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First Asteroid Discovered At Uranus's Leading Trojan Point

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the set-course-for-the-tilted-planet dept.

Space 90

LeadSongDog writes "Space.com is reporting on a 60km comet-like body in Lagrangian orbit around the Sun, locked to Uranus's leading Trojan Point. This means a distant, but fairly accessible supply of water-ice, hence: reaction mass, hydrogen and oxygen for robotic miners if we can just get them there with an energy source. 'The sun and Earth have two Trojan points, one leading ahead of Earth, known as the L-4 point of the system, and one trailing behind, its L-5 point. The sun and other planets have Lagrangian points also, with asteroids seen at those the sun shares with Jupiter, Neptune and Mars. Scientists thought the Trojan points of Uranus, the seventh planet from the sun, were too unstable to host asteroids."

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Baby, lead my trojan point in Uranus (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44724943)

pls

Re:Baby, lead my trojan point in Uranus (5, Funny)

rudy_wayne (414635) | about a year ago | (#44725361)

Slashdot -- Celebrating 16 years of anus jokes

Re:Baby, lead my trojan point in Uranus (-1, Offtopic)

rudy_wayne (414635) | about a year ago | (#44725433)

Slashdot -- Celebrating 16 years of anus jokes

Oh wait . . . Slashdot IS an anus joke.

Never mind.

Re:Baby, lead my trojan point in Uranus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726517)

Assteroid
That is all.

Re:Baby, lead my trojan point in Uranus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44729343)

Ass+Terds+Hemorrhoids=Asteroids

Oh Dear (5, Funny)

Oysterville (2944937) | about a year ago | (#44724949)

That headline caused the heads of many a troll to explode.

Re:Oh Dear (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725049)

I'm already screaming internally, externally and digitally.

Must. Resist. Temptation. To make. Sex joke.
Warp speed, Mr Sulu.

Re:Oh Dear (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725299)

Why are you wiggling your rancid little asshole in front of my fetid cock? Do you want your rotting rectum stuffed with a smelly cock that badly!? I'd be happy to oblige... What say you?

Re:Oh Dear (0)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year ago | (#44725337)

Must. Resist. Temptation....

I'm just trying to resist the temptation to make a more obfuscated story... planetary "trojan points", lagrangian orbits, reaction masses... I feel like I'm reading the minutes of the last astrophysics jamboree. I know its /. and everyone likes to compare penis sizes but do we really need the jargon? This isn't the American Journal of Astrophysicists.

Re:Oh Dear (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725797)

You're weird. There's nothing particularly jargony there.
I guess my 12-year-old might ask a couple of questions about vocabulary, but aren't we all adults here?

Re:Oh Dear (-1, Flamebait)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year ago | (#44725963)

You're weird. There's nothing particularly jargony there.

Don't be an ass. Knowledge of rediculously out-of-normal-experience phrases and nonsense isn't a measure of dick size. Its a measure of asshole size. Guess how big your's is measuring right now...?

Re:Oh Dear (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44729671)

You should not be reading this site, if you cannot do a simple google search for the phrases in question.

Knowledge should be sought, not presented to you on a platter. Why don't you fuck off back to Gawker or Mashable and get your watered down news there.

Re:Oh Dear (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year ago | (#44730427)

Guess how big your's is measuring right now...?

Guess what a greengrocer's apostrophe says about your education...

Re:Oh Dear (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | about a year ago | (#44732387)

Guess what a greengrocer's apostrophe says about your education...

Is suggests that he was educated with a radish. Hammered home. Sideways. Dry.

About what is deserved for succumbing to a "Uranus" joke.

Re:Oh Dear (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about a year ago | (#44731211)

Lagrangian points are 18th century stuff, asteroids are 19th century stuff, combining them and calling the result "trojans" is more 20th century or late 20th century stuff so that makes it advanced and recent.
Better editing would have introduced the "lagrangian point" term before mentioning L4 and L5, which are lagrangian points. The robotic mining part is space nuttery (why not mine from the giant planet itself?, there's more stuff and it's a cool idea too)

Re:Oh Dear (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | about a year ago | (#44732413)

(why not mine from the giant planet itself?, there's more stuff and it's a cool idea too)

... and the "surface" of the planet (cloud tops, actually) is at the bottom of a deep gravitational well. That is the "why not".

