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Arrested Chinese Blogger "Confesses" On State TV, Praises Censorship

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the i'm-sure-we-can-take-that-at-face-value dept.

Censorship 349

Koreantoast writes "As part of a broader, chilling Chinese crackdown on Internet dissent, Chinese blogger Charles Xue appeared on Chinese state television in handcuffs on Sunday, denouncing his blog and praising government censorship. He 'confessed' to becoming drunk on the accumulated power of his Weibo blog, which peaked at 12 million followers, and confessed to recklessly spreading unverified rumors and slander, disrupting social harmony and becoming a vent of negative emotion on mainstream society. He also praised new government legislation cracking down on Internet freedom, stating how dangerous the Internet would be if left uncontrolled by the government. Xue was arrested on prostitution solicitation charges though his television confession did not discuss that. His arrest was also suspiciously around the same time as a broader government sweep that picked up other Chinese Internet activists."

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Freedom (-1, Offtopic)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year ago | (#44878339)

Mister goatse would feel right at home with this brand of freedom.

Goatse freedom? (-1, Offtopic)

themushroom (197365) | about a year ago | (#44878473)

Why, because Kirk's anus looks like what this blogger's life just became -- buggered by a cock the size of a telephone pole?

Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (5, Insightful)

DNAgent (31914) | about a year ago | (#44878361)

This is exactly the outcome that Diane Feinstein and others of her ilk would visit upon the U.S., given her way.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (-1, Troll)

GameDevMog (3023363) | about a year ago | (#44878431)

Drudge is a "blogger" now? News to me. Unhinged, shit-flinging monkey perhaps, kind of like you appear to be.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

dugancent (2616577) | about a year ago | (#44878475)

Drudge is a "blogger" now? News to me. Unhinged, shit-flinging monkey perhaps, kind of like you appear to be.

You just described bloggers. 99.9% of them are worthless drivel.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878771)

Drudge is a "blogger" now? News to me. Unhinged, shit-flinging monkey perhaps, kind of like you appear to be.

You just described bloggers. 99.9% of them are worthless drivel.

And you just assumed that an elected politician would know the difference between a blog and a "news" website. Rights are Rights. You either have them, or you don't. That is why ours are so black and white, to avoid generalized fucktard opinions like this that can become law.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879317)

Almost every blog is worthless. That's a fact. Should they be forcibly deleted? No. It would be nice if the bloggers finally woke up to the fact that absolutely nobody is reading the whining emo crap they post and did the world a favor by self-deleting, but no way should they be forced to do it.

IOW, dugancent is correct about the value of blogs, and you were incorrect for misinterpreting his/her point. (Probably because you are a blogger and kid yourself that the whole world breathlessly awaits your next post, when not even your mom would waste her time with your Instagram pics of your lunch, or those complaints about the cashier at your local Starbucks.)

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878463)

This is exactly the outcome that Diane Feinstein and others of her ilk would visit upon the U.S., given her way.

This is what conservatives actually believe.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year ago | (#44879139)

This is what conservatives actually believe.

No, by all means, "conservsative expert", tell them what they believe, don't ask them.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about a year ago | (#44879349)

He's pointing out what the self-described conservatives have said about themselves. The real problem is all the people who change their definitions. Without semantics, there can be no communication.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

Qzukk (229616) | about a year ago | (#44878467)

The Republicans would consider them to be acceptable casualties and collateral damage. And then it will be dailykos's turn.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878499)

Nope, Feinstein is trying to salvage the US by trying to curb the senseless deaths. If she had her way, there would be 26 little kids still alive going to Sandy Hook Elementary.

