way too many buildings with some health-related topic on the nameplate, yet I would be hard pressed to find a stethoscope, or even a tongue depressor anywhere around there. Just buildings full of leeches we can ill afford.

Re:Why bother patrolling? (1)

icebike (68054) | about 8 months ago | (#44721509)

If you're going for automation - why not just fixed cameras and other sensors covering the whole area?

Cost and because they're also easier to map out and avoid? It doesn't need to be everywhere, it's enough that it could be everywhere as that makes the risk non-zero no matter the plan. I don't see this as an either-or, you'd want basic surveillance of the whole area with roaming security to add some dynamic to the system.

Somehow non of those reasons have stopped the British. An article published in CCTV Image magazine estimates that the number of cameras in the UK is 1.85 million. And that's just the public ones run by the police.

Re:Why bother patrolling? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721461)

If someone is wearing a mask and there is no security guard to confront them how is the camera to confront them? I suppose the camera could call the cops as could the security guard (and security guards technically aren't required to attempt to detain anyone or physically obstruct their pathway but I imagine the risk of having to circumvent an actual person, even with a mask, is greater than the risk of just having to quickly enter a premise with a mask, quickly take something, and leave before any cops show up).

Re:Why bother patrolling? (1)

timeOday (582209) | about 8 months ago | (#44721701)

If you're going for automation - why not just fixed cameras and other sensors covering the whole area?

There's still a fairly low limit on how many video streams one person can attend to, especially if it's busy. Roving robots may not be useful, but what is happening is the cameras are getting smarter in where they look, and when to alert the operator: [forbes.com]

It's not just law enforcement that has taken note of this. Retail outlets such as Macys, Babys âRâ(TM) Us, and CVS have installed systems in some of their stores that can spot shoppers who do unusual thingsâ"such as remove many items from a shelf at once, open a case that is normally locked, or walk suspiciously through the aisles.

"abnormalities in human behavior"? (1)

CmdrEdem (2229572) | about 8 months ago | (#44721059)

Since the human nature is a violent one, I don't think violent behavior is abnormal, only not accepted in most circumstances by our social standards. The robot will detect behavior disapproved by the government that bought it.

Re:"abnormalities in human behavior"? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 8 months ago | (#44721123)

The problem with this concept is exactly what you pointed to but for a different reason. Nobody will obey a fucking robot's orders! As someone said above, cameras will do just as well. Can these robots use tasers or shoot people with firearms? Many "rent a cops" are off-duty police officers earning a little beer money.

Re:"abnormalities in human behavior"? (3, Interesting)

djupedal (584558) | about 8 months ago | (#44721317)

Can these robots use tasers or shoot people with firearms? Many "rent a cops" are off-duty police officers earning a little beer money.

I'd rather trust an armed robot over a rent-a-cop any day. Last time one shot at me, the real cops that showed up hauled him off and lamented I didn't use the firearm we all agreed wasn't under the seat of my car...

Re:"abnormalities in human behavior"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722741)

You are a puffed up bullshitter and your obvious lies impress no one with 2 brain cells to rub together.

Re:"abnormalities in human behavior"? (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 8 months ago | (#44721175)

does robo inherently imply AI, a better description might be drone-sentinels... maybe

Re:"abnormalities in human behavior"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721181)

Since the human nature is a violent one, I don't think violent behavior is abnormal, only not accepted in most circumstances by our social standards. The robot will detect behavior disapproved by the government that bought it.

There's a difference between "abnormal" (which violence is) and "unnatural" (which violence isn't).

Re:"abnormalities in human behavior"? (1)

gagol (583737) | about 8 months ago | (#44721563)

Considering our specie spent most of its time killing other animals to survive, I would say violence is both "natural" and "normal". Education steers us away from it. (I know, me masturbate flies here)

attention whore (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721063)

submitter is pimping his own blog

Fast foward already (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721101)

Can we just spend bilions in developing a self aware AI and finally we can all be un-employed.

Or dead for either reason.

Not ready yet (1)

Anduril1986 (1908840) | about 8 months ago | (#44721115)

An AI can only tell with maybe 70% accuracy if I'm a human or a spam bot, let alone identify 'abnormal' behaviours. Of course now with the internet it has access to billions of social interactions to establish a baseline:

*****
Possible subject identified....
Scanning social media to establish baseline behavioural norms....
Behaviours identified....
Subject found to not be dressing a cat in a strange costume or ranting narcissistically - Abnormality identified....
*****

Maybe not...

