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Hope they get bombed (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#44739803)

I would be really happy if a cruise missile blew up SEA headquarters, if they have one. Or their mothers' basements if not.

Re:Hope they get bombed (1)

fnj (64210) | about 8 months ago | (#44739809)

What the fuck?

Re:Hope they get bombed (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#44739817)

I'm just sick of seeing their astroturf comments underneath Reuters articles. They would have been shitty enough without their help. That and they're also providing propaganda for a mass-murderous despot...

Re:Hope they get bombed (2)

aliquis (678370) | about 8 months ago | (#44739869)

Make sense.

White comments = get bombed.

More American freedom? =P

Re:Hope they get bombed (1)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | about 8 months ago | (#44740435)

That's what wars are really fought for, to shut up annoying people. Same with Hitler, remember those long boring speeches. Man I'm glad we did something about it.

Re:Hope they get bombed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44742425)

"We"?

Another American fucking moron who thinks "We won the war"

As an Israeli I have to disagree (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740255)

Yes they suck and Assad is awful but the "rebels" aren't exactly 'nice guys" either. Its just sort of picking who gets to kill the Syrian people next while the west (and we) get the blame for "letting it happen" or even supplying the weapons. Kind of sucks.
So yes they are a*holes supporting a murderer but in their defense this murderer is probably protecting their families and they don't really have a choice.
I suggest developing some empathy.

Re:As an Israeli I have to disagree (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#44740521)

Empathy for a mass-murderer? I think not. If he wanted to protect his families he could fly them out of there, or at worst, set up a defended compound.

Are the majority of the rebels really Islamic extremists or are they just a few unfortunate hangers-on?

Re:As an Israeli I have to disagree (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about 8 months ago | (#44742499)

A defended compound will hold out an invading, foreign, very well funded mercenary army?
The region tried that and then faced the hundreds of locals at your door issue.
How long will your guards last? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehden_massacre [wikipedia.org]
The locals faced a history of slave raids and heavy taxes. Then the French.
As a minority in a region with huge issues and a well funded majority.... best to keep up with military service and win as a country under secularism.

Re:As an Israeli I have to disagree (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about 8 months ago | (#44743485)

Empathy for a mass-murderer? I think not. If he wanted to protect his families he could fly them out of there, or at worst, set up a defended compound.

Fly how many people out of there? Syria is 60% Shi'ite according to Wiki, and in a population of 22M, that would mean flying out around 9M people. Where do they fly them - Dearbornistan? If you disbelieve that, just look at all the reports of massacres of non-Sunnis since this civil war started, as well as those of Christians fleeing to Lebanon and abroad.

Are the majority of the rebels really Islamic extremists or are they just a few unfortunate hangers-on?

The majority. Backed by Syria's Muslim Brotherhood, which is closely related to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, since Egypt & Syria have been under common governments in the past - under the Tulunids in the 9th century, and more recently, as the United Arab Republic in the 1960s. The Muslim Brotherhood is the only organized opposition in Syria, similar to how it was in Egypt, and the 'Free Syrian Army' is just a façade put up to convince the West that there is a difference between the 2. But if the majority of Sunnis were opposed to persecution of Alawites or Christians or others, there wouldn't have been those Christians fleeing from cities captured by the rebels.

Re: As an Israeli I have to disagree (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740691)

Turn the hole damn asshole of the world into a Lake :)

Anonymous is CIA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44739829)

Call a spade a spade.

Re:Anonymous is CIA (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44739893)

Agent Cooldude is in the party van. Prepare to accidentally the whole duckroll. Over.

Re:Anonymous is CIA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44743267)

Call a spade a spade.

Spade, what you talkin' about Willis?

Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44739833)

Get the popcorn ready.

SEA assholes vs /b/ tards.

Better than any Michael Bay or JJ Abrahams movie.

Re:Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44739901)

SEA assholes vs /b/ tards.

/b/ tards are NSA. These peoples don't 'vs'. They work together as a team to fuck the public.

Re:Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740007)

/b/ tards will win by default. It doesn't matter how elite your hacking skills are at defacing media websites, they can't stop a cruise missile or a JDAM.

***waves hand*** (2)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 8 months ago | (#44739971)

These are not the electronic army members you are looking for...

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Denies Anonymous Exposed Their Members (1)

mjwx (966435) | about 8 months ago | (#44743473)

Look, those could be anyone's cock shots that were posted, anyone's.

Re:Denies Anonymous Exposed Their Members (1)

unitron (5733) | about 8 months ago | (#44743755)

Maybe so, but that was definitely exposure of someone's member.

