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Sexist Presentations At Startup Competition Prompt TechCrunch Apology

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the lets-try-this-again dept.

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beaverdownunder writes "Silicon Valley technology conference organizers TechCrunch have been forced to apologize after two Australian men pitched a smartphone app called "Titstare" in front of a nine-year-old girl. The Sydney duo's presentation had the mainly male audience laughing, but angered Twitter users and reignited a debate about sexism in the technology sector. The two entrepreneurs — Jethro Batts, 28, and David Boulton, 24 — pitched their 'tongue in cheek' idea at TechCrunch Disrupt in San Francisco on Sunday after winning expenses for the trip to the US in a similar competition, AngelHack Sydney. In their pitch, Boulton explained to an audience of hundreds (plus thousands online) that it would allow users to 'take photos of yourself, looking at tits'. 'It's science my good friend, science,' Boulton said. TechCrunch also apologized for another pitch for a product called Circle Shake, in which a man simulated masturbation."

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Congratulations (-1, Flamebait)

glavenoid (636808) | about a year ago | (#44796699)

Congratulations Jethro Batts, 28, and David Boulton, 24 for showing young women interested in technology exactly what assholes they have to look forward to growing up. Your joke was real funny and we're all impressed, and this totally isn't going to ostracize either of you in the worst possible way.

Re:Congratulations (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796747)

I'm offended by your post. You should be forced to apologize.

Re:Congratulations (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796773)

I am offended at your offense.

Re:Congratulations (5, Insightful)

Myu (823582) | about a year ago | (#44796985)

Oh, ffs, the reason you don't make category-targetted jokes like this isn't because it causes offense (it does, and people are entitled to be offended, but that's neither here nor there), but because it's a pointed act of exclusion. Some people are offended by my use of the term "ffs", and that's fine, they are right to be offended, and I'm being offensive here for a reason. But I'm not in the process of making this point telling those same people that they're not welcome in this discussion. Approvingly presenting a product about staring at women's chests in a technology conference very much is.

Power trip and nothing more. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797143)

But I'm not in the process of making this point telling those same people that they're not welcome in this discussion. Approvingly presenting a product about staring at women's chests in a technology conference very much is.

Being offended is nothing but a power trip. Get offended, well the OTHER person has to change according to the fucked up mores of our society. Offended people get to exert power over another person - if they allow it.

If one doesn't like what one says, you ignore it. If your precious little snowflake hears something that you want to shelter her from, then you need to discuss with her about what she heard and get a grip because she WILL hear things that are going to offend you time and time again and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop it.

Now, get a fucking grip.

Re:Congratulations (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796781)

Nonsense. This is an isolated incident. The people putting women off technology are those going around claiming that all men are like this, and that it's a widespread problem.

Re:Congratulations (1, Interesting)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about a year ago | (#44797091)

Nonsense. This is an isolated incident.

Yes, men staring at tits, talking about staring at tits, finding new ways to stare at tits, finding new tits to stare at, or rating tits is all a new thing, invented by the giant sausage factory that is technology development.

Normally men choose to do this without women around, I suspect that the lack of gender balance at these things tends to bring out the frat boy mentality that would otherwise be suppressed.

Re:Congratulations (4, Funny)

hedwards (940851) | about a year ago | (#44797125)

Umm, I don't know about you, but when I stare at tits, I prefer them to be female tits. Moobs are just nasty.

Re:Congratulations (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796787)

Maybe their friends and co-workers aren't humourless beta-males such as yourself and the rest of the social justice crowd. It was a lame joke, end of story. No outrage needed.

Re:Congratulations (2, Funny)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44796841)

"You treat women like human beings, you must be a particularly physically weak male. Cower before my obviously flawed logic, and limited mental capacity"

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796915)

i kan reed must be Rand Paul's secret account.

Re:Congratulations (4, Funny)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44796937)

I've never been quite so insulted in a manner that made quite so little sense in my life.

Re:Congratulations (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44797163)

I've never been quite so insulted in a manner that made quite so little sense in my life.

You need to spend more time browsing at -1, then :)

Re:Congratulations (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796925)

Male feminists are the worst.

Re:Congratulations (0)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44796983)

You ever notice how people who hate women for imagined reasons are also good at hating lots of men for imagined reasons too? Like they don't have anything useful to contribute to society, so all they have left is being angry at people who do?

