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151 comments

I'm melting! I'm melting! (5, Funny)

kervin (64171) | about a year ago | (#44743289)

What a world... what a world...

Re:I'm melting! I'm melting! (5, Funny)

Cryacin (657549) | about a year ago | (#44744781)

Eat that mythbusters! Archimedes was right! (Now all we need is to sail a trireme in to Fenchurch St somehow...)

Re:I'm melting! I'm melting! (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#44745311)

Eat that mythbusters! Archimedes was right! (Now all we need is to sail a trireme in to Fenchurch St somehow...)

Just don't forget to pick a trireme with wing mirrors.

Happened in L.A., too... (5, Interesting)

sconeu (64226) | about a year ago | (#44743307)

The Disney Concert Hall actually had to be "brushed". It was originally too shiny, and focused the sunlight in places. They had to give it a brushed finish after the fact to avoid this.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-02-24-concert-hall_x.htm [usatoday.com]

Re:Happened in L.A., too... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743427)

At least at Disney Concert hall the developers claimed that they had anticipated the problem but that the finished building was a little different then designed*. Am wondering if they did mean to aim it at the sky or if they tried to make the focual point of the "mirror" somewhere in the air.

*BTW, Am tried of CAD "engineers" who never gotten grease under their figure nails, because they don't know how to put in proper tolerances for real life.

Catcha: Shameful

Re:Happened in L.A., too... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744893)

The Captcha probably referred to your spelling. ;-)

Re:Happened in L.A., too... (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | about a year ago | (#44743505)

There were many legitimate concerns about the Disney Concert Hall's reflectiveness, though I don't believe car-melting was one of them.

Re:Happened in L.A., too... (3, Informative)

RabidReindeer (2625839) | about a year ago | (#44744937)

Locally, I worked in a building that had an IBM mainframe on the 9th floor. A large building erected across the river had an an angled base and reflective sides and about 4 in the afternoon, the focal point was right on us. Had to install solar film to keep from overheating.

if your car is made of plastic... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743327)

perhaps it's actually your fault for failing to pay attention to these kinds of things.

BONUS: Captcha is "glisten"

Re:if your car is made of plastic... (3, Interesting)

BLKMGK (34057) | about a year ago | (#44743339)

The car isn't made of plastic, it was sail trim and not the entire car. Not the first building to do this and even residential homes have been accused of doing the same to neighbors siding when low E windows are installed...

Re:if your car is made of plastic... (1)

Culture20 (968837) | about a year ago | (#44745285)

The first time I saw this effect, a local homeowner installed the reflective windows (ordinary flat windows) and their car's plastic driver's side mirror assembly melted over several days of double-sun for a brief period during the day.

Balance (1)

justthinkit (954982) | about a year ago | (#44745583)

Amazing how just twice as much sun as normal will melt our world. This third rock is an uniquely hospitable, thank Dog.

Re:if your car is made of plastic... (3, Interesting)

Mashiki (184564) | about a year ago | (#44743753)

That's pretty funny, hey did you know that there was an entire line of cars and vans made using poly-composite plastic body panels? Funny enough, switching from steel to plastic or even fiberglass can cut the weight of a vehicle by 30% and give you massive savings on fuel. The downside is, 20 years later as long as you take care of the car it still looks new.

Trabi... (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about a year ago | (#44743905)

Hmm, the Trabant was made of plastic composite and used a two stroke engine. It was far ahead of its time...

Re:Trabi... (1)

amck (34780) | about a year ago | (#44744355)

"Far ahead" is not a phrase I would normally associate with the Trabant. It was a car that enforced breaks on the user every half hour to get away from the noise of the engine. Made cross-country trips (I did one across Ireland in a friends trabbie once) a bit more of an epic than usual.

Re:Trabi... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744417)

Jawohl!! Und sie wurden mit Currywürsten angetrieben.
DDR Top Technologie FTW!!

Re:Trabi... (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about a year ago | (#44745501)

Hmm, the Trabant was made of plastic composite and used a two stroke engine. It was far ahead of its time...

The two stroke engine would have been it's death knell, they're hellishly bad on wear and tear as you might expect, especially with people fudging up mixture ratios. For myself though, I owned a '96 saturn and that thing would easily get 40-45mpg, just as much as some companies are trying to push now on their cars.