Only if you can pay less Insurance (4, Interesting)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 8 months ago | (#44721127)

The reality of a security guard is your main job is...to lower insurance costs. The reasons if you need to be a serious criminal to want to go through a human, these robots don't have deterrent...but I suspect nothing like the costs. The fact is accountants will decide this one.

In case your confused about what a security guard really does this is a clip from mike leighs Naked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90sl94g7PE [youtube.com]

Officer Friendly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721141)

Just wait until some kid puts a "Kick Me" sign on the back of a robot.

Blue screen of death kills jay walker (2)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about 8 months ago | (#44721149)

A pedestrian crossing the street outside the marked cross walk at Abner Ave. was killed today when a Patrolling Robot experienced a malfunction while writing a traffic citation at the scene. Authorities aren't clear yet on what happened but when paramedics arrived at the scene they found the robot's probe impaled in the suspects anus and a blank blue screen indicating an IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL exception.

hm.... (2, Funny)

metalmaster (1005171) | about 8 months ago | (#44721151)

gimme a roomba, a broom stick and a pivoting webcam.

What are abnormalities? (2)

betterprimate (2679747) | about 8 months ago | (#44721153)

For the rent-a-cop, abnormalities are: black, brown, poor, disabled or disordered, etc., ... unprepared, or even intelligent. Being intelligent is just too suspicious. Can the robot do all that?

Everytime I visit the grocery store nearby, it's like a game of pacman. They have about six security guards per isle and they follow me around like dim-witted ghosts. I have to hurriedly snatch up my bread, coffee, and milk to make it safely to checkout.

Re:What are abnormalities? (1)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about 8 months ago | (#44721397)

Intelligent doesn't imply smart.

Perhaps all the furtive speedy grabbing of items is what leads you to look suspicious?

At any rate, if this is your local grocery store, the smart thing to do is get to know the people that work there and let them get to know you. Perhaps you are just as prejudiced as they are, and there's no cure for prejudice like exposure to the truth.

Re:What are abnormalities? (1)

betterprimate (2679747) | about 8 months ago | (#44721643)

Intelligent doesn't imply smart.

Perhaps all the furtive speedy grabbing of items is what leads you to look suspicious?

At any rate, if this is your local grocery store, the smart thing to do is get to know the people that work there and let them get to know you. Perhaps you are just as prejudiced as they are, and there's no cure for prejudice like exposure to the truth.

That's a reasonable assumption, but no, they're just underpaid unintelligible extra-distrustful assholes. This is my local grocery store and I am doing the smart thing of getting to know them: they're entitled, underpaid, unintelligible, extra-distruful assholes. Even striking up a conversation with the cashier is suspicious. The front door should read: "Caution: Do not make eye contact, do not divert from grocery list, DO go at extra slow pace. All abnormalities are treated as hostile combatants."

It's a chain store in MX. What more can I expect? You must live in Narnia. Around here acting like a sincere human being is the stuff of fables.

You know, you talk big. I'd like to see what you'd do when you're ganged up on by six security guards with sticks while you speak in a shaky pre-pubescent voice, "I just want to know where the Cap'N Crunch is." Let's see how tough you are then, huh?

It's a hostile land, man. Let me tell you.

Re:What are abnormalities? (3, Insightful)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about 8 months ago | (#44721785)

I have the unfortunate predilection of acting the same towards everybody and being extremely idealistic. Growing up english in quebec there were always situations like this. Granted, I wouldn't call my behaviour tough, just naive and autistic. However, I never backed down and things always worked out in the end.

I'm not sure if MX is supposed to stand for mexico, but when I was living there, no matter the attitude of the person, if I treated them like any other human (and I do that because I see them as any other human) they were unable to do anything but treat me the same. It's amazing how treating others the same as you would treat yourself can even get police that were looking for bribes to let you go free. Once, an enraged crack addict in withdrawal broke his hand against a concrete wall because he couldn't bring himself to harm me because of the way I had treated him.

Change the way you see them in your head and you might find that they change the way they act towards you.

Re:What are abnormalities? (1)

happyhamster (134378) | about 8 months ago | (#44721899)

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:What are abnormalities? (1)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about 8 months ago | (#44721949)

Nothing new under the sun. Just putting into practice esoteric ideas from millenia ago to test their merit as any good scientist should.