Re:Congratulations (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797101)

Not the guy you're replying to but, I love women. My wife is truly my equal, and I respect her as I would a 'man'. I also respect all races equally (she's white and I'm half black but visibly all black). Having said that I just do not get male feminists. Feminism stopped being about equality in the 70s, today it is about 'womyn' over men sorta the way the black panthers wanted equality by stomping white people.

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797129)

Feminists are toxic. Male feminists doubly so. Note that I am not saying that you should not be nice to women (Why just women? Be nice to everybody.) The problem is with the extremists. Sexism can be a problem, but if sexism is your topic to an extent that you become a feminist, then you are the problem, not the sexism. If you're fighting for the eradication of sexist jokes, you're tilting at windmills, and that leaves a mark on your personality that's impossible to ignore. You don't call for someone's head (or for ostracizing them) because they've made an inappropriate presentation. That's the kind of extremism that creates a much more hostile workplace environment than the joke itself. Bad jokes are to be dealt with, not to be done away with.

I was wondering what that galloping sound was (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796935)

You're late to the party, white knight. The village has already been pillaged.

Re:I was wondering what that galloping sound was (2)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44797027)

Oh how scathing, being accused of coming to rescue of [ERROR MISSING FEMALE IN CONVERSATION] for the hope of sex with them. There is absolutely no reason to defend the notion that all people are created equal beyond combination pity-thanks sex.

Re:Congratulations (3, Informative)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year ago | (#44797071)

How do we stop racism? Stop talking about it.
--Morgan freeman

Same for sexism. Stop getting outraged and making a huge fuss over it, and get over it. People say things that are offensive around me all the time, but my getting outraged wouldnt really change much.

Re:Congratulations (4, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44797115)

How do we stop racism? Stop talking about it.

Yeah, Martin Luther King Jr should have just STFU about his dreams.

IOW sometimes shutting up is not the right choice.

Re:Congratulations (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44797167)

Yeah, remember when we didn't talk about racism back in the early 1800s. Not a peep of discrimination then. Morgan Freeman is an actor, distanced by a fuck-ton of money and a great deal of celebrity from the day-to-day discrimination that a lot of African Americans face.

It's not your job to get outraged, but that doesn't mean that horrible things aren't happening.

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796917)

It was a lame joke, end of story

So then why are you complaining of others being humorless? If it is so obviously a lame joke, then it has no value across the board, and seems like a pointless exercise that most can expect to piss someone off. If it were actually very funny on the other hand, there are times that the risk of being offensive is worth it. You will sometimes find people telling offensive jokes if they are funny enough, even though it is quite obviously not expressing any opinion of the joke teller.

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796789)

and this totally isn't going to ostracize either of you in the worst possible way.

Most startups fail, so when the need a job I wonder how many companies will hire these two ... and will it be against the objections of their HR personnel? And if their startup is successful, will they be able to draw female talent? Will another company want to buy them if they have a rep for being sexist asshats?

Let's hope the venture capitalists have better judgement than these two.

Re:Congratulations (1)

sosume (680416) | about a year ago | (#44796797)

Please post a pic of them on twitter and get them fired, that should help your cause.

Re:Congratulations (1)

glavenoid (636808) | about a year ago | (#44796923)

What cause? At what point did I advocate anything?

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796827)

Yep it seems juvenile behaviour is promoted by technology start-ups. I am a man but think both apps demonstrated by these morons are inappropriate even in an all-male audience. It is as though Anthony Weiner was not such an anomaly in terms of the behaviour of some males. Grow-up or someone will snip, snip your weiners Jethro and David.

Re:Congratulations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796831)

Funny thing is that i believe these guys (and IT people on their 20's/30's) are not that sexist. What we don't need is assho...people like you ready to crucify others for stupid mistakes.

Re:Congratulations (0, Troll)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#44796879)

well where the fuck are tit app developers supposed to show their stuff then? it's big business you know. as stupid it is it might well be the most viable app at that gathering.

tit apps = bad. apps that let 10 year olds try slutty clothing and makeup virtually good? and then there's shit like this official app https://itunes.apple.com/app/honey-boo-you/id694249248?mt=8 [apple.com]

and wtf was 9 year old doing there? it's a fucking pitching gathering.

Re:Congratulations (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44796959)

tit apps = bad. apps that let 10 year olds try slutty clothing and makeup virtually good?

So because some people somewhere thing that app is "good" it therefore applies universally and therefore makes complaints about "titstare " hypocritical?

Really? (1)

rochrist (844809) | about a year ago | (#44796703)

What are these people? 10 years old?