Of course if people missed what I said about 20 years later and the car still looking good, that had more to do with the automakers, and the fact that they really didn't rust out like everything else. Sadly what killed my car was the subframe going, all that bloody salt they use up on the roads here in Canada really eats cars.

Re:Trabi... (1)

GNious (953874) | about a year ago | (#44745837)

Trabant was supposedly indestructible - the plastic composite was a right nightmare to dispose of.

Talk about a sensationalist headline (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743331)

If you say "Building melts car," I expect to see a photo of an entire car melted. Seriously.

Re:Talk about a sensationalist headline (4, Funny)

oursland (1898514) | about a year ago | (#44745027)

Next time someone says they were "burned" by something, I expect to a photo of the entire person converted to ashes. Seriously.

Re:Talk about a sensationalist headline (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#44745055)

I was disappointed too. I expected the building a metaphor for a business now sagging under it's own weight, and the car an analogy for their products melting down.
Don't tell me, I know what you're thinking. The Committee for Inverse Automotive Analogies (CIAA) was unimpressed too; Hence my disappointment from the bored board of boredom...

Re:Talk about a sensationalist headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745445)

I saw the headline and thought, what is a "melts car" and who's building it?

Re:Talk about a sensationalist headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44746431)

I had the same question when I read the headline.

Firies will tell you (4, Informative)

mynamestolen (2566945) | about a year ago | (#44743343)

that it's not uncommon for plastic bottles of water to cause fires when the sun's rays are focussed through them. Don't leave your bottles in the sun.

Re:Firies will tell you (5, Interesting)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#44743403)

yep - for the same reason, always pick up any glass bottles you find in the woods. It may be wet and rainy today, but they last a *long* time.

Re:Firies will tell you (1)

mjr167 (2477430) | about a year ago | (#44745365)

Coworker of mine had a similar with his fish tank sitting between a window and a pine bookcase...

Re:Firies will tell you (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | about a year ago | (#44745127)

Also, don't leave your records in the sun [youtube.com] :

Don't leave your records in the sun,
They'll warp and they won't be good for anyone.
Don't leave your records in the sun,
They'll get all wavy and they just won't run.
They just won't play (skip)
just won't play (skip and repeat about 15 times)
no more.

Walkie Talkie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743351)

Is this some new super villain with heat vision, the ability to morph into giant skyscrapers, and telepathy?

Re:Walkie Talkie? (1)

gagol (583737) | about a year ago | (#44744149)

This thing is ugly!

Re:Walkie Talkie? (2)

xaxa (988988) | about a year ago | (#44744583)

Is this some new super villain with heat vision, the ability to morph into giant skyscrapers, and telepathy?

When 30 St Mary Axe (that's the street address) was under construction there were several proposed nicknames. Things like the Dildo. Fortunately "Gherkin" stuck, and since then several of developers / architects have tried to choose their building's nickname, but journalists have been more successful.

See also: the Shard, the Cheesegrater, and the Pinnacle / Helter Skelter.

Re:Walkie Talkie? (2)

oobayly (1056050) | about a year ago | (#44744653)

It should be an automatic rejection if the nickname is chosen by the developers or architects.

The developers are gonna melt, too - or get blind. (1)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year ago | (#44743359)

From TFA: "...they looked into the matter...".

Re:The developers are gonna melt, too - or get bli (2)

Muros (1167213) | about a year ago | (#44743949)

Stop making masturbation jokes, and stay focused.

Re:The developers are gonna melt, too - or get bli (2)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#44745247)

...on the masturbation?

Re:The developers are gonna melt, too - or get bli (2)

michelcolman (1208008) | about a year ago | (#44744909)

Don't look at building with remaining eye!

Re:The developers are gonna melt, too - or get bli (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | about a year ago | (#44746193)

*golf clap*

No! (4, Funny)

puddingebola (2036796) | about a year ago | (#44743373)

Dammit, I told them to angle the mirrored glass like I said! Parliament should be in flames and now the authorities have been alerted. They've failed me for the last time!

Re:No! (5, Funny)

Tarlus (1000874) | about a year ago | (#44743513)

Remember, remember
The Second of September
The Walkie-Talkie Building Parabolic Reflection
And plot

Don't build big convex glass buildings (1)

Animats (122034) | about a year ago | (#44743375)

This has been a problem with other big convex glass buildings. A hotel in Vegas had this problem.

