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Valve Announces Steambox, Sort Of

timothy posted about a year ago | from the rumor-of-a-leak-of-a-buzz-generation-machine dept.

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wbr1 writes "A new page has appeared over at Steam with this slightly cryptic text, a countdown, and an image of a console controller. 'Last year, we shipped a software feature called Big Picture, a user-interface tailored for televisions and gamepads. This year we've been working on even more ways to connect the dots for customers who want Steam in the living-room. Soon, we'll be adding you to our design process, so that you can help us shape the future of Steam.' It appears Gabe Newell wants to throw his hat in the console ring now with the Xbox One and PS4 about to be released. The countdown to the announcement is targeted at Monday."

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that name.. (0)

gangien (151940) | about a year ago | (#44916561)

XBone.. is that really what people are calling it, in a non derogatory way?

Re:that name.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916591)

The problem is how to quickly refer to that specific console.

Right now, if I say "oh, it's a new XBox game" I'm probably referring to the XBox 360. If I want to talk about "the first Halo game on the XBox One" it's still kind of ambiguous whether or not I'm referring to Halo (the game released in 2001) or a new Halo game to be played on the XBox One console, slated to be released in 2014.

Since no one calls the Original Xbox console the "XBone", people have adopted it as the only non-ambiguous way to talk about the console without using extra random descriptors.

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916607)

And by slated to be released in 2014 I mean slated to be released this year (2013).

Wooooooo proof-reading!

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916617)

They should call it "The One" instead

Sounds way better

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916721)

Sorry, Microsoft shill. YOU named it in a silly and ambiguous manner, and gamers did what they do and shortened it to something unique.

You could have called it the Xbox Infinity, but nooo.

Re:that name.. (5, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#44916849)

And what would you call the next one after that? Infinity+1? Infinity++?

You have to be careful with superlatives and absolutes when naming your product, unless you're pretty sure that it will be the swan song to your line of ...

You're right. XBox Infinity would have been fitting.

Re:that name.. (1)

Carewolf (581105) | about a year ago | (#44916701)

Either that or the XBox One-Eighty. It works non ambigously as well, but was most popular a few months ago.

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916759)

That's pretty far from unambiguous. The XBone was commonly referred to as XBox 720 before the official name was announced. Since 720 = 3 and 360 = 2, then logically 180 = 1. The one-eighty name was only popular because MS did a complete reversal in their policies regarding the XBone. Once that news became old, the name fell out of favor.

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916793)

how is 720 = 3?
wouldn't 720 be 2 or 4, depending on whether you take 360 as 1 or 2?

Re:that name.. (1)

NotSoHeavyD3 (1400425) | about a year ago | (#44917023)

I guess the formula would be 180*(2)^(N-1). Yeah, you're right. That's kind of pushing it.

Re:that name.. (5, Funny)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year ago | (#44916631)

XBone.. is that really what people are calling it, in a non derogatory way?

Some of us had assumed all references to XBone were derogatory, one way or another.
But it's hard to tell, as even fans of the XBone seem to use the same term. It's as if they somehow enjoy being boned.

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916645)

But it's hard to tell, as even fans of the XBone seem to use the same term. It's as if they somehow enjoy being boned.

Masochism does seem to run rampant in the video game community.

Re:that name.. (1)

Carewolf (581105) | about a year ago | (#44916705)

Nicknames work best when they have humorous origin.

Re:that name.. (5, Informative)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44916765)

OP here. I meant it as derogatory.

Re:that name.. (0)

gweihir (88907) | about a year ago | (#44916835)

But it's hard to tell, as even fans of the XBone seem to use the same term. It's as if they somehow enjoy being boned.

Ever met an MS fanboi that was not a masochist?

Re:that name.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916943)

I believe it's the black people calling themselves 'niggers' effect.

Re:that name.. (1)

petermgreen (876956) | about a year ago | (#44917267)

Or they simply see it as a contraction of xbox one and don't even notice that it could be read as "x bone"

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916637)

Every time I see that, I can't think of a reason it would be used unless the writer is being derogatory.

Re:that name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916915)

I just call it the Bone as an easily pronounced and short name.

They've got a good shot at it (4, Interesting)

msobkow (48369) | about a year ago | (#44916577)

I think Valve has a very good shot at taking on the console market.

They have a recognizable and respected name.

Their online delivery system is tested and reliable.

Their software quality is generally good.

What I know of their test betas has been solid.