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797113)

Australian men acting like immature turds. Shocking news.

The immature ones are (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796713)

the people offended by this. Grow up!

Funny (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796717)

I would have thought that their talk was satirical with an ironic twist, thereby not being sexist at all in the given context.

How wrong the political correctness freaks have proved me once more!

eh? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796719)

That is not sexism, poor taste at best.

Re:eh? (0)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44796867)

Objectification is conventionally considered sexism even when it doesn't contain explicit stereotypes, because it's implicitly dehumanizing. You don't consider it sexism.

Re:eh? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797009)

Objectification is conventionally considered sexism even when it doesn't contain explicit stereotypes, because it's implicitly dehumanizing.

Would it have been sexist if the talk were given by a woman? I don't know about you, but I know a few women (yes, mature adults) who would use that app. Objectification by members of the opposite sex is considered sexism by the PC crowd. When my wife does it, it's OK. Or when a woman gets breast implants so her tits will get noticed, it's OK. When my lesbian friends do it, it's OK. But when a young man does it, somehow it is now sexism?

I call it bullshit.

Re:eh? (3, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44797045)

Yes, women can be sexist. Objectification can go both ways, and can even be homosexual. Oddly, in public avenues like these, it almost always appears to come from politically dominant classes, and these hypothetical questions are almost never relevant. How strange is that?

Re:eh? (3, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | about a year ago | (#44797177)

That's called selection bias. Whenever I see it around here, it's generally women. Mainly because men are too afraid of having a spurious law suit filed against them.

Most of the lectures on equal rights are really just a cover for feminist propaganda. Tons of statistics taken out of context and god help any that bother to point out that there's cherry picking going on to make things look bad for women.

Re:eh? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797083)

Once upon a time these things had a meaningful definition but now everything that's bad or insensitive gets clumped there even though it's miles away from the original concept. Thus, now we get to live in a world where making stereotypical joke is conventionally considered the same as genuinely claiming that some groups of people are inferior to others and discriminating against them is okay.

Re:eh? (0)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44797119)

Durr, both are wrong in that they propagate stereotypes, while different degrees of wrong, both are legal in that they're free speech. You should stop pretending that being judged for the things you say is the same as sitting in front of a judge for the things you say.

Objectification is not necessarily evil (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797133)

When did it become the ethical equivalent of a hate crime?

Re:eh? (2, Interesting)

hedwards (940851) | about a year ago | (#44797161)

Objectification of women is conventionally considered sexism. Objectification of men is just hunky dory. Seems to me that women ought to clean their own house before bitching about when men do it. Or at least make some meaningful effort to do so.

Not to mention all the TV, movies and video games that reduce the role of a man to a paycheck or cannon fodder.

Re:eh? (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#44797173)

It's not "hunky-dory", and that's the end of that entire line of reasoning.

Re:eh? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796899)

Yup. However, notice how the pretty much the entire audience was laughing too? So all of them displayed poor taste.

I hate how this world is being transformed such that everything must coming from a man's mouth must be filtered through a vagina. Oh wait. sorry.

Yes, it's poor taste making such comments in such a public in front of what should be professionals. But, the extent that this has reached is exaggerated IMO. Everyone seems to have their panties all bunched up. Wait..sorry again.

Should have done it on MTV (4, Insightful)

Chemisor (97276) | about a year ago | (#44796727)

So it's wrong for a guy to talk about "taking a picture of yourself staring at tits" and to simulate masturbation in public, but it's perfectly all right for Miley Cyrus to do the same (and more!) on national television in front of millions of people? I guess they should have done it on MTV; then it would have been ok.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796753)

She was a woman so it's ok. Feminists don't care if women express sexuality, but if a man so much as talks about looking at a woman sexually, it's rape.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (5, Informative)

catfood (40112) | about a year ago | (#44796771)

Try to keep up. Feminist blogs were full of criticism of that performance. I realize that ruins your little rant and your fantasy of persecution, but there it is.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796811)

Not the GP poster but, what hetero male is reading feminist blogs?

Re:Should have done it on MTV (5, Insightful)

catfood (40112) | about a year ago | (#44796843)

If he wants to make the statement that feminists were all cool with the Cyrus performance, he should check and do his damn research first. Knowing what you are talking about is important.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (4, Funny)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44796861)

Knowing what you are talking about is important.

