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Drone Hunters Lining Up and Paying Out In Colorado

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the shoot-it-down dept.

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coondoggie writes "What might have started out a whimsical protest against government surveillance tactics has morphed into more as a small town in Colorado has found itself overwhelmed with requests and cash for a unmanned aircraft hunting license that doesn't exist."

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I still want one (5, Funny)

WalksOnDirt (704461) | about a year ago | (#44771163)

Yeah, not a real license. I don't care, I still want one.

Re:I still want one (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771189)

Sure, transfer 100 bucks to my Paypal and I'll give you your very own not real unmanned aircraft hunting license. Do you prefer it hand-made or do I have to open MSPaint?

Re:I still want one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771191)

it should come with a bumper sticker!

Irony (5, Insightful)

roman_mir (125474) | about a year ago | (#44771229)

I think this may fit the definition of irony, that people, who just may eventually be hunted by drones, are trying to get licenses to hunt the drones, while the drones that hunt them, do not need any license, because the people have already given the government enough power to ensure both: that they eventually can be hunted by drones (and no license required) and that they can't actually get a license to protect themselves.

On the second thought, this is not irony, it's just oppression.

Re:Irony (4, Funny)

LifesABeach (234436) | about a year ago | (#44771243)

Considering the size of the drone, driving through town with one tied on the hood could be problematic.

Re:Irony (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771285)

This is what happens when the Goyim go to war for Israel. Sick'em, boy! Get Iran too, like a good boy!

Rawwwrrrrr...

You're a good dog, America. Good boy!

Re:Irony (1)

Ksevio (865461) | about a year ago | (#44771353)

Drones used for surveillance would likely be small sized ones so they could fit nicely in a trunk

Re:Irony (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about a year ago | (#44771385)

This license isn't limited to "drones used for surveillance." It covers "unmanned aerial vehicle", and even some manned ones.

Re:Irony (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772491)

Well, I'd draw the line at manned ones.

But if you disguise your drones as birds, don't be surprised when I mistake them for one.

Re:Irony (4, Funny)

Main Gauche (881147) | about a year ago | (#44771611)

*sigh* you've never field dressed a drone?

Re:Irony (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#44771779)

*sigh* you've never field dressed a drone?

Aren't spy drones mainly involved in people undressing?

Re:Irony (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772499)

I know there is a high school prom joke about how my partner was kinda dull hidden in here somewhere, but I just can't really pinpoint it.

Re:Irony (1)

mysidia (191772) | about a year ago | (#44771833)

Considering the size of the drone, driving through town with one tied on the hood could be problematic.

That's not the biggest problem for whoever shoots one down. It's the free (mandatory) all-expenses paid trip to Guantanomo bay, followed by indefinite detention.

Re:Irony (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772509)

Why does the old Soviet joke come to mind?

Pravda has made a competition for the best political joke. First prize: 10 years vacation in Siberia.

Re:Irony (1)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | about a year ago | (#44772565)

In Soviet Russia, "You shoot drone"? Or "You Take Drone Freedom"?

Has anyone else noticed a bit of an (internet) September effect going on here at /.?

Maybe the fact that we knew and complained about this NSA stuff first has brought a bunch of people from the web?

Re:Irony (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771295)

I think this may fit the definition of irony, that people, who just may eventually be hunted by drones, are trying to get licenses to hunt the drones, while the drones that hunt them, do not need any license, because the people have already given the government enough power to ensure both: that they eventually can be hunted by drones (and no license required) and that they can't actually get a license to protect themselves.

On the second thought, this is not irony, it's just oppression.

Clearly the only way to fix the situation is to disarm the citizenry.

Re:Irony (1)

BlueStrat (756137) | about a year ago | (#44772331)

On the second thought, this is not irony, it's just oppression.

Clearly the only way to fix the situation is to disarm the citizenry.

[US Gov In MiB "Bug" Voice]: "Your proposal is acceptable."