If you want to know results, try Venezuela. A year ago, they removed the guns from private citizen's hands because of escalating violence. Their crime rate is now 1/1000 (yes, ten cubed) what it was before the gun ban.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year ago | (#44878549)

Thats great. Form a group and lobby for the repeal of the 2nd amendment. Until that time, your example is meaningless.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878605)

You can as many muskets, lead balls, and the black powder you want.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878747)

And you can use parchment, quill, and ink to spread as much news as you want. If we are going to hold one amendment to the time of its passing we should hold them all to the same standard.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878809)

The printing press predates the constitution and is exactly what they meant by 'Freedom of the Press'. The irony is that those who call for the 2nd amendment to progress from the intentions of the founders often consider themselves 'strict constitutionalists' in most other matters.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about a year ago | (#44879365)

No, making them illegal is making them illegal. Having to add a step of passing an Amendment to do so doesn't change the premise or the result, so I'm unclear what your point is. We should pass the Amendment before talking about it?

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (2)

themushroom (197365) | about a year ago | (#44878557)

If she had her way, there would be 26 little kids still alive going to Sandy Hook Elementary.

If anyone had their way, no one would have died. And unless she personally or some law enforcement she alerted somehow showed up outside the school with a sidearm before the bad guy got to the doors, she could have gotten her way. I don't picture that happening.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878625)

A gun ban (like every other civilized country) would have made the massacre of children at Sandy Hook impossible. Why do people like you condone atrocities like this?

Ban. Them. Now. The Second Amendment was meant for an army (you know, the "well regulated militia" part the nuts keep leaving out), not Joe Sixpack shooting stop signs from his porch with his blue tick hound.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

KiloByte (825081) | about a year ago | (#44878851)

The country most similar to US would be UK. It has a total gun ban. Let's compare violent crime rates per 100K people: US 466, UK 2034.

And militia specifically means private citizens rather than the army. The whole point of 2nd amendment is to let citizens be able to defend themselves against crime, including both private criminals and government criminals.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (3, Informative)

dk20 (914954) | about a year ago | (#44879125)

One would think Canada would be most similar to the US except it has a near total gun ban.

I'm not going to pretend Canada is some sort of crime-free nation but the crime index is interesting:
US:53.44
Canada: 34.98

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

AK Marc (707885) | about a year ago | (#44879379)

The 2nd Amendment applies to what is now the National Guard. We never updated the Constitution as we adopted a "standing army" policy.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (4, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#44878877)

Impossible? Really?

Machetes [nbcnews.com] work very well too.

The second amendment granted the PEOPLE the right to arms, not the government, and it was precisely to control the government that they were given these rights. It was fully expected that the PEOPLE would have the same arms as any soldier, which in this the modern era every citizen should be expected to have a fully automatic military long arm and a side arm.

See Switzerland. Vastly higher gun possession rate, gun death rate less than half of the US rate.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879413)

The second amendment granted the PEOPLE the right to arms, not the government

A well regulated militia blah blah blah.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878945)

We have a government that has 'constitution-free zones', 'free-speech areas', and drone strikes the shit out of its own citizens without warrant or trial. And just this summer we found out the government's been spying on all of us. And you still think it's a brilliant idea for Congress to ban all guns.

I used to think gun control was a good idea. I thought all semi-automatic weapons should be outlawed. I could not see the case where a semi-auto rifle could deliver results that a bolt or lever-action simply couldn't provide. I thought the government could be trusted with taking up peoples' weapons. I was wrong.

My views changed on this subject last summer, due to articles about the NDAA, willy-nilly drone strikes, the NSA data center in Utah (hey! the conspiracy nuts were right...again), and the whole Julian Assange embassy business. Even if a gun ban worked perfectly, and everybody (including the criminals) turned in their weapons to Uncle Sam...what do you think would happen about government abuses? We're knocking down the four boxes pretty quick. Soap doesn't work. I don't have a multi-million dollar news network to spread my views. Ballot doesn't work. The elections are rigged. Jury doesn't work. Not with secret courts. We're down to the ammo box, friends and neighbors. Giving that ammo box back to the same critters who tyrannize us will do...what, exactly? A few million pissed-off people with hunting rifles can cause a hell of a lot of trouble.