Re:What are abnormalities? (2)

m00sh (2538182) | about 8 months ago | (#44721485)

Everytime I visit the grocery store nearby, it's like a game of pacman. They have about six security guards per isle and they follow me around like dim-witted ghosts. I have to hurriedly snatch up my bread, coffee, and milk to make it safely to checkout.

I have no idea what kind of grocery store you go to but the one I go to has hundreds of cameras mounted above the isles. If they follow me, they do so in the comfort of their central room where they can view the camera feeds.

Since there is only one exit to the grocery store, they can always nab me there if needed.

Plus, most stores employ plain clothes loss prevention agents who disguise themselves as shoppers. They get rewarded for every shoplifter they catch because if you are caught shoplifting, they will offer to make a deal with you for $400 to not press charges in the local courts.

Re:What are abnormalities? (1)

betterprimate (2679747) | about 8 months ago | (#44721665)

I live in Mexico City. Where the fuck do you live, man? It sounds like everyone where you live is already robots.

Re:What are abnormalities? (1)

tragedy (27079) | about 8 months ago | (#44721749)

They get rewarded for every shoplifter they catch because if you are caught shoplifting, they will offer to make a deal with you for $400 to not press charges in the local courts.

What are their documentation requirements? If they don't have to provide video evidence, any moderately talented swindling extortionist could leverage that situation to make thousands of dollars a day framing people.

Re:What are abnormalities? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722205)

"They get rewarded for every shoplifter they catch because if you are caught shoplifting, they will offer to make a deal with you for $400 to not press charges in the local courts."

This may have been true back in the day but this is no longer the case. Any kind of reward for a loss prevention agent on a per shoplifter basis increases the likelihood of them making a bad stop/customer incident. This is a potential liability for employers because if they fire the loss prevention agent for making a bad stop the agent then has cause to sue for wrongful termination because they can say they were pressured into making the stop because of the incentive in addition to whatever happens from the customers potential lawsuit.

Most states have a civil recovery statue, every retailer I am familiar with uses it. Basically when you are stopped for shoplifting you will get a notice either on the spot or in the mail telling you to pay a fee (varies by state) The civil recovery statue can never be used to "make a deal" (at least when it comes to criminal courts) and is completely separate from anything criminally.

  Don't steal from stores, there is probably someone watching you.

Re:What are abnormalities? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721973)

They are doing it wrong. My brother always wore disguises ... that stinky guy that hasn't shaved in a week? He's not a potential criminal he's looking for shop lifters.

i can't wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721155)

to have my own personal robot army

One thing is for sure (1)

msobkow (48369) | about 8 months ago | (#44721161)

No matter how shitty the AI, it can't be any dumber than the typical rent-a-cop.

Re:One thing is for sure (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about 8 months ago | (#44721261)

And that's exactly why it's a bad idea. I don't think I'm stereotyping too badly when I say that the percentage of thugs and bullies is much higher in the rent-a-cop population than the population at large. Before you disagree too strenuously, think back to your last encounter with the TSA. Now picture all these people out of work.

Re:One thing is for sure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721307)

Now picture all these people out of work.

Under the watchful eye of security robots?

Re:One thing is for sure (1)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about 8 months ago | (#44721411)

Please don't extrapolate from your country to other countries. Perhaps it's different in the UK, I know through experience it isn't that way in most of Canada (haven't seen it all!).

NYPD BlueBot (4, Funny)

Jessified (1150003) | about 8 months ago | (#44721227)

"It aims to produce intelligent robo-sentinels that can patrol areas, and learn to detect abnormalities in human behavior."

Forget "abnormalities," if they just programmed the robots to detect and harass black people, you could replace the entire NYPD!

We already have seven of these advanced models... (3, Funny)

pubwvj (1045960) | about 8 months ago | (#44721239)

We already have seven of these. They're called D.O.Gs. Work great. Highly intelligent and programmable. Self directed. Loyal. Obedient. Self-replicating. Able to power themselves off of local rodents and farm wastes (meat & bones). They're also good at herding livestock.

Re:We already have seven of these advanced models. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722609)

Robots don't leave "baked goods", get fleas, or crew on valuables. But viruses are common to both. No the viruses themselves but different virii.

I for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721249)

Robot overlords joke keeps getting less and less funny.

Daleks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721275)

Exterrminate! Exxxxterminate! Exterminate!

Paul Blart, Robo-Cop (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721279)

I don't have anything more to this joke. Fill in the details as you will.