Strat

Re:Irony (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772483)

It's funny how people of a country that was founded by people who flipped their sovereign off consider it necessary to get a license to do the same to theirs...

Re:I still want one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771323)

I would LOVE to put that on my business cards, just in small print at the bottom. "Licensed Drone Hunter".

Re:I still want one (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772511)

Do it. What keeps you from doing so?

Re:I still want one (2)

Paradise Pete (33184) | about a year ago | (#44771479)

"That's not a drone license. It's a dog license with the word dog crossed out and the word drone written in."
"The man didn't have the proper form."

Yerp, (1)

mjwx (966435) | about a year ago | (#44772095)

Drone sure is good eatin'

Why else does all Y'all think I need a drone shootin' license.

Re:Yerp, (2)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about a year ago | (#44772493)

This is going to come up some day.

Person flies personal drone over another's property, intentionally or accidentally.
Property owner shoots it down.
Shooter puts drone guts go on ebay - even as spare parts, they would be worth quite a bit.
Original drone owner claims theft.

Re:Yerp, (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772513)

Does the "it's coming right at me" rule work for drones?

Re:Yerp, (1)

stealth_finger (1809752) | about a year ago | (#44772735)

Does the "it's coming right at me" rule work for drones?

Nah, they are over populated so you have to use the 'Thinning out their numbers'. Because you can't have them all starving to death now can you?

Re:I still want one (1)

jamesh (87723) | about a year ago | (#44772145)

Yeah, not a real license. I don't care, I still want one.

You could store it in your wallet along with your Federal Breast Inspector license :p

Obligatory (5, Funny)

ClickOnThis (137803) | about a year ago | (#44771169)

In Soviet Russia, drones shoot you!

[Uh, wait ... maybe not just in Soviet Russia ...]

Re:Obligatory (1)

sjwt (161428) | about a year ago | (#44772407)

LMFTFY

In American freed Afghanistan, Drones hunt you.

Hello, congress! (2)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year ago | (#44771183)

Are you listening? It seems your constituents may not be all that keen on having drones used on civilian populations.

Oh yeah, it's not an election year. So I guess not.

Re:Hello, congress! (4, Funny)

pla (258480) | about a year ago | (#44771253)

Are you listening?

What a silly question! Of course they listen! Why, we have a whole intelligence agency with no legitimate purpose other than to listen in on...

Oh, you didn't mean "illegally spy on", you meant "take your bosses seriously". Sorry, simple mistake.

Re:Hello, congress! (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year ago | (#44771289)

Oh, you didn't mean "illegally spy on", you meant "take your bosses seriously". Sorry, simple mistake.

Tomato, potato, Tomato, potato...

Re:Hello, congress! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771393)

Oh, you didn't mean "illegally spy on", you meant "take your bosses seriously".

I'm pretty sure the guy with the guns, spy agencies and molestation rights is the boss, not the other way around. Having to vote for them is just a formality.

fuck a g8aa (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771205)

create, man@ufacture The accounting

Waiting for hunters to mistake others for a drone (1)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about a year ago | (#44771223)

News at 11 - Bob Fink blew up the house of his best friend John Ackers today in Deer Trail after mistaking him for a CIA drone. John Ackers mistook Bob's missile as a terrorist attack and blew up Deer Trail's only Mosques in retaliation.

That totally sucks! (2)

sgt scrub (869860) | about a year ago | (#44771269)

"Shooting at an unmanned aircraft could result in criminal or civil liability, just as would firing at a manned airplane." I thought manned airplanes flew at high altitude over my house because I WAS allowed to shoot at them. The trailer parks is getting to be a real drag.