They have a huge catalogue of games for the platform before it's even released.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (4, Interesting)

Torp (199297) | about a year ago | (#44916623)

Actually they don't have a huge catalogue, since it will supposedly run Linux.
Unless they'll provide a lot of games prepackaged with a version of Wine customized to run like lightning on their hardware... hmm...

Re:They've got a good shot at it (5, Informative)

wertigon (1204486) | about a year ago | (#44916679)

200 launch titles is nothing to scoff at, actually...

Re:They've got a good shot at it (2)

Carewolf (581105) | about a year ago | (#44916709)

More launch titles than most consoles have dad?

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917135)

I don't know of any consoles which have more than 200 dad, so yes.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916719)

200 launch titles

...are certainly something to scoff at when you're talking about old games.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

poetmatt (793785) | about a year ago | (#44917137)

sure, if they were talking about old games. They aren't.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

hobarrera (2008506) | about a year ago | (#44916871)

Also, knowing Valve, they'll probably release some UNIQUE title along with steambox, as a steambox exclusive or something!

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916909)

I don't think they'd do that and risk making their PC market angry. Exclusives suck, and Valve knows that exclusives suck.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (3, Interesting)

aliquis (678370) | about a year ago | (#44917317)

Bundle it with all their own titles (Half-life, HL2, CS, TF2, Portal 1 & 2) would be a start for people who haven't played it, maybe not that exciting for people who play games though.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916923)

Yay, Half Life Ep3

*is struck by lightning*

Yay, Half Life Ep3 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916983)

They will release Half Life Ep 4 just to troll people.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

verbatim_verbose (411803) | about a year ago | (#44917017)

Well, Steam-exclusive maybe. It doesn't sound very Valve-like for it to be SteamBox-exclusive.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917263)

No, Knowing valve they will release some sort of unique digital item for tf2 or dota 2.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916683)

"Actually they don't have a huge catalogue, since it will supposedly run Linux."

Once the ball is rolling, money and connections will smooth the path to better gaming on Linux.

Linux is spreading in many subtle ways, let's all enjoy the ride!

Re:They've got a good shot at it (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916687)

Well the current count on the store's Linux list is 297. Maybe not huge, but I don't remember many consoles having nearly 300 games before being even announced...
And yes, they ARE working on releasing games with Wine. System Shock 2 and Wizardry 8 are on the list AFAIK (ok, not the freshest games, but still...)

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916963)

I wish people would stop forgetting about Desura!. They have MORE Linux games than Steam. Even AAA titles like Freespace 2.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916691)

I think you and a lot of people have misunderstood. Valve may well produce a "steam" box...but only to kick start it. The idea will likely be specs for running steam. The box itself will be open to install any OS on it. One option will be a steam box running a Linux distro

Re:They've got a good shot at it (4, Informative)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44916769)

They may not have a huge library of linux games, but what they do have are some exclusive AAA titles they could trot out. L4D3, HL3, Portal 3, etc....

Re:They've got a good shot at it (4, Interesting)

ubersoldat2k7 (1557119) | about a year ago | (#44916811)

Apart of the 200 already existing titles already mentioned, SteamBox + HalfLife3 would be a killer move from Valve and place them, at least, at a very good starting position. I can dream, can't I?

What worries me is that, some big shots like GTAV are not in those 200 titles.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (2)

Mike Frett (2811077) | about a year ago | (#44916973)

Who cares about GTAV?. It's rehashed material designed to make money. You really think those EA's and Rockstars CARE about Games anymore?.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (5, Funny)

Rolpa (3036845) | about a year ago | (#44917105)

Who cares about GTAV?.

I have a billion dollars that would like to have a word with you.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916889)

If Valve is going to release a console, then it would be a good idea to use linux. Its lightweight, and not as crappy as the other options. And what does it matter if they use linux on their own console? Are you smoking some bad sh*t? or just have no idea what your talking about? They won't need to use wine. Lay off of the drugs, and start to educate yourself.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

aliquis (678370) | about a year ago | (#44917309)

More engines run on Linux, SDL 2 is released, "if you build it they will come" and so on.

One disadvantage people may see with PCs is the lack of common configuration. One advantage though is that if you develop a game for Steam/PC it will likely / hopefully also run on future setups so they can upgrade the steam box and people can upgrade their PCs and the titles can still be sold.

