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Instagram Rolls Out Plan For In-Feed Advertisments

Unknown Lamer posted about a year ago | from the imagemagick-to-remain-ad-free dept.

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New submitter cagraham writes "The currently ad-free Instagram has announced a plan to monetize its services by selling premium placement to brands. 35 year old Emily White is in charge of making Instagram profitable, according to the Wall Street Journal. The move shows the new priorities of parent-company Facebook, who now has to worry about appeasing shareholders, as well as fending off rivals such as Twitter. Whether Instagram's young and growing user base will balk at the ads, or even notice them, remains to be seen."

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I think it is necessary (3, Interesting)

xevioso (598654) | about a year ago | (#44803903)

It's necessary for the internet to grow and evolve. As soon as they start putting ads on Instagram, on devices that don't have much real estate to begin with, people will start flocking to new and upcoming apps or websites that do something similar, but slightly different, and with no ads. Then eventually a lagre company will buy said app, once the user base trends huge, and they will try to figure out how to monetize the new app. This is how the internet works.

Re:I think it is necessary (5, Insightful)

DogDude (805747) | about a year ago | (#44804235)

No, the Internet used to be ad-free. People used to use the Internet to learn things, and to share information with other people. Until the unwashed massed got to it in the mid 90's, the Internet was wonderful: Email, Gopher, WWW, FTP, etc.

In fact, those bits of the Internet are still there, but they've been overwhelmed and vastly out-numbered by people more interested in money than being an intelligent, compassionate human being.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#44804331)

Ugh, that sounds educational. No way it will catch on.

Re:I think it is necessary (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year ago | (#44804833)

Ugh, that sounds educational. No way it will catch on.

As cynical as you sound, it's taken me a long time to come to terms with the fact that most other people don't have the same sense of joy in learning for learning's sake. The thirst for self-improvement.

I still don't entirely understand a world like that, and am glad that not everyone is that way.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804883)

As cynical as you sound, it's taken me a long time to come to terms with the fact that most other people don't have the same sense of joy in learning for learning's sake. The thirst for self-improvement.

I still don't entirely understand a world like that, and am glad that not everyone is that way.

Ignore is strength.

Re:I think it is necessary (3, Funny)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year ago | (#44807379)

Ignore is strength.

There is something profound here, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805833)

One of the greats in the sports world started teaching, and was known for a quote that I can't find right now, but was basically, "it took me a year of teaching to realize that not everyone wants to be world champion."

Some people just want to share pictures of cats and drink beer and have a good time.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805031)

Fuck knowledge, give the people the Caturday they demand.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805683)

I tend to disagree on this one. I was there back in the day: the WWW was a lonely place filled with homepages that did not convey any useful information, Gopher was a commercial project (hence the reason why it failed), and the communities on Usenet were just as rude as most web fora nowadays.
Protocols were insecure and didn't scale well (local BBS'es and freenets were constantly occupied, Usenet lacked structure and moderation to facilitate large community discussions, etc.)
The internet has changed, and largely for the better. I don't miss the days when the Internet was an obscure little research network.

Re:I think it is necessary (2)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year ago | (#44806731)

I tend to disagree on this one. I was there back in the day: the WWW was a lonely place filled with homepages that did not convey any useful information, Gopher was a commercial project (hence the reason why it failed), and the communities on Usenet were just as rude as most web fora nowadays.

Protocols were insecure and didn't scale well (local BBS'es and freenets were constantly occupied, Usenet lacked structure and moderation to facilitate large community discussions, etc.)

The internet has changed, and largely for the better. I don't miss the days when the Internet was an obscure little research network.

However, in the days before the internet was so commercialized, the govt largely stayed out of it and out of the way. We now have the govt passing laws trying to keep up the old ways and end up hindering progress, in order to protect commerce on the internet.

I think that the vast commercialization was what opened the door to the world govts trying to interfere and control the internet.

Also, the basic idea behind the internet, that any computer could hook onto the network and become a peer with all other computers is becoming largely lost in the great shuffle of 'progress'. I remember when my TOS for ISP was very simple (essentially don't do anything illegal), but there were no ports blocked, you could run servers (I cut my teeth a bit back in those days, trying to learn apache, postfix/sendmail,mixmaster, etc) on your home network and no one got pissed off that you were doing this.