What a sad state is the educational system... (0)

mikeiver1 (1630021) | about a year ago | (#44771283)

Am I the only one that did a double uber face palm after reading this? HOW FUCKING STUPID HAS THE GENERAL PUBLIC BECOME? A license to hunt US Government property? What a bunch of mouth breathing window licking morons we have degenerated into if people are actually showing up for one. I would love to see this from their perspective but I can't seem to get my head up my ass. Reality check Mike here, no government entity is going to hand out licenses to hunt and destroy "GOVERNMENT PROPERTY" you morons. Seriously I expected more from people in that part of the nation. Isn't this the kind of shit you read about in the south for fucks sake? So much stupid I have a problem wrapping my head around it. Perhaps I should go and huff paint fumes for an hour or two and come back to it for another go.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771335)

I think it sends out a good message like this http://www.ecuadortimes.net/2012/11/16/dont-vote-blank-nor-null-vote-for-don-burro/

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772529)

Hmm... makes you wonder, does it say anywhere in the constitution that a congressman actually has to be a human? Donkeys would be much cheaper, less prone to bribery and not that much more useless.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44773089)

since apperently a cat can be the mayor [wikipedia.org] I don't see why not.

After all, one ass or another, what's the difference?

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771371)

Am I the only one that did a double uber face palm after reading this?

Probably. I'm sure most of these people just want one for the collector value. Heck, If they were actually issuing documents I'd pay the $25 just to get one and show all my friends and co-workers.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year ago | (#44771375)

no government entity is going to hand out licenses to hunt and destroy "GOVERNMENT PROPERTY"

Yes, because no one has ever obtained a hunting license and then legally hunted on federal or state owned game lands. Oh, wait, they have.

Obviously I was being facetious. I have a feeling that this is more of a protest for the majority of these people. I'm not sure what part of the nation you are referring to, as it appears that it's not just "that part". From TFA:

two weeks ago when the tally of personal checks made out to the town hit 983 [Deer Trails' own population is about 560] and $19,006. The checks came from all over the U.S.

Perhaps you've already huffed paint fumes one too many times to realize that there are citizens who aren't very happy about having drones used on the civilian population. You know, big brother, eye-in-the-sky and all. Maybe, just maybe some people believe this will draw a little more attention to the issue.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about a year ago | (#44771381)

A license to hunt US Government property?

The license includes but is not limited to government property. Read the actual proposal. [deertrailcolorado.com]

Unmanned aerial vehicle. Below 1000 feet. Most people can't determine the altitude of a passing aircraft. The local airport gets calls from people all the time about pilots who are allegedly buzzing the city "too low", but radar shows they were quite legal (above 1000'). Some of these aircraft are ones like this [wikipedia.org] , which is hard to tell is manned from a distance.

Thank goodness the law exempts "toy" vehicles, but includes manned aircraft that are "following" someone. Or looks like it has "weapons".

But you're right about stupidity. Stupid, thy name is Deer Trail.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772537)

Personally, I'm all for being allowed to down planes flying lower than 1000 feet (with a grace area around airports since, well, they somehow have to get there). Anywhere else, they simply have no business flying lower.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

Deadstick (535032) | about a year ago | (#44771441)

It's the kind of gag item they sell in truck stops next to the naked women mudflaps. Take a deep breath, dude.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

sgt scrub (869860) | about a year ago | (#44771749)

You forgot, "get off my lawn".

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (2)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44772567)

Yes, I believe you are. Most people recognize this as being about halfway between a funny novelty item and a serious protest.

I think you've huffed quite enough paint fumes for one day.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (1)

stealth_finger (1809752) | about a year ago | (#44772751)

Am I the only one that did a double uber face palm after reading this? HOW FUCKING STUPID HAS THE GENERAL PUBLIC BECOME?

Probably, most of the general public is stupid enough to realise it's just a big ol' joke. Take a breath before you flip out, you'll live longer.

Re:What a sad state is the educational system... (3, Insightful)

Spiked_Three (626260) | about a year ago | (#44772933)

"HOW FUCKING STUPID HAS THE GENERAL PUBLIC BECOME? "

The head of the science committee in congress, an elected person, does not believe in dinosaurs and climate change.

WTF does that tell you about America at least?