Hey, I even used to buy into the whole 'mouth-breathing redneck meme', too. And then I started getting to know some. You know, being open-minded and all that crap. Turns out, they're pretty darned cool. Sure, they may not have sheepskins from universities on their walls, but they've got a hell of a lot more practical knowledge than I do. Some of the most intelligent people I've ever met are farmers who dropped out of high school. Some of the stupidest, most naive jackasses I've ever encountered have multiple PhDs from Yale and Stanford. Don't generalize before you really hang out with a group. They might surprise you. Ah, and most of the 'mouth-breathing rednecks' I've known have exhibited extreme amounts of caution and safety when operating a weapon. They know how much damage it can do.

Gun ban legislation will only do one thing: spark civil war. The 'Joe Sixpacks' with their blue tick hounds are plenty pissed about the Patriot Act, NDAA, and all that other crap. Don't let the stupid media stereotypes fool you! They like the first amendment too. A gun ban will push them over the edge (last box). It will not work. Simply because a lot of people will not let it work. Good for them, I say.

I think you've got a very inaccurate misconception about rural people. Spend some time with 'em. They'll blow your mind. I betcha we're on the same side about all the overreaches of power and whatnot. Let's focus on *that* first. Priorities. Let's reestablish a free country with liberty for all again.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879239)

Posting AC because the gun debate gets old after a while, but there is one point missing.

Guns are a wanted part of US culture, from the Wild West to the rednecks, to the gangbangers, and are part of every strata of US society.

Guess what will happen with a gun ban? Yep, the exact same thing that is happening because drugs are banned, and how alcohol was banned. Prohibition doesn't work. One has to change attitudes first (like drunk driving), then laws will change and be heeded.

A gun ban will get guns in more demand. Instead of top quality brands, people will be churning them out in basements. If ammo gets scarce, someone will make it from some chemical, somewhere.

Of course, with alcohol banned in the past, we got the mob. With drugs, we got the cartels. With guns, we will get gangs... and they will be the armed ones, and likely better armed than most police forces.

Do we want heavily gangsters be the only source of armaments? The police won't be able to stamp them out, and every disaffected 15 year old kid will find the gangsters cool, spawning a "cowboy" archetype similar to the bootlegger or someone who outfoxes the law? Do we want the ultimate of cool to be killing someone to take their handguns or ammo stash (like is done with drug stashes)?

I normally don't like stepping into the gun control argument, but lets be real, prohibition will not work. Instead, attitudes must change and make guns either viewed as tools (like the rest of the world), or even unstylish. Then, gun control might work. However, do we want to trade these shootings for constant shootings where gangs out-gun the police at every encounter? The existing drug cartels will be damn happy to start with metal shops and making firearms as well as getting gunpowder for ammo. If they know they are the only armed party in a town, they only gain more power.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year ago | (#44879157)

...would have made the massacre of children at Sandy Hook impossible.

No. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (2)

AlphaWoIf_HK (3042365) | about a year ago | (#44879501)

Why do people like you condone atrocities like this?

Because I believe that freedom is more important than safety. Because I believe that we shouldn't punish everyone for the actions of a few. Because I have principles; unlike you. And I don't even own a gun.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (3, Interesting)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#44878739)

If you want to know results, try Venezuela. A year ago, they removed the guns from private citizen's hands because of escalating violence. Their crime rate is now 1/1000 (yes, ten cubed) what it was before the gun ban.

They removed some small percentage of arms from the hands of citizens, mostly to prevent overthrow of Chavez, and since he is dead, nobody cares any more. Other than that your claim is totally bogus.

But then, posting as AC, its what we all expect.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (-1, Flamebait)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#44878773)

That's not true, but you keep sucking that NRA cock.

Everyone country that instituted enforced gun control or ban has seen a drop in crime.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879063)

> That's not true, but you keep sucking that NRA cock.

He said nothing about the NRA. The interests of the NRA are not relevant, but you sure seem fanatic to bring them into it.