Another no-no is building tall buildings where the ground floor level is mostly columns with a small enclosed lobby. Some of the air hitting the building face is forced through the columned area. In a windy area this can produce high wind speeds. MIT's Green Building had this problem until more buildings were built around it.

Re:Don't build big convex glass buildings (4, Informative)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about a year ago | (#44743401)

I'm pretty sure you meant "big concave glass buildings".

Re: Don't build big convex glass buildings (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743647)

Maybe he was inside...

Re:Don't build big convex glass buildings (1)

Thanshin (1188877) | about a year ago | (#44743699)

This has been a problem with other big convex glass buildings.

The problem with biconvex buildings is that they roll away. (I think you meant 'concave [wikipedia.org] ')

Re: Don't build big convex glass buildings (1)

Russ1642 (1087959) | about a year ago | (#44745685)

His point of reference was from inside the building.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (5, Informative)

ab8ten (551673) | about a year ago | (#44743963)

Yep. That hotel in Vegas, The Vdara, was designed by Rafael Vinoly. The London building was designed by..... Yep. Rafael Vinoly. No joke.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (2)

cc_pirate (82470) | about a year ago | (#44744167)

I actually stayed at this place and happened to be sitting in the wrong spot on the pool deck soon after it opened. I quickly found another spot. Hard to believe the same guy would screw up the SAME WAY again.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744773)

Maybe he secretly thinks it's a feature? Lots of kids enjoy focusing sunlight on stuff.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744455)

Maybe that guy should lose his license. The first time is understandable - but the second?

Re: Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744599)

There is a pool under that Vegas hotel with a focus hotspot, it gives you the fiery experience of an ant under the magnifying glass

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744779)

Seriously? Oh my.

This guy just wants to watch the world burn. Literally.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (1)

Malc (1751) | about a year ago | (#44744835)

He must have thought it wouldn't be a problem in London, what with all the pea soupers and drizzle.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (1)

Bogis (3026207) | about a year ago | (#44744879)

Pea Soupers??? Welcome back from the 1950s bro. You and HG Wells must have just missed each other. :)

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (1)

dcw3 (649211) | about a year ago | (#44744949)

Kids these days. No respect for your elders. Now, get the hell off his lawn.

Re:Don't build big *concave* glass buildings (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year ago | (#44745399)

Maybe he's the world's most sophisticated and patient pyromaniac?

Re:Don't build big convex glass buildings (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744215)

A better statement of the problem is: if you're going to hire a architect from the southern hemisphere to build a building with a big convex glass exterior, make sure he realizes that north of the equator the concave side should face north.

Build big concave reflective structures (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year ago | (#44745091)

Missed opportunity for solar power collection, if you ask me. Instead of not building curved structures, curve away but do so in a manner that's actually useful and shows some foresight. It's not like we haven't given you ray-tracing technology to make pretty print outs of the damn designs anyway; Use it to map the paths of the sun too you damn dirty apes.

Re:Build big concave reflective structures (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745233)

Missed opportunity for solar power collection, if you ask me. Instead of not building curved structures, curve away but do so in a manner that's actually useful and shows some foresight.

But that's what he did. Those parking places will be hotly contested by owners of electric cars with solar panels.

Headline (1)

Dan East (318230) | about a year ago | (#44743399)

Worst headline ever.

Re:Headline (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#44743881)

Man bites dog

Hyperbole (2)

srussia (884021) | about a year ago | (#44744197)

Worst headline ever.

It's OK to use it sometimes. Parabole on the other hand...

Re:Headline (1)

dcw3 (649211) | about a year ago | (#44744965)

Worst BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ever.

Most exaggerated phrase ever

This is what happens (2)

Noah69 (1083017) | about a year ago | (#44743405)

This is what happens when someone takes the concept of an Ice Cream Truck too literally.

Prior art in Las Vegas (5, Interesting)

danceswithtrees (968154) | about a year ago | (#44743471)

Reminded me of this article a couple years back:
http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/09/29/1622250/las-vegas-hotel-vdara-an-accidental-death-ray [slashdot.org]

Re:Prior art in Las Vegas (3, Informative)

ab8ten (551673) | about a year ago | (#44743971)

Same architect as the London tower :-D

Re:Prior art in Las Vegas (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year ago | (#44744719)

You'd think that they'd either smack the guy and transfer him to designing solar-thermal power systems, or smack the guy and have IT quietly remove all shiny materials from the materials library of his CAD program of choice... Especially after two "Hey, let's build a bloody gigantic concave parabolic reflector in the middle of a crowded area" incidents.

