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Kubuntu Announces Commercial Support

Unknown Lamer posted about a year ago | from the where-canonical-won't-go dept.

Ubuntu 59

sfcrazy writes "Kubuntu is one of those few GNULinux based distributions which brings the two leading technologies together — Ubuntu and KDE. There are quite a lot of businesses which are using this combination in their set-up. Until now there was no professional support available for Kubuntu users. To fill this gap the Kubuntu community has launched commercial support for businesses, organizations and individuals. The Kubuntu team is partnering with Emerge Open to offer this service which is called 'Kubuntu Commercial Support provided by Emerge Open'."

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KDE FTW! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44741685)

KDE is the best!

Re:KDE FTW! (0)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#44741705)

I always preferred it to GNOME, but felt dirty for having used it. Of course, I ultimately decided to move to XFCE, anyway.

Re:KDE FTW! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44741727)

Sir I disagree; KDE is UGLY

Re:KDE FTW! (4, Insightful)

bmo (77928) | about a year ago | (#44741747)

Oh hey, it's a meme from 10 years ago.

You can make KDE look like whatever you want, guy. I've had people ask me "what's that gtk theme" I was using.

But then you're probably one of those people still with the teletubby wallpaper and fisher-price theme on your XP machine.

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BMO

Re:KDE FTW! (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | about a year ago | (#44742135)

But then you're probably one of those people still with the teletubby wallpaper and fisher-price theme on your XP machine.

He's probably using Barbie Linux. :P

Re:KDE FTW! (3, Interesting)

bmo (77928) | about a year ago | (#44742569)

Rebecca Black Linux

http://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/ [sourceforge.net]

Hannah Montana Linux...

http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

My Little Pony Gnome theme...

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=144562 [gnome-look.org]

Unfortunately, Mattel is serious about its trademarks, so Barbie Linux doesn't exist (yet)(at least publicly)

Be afraid. Very afraid.

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BMO

Re:KDE FTW! (1)

vandamme (1893204) | about a year ago | (#44790559)

Better yet:
Biebian [sourceforge.net]

Re:KDE FTW! (0)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#44741765)

I always preferred KDE to GNOME, because it felt like it had more configuration and control options available to me than GNOME did. I know that, ultimately, that isn't the case, but at default, GNOME always felt like it was constricting and limiting and sort of . . . toyish. Plus . . AmaroK!

That said, KDE was far from ideal, too. I haven't used either in about five years, though. I might play around with both for kids, soon. I presume they're still squibbling over goofy flashy-desktop-presentation stuff? I seem to remember them (or was it just ubuntu's flavor) pushing a kind of goofy often-crashy-breaky desktop graphical layer enhancement that did all sorts of glitzy stuff. . . when it worked?

Re:KDE FTW! (4, Insightful)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about a year ago | (#44741769)

That is like saying canvas and paint is ugly. If your KDE desktop is ugly, it is a reflection on you, not KDE. See also [kde-look.org] .

Re:KDE FTW! (1)

prowler1 (458133) | about a year ago | (#44743397)

A little off topic I know but I just needed to say that I miss the old themes.org web site.

Re:KDE FTW! (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | about a year ago | (#44742283)

Who cares if KDE or whatever desktop is "ugly"? The last thing the Linux desktop needs at this point is more designers putting their stamp on things -- just give me software that is finished and works and I'll be happy.

Re:KDE FTW! (2)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | about a year ago | (#44742411)

... just give me software that is finished and works ...

That's adorable.

Re:KDE FTW! (1)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about a year ago | (#44743825)

I've got a VM running Windows 3.11. It's finished, and for what it does, it works. Want me to ship you the VMDK?

Re:KDE FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44748297)

Indeed, why does anyone need pretty tools? Of course, as others have said, you can make KDE look pretty much any way you want it to.

Microsoft calls itself "user friendly" and I just figured out why -- it says "welcome" when you log on, had that happy little search puppy. I don't want my computer to be friendly, I want it to be OBEDIENT. I don't want to wade through fifteen screens to change my mouse settings and I don't want to have to remember the names of programs I seldom run like MS folks seem to like.

Maybe a tablet should be pretty, it's a toy. The computer is for work. How many pretty tools does an auto machanic or construction worker have? (Hint: zero)

Re:KDE FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742427)

And I disagree with you, the default themes in Kubuntu and openSuSe are actually very pleasing to the eye.

Wait Ku...buntu? (0)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#44741693)

I haven't touched ubuntu in quite awhile, but I thought they dropped Kubuntu several years ago?