> Everyone country that instituted enforced gun control or ban has seen a drop in crime.

You're implying that this is the most important part of "gun control" laws?
That's strangely backward and not a solution to crime. I'll take fewer "gun control" laws and live with some crime and fear of death.
Should help to break up the mega-slums that the US churns out.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (0)

AK Marc (707885) | about a year ago | (#44879407)

. I'll take fewer "gun control" laws and live with some crime and fear of death.

You'd rather be dead with a gun in your hand, than alive with no guns in your house? That seems silly to me.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (4, Interesting)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year ago | (#44878749)

Thats WONDERFUL! Say, whats the state of human rights, democracy, etc in Venezuela?

All of these things are connected, you know; the Bill of Rights wasnt drafted for no reason.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878845)

Venezuela's crime rate is 1/1000 of what it was? Why are articles like this http://www.english.rfi.fr/americas/20130619-impunity-leads-soaring-venezuela-crime-rate so easily found?

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (3, Insightful)

PRMan (959735) | about a year ago | (#44878857)

Yeah, can the "I always vote Democrat" idiots in California finally vote her out please? I'm sick of being represented by her. But since they elected Jerry Brown to bankrupt California for a third time, probably not.

Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next (1)

compucomp2 (1776668) | about a year ago | (#44879271)

Notice how Drudge is his example "blogger" and Diane Feinstein is the example "big government" representative. This post is a blatant Republican astroturfing attempt to score a few cheap political points on the sly.

Tent camp! (3, Insightful)

s.petry (762400) | about a year ago | (#44878365)

The leaders of the so called free world promptly laid their coats over their laps after reading that little tidbit. I'm sure they were also wondering "How long till we can do that here?"

Just to be fair, I'm sure Merkel and Hillary had to cover their laps as well for similar "problems".

Re:Tent camp! (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year ago | (#44878701)

Like you, I imagine representatives of the lawmaking class viewing freedom for the masses as a dark thorn in the side of their mission to protect us. Still, I hold out hope proponents of a great and free society have infiltrated the ranks of the rule makers to work clandestinely on the other side.

Re:Tent camp! (2)

LifesABeach (234436) | about a year ago | (#44878969)

I was reminded of the book, "1984." It's suppose to be fiction, right?

Re:Tent camp! (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year ago | (#44879057)

That is where the Library files it. I suppose it also posits as both potential prophecy and how-to manual.

Re: Tent camp! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879155)

It was supposed to be a warning about a future that is surprisingly tangible right now (although the context is a little different).

Re:Tent camp! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879233)

I was reminded of the book, "1984." It's suppose to be fiction, right?

In principle, yes. The ideas, however, were drawn upon personal observations and experiences of a former member of the Imperial Police in East Asia. His name was Eric Blair.

Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878375)

I wanna see the video! Come on guys, include the link. We want to know where we are going...

Five fingers (1)

pluther (647209) | about a year ago | (#44878379)

He also said that the prompter was holding up five fingers.

I will never understand why they coerce these false confessions. There can't be more than a handful of people, especially in China where trust in their government is even lower than over here, who believes he changed his mind on his own.

Re:Five fingers (1)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | about a year ago | (#44878429)

Funny thing happens when everyone is dependant on their government for every facet of thier lives.

Never need your government more than your government needs you.

its not about trust (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year ago | (#44878501)

Its affirmation that if you *will* conform, or else.

Re:Five fingers (1)

cheater512 (783349) | about a year ago | (#44878797)

The population of the US actually pretty broadly trusts their government.

Here is a box of tissues.

Re:Five fingers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879017)

That's the point of the coercion. The unspoken horror of what happened in the interim. They "got to him" -- and you don't even know how.

Re:Five fingers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879285)

yep, pretty obvious...but never under estimate the power of ignorance.

Prositutiion? In China? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878387)

It has been written that in a commie society everything is free. How can this be then? Is China pulling a fast one? I recommend waterboarding, which is known to be both safe and effective, for all involved so that we, the peoples of these greats worlds, may come to meet the truth.