Hmmm. I may have to go fly an RC plane over there (1)

WindBourne (631190) | about a year ago | (#44771303)

then sue the pants off of whomever decides that they have the fucking rights to shot my RC plane out of the air.

Re:Hmmm. I may have to go fly an RC plane over the (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about a year ago | (#44771405)

Sorry, the law says the shooter must pay you the cost of the vehicle, that's all.

Re:Hmmm. I may have to go fly an RC plane over the (1)

mdenham (747985) | about a year ago | (#44771605)

I'm pretty sure an RC plane costs more than the shooter's pants, so he would technically be able to sue the pants off of the shooter and still get some money as well.

Re:Hmmm. I may have to go fly an RC plane over the (1)

khallow (566160) | about a year ago | (#44771807)

You cannot afford to have my pants removed!

Re:Hmmm. I may have to go fly an RC plane over the (1)

Cederic (9623) | about a year ago | (#44772563)

I assure you, I can. You'd be amazed what violent criminals will do to other people for a small fee.

Sign Me Up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771337)

I'll do scientific development and engineering tests of a 'low carbon foot print' 'energy efficient' 'Politically Neutral' 'Gay Lesbian Transexual Transgender Left-Right Handedness Neutral Cat-Dog Neutral' and language independent slingshot!

In the Bible David 'Roman Era hacker' killed Goliath 'Roman Era Asshole [personification of the U.S.A. today]' with a simple bolo-type slingshot.

Hay, paraphrasing Biblical scripture and I'm an Atheist!

Ha ha.

Re:Sign Me Up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771871)

How is David "Roman Era"? He lived around 1000 BCE, well before Rome was a power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David [wikipedia.org]

Re:Sign Me Up! (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772541)

Cut him some slack, for those US boys anything before 1774 is "in prehistoric times".

Re:Sign Me Up! (1)

stealth_finger (1809752) | about a year ago | (#44772797)

If it's in the bible it's safe to assume it never actually happened, and if it did nothing like the way it says.

Just what we need. (1)

seeker_1us (1203072) | about a year ago | (#44771367)

A bunch of guys shooting up in the air in an uncontrolled manner.

Re:Just what we need. (1)

sgt scrub (869860) | about a year ago | (#44771695)

Yeah. Duck season.

Re:Just what we need. (1)

mjwx (966435) | about a year ago | (#44772101)

Yeah. Duck season.

Rabbit season.

Re:Just what we need. (1)

stealth_finger (1809752) | about a year ago | (#44772803)

Yeah. Duck season.

Wabbit season.

FTFY

Nonono!! (1)

dutchwhizzman (817898) | about a year ago | (#44772599)

The permit system is supposed to control the manner in which they are shooting up in the air. It's all perfectly legal and controlled if we set up a permit system, just like with firearms in general.

Drones vs. Planes (2)

NouberNou (1105915) | about a year ago | (#44771369)

I have never understood the hatred and mistrust placed on drones versus aircraft, fixed or rotary wing. It seems like a bunch of Luddites. Drones are cheaper, safer, and usually more capable at doing the task at hand than fixed wing or rotary wing aircraft at doing a job thats already been done for decades by law enforcement and the military. Also a drone, in the military at least, allows for a more calm and collected engagement of targets, reducing collateral damage and fratricide.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (5, Insightful)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about a year ago | (#44771401)

So you are saying that drones are a cheap, easy, and incredibly effective way to oppressive your citizens, and you are wondering why everyone is worried?

Re:Drones vs. Planes (4, Insightful)

Obfuscant (592200) | about a year ago | (#44771411)

So you are saying that drones are a cheap, easy, and incredibly effective way to oppressive your citizens,

They're also a cheap, safer way to obtain scientific data in remote areas of the country (like Deer Ass, Colorado). Despite the paranoia, not all UAV use is for shooting you while you sleep.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771501)

But nearly all of drone use is spying on someone or something. You painting the DOW logo on the wing wont make me think you are counting deer in Ft Collins.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771723)

[Citation Needed]

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772073)

But nearly all of drone use is spying on someone or something. You painting the DOW logo on the wing wont make me think you are counting deer in Ft Collins.