Re:Wait Ku...buntu? (4, Informative)

bmo (77928) | about a year ago | (#44741779)

Ubuntu stopped giving money to Kubuntu, but Kubuntu is alive and well.

http://lwn.net/Articles/491498/rss [lwn.net]

For those unwilling to click through:

Kubuntu to be sponsored by Blue Systems
[Distributions] Posted Apr 10, 2012 17:33 UTC (Tue) by corbet

The Kubuntu project recently lost its sponsorship from Canonical, which is pursuing its fortunes in other areas. The project has now announced that it will be sponsored by Blue Systems instead. "Blue Systems sponsors a number of KDE projects and will encourage Kubuntu to follow the same successful formula as it has always had - community led, KDE focused, Ubuntu flavour." The actual extent of this sponsorship is not clear at this time.

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BMO

Re:Wait Ku...buntu? (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#44741799)

Ah! Thanks for the . . . Enlightenment.

Since I haven't used either environment in so many years, I'd just construed the news back then that KDE was totally on the outs. Didn't realize it was just Canonical sponsorship.

Re:Wait Ku...buntu? (1)

Teun (17872) | about a year ago | (#44742583)

Uhh, KDE is an upstream project not only available as Kubuntu but also very successful with distro's like Sabayon and Open Suse.

Re:Wait Ku...buntu? (1)

emblemparade (774653) | about a year ago | (#44743939)

I want to remind everyone that the support Canonical provided was a *single part-time programmer*, and that it's this that is now funded by Blue Systems. Definitely very nice support, and appreciated, but it's not the kind of support that makes-or-breaks a project.

Who cares? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44741709)

I would never install that ugly shit on any of MY computers.
Unity4lyfe

Re:Who cares? (1)

caballew (2725281) | about a year ago | (#44741749)

I would never install that ugly shit on any of MY computers. Unity4lyfe

Let me guess, you're an early adopter of Windows 8

Re:Who cares? (1)

Dusanyu (675778) | about a year ago | (#44741881)

I would never install that ugly shit on any of MY computers. Unity4lyfe

You picked the wrong place fanboy, go back to OMGUbuntu.

Not worthy of being front page (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44741741)

why is this here?

Re:Not worthy of being front page (2)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about a year ago | (#44741819)

Front page? There are no other pages!

Re:Not worthy of being front page (1)

rastos1 (601318) | about a year ago | (#44743975)

In fact ... could we get the Post button right next to the article title on the front-page, please?

Re:Not worthy of being front page (1)

tibman (623933) | about a year ago | (#44751383)

You get more pages in the DLC (or if you have a season pass).

Catchy Name (1)

wrackspurt (3028771) | about a year ago | (#44741803)

'Kubuntu Commercial Support provided by Emerge Open'

A lot of long nights and creative thought went into that.

Or... (0)

msobkow (48369) | about a year ago | (#44741859)

Or one can just install Ubuntu server (with or without a support license) and do:

apt-get install kde-full

Re:Or... (4, Informative)

bmo (77928) | about a year ago | (#44742103)

Actually, that will only install the default KDE with none of the Kubuntu defaults. Whether you want that or not is up to the user.

apt-get install kde-full kubuntu-desktop

installs the whole magilla.

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BMO

SWEET (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44741883)

now you can pay to call someone thats going to tell you to fix it your fucking self

watch out world, linux is almost up to par with OS/2!

Re:SWEET (1, Offtopic)

bmo (77928) | about a year ago | (#44742065)

>Dissing OS/2

Ackshully, every single one of the Windows interfaces has been inferior to Workplace Shell.

Having used such in the past, I can tell you that there are definitely things you could do in WPS easily, but are impossible to do in Windows. Going from WPS to Win95 and above (even including everything post-vista) the Windows interfaces seem klunky in comparison.

Heck, even the command line terminal in Windows is inferior to everything out there. And don't give me any of that "but PowerShell" crap. OS/2 had Rexx.

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BMO

Re:SWEET (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742825)

And those things are what exactly?

what colour hat (1)

ozduo (2043408) | about a year ago | (#44742031)

will they wear?

KDE is Klumsy and Klunky (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742213)

KDE has always been Klumsy and Klunky to use

Gnome is much better, it was always intuitive and the closest thing to a Windows GUI.

Re:KDE is Klumsy and Klunky (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742349)

until they shit all over it in release 3 and made it into mac os 7 with a phone menu

Re:KDE is Klumsy and Klunky (2)

gweihir (88907) | about a year ago | (#44742361)

No idea why you think being closest to Windows is a good thing. "Klumsy and Klunky" is a pretty good characterization for what Windows thinks is a window manager.