But now, the providers and govt. continue to squeeze these freedoms and ideals the internet early on had in abundance, and are trying to limit and redefine what you connection is or should be.

I don't doubt that sadly, in the not far enough away future, that you will have to have some soft of govt issued ID just to connect, and likely you will have less and less control over your computer, and of course...more monitoring.

This will be all in the name of:

1. Think of the children

2. Security from the terrorists

3. The need to protect the online revenue generators.

We see this already today. Heck, the first two alone give them the "keys to the Constitution" here in the US, which opens the flood gates to even more anti-user freedom legislation.

Re:I think it is necessary (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | about a year ago | (#44807043)

I tend to disagree on this one. I was there back in the day: the WWW was a lonely place filled with homepages that did not convey any useful information, Gopher was a commercial project (hence the reason why it failed), and the communities on Usenet were just as rude as most web fora nowadays.

I have some very, *very* major concerns about the modern Internet and our reliance on it colliding with its increasing potential to turn into a virtual panopticon. Yet, purely considering things in terms of content, I think it's too easy to over-idealise the old days.

I first used the Internet in late-1993, which is just about the point it was starting to cross over into mainstream consciousness, but when most of the old stuff was still in place (*). I remember how new and cool it seemed then, like "I can talk to people all over the world on this thing?!"

But to be honest, by modern standards there really wasn't a lot there. The fact that in the early days of the web people could maintain lists of "useful links" without this looking laughably inadequate illustrates this point.

Even just ten years ago (i.e. 2003) there was a lot less online. Sure, the net- and web- had grown a *lot* since its early 90s breakthrough and we'd already had the dotcom boom and bust. However, I was revising for my university finals at the time, and I clearly remember noting (with some surprise) that despite its apparent breadth of info, it was still hard to *find* and get *clear* "all-in-one-place" descriptions of the subjects I was looking up online. Information was still scattered, hard work to find- especially at the right level- and bitty. The books in the adjacent library were still far better resources in this respect.

Ironically, that's also the time I first came across what is now probably my most-used site, Wikipedia. Except that back then, it wasn't remotely as massive- nor hence as useful- as it is today. I don't remember that much about it (**), but ironically that probably says enough- if it had been even half as large as today's WP it would have stuck in my head immediately as the aforementioned "killer resource" that didn't exist back then.

(*) i.e. My first real use of it was Usenet, which back then was still a- or rather, *the*- forum for discussions, and I didn't use the web for the first time until several months later. The BBS I used was still text-based and accessed via telnet. Even the "guide to the net" I bought discussed gopher more than the web (though I never really used gopher much, and don't remember being too impressed with it).

(**) I vaguely remember thinking "Is that right? Can *anyone* edit this thing?!", but I wouldn't have had the time to do that, and I had other things to worry about. I didn't really notice it until about two years later, when it was starting to really grow and I had too much time to spend editing it. :-/

Re:I think it is necessary (1)

trawg (308495) | about a year ago | (#44806575)

No, the Internet used to be ad-free. People used to use the Internet to learn things, and to share information with other people. Until the unwashed massed got to it in the mid 90's, the Internet was wonderful: Email, Gopher, WWW, FTP, etc.

It used to be ad-free because the cost of running those services was trivial and handled by educational and research institutions.

Now the number of services has multiplied (by a lot), both to cater to a wider variety of experiences and a larger number of people.

The cost of running those services has multiplied (by a lot) - no longer just a few kilobytes of plain text, they are rich multimedia experiences including, in many cases gigabytes of high definition video.

I too remember the good old days of the "wonderful" 90s Internet of using lynx to look at web pages and figuring out Trumpet so I could get Mosaic going to look at images. It was fun and exciting and great. But when I compare it to what is possible now - in many cases, completely for free if I'm prepared to sacrifice a tiny part of my attention and privacy (both of which I am conscious of and careful to manage) - well, I'm pretty amazed and what is on offer.

Any time you want to put your hand up to be one of those intelligent, compassionate human beings and provide ad-free wonderful services - please let me know because I'll happily sign up to take advantage of them!

Re:I think it is necessary (2)

jimbolauski (882977) | about a year ago | (#44806777)

No, the Internet used to be ad-free.

If you recall that was when the internet was subsidized an only available to very few. So instead of paying for the services that a few people can utilize with money the government confiscated from people it is now paid for by companies trying to sell a product and available to everyone.