Are you going to attack someone for taking count of cars traveling down their road because they are "gathering intelligence" or "spying"?

You should focus on how people ACT, not what they KNOW.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44773109)

Right, cause governements in general and the US in particular have a such a good track-record for never abusing their powers.
It's not like there's known cases of law-enforcement targetting politcal opposition. That obviously has never happened, MacCarthyism (to name the most well-known period where it actually happened) is a myth.[/sarcasm]

Re:Drones vs. Planes (3, Interesting)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44772555)

No problem. Get a license to fly that thing over there where you have to state a reason and have the county/city permit it. Make the government do the same. Pass a law that it may not be used to stalk or harass anyone (or why should you be allowed to fly a drone over your ex' house to see who she dates now?). Make records public of who obtained such a license and for what purpose.

That would already be enough to make sure my paranoia sleeps well tonight.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772049)

So you are saying that drones are a cheap, easy, and incredibly effective way to oppressive your citizens, and you are wondering why everyone is worried?

Men with sticks are cheaper, easier, and more effective. Why are you worried?

Seriously, you folks have insecurity issues. How you can fear intelligence gathering and drones more than destroyers, jets, tanks, and rifles borders on the insane.

What the fuck do drones have to do with oppression? You could achieve that any number of ways with old technology, you are just a luddite.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

Cederic (9623) | about a year ago | (#44772573)

How you can fear intelligence gathering and drones more than destroyers, jets, tanks, and rifles borders on the insane.

What the fuck do drones have to do with oppression?

Clearly you missed the news about the unmanned drones killing people in Pakistan and the US Government's indicated williingness to use them to kill US citizens within the USA with no judicial oversight.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

blackest_k (761565) | about a year ago | (#44772949)

Using "destroyers, jets, tanks, and rifles" against ordinary people in your own nation is completely unacceptable and liable to cause civil war.

Why are drones any less of an issue when used against the citizens of that same country? Is it less oppressive to imprison citizens who disagree with you?

 

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

91degrees (207121) | about a year ago | (#44772481)

Well, it's not like being expensive is going to stop the a government from oppressing its citizens.Usually thry can get hold of money pretty easily.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about a year ago | (#44772489)

drones are a cheap, easy, and incredibly effective way to oppressive your citizens

No, he's saying that drones are a cheap, easy, incredibly effective and safe way to oppress your citizens.

Pffft, Luddites .. who needs them.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772687)

So, Peristoteles, Socrates and Luddites walked to a bar...

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771443)

You don't have much imagination then, do you? Eventually a functional surveillance drone will cost under $100 - multiply by 300 million and everybody gets the "benefit" of having one. $30 Billion is chump change to the US.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

Larryish (1215510) | about a year ago | (#44772915)

Cheap drones for the masses. The Obama Drone.

Can I control my Obama Drone from my Obama Phone?

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

Spiked_Three (626260) | about a year ago | (#44772953)

You mean google glasses from an iPhone, right?

why the fuck does putting a corporate logo on something make it better than a government label?

And you do realize the government intercepts and uses all the face tags on facebook right? It is why the government lets them pay 0 taxes. You've been voluntarily working for them (the government) giving/classifying information for years.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771823)

Their low cost and ease of use makes sure they will be used for THOUSANDS more tasks (many potentially illegal per our constitution) than manned craft ever will be.

'When all you've got is a hammer. Everything looks like a nail'

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

labnet (457441) | about a year ago | (#44772051)

I have never understood the hatred and mistrust placed on drones versus aircraft,

I think the issue is that is much easier to push the 'fire' button when it all looks like a videogame, compared to being in a plane/helicopter as a human pushing the button.
With America heading toward corporate fascism, there will be a big need to 'protect the citizens from the nasty terrorist protestors'. Drones have scalability, and the 20yr old kids will think it's just like a video game.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (3, Insightful)

NouberNou (1105915) | about a year ago | (#44772157)

I actually personally know a number of drone operators and its not a "just push a button" type scenario. Weapons release requires a significant amount of authorization, ranging from commanders in the field to lawyers in the pentagon. There is up to a dozen people in the chain of command that are all required to say "yes" to engage targets.