Re:KDE is Klumsy and Klunky (1)

Dragonslicer (991472) | about a year ago | (#44742413)

Gnome is much better, it was always intuitive and the closest thing to a Windows GUI.

Gnome is basically a copy of OSX these days. KDE is much more similar to Windows.

KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (-1, Troll)

gweihir (88907) | about a year ago | (#44742351)

While the KDE folks are convinced they are "leading", everybody else hopes nobody follows their "lead". Not that Gnome is much better. Fortunately this is Linux and not Windows, and any window manager from a team that has a hugely inflated ego but small skills can safely be ignored.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (3, Insightful)

Teun (17872) | about a year ago | (#44742567)

As a long term KDE and Kubuntu user I am again surprised about the hostility it gets from some people.

KDE is about the only fully integrated and configurable desktop experience that's available on Linux.
It might be Gnome had it's years with community traction but that's in the past, KDE and Kubuntu are the present.

That said I quite see the attraction of a Unity, E17 or LXDE, but they are neither fully integrated nor particularly configurable.
The Open Suse and Sabayon versions of KDE are nice but are suffering the lack of the Debian package system.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (2)

Arker (91948) | about a year ago | (#44742633)

The Slackware version of KDE is very nice as well, and it does not 'suffer' from lack of Debian package management. Really, package management causes more suffering than it alleviates.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742957)

Really, package management causes more suffering than it alleviates.

What? Can you actually be serious? Most of the endemic problems in the Windows world can be attributed to the lack of proper package management outside of OS updates.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743361)

I agreed with that statement maybe 15 years ago. With a tar ball you just inspected what files were where, and decided for yourself if that was cool. It worked decently, and was easy to fix when things went wrong.

Now a days, its a PITA. It was great for installing single packages, but dependency management and atomic updates are not absolutely necessary with the complexity of today's linux desktop . RPM has stopped sucking and actually delivered on its promises.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

Arker (91948) | about a year ago | (#44745877)

"What? Can you actually be serious? Most of the endemic problems in the Windows world can be attributed to the lack of proper package management outside of OS updates."

Perfectly serious. Can you be seriously advocating the addition of a major system to gnu in order to solve a problem *on windows?*

Which problem on windows, btw, has nothing to do with package management. Rather it is a result of lacking support for library versioning. Something *nix systems have dealt with properly for decades.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742755)

I haven't touched KDE since the 3.x days (that is honestly used it, not just tinkered with it, when it was truly great). I think there are still some issues with KDE or the integration though. At least with the distributions I've used.

I think they fumbled the ball on KDE 4 in general although it is hurt significantly by the lack of a good distribution with a Debian base. I had a few issues with KDE 4.0 related to critical missing features and lately with the network applets included in the KDE based distributions.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (4, Informative)

deathguppie (768263) | about a year ago | (#44742879)

I still remember when kde2 came out. There was all this talk about everything as a file, like plan9, but in a user oriented fashion. KDE4 did away with all that, but kept the idea of user functionality. If for you functionality is having a button in a specific place, or having settings preordained and hidden, then KDE is not for you. KDE allows for some amazing things, like workspaces. (I gaurantee that this concept will be picked up eventually by the major players as something they came up with)
KDE has in most cases at least two ways do do everything, if you can't find it in one place it's in another. This is a pain to some people, but to someone trying to figure out the system, it means that they have at leas two chances to figue it out before they go to the forums.
KDE is by far the most configuable DE bar none. Where other systems have hacks to change things KDE gives it to you on a platter. There is almost nothing that you cannot change to suit your needs.

While I understand the desire to have a simple desktop setup, any power user who has had more that a couple months with KDE will tell you, there is hardly any DE that can stand up to it for useability.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

Njovich (553857) | about a year ago | (#44745751)

like workspaces

Care to explain what this is? Googled for it and didn't get any wiser. You mean like virtual desktops? KDE Activities? Something else?

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

deathguppie (768263) | about a year ago | (#44745821)

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

Njovich (553857) | about a year ago | (#44747813)

So from your link, you can switch between a desktop and a netbook mode? That's it?

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745839)

I used Kubuntu for a year before switching to OpenSUSE.

I don't find the yast to be a limitation at all, and it has much cleaner integration with the underlying OS, especially the networkig and service management.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#44742841)

There are plenty of Windows shell replacements abd have been for more than a decade. That you're ignorant of them is your own fault.

Re:KDE a "leading technology"? Surely not. (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about a year ago | (#44743329)

While it may not be following KDE's lead, I did find it interesting that LXDE recently decided to co-opt Qt as its development platform and partner w/ Razor-qt. Also, they will be among the first to support Wayland, and have been around longer than any of the others. Which is why they were the only choice on PC-BSD for a while, and are now the default.