People used to use the Internet to learn things, and to share information with other people. Until the unwashed massed got to it in the mid 90's, the Internet was wonderful: Email, Gopher, WWW, FTP, etc.

People still use the internet to learn things and share information, now they can also use it to make money. Further even before the "unclean masses" had the internet there were games and many other noneducational things happening on BBSs, I can remember going to my dad's work on the weekends and playing Bolo, a multiplayer tank strategy game, in the late 80's.

In fact, those bits of the Internet are still there, but they've been overwhelmed and vastly out-numbered by people more interested in money than being an intelligent, compassionate human being.

You must not be looking in the right spots there are vast collections of knowledge still out there, the amount of crap has gone up but so has the amount of knowledge available, college courses, instructional videos on how repair and make almost anything, published research papers. It's ashame you think only the elite few should be allowed on the internet thus significantly limiting the amount of people that can reach that knowledge so it can stay "pure". Having a tool where just about everyone is able to reach this vast well of knowledge is well worth the make you penis larger spam, and all the other crap out there.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804295)

I use Instagram, and I like it. Not sure what I think about this though.

I mean, they already collect all kinds of personal information for who knows what. Isn't that enough? Also, Twitter will now be in a stronger position. What they really need is an option to pay. I wish all obnoxious websites had a "make me nice, pay here" option. That would give people some much-needed options.

Disclaimer: I own three shares of Instagram stock. Three of my friends work for the company. I check my FB every hour. I worked in the construction crew which renovated their office. I'm a complete and utter shill. Also, I was fucked in the ass by a goat yesterday.

Re:I think it is necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804793)

It's necessary for the internet to grow and evolve. As soon as they start putting ads on Instagram, on devices that don't have much real estate to begin with, people will start flocking to new and upcoming apps or websites that do something similar, but slightly different, and with no ads. Then eventually a lagre company will buy said app, once the user base trends huge, and they will try to figure out how to monetize the new app.

This is how the internet works.

So every time a web site or app starts showing ads, people stop using it? How is Google still in business? How is Slashdot still in business?

Re:I think it is necessary (2)

xenobyte (446878) | about a year ago | (#44806477)

So every time a web site or app starts showing ads, people stop using it? How is Google still in business? How is Slashdot still in business?

Ad-blockers? - They make the experience tolerable and allows the visitors to focus on the subject matter, not some noisy, bouncing, obscuring- or attention-grabbing ad for something nobody really needs.

Using good ad-blockers helps keep the Internet almost completely ad free, the way it should be.

I fully agree, but (1)

e70838 (976799) | about a year ago | (#44809283)

keep ad block a geek secret (tongue in cheek) so that other people can continue to pay for us by watching ads.

BEST AdBlocker (& FAR more)? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44810475)

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Re:lagre (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805309)

Ha

The Finer Points of Cunnilingus (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44803909)

Many women prefer oral sex to intercourse, because it has the potential to give them exceptional orgasms. And for those of you who need loads of direct clit contact to get off, mouth-to-clit stimulation is one of the easiest, most enjoyable ways to get make that happen. Unfortunately, for many gals, like Carol here, her man’s oral skills simply aren’t up to the task.

“I like oral sex, but my new BF doesn’t know what he’s doing down there. He’s really sweet and I like him a lot. Unfortunately, he thinks he this really great lover when actually he sucksand not in a good way. I know he reads your column, he was the one that turned me on to your site, so could you give him some pointers on how to orally pleasure a woman? He doesn’t listen to me.”

Now, despite being a big fat homo, I am regularly quizzed on the art of muff diving. I’m always happy to oblige, but I’m bound to say that everything I know about cunnilingus I’ve learned from my lesbian friends. Instead of me—who has no pussy—pontificating on the joys of orally pleasuring a woman, I turn to my #1 friend of the lesbian persuasion, Joy. Not only does she have her very own pussy, she also knows her way around other pussies as well.

I shared Carol’s letter with her, and asked for her thoughts. I figure, if you wanna learn how to do something right, ya talk to a pro. Simply put, no one sucks cock as good as a queer; no one gobbles clam like a dyke. Enough said! Joy’s first comment wasand I quote, “What’s this chick doin’ with a dude? If she wants good head, she should bed a dyke. Once you go lezzie, you never go back.” Ahhh, Joy is such a joy!