You must be new here.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (1)

macbeth66 (204889) | about a year ago | (#44797063)

Knowing what you are talking about is important

Since when? Certainly not on slashdot.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (5, Interesting)

QilessQi (2044624) | about a year ago | (#44796975)

Me. And a number of my married male friends.

Supporting feminism has nothing to do with your gender or sexual preference. It's about recognizing that women are still not treated with equal regard and respect in certain spheres -- the tech sphere being one of them.

If you support the rights and reproductive freedoms of your sisters, daughters, female friends, girlfriends, wife, and mother, then you might find interesting news and political writing on feminist blogs. If you're unconcerned about these issues but are curious about why so many women are angry at the treatment they get in society, you might want to read a few of those blogs to get an idea.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (1)

thewolfkin (2790519) | about a year ago | (#44796835)

Try to keep up. Feminist blogs were full of criticism of that performance. I realize that ruins your little rant and your fantasy of persecution, but there it is.

interesting.. not watching or caring about the VMAs I'm one of the few people who hasn't actually seen it. It never occurred to me to consider a feminist perspective on the incident. I generally don't seek feminist articles, I just read the ones recommended to me. But this is intriguing. Maybe i'll look it up

Re:Should have done it on MTV (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796893)

Extreme levels of beta-male detected.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796939)

But no one actually cares about feminist blogs. This is /. FFS.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797041)

Try to keep up. Feminist blogs were full of criticism of that performance.

And there were others decrying anyone complaining about the performance as "slut shaming."

Which is a great new thing in feminist circles, where anyone who calls out a woman for acting provocatively is bad, and anyone who shows any form of interest in a woman who's acting provocatively is also bad. Because it's clear that as far as feminists are concerned, if a man does it, it's wrong.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796757)

So it's wrong for a guy to talk about "taking a picture of yourself staring at tits" and to simulate masturbation in public, but it's perfectly all right for Miley Cyrus to do the same (and more!) on national television in front of millions of people? I guess they should have done it on MTV; then it would have been ok.

Right, because there has been no public outcry about Miley Cyrus. And also because if someone else behaves abominably, we all should be able to.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (1)

sosume (680416) | about a year ago | (#44796829)

Showing how reproduction works is 'behaving abominably'. But it's ok to present graphic violence as 'entertainment'.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (4, Insightful)

Lasrick (2629253) | about a year ago | (#44796901)

Jesus. Why do you change the subject? Did I or anyone say it's okay to present graphic violence as entertainment? You are deflecting from discussion about what these two grown men did at a professional conference, which many people attended for the technical information. When you buy a ticket to a movie or a performance, you have a general idea of what you are going to get. If you want to see gratuitous sex and/or violence, you may choose to do so. And others may choose not to. When at a professional conference, the intent is altogether different. People are there for a variety of reasons, and having these men push their sexist, misogynist agenda on them is wrong.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796775)

Get out of your echochamber and you'll see that nobody thinks what Miley Cyrus was appropriate or mature either. Here's an example [google.com] .

Re:Should have done it on MTV (1)

thewolfkin (2790519) | about a year ago | (#44796859)

So it's wrong for a guy to talk about "taking a picture of yourself staring at tits" and to simulate masturbation in public, but it's perfectly all right for Miley Cyrus to do the same (and more!) on national television in front of millions of people? I guess they should have done it on MTV; then it would have been ok.

Get out of your echochamber and you'll see that nobody thinks what Miley Cyrus was appropriate or mature either. Here's an example [google.com] .

To be fair the appropriation argument is centred on the racial implications of the incident not the gendered ones.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (1, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44796795)

Interesting equating you have going on there.

Miley Cyrus is well known for gyrating in from of millions of viewers at conferences.

You also have the nice piece of logic "well someone else did something bad so this bad thing is ok too".

Re:Should have done it on MTV (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796819)

No, it wasn't ok, that's why there was widespread outrage. Where have you been?

All about context (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796883)

While I don't approve of either act, there's a difference for what an entertainer does onstage and what happens in a supposedly "professional" environment.

Entertainers do crazy stuff onstage for attention all the time. This is the industry that gave us Lady Gaga and Kylie Minogue, and introduced the term "wardrobe malfunction." It's a show. It's designed to provoke, and entertain. If you're not into it, don't watch MTV (I don't understand why anyone would have in the last 10 years, but there I go being old again).