On the consoles sometimes popular titles are ported to a newer one, some has been backwards compatible and if cracked people develop emulators but it's not as convenient.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (2)

Alef (605149) | about a year ago | (#44916667)

It's not going to be easy. Bootstrapping a console ecosystem is immensely expensive. You need to become big very quickly, or you get a negative feedback cycle where you have few users, leading to few games being developed for it, leading to fewer users, and so on. To an extent, they can leverage their PC gaming presence, but it's still going to be an extra cost for developers to support an additional platform, which they aren't going to take unless there is a significant market there. And if the consoles are much more expensive than the competition, it'll be a tough sell to console gamers. If they don't have the economy of scales, they'll have to subsidise the hardware, and that costs serious bucks. Microsoft took an enormous investment when they entered the console market with the original XBox.

I'm thinking their best bet is to make it an open specification for which they develop a standard software stack, kind of like Android did for smart phones. That way, they can get hardware vendors (Samsung et al.) to make the heavy lifting.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (2)

Hadlock (143607) | about a year ago | (#44916779)

If Valve managed to talk Rockstar in to developing a linux/steambox edition of GTA V, that alone would cement them as a Real Console manufacturer. GTA V PC is supposed to launch around the same time as the Steam Box is. Just sayin'...

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

drsquare (530038) | about a year ago | (#44916891)

There's no Nintendo GTA5 so what makes you think there'd be a Steambox GTA5?

Re:They've got a good shot at it (4, Insightful)

Alef (605149) | about a year ago | (#44916899)

That's one part of the equation; a few big titles is more or less necessary for them to stand a chance at all. But they still need someone to produce the consoles cheaply (if they cost like a gaming PC it'll never compete with XBone or PS4), and that requires volume, which in turn requires a huge initial investment and commitment. I'm not saying it's impossible, and as a Linux user, once a gamer myself I really hope they succeed, but they only way I'd bet on it is if they've managed to attract some of the big players in the hardware industry (e.g. Samsung, LG, Asus, Acer) that might be interested in grabbing piece of the console gaming pie and are willing to chip in some serious resources to do it.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year ago | (#44917045)

The controller will be key here. If they offer mouse/keyboard input so console gamers can play all those PC games that are desirable but don't translate well to a traditional console gamepad they could have a lot of buyers.

I think the differences between the PS4 and XBone will be minimal a year after the launch. Games cost too much to develop for them to be platform exclusive, beyond some subsidised launch titles that get to complete in a market that isn't yet flooded. Valve could offer something genuinely different with titles that won't appear on other machines.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916671)

>They have a huge catalogue of games for the platform before it's even released.

A big (not huge by any mean) catalogue of indie games, you mean?

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916723)

Indie Games Console, but with some quality controls too? Sign me up.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916715)

Yeah but they will screw it up somehow.

Look at Source, look at Steam.exe itself.
They are atrociously awful at times, start and ending especially, gotta thrash that hard drive a bit for no raisin, gotta save all that NOTHING that happened. (I literally have a hotkey just to terminate it, I ain't waiting on that crap, close when you are told god damn it!)
There are older, more complicated games that start in less than a tenth of the time of some Source games, IN STEAM, that is where my beef comes from.

I seriously hope they are working on Source3 and a replacement for Steam.
Steam is literally a web browser, chat client and basic file manager.
Konqueror, the closest example I have used, ran on my ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 660Mhz laptop off a live disc with 512MB USB pen for storage and 1GB RAM flawlessly, not even remotely as slow as Steam runs.
What is up with that Valve? Why?

Also, I question how they are even going to keep up with a DD-only console.
Steam already horrifically dies at servers when even a moderately popular event / game launch / sale happens. A CONSOLE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
I hope they have been saving all that hat money to buy a bunch of servers around the world to beef up the current file servers.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#44916971)

Konqueror, the closest example I have used, ran on my ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 660Mhz laptop off a live disc with 512MB USB pen for storage and 1GB RAM flawlessly, not even remotely as slow as Steam runs. What is up with that Valve? Why?

Agreed, Steam has always been quite puffy. It's also a bit crazy that the client gobs 100MB of memory when it only sits in the system tray. Modern machines have a lot of RAM, but it could still be engineered much better.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917401)

"gotta thrash that hard drive a bit for no raisin"

Well, considering I don't like raisins I guess that's a bonus for me!

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

gweihir (88907) | about a year ago | (#44916837)

I would love for that to happen, but we will see. The MS island of incompatibility is certainly not the way into the future.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916955)

They'd have to be playable from the couch with pads, so that's a lot less.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

Bert64 (520050) | about a year ago | (#44917277)

A bluetooth keyboard on your lap and a solid mousepad on the chair arm work quite well, some games are much better played with keyboard/mouse but look better on a large tv than a small monitor.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917129)

I think Valve has a very good shot at taking on the console market.