Okay, so giving oral is about the most perfect sexual thing you can do for a woman. It makes her feel special. What woman doesn’t groove on knowin’ her partner finds her finger-lickin’ good? And maybe that’s a good place to start this tutorial. If you don’t like the taste or smell of pussy, give up on the idea that you’ll be a fabulous lover. However, if you want to give this whole muff diving thing a try, but you don’t know if you can handle the flavor or aroma, or if your chick’s unsure about you being down there, thinking she might be unsavory; you could start off by showering or bathing together.

The novice pussy lapper would do well to approach this amazing piece of human anatomy very gentlyat first. If the woman you’re eatin’ out wants more vigorous attention, she will ask for it. So relax and enjoy! (Note: If all this licking and sucking isn’t a turn on for you, it won’t be much of a pleasure for your partner, either. So, if your heart’s not in it, you will have to find other ways to please her.)

Don’t make the mistake that Carol’s boyfriend makes. Listen to the feedback you’re getting on the job you’re doing. If you’re not getting any, ask for it. (Just don’t talk with your mouth full.) Once you hit on something that works for your gal, stick with it for a while—unless of course, you’re trying to drive her wild with some tongue teasing.

Joy says that the biggest no-no in pussy divin’ is divin’ in without knowing your way around. Like I always say, ladies, it’s completely up to you to introduce your partner to your particular pussy. Remember: Just because he’s been with other women, don’t make him an expert on your parts. Get it? Got it? GOOD!

Finding just the right position will eliminate the fatigue factor and neck strain. Have her lie across the bed (or the sofa, kitchen table, whatnot shelf) with her ass situated just at the edge. With her legs apart, knees up and her feet resting on the edge of the bed/table/whatever, take a comfortable position on the floor between her legs. Here’s a tip: The more muscle control she has to exert to maintain her position and balance will often lead to a stronger, more pleasurable and intense orgasm, because a thunderous orgasm is all about muscle tension.

Joy insists that a soft tongue and a relaxed jaw work best. And holy cow, she knows of what she speaks. She always starts out licking her pal from vaginal entrance up to her clit. She follows the outer edges of her pussy along both sides. Slowly at first, then more rapidly. Sometimes she’ll even throw in some raspberries. (You know, the vibrating sound you make when you force breath through lightly closed lips.) Joy stands by this technique, don’t cha know! Sounds like so much fun, I kinda’ wish I had me a cunt.

Don’t let your hands be idle when you’re yodeling up the valley. Gently press the two outer vaginal lips together, then run your tongue between the inner and outer labia one side at a time. Try poking your tongue into her vagina. The majority of a woman’s vaginal nerve endings are around the opening and within the first couple of inner inches. Target them with a darting tongue motion. Insert a hardened tongue into her hole. Try moving your tongue in and out, as well as in circles around the inside of her opening.

Spread her outer vaginal lips with your fingers. With your tongue pointed, gently flick your tongue around her clit. Feel free to roam around in there, but keep coming back to her clit, because it is the most sensitive area—just like your dick head, you dickhead! Be careful though: some women find the direct approach too intense. If this is the case with your woman, blow a stream of warm breath over and around the clit. This lighter, breathy touch might do the trick.

Keep your tongue and hands busy flicking and massaging, poking and prodding lapping and kneading. In other words, find out what she likes and how she likes it, and let her have it just that way. Again, be sure to ask for feedback—and then do precisely what she says.

Once your partner is good and hot and juicy wet, Joy suggests you kick things up a notch. Spread her lips, expose her clit and give it a quick little suck. If this hits the spot, you might want to lightly pull back her clitoral hood and repeat the quick sucking motion. Joy assures me that this feels incredible, and it’s just the thing to do if you feel like driving your partner crazy with ecstasy. Now take her exposed clit into your mouth and gently suck on it, simultaneously flicking your tongue over and around it. This combined with fingering her hole will usually produce a stunning orgasm.

Finally, Joy suggests you surprise the little woman by having a sugar-free mint or an ice chip in your mouth while you eat her out. These can create a very intense tingling sensation and will enhance your performance—and her pleasure—immeasurably.

Good luck!

Re:The Finer Points of Cunnilingus (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804029)

Excellent advice, thanks for posting!