Re:Oh Dear (4, Funny)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | about a year ago | (#44725457)

Warp speed, Mr Sulu.

Yeah... THAT'S the guy you want maneuvering near Uranus...
Oh My!

Re:Oh Dear (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726087)

At least he's wearing protection.

Re:Oh Dear (1)

Maudib (223520) | about a year ago | (#44726539)

Its fine, his trojan is on point.

Re:Oh Dear (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year ago | (#44726863)

"Warp speed, Mr Sulu."

Mr. Sulu? You want him to race away from catty "ass-teroid" humor? I think George might be motivated to penetrate this mystery himself... Especially if he's wearing that Trojan.

Re:Oh Dear (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725131)

That's why in 2011 Uranus was renamed to avoid this kind of dumb joke.

Now it's called Urectum.

Re:Oh Dear (-1, Troll)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#44725411)

I thought the new name was Myanus?

Re:Oh Dear (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44727347)

Urectum? You nearly killled 'um!

Re:Oh Dear (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725293)

Everyone catches the Uranus and trojan puns, but almost no one nices the 'roids around Uranus pun.

Re:Oh Dear (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725405)

If only they could have worked "ejection" into it somewhere.

Wow.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44724953)

Uranus...leading Trojan point....sounds bad...

Firstborn (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44724971)

Wonder if there are any Eyes there

Looking forward to this :) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725005)

I'm just here for the comments ;)

Go to the Doctor... (4, Funny)

Smivs (1197859) | about a year ago | (#44725067)

...if Uranus has asteroids. He can give you some cream for it.

Re:Go to the Doctor... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725093)

My fetid penis and your rancid asshole were meant to be together! Just look at how smelly and disease-ridden they both are! I'll drill and drill and drill your feces-filled rectum with my repugnant cock until your asshole is a swimming pool for my little white tadpole friends! I can't wait until your feces and my diseased cum mix together to form The Elixir of Life! What say you?

Re:Go to the Doctor... (-1, Offtopic)

Guy Harris (3803) | about a year ago | (#44725429)

My fetid penis and your rancid asshole were meant to be together!

Only if you use a Trojan.

Re:Go to the Doctor... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725331)

Of course, it's only after having asteroids that you realize how Uranus benefits from a Trojan point.

Re:Go to the Doctor... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725495)

Shut the fuck up, fag.

Re:Go to the Doctor... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725651)

Surely they'd be assteroids?

Re: Go to the Doctor... (1)

Ukab the Great (87152) | about a year ago | (#44727661)

I'm guessing there would be a lot of uncomfortable probing with a sonic screwdriver and then he'd tell you Uranus has hosted quite a few unshielded Cybermen in the last couple of months.

At least its better (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725085)

than a Klingon on your Trojan.

Linux (-1)

Frankie70 (803801) | about a year ago | (#44725147)

That's why I run Linux. There are no trojans in linux.

Re:Linux (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725185)

Linux users don't have to worry about trojans since they have no call to ever use them.

Re:Linux (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725289)

Guess what's at the trojain point of Windows and Linux.

Re: Linux (1)

suso (153703) | about a year ago | (#44729255)

You're right that's how I ended up with two kids.

To bad it wasn't the trailing Trojan Point (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725155)

If so, they should name the asteroid hamster.

Re:To bad it wasn't the trailing Trojan Point (1)

Scarletdown (886459) | about a year ago | (#44725209)

This post wins the entire discussion.

Re:To bad it wasn't the trailing Trojan Point (0, Redundant)

dargaud (518470) | about a year ago | (#44725547)

I respectfully disagree, since it's hanging onto Uranus' orbit, it should be named Dingleberry. Or at the very least Klingon (or Clingon).