The reason they have the luxury is because it is a drone and not a pilot over enemy territory (this is in operations that occur in "areas" not recognized, where the country letting them do the drone strikes doesn't particularly want it known to their general population). A fighter pilot has a lot more stress, and they are more prone to making bad decisions because of the many more immediate constraints on their judgment.

Do drones allow these types of attacks to occur more easily? Probably, but on the other hand they'd probably be executed in some form or fashion either way (cruise missile strikes, which are far more prone to failure in target selection, or human operations, aka spec-ops or hired guns/foreign service).

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

labnet (457441) | about a year ago | (#44772325)

Thanks for your comments, and no offence intended to your drone friends. That chain of command may be in operation now, but if there is mass civil unrest, requiring 'thousands of drones', this authority could be curtailed to just the drone operator... or even more scary, computer AI.

Re:Drones vs. Planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772339)

That's the miltary. What makes you think your local cops won't be trigger happy?

It's easy to imagine drones replacing police cars for most tasks. Patrolling would be far more effective. Officers not on the streets in harms way and you can shoot the bad guys without any danger. Not to mention less manpower required.

The local police will want far more surveillance capabilities then your average drone opertor. That means invasive stuff like IR, facial recognition, automated plate reader, etc. It's not much of a stretch to argue it's all perfectly legal since you have no privacy in public. A few court decisions or laws changed and they'll be free to spy on everybody all the time.

The NSA spying doesn't seem to faze anyone. Why would spying in public be worse?

Re:Drones vs. Planes (1)

b4upoo (166390) | about a year ago | (#44772783)

There are also hunters who want to use a drone with a gun mounted on it to take game. A suppose that if we allow hunting by helicopter we might as well allow hunting with a drone. The oops factor might be fun to watch. Can a drone identify a safety orange hunting vest?

It's a muninciple license (1)

ljhiller (40044) | about a year ago | (#44771813)

The license, if it existed, would exempt you from being fined by the city for unlicensed shooting of a drone. The owner of the drones, particularly if the owner of the drones is the state or federal government, will not be so nice. As a joke, it's funny. People taking it seriously, believing it offers some legal protection, are delusional. It's like doing a search-and-seizure on your neighbor with a badge from a Cracker Jack box.

Re:It's a muninciple license (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771929)

Crap, I guess I should go put his stuff back before he gets home from work then....

Seriously America? (2)

sidevans (66118) | about a year ago | (#44771891)

Does your solution to everything have to be shoot / bomb it? Surely you guys can be more creative - EMP, Deathray. signal jammer / spoofer, hack the drone maybe I dunno... There's got to be better ways of bringing down machines than technology that's been around since the Song Dynasty in China (960 - 1279).

Kickstart for the opposition! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44771933)

Let's start a Kickstarter campaign for the creation of a home-built rocket with visual target acquisition that can take out a drone! No high-explosives, just compressed air and a cloud of bb's for a turbine intake, or a bunch of high-test super-thin filament wire or fishing line to tangle the prop. Something likened to a weighted net they use for riot control.

Or maybe some kind of broad-spectrum jammer with double-stick tape to overload its ability to communicate? Mineral oil cloud to screw up the optics? Small spikes that trail thin wires to draw lightning? Trained flying monkeys to jump on its back and totally screw with its aerodynamics?

C'mon guys - out of the box thinking here. Not everyone in Colorado can afford a Phalanx cannon.

I'm sure a couple of Arduino's, a few das blinken lights and a big old mess of home made rocket propellant will get it done. Screw those rednecks with pimp-pistols and rifles...