Re: Prositutiion? In China? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878477)

China are State Capitalists, not "commies." You should try to receive an education before posting such mind-numbing comments.

Re: Prositutiion? In China? (1)

dk20 (914954) | about a year ago | (#44879275)

When it comes to posts about China, most of the comments are utter nonsense/untrue.

Propaganda at its finest written by people who most likely dont even own a passport, never mind have any first hand experience to back what they say.

Bradley Manning (5, Insightful)

Jherek Carnelian (831679) | about a year ago | (#44878395)

And yet when Bradley Manning makes an eerily similar statement plenty of people are willing to take it as proof positive that he was a bad guy.

Re:Bradley Manning (4, Interesting)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#44878511)

And yet when Bradley Manning makes an eerily similar statement plenty of people are willing to take it as proof positive that he was a bad guy.

The definition of patriotism is believing your country is the best country on Earth simply because you were born in it. Nobody's national anthem starts with "We're Number Two!" So when America says someone's bad, americans believe it, but nobody else does. When the Chinese say someone's bad, the chinese people believe it, but nobody else. And so on, and so on.

Nationalism is hardly a problem confined to America; It blinds people equally the world over. Here's some Russian [utdallas.edu] propaganda about American, and here's some American [designer-daily.com] propaganda about Russians. It's all the same.

Re:Bradley Manning (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year ago | (#44878779)

Patriotism is rooted in tribalism, and at various and sundry periods in time it was a survival mechanism for a random selection of genetic information. Whether or not this feature is presently vestigial, it remains religion-like as a proven tool to govern and/or control populations.

Re:Bradley Manning (2)

dk20 (914954) | about a year ago | (#44879297)

If i could mod you up i would... I've always thought this way, but its funny when you talk to some people. They are fast to tell you something like "that's just propaganda from ..." but they seem to feel their own country doesn't have an active propaganda program.

Re:Bradley Manning (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879373)

^^^ When the Chinese say someone's bad, the chinese people believe it, ...^^^

You are very very very wrong. People in other countries do have patriotism etc but not the "My country, right or wrong" poison running through their blood. I have some unscientific explanation for their humbleness: They have been around longer than 200 years so it doesn't require them to deal with "has no culture, no history" which leads to inferiority leads which leads to "I am the best" complex.

Re:Bradley Manning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878519)

Yeah, except Manning gave away every secret he could get his hands on, regardless of the consequences to anybody else.

Re:Bradley Manning (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year ago | (#44878799)

Some men just want to watch the World burn.

Re:Bradley Manning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878941)

And the proof is right there in his confession!

Re:Bradley Manning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878639)

As a Chinese citizen in the US and hoping to go back, I am truly depressed today. I RTFA. I used to defend my country on slashdot, but I will not bother from now on.

Re:Bradley Manning (2)

LifesABeach (234436) | about a year ago | (#44879035)

Charles Xue did not steal, Bradley Manning did. Would anybody have cared if Bradley Manning had blogged what he felt instead of what he discovered? As for China, "human rights" are just 2 words in an engrish test.

Re:Bradley Manning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879339)

It's more like Bradley Manning made an oath to protect the secrets of the United States no matter how dumb they are. You sign away some rights when you JOIN THE MILITARY. As far as I know, not all Chinese citizens are required to make such an oath.

Re:Bradley Manning (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879453)

Perhaps some of us take the part of the oath to support and defend the constitution seriously enough to not plug our ears and sing "la la la" whenever terrible leadership is blatantly violating it?

Re:Bradley Manning (1)

poity (465672) | about a year ago | (#44879261)

Average Twitter celebrity = Charles Xue
Bradley/Chelsea Manning = ???Chinese military whistle blower???

Average Twitter celebrity: still tweeting; Charles Xue: arrested, made to confess on TV
Bradley/Chelsea Manning: 35 years in jail; ???Chinese military whistle blower???: the world will never know this man or his fate

obama and the nsa (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878399)

They'd love to do it here, but for our exceptional Constitution, weakened as it has become.