Re:To bad it wasn't the trailing Trojan Point (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about a year ago | (#44727999)

if they name the langrange Duck Tape, would it stick?

Aim carefully, use spellcheck... (-1)

tele2win (548658) | about a year ago | (#44725173)

the point of the trojan should point towards his/her anus... NOT uranus.

Looks like (1, Offtopic)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about a year ago | (#44725327)

someone forgot to wipe!

Oh boy (1)

lesincompetent (2836253) | about a year ago | (#44725329)

Someone has to change that planet's name ASAP.
Neil deGrasse Tyson are you listening?

Re:Oh boy (3, Interesting)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year ago | (#44725473)

Someone has to change that planet's name ASAP.
  Neil deGrasse Tyson are you listening?

It doesn't take an astrophysicist. Caelus is the roman equivalent, and less prone to bevis and butthead tag lines.

Re:Oh boy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726523)

No worries. We are considering other names. Urectum seems to be high on the list though...

Re:Oh boy (2)

Mateorabi (108522) | about a year ago | (#44726555)

According to Prof. Farnsworth they will have changed its name prior to the year 3000 to 'Urectum'.

Re:Oh boy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44729797)

Perhaps americans simply should starting education in school how to pronounce Uranus properly ... and while we are at it: the letter combination of "eu" like in Zeus or Europa needs fixing, too.
No wonder the old gods are all gone if no one even is able to call them bei theor proper name :)

Troll-proof headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725341)

MC Hammer [slashdot.org] memorial headline

Anyone trying to troll that headline is going to come up looking lame.

Well, it was a blast (2, Insightful)

Stiletto (12066) | about a year ago | (#44725353)

"Uranus" and "trojan" jokes. This is what Slashdot has become.

Re:Well, it was a blast (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725669)

Still downright refreshing compared to the usual libertarian politics and NSA paranoia.

Re:Well, it was a blast (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725735)

Libertarianism is idiocy, but "paranoia" about the NSA's scope creep has been well borne out.

Re:Well, it was a blast (1)

Guy Harris (3803) | about a year ago | (#44726713)

"paranoia" about the NSA's scope creep

"Scope creep", singular? So there's only one person at the NSA looking at us with a periscope? As long as he's not putting it in Uranus....

Re:Well, it was a blast (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44727291)

Nobody is forcing you to come here. Why don't you go back to Fox News and circle jerk over Hillary Clinton and Benghazi.

Re:Well, it was a blast (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725827)

Slashdot was really never anything better. I really only come here to troll anymore but let's be honest, there's next to no tech. Certainly no hard tech. The political opinions of the vast majority of the fucks here are a sad joke. Science is mostly a joke and what little informative information gets passed around isn't very advanced. Let's not even get into matters like IP where we're still dissecting the word "steal" after more than a decade.
 
Slashdot is like the local Vets bar... a bunch of old guys trading the same war stories that every one of them has heard dozens of times, drinking lousy draft piss water and arguing over wether the last guy up to bat was safe or not when he got to first base.
 
Meh. Better to just troll and at least get a bit of a chuckle out of it all.

Re:Well, it was a blast (1)

wooferhound (546132) | about a year ago | (#44726541)

That's No Moon . . .

distant, but fairly accessible (1)

foobsr (693224) | about a year ago | (#44725377)

good luck

CC.

Re:distant, but fairly accessible (1)

atherophage (2481624) | about a year ago | (#44725489)

All based on the possibly flawed assumption comets are composed of slushy ice and rocky dusty bits. The good folks at Thunderbolts.info have for years been gathering information which suggests cometary bodies are dry rocky objects. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt2EUToo&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UfvhvcT1lZA6KbSdh0K2EpH&index=3 [youtube.com]

Re:distant, but fairly accessible (2)

Zocalo (252965) | about a year ago | (#44725645)

Also pretty useless, I suspect. I can't imagine that there are all that many places that we might want to go that meet the criteria of both having Uranus' L4 or L5 point on route and not having a more viable alternative refuelling stop available. Maybe that will change if (and it's a very big "if") we discover that the Kuiper belt is a vast resource of valuable minerals and develop the technology to exploit it, but until then it's just an astronomical curiousity that might provide some useful information on what we can expect to find at more accessible trojan points. I think we'll see a Monolith Burger outlet at the Jovian L4/L5 points long before anything from Earth even visits here.