George Zimmerman Rolled out a Plan to Threaten... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44803913)

George Zimmerman rolled out a plan to threaten his ex-wife and her father with a gun.

That poor woman called 911 scared for her life, when that violent creep George Zimmerman threatened her and her father with a gun. You can hear the terror in the 911 call.

She knows that George Zimmerman chased down and killed Trayvon Martin, and is now threatening her and her family with a gun.

"Come closer. Come closer." he said today.

I wonder if George Zimmerman told Trayvon Martin to "come closer" as he chased down and killed him.

Damm. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44803925)

Is there anything advertisers can't turn to shit?

Re:Damm. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804187)

Is there anything advertisers can't turn to shit?

Things that aren't supported by advertising?

Whoops.... (4, Funny)

Lordfly (590616) | about a year ago | (#44803945)

My finger slipped. Instead of clicking on the "premium ad experience" I accidentally uninstalled Instagram from my phone.

Damn those fat fingers.

Re:Whoops (-1, Troll)

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Re:Whoops (1)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year ago | (#44807391)

Looks like Slashdot is rolling out its plan for in-comment advertisements!

Re:Whoops.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805405)

Let's see, odds are you have an Android phone, so it really doesn't matter whether you've uninstalled Instagram. If you use any of the free apps, you're looking at ads. Aside from allowing Google to track your every move, both on the net and in real life, that's the whole point of Android... The ads might look smaller but I'm sure they make more money for Google, since everyone knows if you're paying for a Smartphone, you have more expendable income, right?

Just wait 'til wearable computing turns you into a walking billboard by embedding some sort of projection device on your body. I can see it know. Little tiny holographic projections hovering over your watch every time your sleeve slides up your arm revealing your wrist.

What gets me is the fact that you pay for the bandwidth that allows Google, et al, to deliver ads that other people place on your phone/computer. And seemingly there's nothing to be done about it because ISPs treat you, your bandwidth and your hardware as their own personal property. Who would have thought that software licensing would have had such a profoundly communistic impact on a business ecosystem. Everyone pays for advertisers and ISPs to use their system to create wealth for the few; it's just like Animal Farm.

Re:Whoops.... (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#44807519)

What ads? [bigtincan.com] I don't know what you're talking about. [adblockplus.org]

Of course, my device is rooted - and I claim it's irresponsible for carriers to try to prevent users from doing such.

Adblock, Ghostery, & Request Policy = (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44811977)

INFERIOR: Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (that slow up already slower ring 3/rpl 3 browsers) as a filter for the IP stack (coded in C & load w/ OS + 1st net request & 1st resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

---

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 [start64.com]

(Details + benefits hosts files provide on numerous levels for speed, security, reliability, & anonymity = in link above)

---

A.) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 GOOGLE, crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Foxes guarding the henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775 [slashdot.org]

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed DNS & protect vs redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious hosts also -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 [slashdot.org] w/ less added "moving parts" room for breakdown, complexity,

C.) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes favs - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish links), reliability (vs. downed DNS or vs. Kaminsky vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

---

("Less is more" = GOOD engineering - instead of slowing down already SLOWER usermode apps in browsers etc., by laying on MORE in browser addons which are known to slow them down more? I work with what you already have in ring 0/rpl 0/kernelmode, via hosts: A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself!).

* Hosts work on ANDROID (ADB pull command).

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

...apk

Can anything be immune from ads? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804053)

Why must everything be constantly monetized?

I would love to see a social gathering site whereby people pay a small annual fee and get no ads, no tracking, no analytics, nothing but people socializing.

Re:Can anything be immune from ads? (3, Interesting)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about a year ago | (#44804201)

Why must everything be constantly monetized?

I would love to see a social gathering site whereby people pay a small annual fee


...or, to put it another way, people 'monetize it.'

Re:Can anything be immune from ads? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805519)

Because capitalism.

Seriously, this is the result of a capitalist economy, love it or hate it. With a libertarian in every office, this is what you can look forward to.

Some people don't understand that some aspects of our daily activities should not be the subject of ownership or monetization because it is destructive to the species. Some aspects should because it is beneficial.

Re:Can anything be immune from ads? (1)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year ago | (#44807407)

I wish the government would provide all the social networks for the people, free of charge!

Re:Can anything be immune from ads? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804211)

Why must everything be constantly monetized?