Re:Prior art in Las Vegas (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745903)

Or just make him sit in one of the hot spots all day.

Re:Prior art in Las Vegas (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year ago | (#44745985)

Given how people who have it in large quantities tend to exude it, I've concluded that obnoxious self importance is a compound with a relatively high vapor pressure. I'm not sure I'd risk heating a celebrity architect and causing its full supply to boil off.

Las Vegas too (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743491)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1316444/Las-Vegas-death-ray-hotel-leaves-guests-badly-burnt.html [dailymail.co.uk]

What kinds of idiots are designing these things? What other idiots are approving the plans and issuing permits? Quality is going downhill in everything.

Re:Las Vegas too (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743925)

In a throw away, plastic society, Quality control has become obsolete. Far cheaper to let the consumers be the QC analysts

Re:Las Vegas too (2)

Goaway (82658) | about a year ago | (#44744581)

What kinds of idiots are designing these things?

Rafael Vinoly, apparently.

Impossible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743519)

Rosie O'Donnell told me that steel doesn't melt!

Hot Wheels (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743521)

Are we sure this wasn't just an elaborate advert for Hot Wheels?

"Hot Wheels leadin' the waaay!"

Cringe! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743523)

This building looks exactly like the facetted mirrors for solar power plants. Some idiot probably considered it cute to evoke that image. What's next? Evoking the toppling tower of Pisa in Kyoto?

How can one be an architect and not recognize the cases where optical similarities imply physical ones?

Re: Cringe! (2)

mrbester (200927) | about a year ago | (#44743725)

Because they are so up their own arse that they think the derisory nicknames given to these monstrosities of glass and steel, such as Gherkin, Shard, Walkie Talkie, etc., are actually affectionate and we want London to look like Dubai, seeing as most of the prime estate is owned by sheiks.

So far this bullshit hasn't spread across the pond, but they're trying and what is worse, US councilmen are wowed by the opportunity to have a new building designed by dickheads such as Lord Foster (knighted for services to big business alongside desecration of skyline) that it is only a matter of time.

Re: Cringe! (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a year ago | (#44744459)

What's wrong with the Gherkin [google.nl] ? I can see why some people object to having an old city's skyline marred by skyscrapers, but if we're going to erect tall buildings anyway, I much prefer this over the next rectangular glass-and-steel slab.

Re: Cringe! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745001)

Well. It looks like a fucking vibrator. That's what is wrong with it.

Re:Cringe! (1)

hughk (248126) | about a year ago | (#44744557)

This is the point. Making big curved mirrors is expensive, so they use lots of straight pieces of glass to make a nice downwards focussing concave effect. So you take a new building with refelctive film on the windows, and you have a pretty good concentrator. Luckily not a very good one because there is a structure in Spain that gets to 4 figure temperatures.

Must be a hoax (5, Funny)

scsirob (246572) | about a year ago | (#44743665)

Can't be. This is supposed to have happened in the UK, where there are only vague rumours that there's such an entity as the sun.

In the UK, the Sun is flat, made of paper and ink, and would definitely melt people's character if it gets a chance.

Re:Must be a hoax (1)

gagol (583737) | about a year ago | (#44744193)

Cant be in America, here the Sun becale an Oracle!

Re:Must be a hoax (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744257)

Global Warming has resulted in the UK now having a Climate instead of the traditional Weather. The sun glares down most days, rarely being covered by cloud. Whole weeks pass with no rain during the months of summer, I went on holiday to a distant part of the country without any sort of coat, jacket or umbrella. Whoops, we broke the Earth.

Re:Must be a hoax (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744483)

I happen to work in an office in a small building, next to the Walkie-Talkie.
I saw people "sunbathing" in the glare of the building, but getting out of there after a few seconds.
The whole week was particularly hot, but Monday was exceptional.
Don't believe the myth that it always rains in London. Also, there was no fog for quite a few months.