Ha Ha that's funny.

They have a recognizable and respected name.

Not in the console market.

Their online delivery system is tested and reliable.

Except for the reliable part.

Their software quality is generally good.

Then why is Steam App such a piece of crap?

What I know of their test betas has been solid.

So have the PS4 and the X Box One. It means jack shit.

They have a huge catalogue of games for the platform before it's even released.

None of which will work on the Steambox.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (1)

aliquis (678370) | about a year ago | (#44917299)

I just with the PC market wasn't split between Steam, Desura, Origin, Bnet ..

I would like to have my game and people in the same client please. Stupid DRM. If all games was allowed in into Steam and at very good prices for indie games / cheap games maybe the rest wouldn't had existed.

Then again I totally appreciate if the store doesn't show a whole bunch of shovel ware. So I guess it's ok with categorised software like AAA titles, other commercial, greenlit indieware, other indieware or something such.

Kinda wish the shovel ware wasn't released at all because it's just a waste of peoples time but that won't happen of course. Weird it ends up in some game bundles, good thing with the humble bundle one in that they are likely quite restrictive about what crap they let in and I guess that's part of why they are popular.

(I just wish I could get the old bundles somehow.)

Steam client is better than the desura one.

Re:They've got a good shot at it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917337)

It is kind of amusing, the comment about DRM, because that's what Steam is. Mind you, it's DRM implemented in a way that's not stupid and restrictive and the client actually seems to be a good thing. Plus, it generally accounts for the fact that digital publishing is cheaper than physical publishing.

I will say that amongst the quite often shovel ware seeming there are some gems. For example, Altitude is actually a rather fun game, though a little frustrating the first hour or so, if you haven't played similar types of games.

Cheap and disposable? (1)

Raumkraut (518382) | about a year ago | (#44916609)

That controller appears to be made of corrugated cardboard.

Re:Cheap and disposable? (1)

Knuckles (8964) | about a year ago | (#44916657)

Like the cat.

Re:Cheap and disposable? (1)

Radak (126696) | about a year ago | (#44916735)

Hahaha. Oh wait, you were serious? Let me laugh even harder.

Re:Cheap and disposable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916749)

note this part:
"Soon, we’ll be adding you to our design process, so that you can help us shape the future of Steam."

Re:Cheap and disposable? (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#44916977)

I hope it means "we will humbly listen to your feedback" rather than "we will rigorously datamine everything you do when you are gaming".

Console controller? (4, Insightful)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | about a year ago | (#44916633)

That device is called a "gamepad" and has existed on the PC for years.

Re:Console controller? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916741)

It existed in game consoles before PCs even had color graphics.

Re:Console controller? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916777)

It existed in game consoles before PCs even had color graphics.

Hey now! My TI-99-4A had 16 colors in 1980/81!

Re:Console controller? (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#44916991)

id Software worked around all the color limitations quite cleverly in their older games as they used only two colors: dark brown and dark grey. ;)

Re:Console controller? (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44916781)

Op again. Sure, I have a 'gamepad' for my PC. I use it when emulating my old console games. For PC games its WASD + mouse biotches :P.

The implication/hint being that this is a console announcement. However it says they will involve us in the design process. I hope that means we can turn off monitoring and always online aspects!

Re:Console controller? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916861)

Hey, I don't understand what you're all talking about. Given the picture surely they're suggesting I'll be able to play Steam games on my cat!

Re:Console controller? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916913)

You can turn off online. Steam has an offline mode.

Re:Console controller? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916949)

You can turn off online. Steam has an offline mode.

No, it doesn't.

Re:Console controller? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917157)

Yes, it does. It seldom works, but it's there.

Not gonna happen (1)

greggman (102198) | about a year ago | (#44916639)

I'd love to be wrong but what would make me get a steam box over regular consoles? The regular consoles have exclusives I want to play. The steam box seems unlikely to have any exclusives.

Re:Not gonna happen (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916649)

Then you, my friend may not be their target audience.
If Valve make titles available to play on both PC & Steambox with just the one license then I would likely purchase one.

Re:Not gonna happen (2)

LRAD (1822746) | about a year ago | (#44916661)

I believe that a Steam Box will be a modified PC running linux or windows that is designed to have a steam shell for maximum gamepad gaming. You'll use the same Steam account over however many systems you have, as it is now.