I would love to see a social gathering site whereby people pay a small annual fee and get no ads, no tracking, no analytics, nothing but people socializing.

Plenty of those available if you walk away from the keyboard.

Re:Can anything be immune from ads? (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year ago | (#44804847)

I would love to see a social gathering site

Yeah, but you wouldn't pay for it. That's the problem.

In any case, those places still exist. Try logging on to FICS, or one of the newsgroups still around.

Re: Can anything be immune from ads? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44813773)

Wikipedia... But they are in a unique situation where their existence depends on being independent of corporate funding that would mean slanted information. Other sites could try their fundraising techniques, but it probably wouldn't work as well.

Also, lots of donate button services were started a few years ago, but I haven't seen any of them on any sites in recent memory.

- zeusstl

Why is age relevant? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804085)

Why does this summary mention Emily White’s age? What possibile relevance could that have to the story? Is there something implicit in her age that means she’ll do a better or worse job than someone of a different age?

In the context of the article it might be slightly useful as an index to point out how generally young the company is, with a 35 year old COO. But why tell us in the summary? Why not something *informative* like “director of business operations” or “chief executive officer”? And don’t give me some anarthrous occupational nominal premodifier bullshit.

Summary author: C–. See me after class.

Re:Why is age relevant? (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year ago | (#44804373)

Maybe it was meant to imply that, since the average age of instagram users is in the low 2-digits, this decision, and the person making it, are out of touch with their "market?"

Nah, damn kids are the worst at sucking down marketing drek... Even my lawn is getting popups now.

Made me click to see if she was hot (1)

swb (14022) | about a year ago | (#44804451)

I figure anybody that far up the corporate ladder at age 35 must be at least pretty.

Re:Made me click to see if she was hot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804977)

People in that new article are above average looking almost like characters in a movie.

Re:Why is age relevant? (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | about a year ago | (#44807245)

I'm close to her age although we might as well be on different planets when it comes to our roles within our respective companies. I can't even comprehend how someone my age could rise to such a high executive level. The only career path I've seen like hers requires growing up in an affluent neighborhood where connections and opportunities are plentiful. It leads to an impressive resume because they got to land jobs no one else would have ever gotten on merit alone. I'm not suggesting she isn't talented, but in that world it's incidental more than a requirement. And when you're dealing with start up culture where youth is irrationally overvalued then it makes opportunities even easier to come by for these people.

I will add that given my experience no way in hell would I ever want to work for her. Nearly every single manager under 40 I've ever had to work with is awful. They're impulsive, emotional and incredibly inefficient. They love to talk about kinship, being a part of a community, to the point that it almost sounds socialist, but then they're some of the most exploitative bastards I've ever dealt with. They'd hire only unpaid interns if they could. They expect workers to put in brutal hours and show little regard for personal time. And they tend to be vicious when they don't get what they want. And they're happy to take all the credit for the hard work of the people beneath them. These are the individuals you see everyone gush over at conferences who talk like they've done everything on their own.

It's basically all the worst qualities of start up culture.

xkcd - Instagram (3, Insightful)

tokiko (560961) | about a year ago | (#44804117)

Re:xkcd - Instagram (1)

relyimah (938927) | about a year ago | (#44804203)

Perfect! While I always hate to see ads on things, is it REALLY that hard to scroll past an ad here and there? I mean nobody is forcing you to click on it... What I hate are the ad banners on phones that are designed for you to accidentally click on them... Like they put them right next to the controls, or a menu...

Re:xkcd - Instagram (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804343)

While I always hate to see shit on things, is it REALLY that hard to stroll past a shit here and there? I mean nobody is forcing you to step on it...

I don't like ads, and I'll block them. I don't care how easy you think ignoring them is, I find them annoying and disgusting and will go through the extra five or so clicks it takes to block them forever. If that makes even one damn marketing droid lose money, even better. The web used to work fine before it was full of ads everywhere, it clearly does not need ads thank you very much.

Re:xkcd - Instagram (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about a year ago | (#44804703)

The web used to work fine before it was full of ads everywhere

So in your model how does a site like YouTube work? Is the tremendous bandwidth and storage funded exclusively by subscriptions?

Re:xkcd - Instagram (2)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | about a year ago | (#44805393)

So in your model how does a site like YouTube work?