Re:distant, but fairly accessible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725713)

distant, but fairly accessible

... just like your mother.

Don't tell me you weren't all thinking it.

When will slashdot read the memo? (1, Funny)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44725399)

Due to unending tasteless jokes, Uranus is now known as Urectum.

What the point of a trojan leading asteroids into Urectum is, I am not sure, but it sounds like...

"Dammit Jim, I'm a physician, not your proctologist."

Stable? Unstable? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725441)

The trojan points are only meta-stable anyway. So for people to say that they thought the leading trojan point of Uranus was too unstable to capture an asteroid isn't thinking clearly. When was it captured? Last year? When will it leave the trojan point? In two weeks? They need to think about what "stable" and "unstable" mean in cosmological time. It can be unstable but still last in that configuration well past the time you and I die.

Planet mayhem (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#44725477)

The reputation of that planet is so damaged that I actually chewed out my daughter for "getting stuck with" Uranus. "But it was such a pretty blue", the naive little grade-schooler said.

"Next time don't dilly-dally and get in line early and pick a real planet, so that your family won't be embarrassed, you got that?"

"Yes, Daddy. Next time I'll pick Pluto....."

Re:Planet mayhem (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year ago | (#44725533)

The reputation of that planet is so damaged that I actually chewed out my daughter for "getting stuck with" Uranus. "But it was such a pretty blue", the naive little grade-schooler said.

"Next time don't dilly-dally and get in line early and pick a real planet, so that your family won't be embarrassed, you got that?"

Please tell me you're joking and/or I should be hearing a rather loud woosh right now. If not, please seek professional help before you screw up your child(ren).

Re:Planet mayhem (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#44725619)

It's a lesson in reality: a lesson in embarrassment, family "face", and competition. Life is cruel; you have to learn to play the game right or get stomped on. How is one going to handle future sadistic bosses or future stupid mother-in-law's without such lessons? The rainbow and sunshine times of kindergarten have moved on for such a student.

Re:Planet mayhem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44730403)

It's a lesson in reality

Lesson: Daddy cares more about his own imaginary embarrassment than he does about you. And this will get worse the older you get. Try to limit Daddy's role in your life.

Re:Planet mayhem (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#44732909)

Daddy is just a mirror of society.

Re:Planet mayhem (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year ago | (#44732959)

Daddy is trolling, methinks.

Re:Planet mayhem (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | about a year ago | (#44732457)

If not, please seek professional help before you screw up your child(ren).

He could always go to his priest to make sure that his children get properly, professionally screwed up.

Re:Planet mayhem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44730379)

You are a horrible person. I hope you die.

Re:Planet mayhem (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#44732925)

Welcome to Slashdot, dear Daughter! Don't forget to do your homework, though.

Don't forget the Dwarf Planet Ceres. (4, Interesting)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#44725623)

Ceres [wikipedia.org] is a dwarf planet that makes up about 1/3rd the mass of the asteroid belt. It's thought to be made of rock and ice as well. So, it would have RAW materials for both building and fueling... If you don't mind all the other rocks whizzing by. Closer proximity to the sun means it's faster to use solar to split H2O closer in.

Amazing to think of a future where fuel could be made at such sites (even out of water on the moon) and then distributed to other orbits about the solar system to fuel up on in transit. The biggest benefit of finding caches of resources like this is that they've got a much lower gravity tax...