A professional technology conference is not an entertainment venue. It's for serious business. Sure, you can inject humor into a presentation or two to make people smile and keep it light. But it's not a venue for shock or "look at me!" attention grabbing. It's where we as an industry come together to share our knowledge with each other. It's where we showcase the best of what being in technology is.

So to inject something fairly deliberately offensive into that environment reflects on the industry. And not just the presenters. It's everyone who didn't walk out. Who laughed. Who applauded at the end. They, more than the presenters, are the problem.

If you're in the industry, you can't "opt out" of going to events like this without hurting yourself professionally. Unlike pure entertainment, it shouldn't be incumbent on the audience to "just don't come if you're offended" in CASE something like this is presented. Either this is who we are as a technology industry, or it's not.

Re:Should have done it on MTV (5, Insightful)

djlemma (1053860) | about a year ago | (#44796907)

What, exactly, makes you think that people consider Miley Cyrus' behavior to be "perfectly all right"? Seems like the overwhelming reaction to her performance was one of disgust.

Crouch before our Ayatollahs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796735)

Blood and gore are one thing. Now TITs... how could you?

Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796739)

Although I do believe that overt sexism is a real problem, I think this particular case (as well as many others) is more an example of immaturity. We would not accuse a 10 year old of being "sexist" because he repeats dumb sex jokes to his friends at school, but we DO expect that 10 year old to learn what is appropriate and when. Unfortunately since tech companies overwhelmingly rely on young males as both developers and customers, it tends to amplify and support the worst qualities of that demographic.

Re:Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (1)

somersault (912633) | about a year ago | (#44796791)

Unfortunately since tech companies overwhelmingly rely on young males as both developers and customers, it tends to amplify and support the worst qualities of that demographic.

A lot of girls stare at boobs too you know..

Re:Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796885)

A lot of girls grab each others boobs while naked in the shower, too*. But somehow I don't think I could get away with that. (* If life outside is anything like the anime I've seen).

Re:Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (1)

somersault (912633) | about a year ago | (#44797011)

Considering you'd already have to be showering naked with the girl, I'm faiiiiiiirly sure that you could get away with it by that point ;)

Re:Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (4, Insightful)

catfood (40112) | about a year ago | (#44796805)

Giving a 24-year-old man and a 28-year-old man free passes on creepy behavior you might gently correct in a 10-year-old boy? Yeah, that's pretty sexist.

If you're going to give a presentation at a tech conference, yes, a certain level of maturity is required. Letting that go because "boys will be boys" is privileged bullshit.

Re:Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797029)

How is that giving a free pass? Saying they were not sexists but immature is not an excuse, just an argument that people are misjudging the intent and motivation. The guys should still face the consequences of being idiots, and should know better.

You could have some employee call an unruly customer a bitch to her face, but later call some male customer an asshole. He might not have any issues with women in particular, but you probably still would fire him for being unprofessional.

Re:Immaturity, not necessarily sexism. (1)

macbeth66 (204889) | about a year ago | (#44797189)

We would not accuse a 10 year old of being "sexist" because he repeats dumb sex jokes to his friends

Yeah, we would. It is sexism. And we are supposed to teach the immature, regardless of age, that they are being sexist and is wrong.

So, kid, what was this joke you heard?

It's not about the 9-year-old girl (4, Insightful)

catfood (40112) | about a year ago | (#44796751)

It would have been just as sexist without her there.

Re: (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796817)

Yes, women need a dickstare app for balance.

Re: (5, Funny)

clickety6 (141178) | about a year ago | (#44797035)

Yes, women need a dickstare app for balance.
By all accounts, the whole audience was staring at two of them...

Sexist, or just stupid? (2, Insightful)

guytoronto (956941) | about a year ago | (#44796763)

I'm not sure this is sexist. I see it as just plain stupid to present something like this to a conference. It's two young programmers who didn't really think things through.

Re:Sexist, or just stupid? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797057)

I'm not sure this is sexist.

That's indicative of the whole problem here. Yes, this is exactly what sexism is: "behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex" (from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexism). It is *also* an example of a stupid thing to present. They aren't mutually exclusive.

The drive to describe it as something other than sexism, when it is a perfect example of sexism, seems the root problem to me. You won't create an environment that isn't sexist by accident: you must acknowledge it when you see it. And, unlike stupidity, it is actually possible to eliminate it once you see it.

The industry's usual response: (0)

AbigailBuccaneer (3053535) | about a year ago | (#44796767)

Whenever any instance of misogyny is usually reported in the tech industry, the usual thing to happen is that the woman gets vilified and constantly harassed via social media. Fortunately, I can't quite imagine that happening to the nine-year-old girl in the audience.