So to speak.

Big deal! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740057)

So, the SEA has gay members. So what if they were outed! They get rainbow patches on their uniforms!

Why Slashdot uses "pro-Assad"... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740077)

The owners of Slashdot, as with all mainstream media sources, have been pushing the sheeple to support the extermination of Syria from day one. Syria's current regime, the ope that happily worked hand-in-glove with the USA in its so-called war-on-terror since 9/11 2001, has many significant features.

-It is PRO religious freedom and believes in FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE
-It is PRO West
-It is PRO female Rights

Now the terrorists that the owners of Slashdot support are:
-PRO an Islamic extremist State based on the most radical form of Sharia Law
-ANTI West
-ANTI Female Rights, especially the Right of women to have equality with men in things like higher education, politics, and employment

The vast majority of Syrians support their current government over any form of current mercenary army that is attacking their nation.

The war against Syria was planned years before any phoney 'uprising' in that land. Tony Blair has used his International Interfaith Organisation once again to attempt to recruit dissident Syrians to give legitimacy to his phoney 'revolution'. Blair used the same tactic to destroy Libya from within, but has gained far less traction with Syria.

So, Blair and the British have set up massive terror training camps in Jordan, where radical young Muslims from all over the Middle East, Turkey, the US and Europe are recruited, trained, armed, financed and transported as an ad hoc terror army that invades Syria in never ending waves. Blair and the US use Saudi Arabia to launder funds for the terrorists, and provide religious leadership. Weapons are purchased from all over the world (massive shipments of ex-soviet era weapons were flown from Croatia to Jordan as part of Blair's agreement to allow Croatia to join the EU). Britain arranges political, military and propaganda control of the Syrian operation from its bases in Qatar. The BBC/MI6 operation, Al Jazeera, is based at British facilities in Qatar. Al Jazeera was created by the BBC World Service (the international MI6 propaganda department) years ago from the BBC's Arab Desk.

Tony Blair arranged for the terrorists to have access to many different forms of chemical weapons from the very beginning. The problem Blair has is that his terrorists are either kids with no real military background, mercenaries with no desire to mess around with such dangerous weapons, or ex-regime soldiers with even less desire. Modern chemical weapons are more about the state-of-the-art dispersal systems. The terrorists are capable of little more than firing nerve gas cannisters into an area, as if they were mortars (you can see photos of the terrorists with such weapons online).

So the owners of Slashdot use the old DEMONISE psy-op of labelling a target people as their 'leader'. They think you Sheeple are that THICK. Are you? Are you that thick that you do not understand why the owners of Slashdot use the term "pro-Assad".

If Obama and Blair get their way, a once peaceful prosperous nation will never know peace again. Just look at the daily news coming from Iraq. Massive bombings, kidnappings and torture EVERY day now. When Saddam was in power (outside the wars) ordinary people could live safely. Now every civilian facility is a target for bombs planted by factions armed, financed and supported by the West. Blair, Obama, and the owners of Slashdot want Syria to suffer the same fate. Saddam, at least, was a warmongering idiot (although he did his warmongering at the behest of the US government). Assad is one of the most civilised leaders of a Middle East State. He is a SAINT compared to those Middle East dictators supported by the owners of Slashdot, and the US government.

Re:Why Slashdot uses "pro-Assad"... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740111)

Is that you President Assad, or did you let your son post again?

Re:Why Slashdot uses "pro-Assad"... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740445)

The owners of Slashdot, as with all mainstream media sources, have been pushing the sheeple to support the extermination of Syria from day one. Syria's current regime, the one that happily worked hand-in-glove with the USA in its so-called war-on-terror since 9/11 2001, has many significant features.

It's been playing both sides of the turf. While they've been happily supporting a war against Sunni jihadis i.e. al Qaeda, they've been supporting other Jihadi organizations like Hizbullah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad & PFLP. While many /. posters are virulently anti-Israel, fact remains that Hamas, al Qaeda and most Sunni organizations have support of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the main Sunni movement in Egypt & Syria, and to some extent, Jordan as well. Syria is also allied with both Iran, as well as the new Shi'ite regime in Iraq, which is by no stretch of imagination a secular regime: in fact, the regime that it replaced - Saddam's Baath regime - was ideologically more compatible with the current Syrian regime. However, the Assads & Saddam were always enemies since Saddam was a Sunni persecuting non-Sunnis, while the Assads were/are Alawites persecuting Sunnis. Also, during the US occupation of Iraq, Syria was only too happy to let their Sunnis, as well as other Sunni jihadis from Jordan, Egypt, et al go into Iraq's al Anbar province from Syria to fight US troops there. Some ally!