Uranu's trojan asteroid would be sort of like a gas station in the middle of no-where: "Slow down, pilgrim. Sun's not so bright you hafta scurry about. Time moves a bit slower for us robotic refuelers out here in the land of the midday night. One wrong move and it's 2.6 billion clicks to the nearest part store."

Re:Don't forget the Dwarf Planet Ceres. (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#44725627)

Rusty And Wet

Re:Don't forget the Dwarf Planet Ceres. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726503)

Ceres is all nice and well, and I'm not a rocket scientist to speak of. But I'd guess the probability of getting a nice hit by space debris while traveling or mining is somewhat higher amidst the asteroid belt ...

Re:Don't forget the Dwarf Planet Ceres. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44727471)

Ceres is all nice and well, and I'm not a rocket scientist to speak of. But I'd guess the probability of getting a nice hit by space debris while traveling or mining is somewhat higher amidst the asteroid belt ...

Yes, the probability is somewhat higher. [xkcd.com]

They found a Trojan in Uranus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725851)

So I checked the invariance of your Lagrangian. Hubba-hubba.

Look What Happened to Pluto! (2)

kenwd0elq (985465) | about a year ago | (#44725869)

Does that mean that Uranus has not "cleared its orbit" of other objects? (That being one of the IAU's criteria for planet-hood)

Re:Look What Happened to Pluto! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44725925)

I never liked that criterion either, but the IAU was very aware of the existence of Jupiter's and Neptune's trojan asteroids (don't know if Saturn has any) when they came up with it. So probably not.

Re:Look What Happened to Pluto! (4, Informative)

Urkki (668283) | about a year ago | (#44726191)

Does that mean that Uranus has not "cleared its orbit" of other objects? (That being one of the IAU's criteria for planet-hood)

No, on the contrary, it means Uranus has cleared it's orbit, any rocks that remain are in Lagrange points and 100% controlled by Uranus.

Re:Look What Happened to Pluto! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726197)

Does that mean that Uranus has not "cleared its orbit" of other objects? (That being one of the IAU's criteria for planet-hood)

Duh, Uranus is 100 million times bigger than this thing. Unlike Pluto, which is 0.8 times bigger (whoops, smaller!) than other bodies in its orbit.

More to the point, Uranus "controls" the orbit of this body. It has to follow in Uranus's exact resonance or it gets "cleared". Pluto can't clear shit, because it's a little ice ball just like all the other little ice balls in the Kuiper belt. In fact, it's own orbit is controlled by Neptune.

Re:Look What Happened to Pluto! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726861)

Is this Pluto hysteria and hurt feelings about it really still a thing?

Condom Joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44726321)

There has to be a Trojan condom joke in there somewhere. Maybe somebody can mine Uranus for it.

You insensitiv3 clod! (-1)

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Evocative.... (1)

rayhigh (912376) | about a year ago | (#44730983)

'Uranus' and 'Trojan Point'? Not that there's anything wrong with that....

Negative moderation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44731513)

I expect an "off-topic" rating on this post, but it seems like the whole population of Slashdot has (appropriately) used up their mod points marking things negatively in this thread. Props to you, moderators.

Well, it's noce to know ... (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | about a year ago | (#44732563)

... But it's hardly surprising. Uranus is a planet, and it's not in any particularly close resonance relations to any others, so you'd pretty much expect it to have some Trojan companions (double entendre resisted, almost). So that's Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter definitely with Trojans ; Mars ... yes, three or seven, depending on who you ask ; Earth ... well allegedly yes, but there are complications like Cruithne [wikipedia.org] too - a "quasi-satellite".

It seems as if all of the Solar System's planets are obeying the universal law of gravity, with the arguable exception of Mercury and Venus. And for them (and outer dwarf planets too), the increasing complication of small spaces and/ or multiple bodies messing up relationships make it unsurprising that Trojans are rare and temporary enough to not have been found.

It's nice work, but hardly earth-shattering. Not even Uranus-shattering.

uranus' leading trojan point (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44732577)

the technical term for when you drop the soap in the shower?

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