Re:Must be a hoax (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744935)

No, you're thinking of Ireland, where the vampires of Europe can live quite unnoticed among the local population. As long as they have a pint of Guinness in front of them, no one cares if you don't actually drink it or eat enything. And once every decade or so, when a ray of direct sunlight gets through the fogs and the low clouds, the native Irish will ignite from it first.

Weather patterns (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44743921)

Obviously the engineers failed to factor in the 2 days of sunshine in London every year.

Florida Is Better (1)

b4upoo (166390) | about a year ago | (#44743987)

We have had incidents in which parts melted in summer in Florida from time to time. I recall a ford Pinto steering wheel having melted and slumped off of the wheel. We also see windows burst in cars with good door and window seals every now and then.

Re:Florida Is Better (1)

boarder8925 (714555) | about a year ago | (#44746345)

I've lived in Florida (Central) for thirteen years and never heard anything like either of those anecdotes.

Though I do remember the woman with the can of, what was it, Pillsbury rolls? that burst and she thought she'd been shot.

£946 ??? (1)

frootcakeuk (638517) | about a year ago | (#44744027)

For severe bodywork damage on a modern Jag? In London? Bullshit!

Re:£946 ??? (1)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about a year ago | (#44744089)

You're absolutely right. I wouldn't pay £5 for that car.

Re:£946 ??? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year ago | (#44744743)

They call the Loss Adjuster who came up with that figure 'Jack the Ripper'.

Reaim (0)

Neil Boekend (1854906) | about a year ago | (#44744299)

They should re-aim the building to a no parking spot.

Or focus it on a spot that can handle it. Perhaps a salt container. Use the molten salt to make steam and use that to make power (as has been done before).

Practical execution of re-aiming a building is left as an exercise to the reader because I have no idea how to do that.

Hello (2)

CuteSteveJobs (1343851) | about a year ago | (#44744343)

I am the architect of that building. Sorry, but I really hated that car.

Crikey (2)

gsslay (807818) | about a year ago | (#44744503)

You have to admire the owner's restraint on finding his car's been melted.

"'I am the owner. Crikey, that's awful."

Re:Crikey (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744775)

Decades ago, my parents were on a trip with us children in England. It was a seminal drive where my sister terminally established "I get a window seat because I'm getting sick otherwise": we brothers just managed to hand her through to the next window before she exploded barf all over the side of the car and the outside. A few hundred yards onwards my father stopped the car and we started cleaning it up, reverting to sage and other grasses and herbs on the side.

That's when a pair of British pedestrians strolled past us, greeting us with a friendly smile. Which was kind of really embarrassing since the gentleman had barf all over his side. I don't think that there are many countries where you can get that kind of reaction: you are almost certain to get a lot of rage and yelling. Never mind that there rarely is a lot of deliberation involved when children happen to vomit.

"Crikey, that's awful" reminded me of that.

Re:Crikey (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744989)

Well, to be honest, how often do you ever hear of MELTED cars?
That alone is a pretty amazing thing to see.

I'd laugh because I know that such an event was probably caused by someone else somewhere else that has a lot of money because melting cars has to be a very deliberate thing to do and would require said money previously mentioned whether it was from solar or some turbo ultra godlike version of wicked lasers devices.

Thank Tata, who got rid of any Britishness in them (1)

sethstorm (512897) | about a year ago | (#44744519)

As many corners that had to be cut, thank Tata for such a lower-quality car. At least Ford kept it British.

Had to be expected (1)

JockTroll (996521) | about a year ago | (#44744523)

When you try reverse-engineer the Martian Heat-Ray and use it in civil engineering.

NO The sun melted parts of the car (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744861)

It was not the building that did the melting and it was not the actual car that melted

A variant of...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44744987)

(London) Shards with frickin lazors

A variant of...... (3, Funny)

Paul James (3039579) | about a year ago | (#44744997)

(London) Shards with frickin lazors

Melts some plastic trim on a car (1)

DrXym (126579) | about a year ago | (#44745047)

Still really annoying but somewhat less impressive than if it actually buckled the car, or the heat set the thing on fire.

Death Star (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745081)

I have the feeling Death Star was badly constructed, should have been a concave sphere.

Note was paper... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44745275)

Good thing the note did not catch fire!

(AC cuz the password db remembers my password at home, I do not.. attribute this comment to Pentalive)

You could not get a better human detecting captcha "crisis" !!

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