Back to Mate (0)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about a year ago | (#44742665)

After using Gnome 2, LXDE, Mate, LXDE, an Xfce streak recently I'm back to Mate, using the default, single panel Linux Mint 15 layout with two virtual desktops next to the start menu and "show desktop" and that's all. Nice fresh air using something without tweaking it for once.
To be fair I've hated them all, discovering niceties and nasties and in the end.. back to gnome 2 instead of its clones.
No CPU/RAM indicator yet but I ran out because my top panel was so fugly. With Xfce I had a nice top panel with indicators and shortcuts and crap.. wasting a few tens pixel height. So for now I'll keep to top and free -m.

KDE? It feels like an operating system, not a DE, what with all its apps requiring the whole mess. I don't want to install 47281 packages on my system, even if it's all automatic, thanks.
Mate is something I think I can give to XP users, Xfce is close too, LXDE doesn't support creating shortcuts and it is frozen (till a rebirth when distros ship with QT 5.1, I'll be curious to see if it has support for user created shortcuts then)

Re:Back to Mate (1)

aestrivex (1398161) | about a year ago | (#44747565)

Seconded, when I installed Debian Wheezy for the first time, it took me about five minutes to get rid of GNOME 3 and set up MATE. It works. No garbage. I know where the things I need are. I see no reason to use any other desktop environment for the foreseeable future.

Great... but ThinkPenguin and others offer it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44742813)

And I think the one thing missing about all these 'professional support' companies is that without hardware that 'just works' GNULinux is not a functional solution for anybody. Maybe this company can offer something at a local level if there smart enough to direct customers at the right hardware although I'm a bit skeptical its going to be able to offer the kind of support the masses really need and doesn't exist now (local support). It's one thing I like about ThinkPenguin. They're thinking about more than the software and the real-world. Random computers don't work well with GNULinux and if your going to provide honest to god support and make it something usable over a period of years you need to make sure your customers are getting the hardware which actually works with it. Simply adding as much proprietary software to a distributions stack doesn't fix the support issue either. You still have the issue of lost support because of companies who refuse to provide updated drivers after the products are discontinued or fail to provide free drivers in the first place that can be integrated in the kernel and supported down the road.

What Kubuntu is really missing at the moment is a good introductory book specific to the long term support release. This is true of all the major distributions. Be it Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Kubuntu, Trisquel, Zorin OS, amongst all the rest.

IN JONATHAN RIDDELL AND MARTIN GRÄßLIN W (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743875)

After trying all the *ubuntus & mint over the last 2 years, I have found both Kubuntu and Mint KDE edition to be very stable. Netrunner is very good too, and I love the way they have made a version with Tor completely intergrated (Stealth Edition). KDE is coming along with leaps and bounds lately, and at the end of the day, moving in the direction that it is, things are only going to get better.

profits to Kubuntu (1)

JRiddell (216337) | about a year ago | (#44744247)

The nice thing about this deal is that Emerge Open is a non-profit company so any money made goes back into Kubuntu to fund developer travel or hardware. Remember you can always donate too [kubuntu.org] :)

does this mean (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44752159)

the 64 bit version has quit crashing? if so, i'll give it another try.

Kubuntu is not Ubuntu (1)

Monsuco (998964) | about a year ago | (#44759407)

For all the flak the Ubuntu project gets, Kubuntu is one of those rare gems. I use it as my main OS and there's nothing I'd rather use. I'm thrilled to see it get more support. I know there are Ubuntu fanboys but I'll confess, I'm a Kubuntu fanboy.

Unlike Ubuntu, Kubuntu hasn't tried to slip Amazon crapware into their OS. KDE 4 remains a beautiful UI unlike the hideous messes that are Unity and Gnome 3. Unlike MINT, Kubuntu doesn't theme everything or screw with the default settings for software.

Unlike SuSE, Slackware, Gentoo or Fedora, Kubuntu also has Debian's apt-get which I consider to be the most straightforward and effective package management system around.

Why not use straight Debian with KDE? Debian's a supurb server OS but their cult-like devotion to only using FOSS software and drivers makes setting up graphics cards, wifi cards and getting Flash, DVD and MP3 support annoying. I also have to find 3rd party repositories for the normal version of Firefox and WINE. Debian also has a slower release cycle and I like getting shiny new things. Almost every support article for Ubuntu applies to Kubuntu just as well. As awesome as Debian's community support is, Ubuntu's is even larger. Don't get me wrong, Debian is great but I still prefer Kubuntu.

Say what you will about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu (the LXDE variant) are both excellent systems.

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