-It is PRO religious freedom and believes in FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE

No regime in any Muslim country ever believes in freedom of conscience. If it's an Islamic regime, it tries to shove its sectarian dominance over the rest of the population, such as in Saudi Arabia, Iran and most of the Gulf states. If it is a Baathist regime (which I'll describe again below), it does what it can to stamp out the religious freedom of the majority, and for good reason - it knows that given a 'democratic' option, the majority sect would stamp out the regime & then wipe out all non-believers, both Muslim (of other sects) and non-Muslim.

Here is the deal with Syria. Like Iraq, it's a regime dominated by a minority Muslim sect. In Iraq, it was the Sunnis (which is why the other Arabs backed them) while in Syria, it is the Alawites. Since in both these countries, these groups are minorities, they seized power by force, and then formed a coalition of most of the minority groups in that country. In Iraq, it was a Sunni led coalition with Chaldean Christians, although they failed to co-opt the Kurds. In Syria, it's an Alawite led coalition of Shi'ites, Syrian Christians, Druze and maybe Kurds. In both these cases, these groups know that if the regime falls, they'd be massacred by the majority regime. In Iraq, already, all Christians have fled. In Syria, Christians, Alawites & Shi'ites have been massacred in the places that have been captured by the Sunni rebels.

-It is PRO West

As pointed out above, Syria is a vassal state of both Iran & completes the Shi'ite crescent of Iran, Iraq, Syria & Lebanon. While it had supported US in the tortured interrogation of enemy combatants, it has also been actively opposed to the US when it comes to their own favorite Jihadis, like Hizbullah. In fact, even Hamas had close relations with the Syrian regime until the uprising there, when the Muslim Brotherhood clerics in the wake of their election victory in Egypt ordered Hamas to break them. If the Syrian regime no longer supports Hamas, it's because of Hamas ending support to them, not vice versa.

Also, during the US occupation of Iraq, Syria was only too happy to let their Sunnis, as well as other Sunni jihadis from Jordan, Egypt, et al go into Iraq's al Anbar province from Syria to fight US troops there. Some ally!

-It is PRO female Rights

True

Now the terrorists that the owners of Slashdot support are:

-PRO an Islamic extremist State based on the most radical form of Sharia Law

True

-ANTI West

True

-ANTI Female Rights, especially the Right of women to have equality with men in things like higher education, politics, and employment

True

The vast majority of Syrians support their current government over any form of current mercenary army that is attacking their nation.

No, the vast majority of Syrians, being Sunnis, support the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda in overthrowing the Alawite regime that rules them, whom they regard as heretical. Contrary to what the bridge buyers in Washington, Brussels, London & elsewhere think, they do not believe in religious pluralism, freedom of conscience, women's rights and nor are they any more pro-Western than the Baathist regime - which never was.

The war against Syria was planned years before any phoney 'uprising' in that land. Tony Blair has used his International Interfaith Organisation once again to attempt to recruit dissident Syrians to give legitimacy to his phoney 'revolution'. Blair used the same tactic to destroy Libya from within, but has gained far less traction with Syria.

So, Blair and the British have set up massive terror training camps in Jordan, where radical young Muslims from all over the Middle East, Turkey, the US and Europe are recruited, trained, armed, financed and transported as an ad hoc terror army that invades Syria in never ending waves. Blair and the US use Saudi Arabia to launder funds for the terrorists, and provide religious leadership. Weapons are purchased from all over the world (massive shipments of ex-soviet era weapons were flown from Croatia to Jordan as part of Blair's agreement to allow Croatia to join the EU). Britain arranges political, military and propaganda control of the Syrian operation from its bases in Qatar. The BBC/MI6 operation, Al Jazeera, is based at British facilities in Qatar. Al Jazeera was created by the BBC World Service (the international MI6 propaganda department) years ago from the BBC's Arab Desk.

Tony Blair arranged for the terrorists to have access to many different forms of chemical weapons from the very beginning. The problem Blair has is that his terrorists are either kids with no real military background, mercenaries with no desire to mess around with such dangerous weapons, or ex-regime soldiers with even less desire. Modern chemical weapons are more about the state-of-the-art dispersal systems. The terrorists are capable of little more than firing nerve gas cannisters into an area, as if they were mortars (you can see photos of the terrorists with such weapons online).