Why should a site like YouTube be needed? If everyone had to host their own video content, perhaps we'd have come to useful video standards long ago? Certainly having the majority of on-line content in one place is useful for the copyright cartel, but what does it do for the rest of us?

The other alternative would be to have ads, but not have them fill up every available space. If ads were rare and tasteful, say a single simpIe text link on each page, I wouldn't need Adblock Plus. Heck, if in addition to that they didn't track people, I might even click on one once in a while.

Instead they're so common and obnoxious that the web is useless without ad blockers. And in 20 years of using the web (holy shit -- yes, I wrote my first HTML in 1993), I can count on my fingers the number of ads I've clicked.

Re:xkcd - Instagram (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about a year ago | (#44807367)

what does it do for the rest of us?

- Allows the Khan Academy to share videos which educate the world for free.

- Allows Grandma to watch videos of her grandkids from hundreds of miles away without effort, and allows me to upload those videos without effort.

...to name but two. I know ads drive the Slashdot batshit bananas crazy, but f*ck, get over it. How does a 10 second ad for a Chevy ruin your life?

Re:xkcd - Instagram (1)

amaurea (2900163) | about a year ago | (#44805673)

That's a good question. I think, in theory, that a distributed solution could handle it. You would need a distributed peer-to-peer protocol which also handles storage and discovery. The actual data transfer could be done though something like bittorrent, but with blocks downloaded chronologically.

Services like gnutella, e-donkey etc. actually do something relatively similar to youtube when you think of it.

Re:xkcd - Instagram (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44806449)

The web used to work fine before it was full of ads everywhere

So in your model how does a site like YouTube work?

I expect you to die, Mr. Bond.

Re:xkcd - Instagram (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44805521)

My favourites are:

Words with Friends: implement a glithcy slow interface which means that when you are clicking around you have actually clicked an advert before it has even displayed.

Iconomania: Show an advert, with a close button so small it is almost impossible to click. I have great hand-eye coordination, but I must inadvertantly click on ads about 40% of the time when playing Iconomania.

Not a big fan of the Oatmeal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44806505)

Not a big fan of the Oatmeal, but Inman got this right:

http://theoatmeal.com/pl/state_web_spring/instagram

Insta-what? (2)

PNutts (199112) | about a year ago | (#44804217)

In my day we passed along life experiences with stories and interpretive dance. Kids these days.

What sort of question is that? (1)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about a year ago | (#44804511)

Whether Instagram's young and growing user base will balk at the ads, or even notice them, remains to be seen.

Nah, I'm sure that polluting the content won't have any impact. After all, everyone loves advertising.

My first thought on reading this: ads in your pics (1)

Streetlight (1102081) | about a year ago | (#44804549)

At first I expected to see advertisements installed by permanently writing them over one's pictures posted on Instagram. I'm still not sure that that's not what FB intends to do. FB's recent suggestions regarding the sale of your FB information and pics posted on FB to advertisers without compensation would be just the beginning and when they start selling your pics posted on Instagram to advertisers without compensation it may mean the end of that product. This may not be what they say now, but if the ads don't bring enough money, well, we'll see how they respond in future Terms of Service changes.

Why I don't use Instagram (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44804761)

Honestly I don't know why people use Instagram. Camera for Facebook is MUCH better....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobilecloudlabs.cameraforfacebook

Who? (2)

Sir Holo (531007) | about a year ago | (#44806333)

What's an Instagram?

Is that like a Polaroid, only 15 years after losing relevance?

now I get it (1)

tresstatus (260408) | about a year ago | (#44806619)

instagram + in-feed + pictures of peoples food = clever?

Pressgram (1)

RyuMaou (162745) | about a year ago | (#44809009)

I like the idea behind Instagram, but not the proprietary nature of it. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I don't like giving up my rights to work I create. I dislike, as Nicholas Carr termed it, "digital sharecropping" [roughtype.com] And, of course, now the ads have finally started on Instagram, solidifying my discomfort with it.

But, recently, there's a new program, Pressgram [pressgr.am] , that's a free iPhone app (with an Android app coming soon, hopefully), which allows an Instagram-like experience, but uploads the photos to my WordPress blog. You can upload them to your WordPress.com blog, or, as I do, to my self-hosted WordPress blog.

So, in my mind, it has all the "good stuff" in Instagram without the stuff I find objectionable.
Worth checking out, if you're bent that way.

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