Re:Kickstart for the opposition! (2)

stealth_finger (1809752) | about a year ago | (#44772823)

Trained flying monkeys to jump on its back and totally screw with its aerodynamics?

That's your winner right there!

What Could Possibly Go Wrong? (3, Insightful)

BBCWatcher (900486) | about a year ago | (#44772097)

I don't think anybody likes drones except perhaps the people who build them. However, I'm really upset with the idiots who even think about pointing a weapon up in the sky -- or aiming a laser, for that matter -- in a misguided attempt to fight the spread of drones. There are *people* flying overhead all the time in aircraft both small and large, and there's no way to tell which aircraft is manned and which isn't even if you want to do something stupid. There's a federal death penalty for anyone interfering with an aircraft (or "related facilities") that results in death, so this is serious stuff. I don't like it when people go duck hunting without being careful not to point their weapons anywhere near a family cruising along in their Cessna. If you want to fight the spread of drones then do it in ways that won't get people hurt or killed -- resulting in more drones, probably. Defund them, prevent them from being based in or launched from your community or state, boycott their manufacturers and affiliates, tax them heavily, make their owners/operators/manufacturers personally liable for the worst torts imaginable, and/or whatever. But for the sake of the people up in the skies, please, please don't even think about shooting at them.

Re:What Could Possibly Go Wrong? (2)

cbope (130292) | about a year ago | (#44772299)

Exactly. Has anyone actually thought about what might happen if you are actually able to shoot one from the sky? A drone is a small aircraft. Do you really want that falling in your neighborhood? If people start actually shooting them from the skies, it won't be long before some innocent people on the ground are killed by falling parts or the whole aircraft itself. Shooting them is about the most stupid thing you can do, ever. How about voting the idiots out of office who are supporting them in the first place? That would be a good start.

Re:What Could Possibly Go Wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772549)

However, I'm really upset with the idiots who even think about pointing a weapon up in the sky ... in a misguided attempt to fight the spread of drones

FINE then. I'll go get a hunting license AND a single engine pilot license. That way I can shoot DOWN at them. Are you happy now?
 
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Re:What Could Possibly Go Wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772615)

You pretend to sound smart, but you can't be more mistaken...
"Defund them" - I'm not the government, I don't have a say...
"prevent them from being based in or launched from your community or state" - how to do that without shooting them down? Do you think they will listen when I simply and politely say "please don't"? Do you think voting actually works? And even if it did... Do you think that there aren't any other issues that can divide voters?
"boycott their manufacturers and affiliates" - I'm not their customer, I can't do that...
"tax them heavily, make their owners/operators/manufacturers personally liable for the worst torts imaginable" - I'm NOT the government! This is the moment when I'm starting to loose my patience for your unmesurable ignorance...
"and/or whatever" - yeah, that sounds like a solid plan!

And -> if you didn't catch it yet from my grammar, I'm not an american bandit. So even if the voting did work (it clearly doesn't, both in my country and in yours), I wouldn't have a say in where and when YOUR #$@#$ AMERICAN KILLER DRONES FLY. And it's a fact that you fly them in foreign airspaces. So... How smart are you, american ter***ist.

Re:What Could Possibly Go Wrong? (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44772627)

It isn't actually all that hard to tell a drone from a manned vehicle using a half decent scope. It would be irresponsible to shoot one down in a neighborhood or urban setting (where discharging a gun is also illegal), but if it's flying over an empty field, human safety isn't a problem.

I haven't seen any reports ever of an aircraft being shot by hunters. Perhaps it has happened, but I'd think it would make the news.

The real question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772139)

How much is a drone worth in scrap and their tech on the black market?

Re:The real question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772251)

Why don't you get one and find out?

Re:The real question... (2)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#44772631)

I also wonder where one finds a taxidermist that can put a drone on an attractive mounting.

Re:The real question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772799)

Don't bother, just haul it to your nearest Russian embassy. I'm sure they'd pay more than the $100 bounty to get their hands on the latest US drone technology.

Re:The real question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44772889)

Chuck Testa?

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