Re:The industry's usual response: (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#44796809)

Fortunately, I can't quite imagine that happening to the nine-year-old girl in the audience.

Anonymous people on the internet are more than capable of such douchebaggery.

Re:The industry's usual response: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796875)

Quit whining. Just marry some rich dude and divorce him a few years later. You'll be set for life.

Unlike you, I'm not sitting on a fortune.

Silicon Valley Culture (2)

EMG at MU (1194965) | about a year ago | (#44796801)

About two weeks ago we had this story Silicon Valleys Loony Cheerleading Culture is Out Of Control [slashdot.org] .

Titstare just seems like a satire on the completely pointless app genre that seems to be the new popular thing to do if you are a young hip coder looking to score big in the new social/app bubble we are in.

Didn't Facebook start as a way to rank girl's appearance at Harvard? Who's to fault these guys, they could be the next Zuckerberg. Titstare is (however tongue-in-cheek) indicative of the trend of creating valueless apps and hyping them up to billion dollar status and then selling to the highest bidder trying to reinvigorate their failing business. (example: AOL/MySpace/HuffPost).

Re:Silicon Valley Culture (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | about a year ago | (#44796845)

Who's to fault these guys, they could be the next Zuckerberg.

*shivers*

yeah USA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796823)

where it would have been ok if the app was called splatstare, making pictures of yourself while shooting someones face off.

Irony? (4, Funny)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44796833)

Submitted by beaverdownunder Perhaps!

Please just get over it! (5, Insightful)

Pikoro (844299) | about a year ago | (#44796847)

Women have boobs. People jerk off. Stop trying to hide obvious human sexuality issues from everyone. EVERYONE does this stuff. Why hide it? This puritan crap needs to go away.

Re:Please just get over it! (1)

King_TJ (85913) | about a year ago | (#44796891)

I'm with you on this .... but at the same time, since "EVERYONE does this stuff", why keep trying to make it into a bigger deal than it really is with such things as lame smartphone apps featuring or simulating the behaviors?

Re:Please just get over it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796955)

Think of the children!!

This is one reason why (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796851)

we need more women in the technology sector. This kind of display often surfaces when large groups of people that are 80-100 percent male gather together to celebrate and get 'faced. Then you start to realize that that mentality is still there during working hours, just somewhat muted.

Stupidity != sexism (4, Insightful)

hsmith (818216) | about a year ago | (#44796869)

Breaking news: men are fascinated with breasts. It is pretty much universal and isn't sexist.

Obviosuly their display in front of children was uncalled for.

But something to do with gender doesn't mean it is sexist. It is killing what true sexism is, real discrimination.

About the 9 year old girl (4, Informative)

schneidafunk (795759) | about a year ago | (#44796871)

Here is her story and app [techcrunch.com] .

Warning GOATSE.CX re-direct link!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796969)

If you thought that link looked suspicious, your instincts are right. You will quickly find yourself looking at disgusting and sexist photos if you click on the link.

I still don't get the prduct (1)

thewolfkin (2790519) | about a year ago | (#44796895)

I don't get it 'take photos of yourself, looking at tits' so someone else hold your phone and snaps a pic of you when you stare at boobs of the girl across the street? How is that different from an app? or how would they app that concept?

Re:I still don't get the prduct (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796999)

It's actually possible to take pics of yourself without someone else holding your phone.

I know, technology nowadays..

They Know It's Sexism (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796919)

These guys aren't retarded, they know it's sexism.
It's supposed to be funny. Laugh.
Seriously, why is everybody always crying like a baby when things aren't 100% polically correct.
Go live on an island with other stuck-up people that can't handle life.

Some people (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44796933)

have no sense of humor.

"forced to apologize" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797001)

Anybody else catch this? Where I come from, forced apologies aren't apologies.

Circle Shake looks okay, not sexist at all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44797017)

Great technology, it is very Freudian to think this is simulated masturbation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYxP0LDEsV0

Maybe the people that complained should look at themselves.

Sadly, they're looking at symptoms. (5, Insightful)

intermodal (534361) | about a year ago | (#44797087)

The real problem is that we have reached the point where the puritanical values have caused men's reactions to breasts to become national news, and to where breastfeeding mothers are made to feel they are doing something shameful.

Stupid, stupid Americans. I doubt the Aussies even considered America's hypersensitivity in the process.

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