Re:Not gonna happen (1)

Mike Frett (2811077) | about a year ago | (#44916987)

It will NOT be using Windows. You can buy a Windows license and install it if you like, but SteamBox is Linux 100%. Valve wants to get as far away from Microsoft as possible. I can see a future where they don't offer steam for Windows anymore.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917037)

I can see a future where they don't offer steam for Windows anymore.

In this future is Valve bankrupt?

Linux is 0.9% on the monthly Steam stats. Microsoft is doomed!

Re:Not gonna happen (1)

fostware (551290) | about a year ago | (#44917265)

You mean Steam Family access?

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

LRAD (1822746) | about a year ago | (#44916659)

I only play EXCLUSIVE games! If it's available on more platforms than one it's DUMB! In that case, there will be plenty of Steam games that aren't on consoles.

Re:Not gonna happen (1)

greggman (102198) | about a year ago | (#44916707)

I only buy things I need to play the games I want to play. If the game plays on my PC no need to buy another console to play it.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916761)

I guess you only have one PC, one screen, one frying pan, one clock, one sink, and so on...?

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916809)

I don't know about the other guy, but yes. I do only have 1 of each of those things.
Why would I have more than one sink? this isn't a restaurant.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916823)

Two sinks are very convenient: one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916867)

only barbarians would use the word 'sink' to describe the porcelain beauty in their bathroom.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916935)

So you have one sink and one washbasin.xD

Re: Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917021)

Only a barbarian would wash his hands in the toilet.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916751)

That's like saying "I enjoy getting shafted, so instead of putting pressure on publishers to stop shafting me, I'm going to embrace the shafting business model, and see that very shafting as an advantage."

Not that there's anything wrong with that...!

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917003)

Steam will provide all the condoms and lube to make it as painless as possible. Remember, DRM done right.

Re:Not gonna happen (4, Informative)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#44916791)

Half Life 3? Left for Dead 3? Portal 3? Team Fortress 3?

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917117)

Half Life 3? Left for Dead 3? Portal 3? Team Fortress 3?

First person shooters have historically been terrible on console systems with gamepads. They have to water down the movement and aiming controls to make it work. Still, though, it may work. Consoles are geared towards kids who probably haven't had the experience of PC gaming.

Re:Not gonna happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44917367)

If HL3 would come for exclusive for Linux and their "steam box" for 2-3 months it would be huge raiser in popularity. Then L4D3 for 3-4 months after Christmas season, Portal 3 after that and TF3 after that. All in 3-4 month exclusive periods. Quickly there would be tens of millions playing on Linux.

Re:Not gonna happen (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year ago | (#44917389)

All games with no appeal to the masses.

Re:Not gonna happen (1)

hobarrera (2008506) | about a year ago | (#44916869)

Those that don't have a gaming PC are the target. Or those in search of an upgrade to their current one. It won't replace your PC right now.

The cat is intriguing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916783)

Could it be a man-machine-cat interface to give you feline reflexes at FPS?

Pre-order comes bundled with HL3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916905)

And obligatory: gaben.tv [gaben.tv]

Expectation: Cheap, underpowered, Linux-powered (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916907)

Expecting a fairly small "console" running Linux and sporting hardware that is unsuitable for proper gaming.

At best, we'll see some midrange laptop-grade GPU (750M) but most likely the system will feature processor-integrated GPU with performance that will run 2-3 year old AAA games (and today's indie titles) but not much more.

I sincerely hope I'm proven wrong.

On the other hand, any system with a proper PC GPU would be far too expensive with the GPU alone costing $200 or so and the total cost of the system going well north of $500.

This logo was "stolen" ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44916965)

Kinda the same as the SOLEIL project:
http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php/topic/10894-application-soleil/

Re:This logo was "stolen" ! (1)

black3d (1648913) | about a year ago | (#44917073)

Well, "stolen" is a bit harsh, considering SOLEIL themselves simply appropriated it and have no ownership to the public domain work produced by NASA.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/first_light_prt.htm [nasa.gov]
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/images/content/165490main_fl_blue.jpg [nasa.gov]

To be fair, you could Google a lot of other "Blue Glowing Sphere" images and get closer matches.

They want my input (3, Insightful)

Aboroth (1841308) | about a year ago | (#44917345)

Soon, we’ll be adding you to our design process, so that you can help us shape the future of Steam.

Oh great, because I have some features I've been wanting for a long time, like being able to sell or trade my games to other accounts, or selectively appearing offline to different contacts on steam, or at least not broadcasting what I'm playing to certain people...

Oh, you don't want that kind of input. You don't really give a shit about what I want.

Well screw you then.
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