It's the other way around. The Saudis, and all other Arabs, hate the Syrian regime, since it's a non-Sunni regime in an Arab country. During the Iran Iraq war in the 80s, they couldn't get the Arab League to support Iraq, since Syria and Libya (which later switched sides) supported Iran in that war. Syria also supported Hizbullah becoming powerful in Lebanon and turning it from a Sunni-dominated Muslim population to a Shi'ite dominated Muslim population. So they hate Syria like anything and want to see that regime go down.

When the Arab Spring started, it scared all the regimes in the Arab empire, but the Saudis, despite being nervous at dissent within their own country, made sure to crush a Shi'ite uprising in Bahrein. However, as the 'Arab Spring' or more precisely 'Islamic summer' spread to Syria, they seized the opportunity to try & overthrow the Assad regime, and used anybody they could get for the purpose, and have played their Machiavellian game perfectly. While they have been backing al Qaeda affiliated Jihadis who've joined the 'Free Syrian Army', they have been encouraging & backing Western support for their Sunni comrades in Syria.

Hasn't anybody wondered - how is it that the Arabs, who hate Infidel armies on Arab/Islamic lands, suddenly want that in Syria? Of course, they want everything to be perfect - initially, they supported the bombing of Col Gadaffi's troops, but when that led to collateral damage, they were pissed. Well, guess what - if they're in a war, that happens. Incidentally, nothing exposes Syria as a civil war between different sectarian groups better than this one. Whereas Col Gadaffi & Mubarak didn't have the support of any particular sect that dominated their militaries, in Syria, the Alawites, Christians & Druze know that if Assad falls, they are dead. Yeah, there are Copts in Egypt, but they were badly treated both in the former regime, as well as in Morsi's. Anyway, back to my point - if the Saudis, Qataris, Turks and everyone else who's supporting the rebels in Syria were concerned about 'democracy', they'd be supporting it in their own countries, as well as places like Bahrein & Iraq, where their favorite Muslims are not going to win.

So the owners of Slashdot use the old DEMONISE psy-op of labelling a target people as their 'leader'. They think you Sheeple are that THICK. Are you? Are you that thick that you do not understand why the owners of Slashdot use the term "pro-Assad".

If Obama and Blair get their way, a once peaceful prosperous nation will never know peace again. Just look at the daily news coming from Iraq. Massive bombings, kidnappings and torture EVERY day now. When Saddam was in power (outside the wars) ordinary people could live safely. Now every civilian facility is a target for bombs planted by factions armed, financed and supported by the West. Blair, Obama, and the owners of Slashdot want Syria to suffer the same fate. Saddam, at least, was a warmongering idiot (although he did his warmongering at the behest of the US government). Assad is one of the most civilised leaders of a Middle East State. He is a SAINT compared to those Middle East dictators supported by the owners of Slashdot, and the US government.

The current president Assad - Bashar - is fine. He did try to introduce reforms in Syria, but realized that if he loosened things up too much, the people would do an Iraq like experiment and then start persecuting his people, so he did well to stop. But he's not the monster that the West is portraying him to be.

However, his father, Hafez al Assad was different. He was the closest ally of the Soviets in the region during the Cold War. He supported Hizbullah in Lebanon, backed and arranged a lot of terrorism in the region including the assassination of Lebanon's president elect Bashir Gemayel, and the attack on the US marines in Beirut, was a close ally of Libya during some of its worst enmity with the US, and a major enemy of Egypt - it was probably just due to Israel separating the 2 that Syria didn't go to war with Egypt. In 1991, when the US turned against Saddam, he, due to his hatred of Saddam for the reasons mentioned above, suddenly supported the US in Operation Desert Shield. After his death in 2000, Syria became less anti-US, just like Libya, and in fact, after 9/11, the US had no problems making a partnership with Syria against terrorists. It's just that they have morons in the State Department who would in the name of democracy rather enable Jihadis in countries like Egypt, Syria & Libya, instead of supporting regimes that crack down on them. The best case of this was in Uzbekistan, where the US support for their Jihadis caused the Uzbek regime to expel them from the Karshi-Khanabad air base.

In short, as someone put it above, the war in Syria is an Alien vs Predator scenario. There are no 'good guys', 'pro-Western' guys, 'freedom of conscience supporting' guys or anyone of that sort. There is one bunch of Jihadis, backed by Iran, Hizbullah, Iraq as well as Beijing & Moscow, battling another group of Jihadis, backed by the Saudis, Turks, Qataris, as well as Washington & Brussels. From an Infidel point of view, it's a nice situation. Let them just battle it out, and better yet, let Jihadis from elsewhere in the world pour into Syria and join their favorite side. Just like the 60s war between the Yemens, or the 80s war between Iran & Iraq resulted in a weakening of Muslims, so may this have the same effect. Just too bad that it had to end quickly in Libya.