Re:obama and the nsa (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878615)

they already are doing it there. only its much much worse at least in china they dont hide it.

NSA Wet Dream (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878423)

This image is a wet dream of the NSA, CIA, and rest of the US government.

Oblig Orwell (5, Interesting)

Bookworm09 (1321243) | about a year ago | (#44878427)

He loved Big Brother.

Re:Oblig Orwell (2)

dmt0 (1295725) | about a year ago | (#44878531)

He also admitted that entering the new phase in his life he wants to be a woman and receive hormonal treatment.

Re:Oblig Orwell (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878841)

He loved Big Brother.

He also admitted that entering the new phase in his life he wants to be a woman and receive hormonal treatment.

Sounds like he loved Big Sister too.

Where have I read this before...? (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year ago | (#44878433)

"...I wrote and diseminated subversive literature, I lay with prostitutes in order to spread disease, I blew up bridges and commited anarchistic acts, spread terror upon innocents, I now only ask that you accept my love of Big Brother."

The video (2)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year ago | (#44878441)

here [youtube.com]

i wonder what they threatened him with (3, Insightful)

ClassicASP (1791116) | about a year ago | (#44878449)

i gotta think people in china are intelligent enough to know this is a forced confession. and china's govt has to know their population is intelligent enough to know this. they're just basically making example of this guy as a message to its population to say "we can make you do whatever we want". i bet they threated to lobotomize the guy or something like that.

Re:i wonder what they threatened him with (3, Insightful)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year ago | (#44878781)

they're just basically making example of this guy as a message to its population to say "we can make you do whatever we want".

As they say in China: Kill the chicken to scare the monkey [chinesedic.com] .

Re:i wonder what they threatened him with (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878991)

Huh. Here in Alabama it's chokin' the chicken to spank the monkey.

Re:i wonder what they threatened him with (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879305)

- kill one to warn a hundred
http://www.chine-informations.com/chinois/outils/chengyu/index.php?chengyu=%E6%9D%80%E4%B8%80%E5%84%86%E7%99%BE

Re:i wonder what they threatened him with (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878783)

He's a venture capitalist and billionaire. He's got plenty to lose that has nothing to do with physical threats.

Re:i wonder what they threatened him with (1)

mynamestolen (2566945) | about a year ago | (#44879479)

Actually no. You are looking at a society with a massively different attitude to these things. Yes some will know it's not a real confession, but many many more will think, "where there's smoke there's fire". Such people will think that a person with "face" (ie a real Chinese person) would never say stuff like this unless they meant it. The confession also gels with the massive amount of propaganda that the Chinese society now lives within. I guess you've read Orwell's 1984, well, Chinese society is like that. The weird mixture of fear/love, the emotions, the belief that the government is right and loves me and is doing the best for China is a powerful amalgam of religious dimension. I've been going back and forth to China for 30 years. I have close friends there that beg me never ever to discuss this stuff with them in writing. They are the ones that know. But the great unwashed masses and the urban middle class don't want to know. Like in the west, it's easier to consume, do nothing and live in the dominant paradigm without questioning. They are getting richer at the expense of the rural areas. Rural people are locked up in black jails if they get caught in the cities without permission. I could go on and on, but believe me - this public humiliation will have some traction, perhaps akin to what the climate change deniers get in the west.

Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878457)

This is so totally different than Bradley Manning's statement of regret at harming his country at his sentencing. [portside.org]

I mean, one was a statement from an obviously-tortured prisoner of conscience, having their life ruined by a violently repressive totalitarian regime seeking to send a message to its citizens to shut up and get in line, who is now willing to say or do anything the regime wants so he can try to salvage some pathetic remnant of his life. While the other was... uh, wait a minute.