Who Will Protect the Robo-cops? (3, Insightful)

cookYourDog (3030961) | about 8 months ago | (#44721337)

Good luck patrolling the streets with machines composed of rare earth metals, proprietary design, and expensive hardware. Unless these things can protect themselves (hint: no), expect them to be walking (or rolling) targets for salvage.

waiting to follow the worms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721339)

intelligent robo-sentinels that can patrol areas, and learn to detect abnormalities in human behavior.

Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to put on a black shirt.
Waiting to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors.
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens.
Waiting for the queens and the coons
and the reds and the jews.
Waiting to follow the worms.

Would you like to see Britannia
Rule again, my friend?
All you have to do is follow the worms.
Would you like to send our colored cousins
Home again, my friend?

All you need to do is follow the worms.

Re:waiting to follow the worms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721359)

Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!

captcha: repress

Something is wrong. (2)

houbou (1097327) | about 8 months ago | (#44721349)

This is really where we need to balance our drive for automation with the need for human intuition and thinking.

I will bet that it will be easy at first to hack these robots.

I'm weary about more and more machines taking the place of humans in the workforce.

Actually, what I'm really weary about is that it's great to have new technologies which can replace human labor, but there should also be something to offset where the human labor gets a chance to learn new skills to get other types of employment.

After all, a person who can't get a fair chance at work, well, that's simply wrong, as it remove this person some dignity.

Society needs to balance all of this, so that everybody has a chance to contribute to something and get monetary rewards.

It's simple economics.

This is where for once, our government should step in and balance things out, for the good of the people, who are also taxpayers. Promote the work, promote human labor and promote the moving of currency so that everybody has a chance to live.

Will it be easy to trip up with false positives (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 8 months ago | (#44721365)

Will it be easy to trip up with false positives or other ways to tick the rent a rob cop?

Re:Will it be easy to trip up with false positives (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721603)

Crowd source a group dressed as clowns to dance past the tin-can. I'm sure it's programming wouldn't be able to find a solution.

How eventually? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 8 months ago | (#44721375)

Will their project blah blah blah? No, they'll be probably dead by the time we're actually replacing human rent-a-dicks with ED-209s in any notable numbers. But over a long enough time scale, isn't this sort of inevitable? If we don't blow ourselves up first, or make a singularity or something.

Who will defend the robot? (1)

manu0601 (2221348) | about 8 months ago | (#44721443)

Many people will have trouble killing a human, because empathy creates a barrier. On the other hand, I suspect anyone can "kill" a robot without any hesitation nor any remorse.

Prisons as well (1)

b4upoo (166390) | about 8 months ago | (#44721585)

Patrolling isles in prisons is one good use of these devices. One could slide by a call once every three minutes and report sounds of distress etc..
              The greatest issue with this sort of thing is the loss of jobs for humans. There are large condominium projects where a swarm of these robots could be much better than one or two human guards. Fire sensors and scream detection as well as mobile cams could discourage all kinds of crime. But there are a considerable number of people who get by in life with pay checks from guard companies. Whet will become of them? Will we force them into crime to simply gain food and shelter?

The Obligatory Post... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44721589)

Coming soon: SKYNET!

If I recall (2)

Dereck1701 (1922824) | about 8 months ago | (#44721659)

If I recall correctly there are some military bases in the western United States that have had ARMED robot sentries for the better part of a decade. I suppose these are not exactly the smartest robots ever, little more than unmanned ATVs with sensor packages driving preprogrammed routes looking for movement/heat sources. If they find one they target their gun and wait for orders from a manned security post. While I don't have a real problem with security drones arming them with anything (lethal or non) is a bad idea, many authority figures already have god complex, I can only imagine it getting worse if they have the power of life, death & excruciating pain at the behest of their keyboard.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/02/army-gets-more/ [wired.com]

Well, when you put it like that, yes. (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about 8 months ago | (#44721683)

Could their project eventually replace security guards with robots?

When you put it like that yes, By definition of could and eventually.

Just like everything else.

I wonder if detectible abnormalities in behavior (2)

mark_reh (2015546) | about 8 months ago | (#44721941)

include having dark skin...

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Robotic cop supplies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722445)

I just patented the robotic doughnut.

A2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44722659)

BISHOP
Well, that explains it then. The A2s always were a bit twitchy. That could never happen now with our behavioral inhibitors. It is impossible for me to harm or by omission of action, allow to be harmed, a human being.

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