Long story short - may allah sort them out!

Respect to the SEA where it's due (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#44740261)

The SEA may be evil and a bunch of amateur ankle-biter hackers, but whoever's writing content for them is a scary-smart genius. They know how to attack and exploit the minds of average Americans way better than the SEA could hope to do with computers. It's amazing how brilliantly the content is tailored for its purpose.

Re:Respect to the SEA where it's due (1)

asmkm22 (1902712) | about 8 months ago | (#44740295)

And yet the only thing I got out of it is they know how to deflect the truth by minimizing the importance of the accusation. Which is pretty much a standard human characteristic.

Re:Respect to the SEA where it's due (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#44740451)

Everything they put out is in the form of conspiracy theories which make the US government look untrustworthy, make the rebels look like just a bunch of Islamic terrorists, and hint at some NWO-like conspiracy. Distrust of government, bogeyman of the day, shadowy international elite, the 3 G-spots of the American conspiracy theory receptor. Wham bam slam, thank you ma'am.

If you deflect the truth in a way that is more conspiratorial in the same manner, it then becomes much harder to bend it back where it belongs (see also: global warming "debate.") A form of sabotage that is massively difficult to undo and only takes a bit of clever design effort to perform.

Re:Respect to the SEA where it's due (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44740459)

No, they're a bunch of idiots. Just antagonizing the public won't get them anything. The American public will get irritated and the rest of the world, will just shake their heads and say "God, what a bunch of idiots". Meanwhile, the people in charge, elected by the public will be free to use their people with guns in any way they want.

Look at the Chinese, how they use their hackers, they don't go for publicity. Any bit that got public was purely by mistake.

The difference between the two is so huge, it's funnier than a thousand lawyers in a shark infested pool.

Despite the NSA's budget... (3, Interesting)

msobkow (48369) | about 8 months ago | (#44740305)

And despite the NSA's budget and breadth of intrusion on private lives, they haven't caught them.

I'm *so* impressed with their effectiveness.

The problem is the idiots are searching an ever larger haystack of data for a few needles. The more data they collect, the worse the problem is.

Re:Despite the NSA's budget... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44741289)

1. The NSA is not a law enforcement agency. They do not apprehend people.
2. The SEA is a bunch of Syrians located in Syria.

Re:Despite the NSA's budget... (1)

msobkow (48369) | about 8 months ago | (#44742243)

They're attacking American websites. Surely that constitutes electronic terrorism and would fall under the NSA's mandate.

Re:Despite the NSA's budget... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44742455)

Cool, we'll send a bunch of nerds into Syria to arrest these dudes right away. I'm glad you are so informed about how the United States Intelligence Community works.

Thanks,

General Alexander

Re:Despite the NSA's budget... (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 8 months ago | (#44743761)

They're attacking American websites. Surely that constitutes electronic terrorism and would fall under the NSA's mandate.

Except said websites were still working fine. What the SEA did was phish the registrar (Melbourne IT) [techcrunch.com] for a password which they then used to change the DNS records of said websites.

Sites like the NYT et al, all worked if you entered in via their IP address.

No elaborate website hack, just a DNS social engineering attack.

Re:Despite the NSA's budget... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44745747)

The problem is that the haystack is on the other side of a big giant ocean. Why bother searching the faraway haystack with binoculars when you can search the one in your own yard with a pitchfork?

anonymous = fbi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44742265)

case closed....always was always will be....its a front to out any stupid hackers.real stupid....

Battle of Anonymous groups (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 8 months ago | (#44743691)

For all we know, the SEA is an Anonymous-type group where various individuals act independently for a common cause. Maybe none of the members know each other IRL but only through their online handles. If SEA is like @nonymous it could well be a group with a fluid leadership, individuals who step up as leaders for one attack and then just fade away or lie low when the heat gets to them. So exposing SEA's leaders might not amount to much as far as the group is concerned, only to the individual who had the misfortune of being outed.

Hackers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#44744413)

SEA is nothing but lame script kiddies with in inflated ego typical of the script kiddies of the Middle East. A dozen defacement groups springs to mind and using other people scripts to do ugly and pathetic defacements featuring political or religious messages is a testament to the lack of talent and intelligence apparently common to these groups. Heck, the religious context in itself shows the utter lack of any ability to think for themselves.

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