Re: Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878731)

are you aware your complaint format has been iterated by every nerd since the usenet and bbs days? do you realize how impotent and ineffectual you sound? you sound like an impotent nerd and are making zero difference by making your comment. you dont actually care about censorship or bradely manning or other people really. if you did you would stop making impotent comments and actually take action.

you are a coward. everyone can see it, and no, yelling at me wont change that.

Re: Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879115)

Are you aware your complaint has also been iterated by every nerd since the usenet and bbs days? Do you realize how impotent and ineffectual you sound? You sound like an impotent nerd and are making zero difference by making your comment. You don't actually care about censorship or Chelsea Manning or other people, really. If you did, you would stop making impotent comments and actually take action.

You are a coward. Everyone can see it.

Good news comrades (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878459)

He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

Translation ... (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#44878489)

They threatened me and my family, and the only way I can escape prison or a firing squad is to publicly denounce this.

I do not believe this is anything other than agreeing to repeat the party line under duress.

That's Nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878517)

If you tune in to MSNBC, there's a whole newsroom full of people praising the government's spying and censorship. And we didn't even have to arrest them first!

SOP: leave the body as a warning to the others (1)

themushroom (197365) | about a year ago | (#44878523)

Or since this is China, he'll be the most famous member of the "Bodies" exhibit in a year.

That's the only reason why he'd be pushed to renounce his beliefs and practices, because the guvmint wanted others like him to curl up and give up so they're making an example of him. And for the record, the Internet that he says is best controlled by the government is controlled by the government, it's behind the Great Firewall and required him to find a way around it to be heard.

Re:SOP: leave the body as a warning to the others (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year ago | (#44878853)

Crafty. Just saw the "Bodies" in Vegas. Well done.

Open your eyes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878541)

Nota bene, Sinophiles.

O cruel, needless misunderstanding! (3, Informative)

X X (3112619) | about a year ago | (#44878565)

O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother”

China not afraid (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878591)

On the one hand, the suppression of free speech by the Chinese government is, of course, completely deplorable. On the other, the Chinese government is apparently not afraid of the one percenters living in China. Xue, who is a naturalized US citizen and venture capitalist, is also a billionaire.

Confessed on TV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878613)

Has he been seen drinking at the Chestnut Tree Cafe?

Censorship (1)

ZipXap (2773541) | about a year ago | (#44878647)

Meanwhile people in the US seem to be getting dumber and more misinformed by the second. Maybe censorship is the way to go...

This man was tortured (2)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year ago | (#44878663)

No one seems to care

Re:This man was tortured (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879355)

These are a people that would see a girl get run over and do nothing about it. Apathy towards their fellows is a part of their culture, as deeply ingrained as their writing system or their desire to escape the view that the country is a dirty has-been.

So, in other words: (4, Insightful)

kheldan (1460303) | about a year ago | (#44878709)

..he was black-bag arrested, subjected to torture, beaten, starved, thrown in an oubliette for a time, threatened with death, had his friends and family threatened with all the above, and likely drugged, until he finally broke and was willing to say anything they wanted him to say, no matter the cost to him or his reputation, and no matter how humiliating. Next he'll probably "commit suicide", leaving behind a note explaining how he couldn't live with the guilt and shame for having spoken such lies about the glorious and just Communist government of China.

Yeah, sure. Sounds like just another normal day in mainland China.

Re:So, in other words: (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44878907)

Yeah, you can tell how tortured, beaten, starved, and drugged he was during his broadcasted confession in this video:
http://v.163.com/zixun/V8GAM7JAP/V97SHLBI4.html

Can we make 4chan trolls do this please? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44879033)

Please please can we make Trolls have to make public apologies any time they spread untruths

Still think Assange "rape" charge has any merit? (2)

FuzzNugget (2840687) | about a year ago | (#44879237)

This is what fascist governments (and their lapdogs) do, be they Chinese, American or Swedish. They doctor up charges of a very stigmatized crime when you publish information that you don't like, turning the public against them because, "ew, he's a perv, who cares what he thinks?"
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