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IDF Hackers Test Readiness In Israel For Cyberattacks

timothy posted about 7 months ago | from the like-everywhere-else-but-different dept.

Encryption 61

cold fjord points out a profile in Al-Monitor of Israel's cyber-defense group, formed to test the country's defenses to electronic warfare and information theft. Groups, really, since it's run blue-vs-red style, with constant scenario preparation and intrusion attempts. The two (anonymized) leaders of the Blue and Red teams talk about the mind-set and skills that it takes to be in their unit, which they point out is not the place for soda and pizza hijinks. Says "Capt. A": "We are constantly preparing for the next war or the next drill. And in between, we may have some fun dissecting the system and drawing conclusions together. The idea is to instruct the monitoring bodies, [and] to make them understand what they should look for and how to respond."

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Neo Golden Logres (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918593)

It's here it's HERE IT'S HERE!
for your mom (mom) to enjoy!

Your moms a hoar now!

Re:Neo Golden Logres (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 7 months ago | (#44919019)

Really?

a large crystal occurring at the base of a snowpack
or
a fictional Faerûnian deity in Dungeons & Dragons

Re:Neo Golden Logres (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919905)

LOL!

Balanced attack (2)

David Govett (2825317) | about 7 months ago | (#44918631)

Offense and defense.

Re:Balanced attack: blue and red (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918651)

Can't we all just be purple? Or in this case, the chosen purple.

Re:Balanced attack: blue and red (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918683)

Did you mean God's chosen purple?

jews did wtc (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918633)

nevar forgat

Well, of course not! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918641)

...they point out is not the place for soda and pizza hijinks.

I would think it was Manischewitz and matzah! Or is that only for Friday night hacking? Then it's back to pizza and soda *wink* *wink*?

Re:Well, of course not! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919159)

Can you say gefilte fish backwards three times? (That's my root password)

LOLZ, SEC SPITZERS about... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918653)

Yeah, the idf are the criminals. black,blue, and blood-diamond-red, they gunna take slapz!
interesting to note; when, precisely, was the LAST war from whence preparations are made?
you closet racists are UNPREPARED, unless you are talking about hoarding.....
preparation H you pretty-boy-buggers.

try not to nuke yourselves

In other words (2, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 7 months ago | (#44918687)

They're spying on us again, not that they ever stopped. This isn't a 'drill'. It's thinly disguised espionage. But, since we're 'on the same side', it's all okay.

Re:In other words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918777)

Most every human tries to get the upper-hand on others (and the rest of the world), or at minimum not have someone else get he upper-hand on them; so why is the behavior of nations, which is group of humans, be surprising?

Re:In other words (4, Insightful)

gtall (79522) | about 7 months ago | (#44919295)

Jeezes, you have a depth of -1mm. Spying serves a very useful function. It prevents surprises. It was put to good use during the Cold War. The Soviet Union could see what the U.S. was doing and visa versa. It prevent stupid things from happening based on no information or false information. Who cares if Israel spies on the U.S. The U.S. spies on Israel. It helps both side calibrate their actions.

Re:In other words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919607)

The US government spies on me, will they take kindly to me spying on them? It will help both of us calibrate our actions after all..

The US and israel cooperate more than anything (2)

Rujiel (1632063) | about 7 months ago | (#44919679)

..to spy on anyone, including US citizens, information about which the NSA has been caught read handed giving, wholesale and unredacted, to israel. You're ok with this? My, aren't you trusting.

Re:The US and israel cooperate more than anything (2)

Shavano (2541114) | about 7 months ago | (#44920263)

The US government definitely DOES NOT trust Israel and most especially not its spy agency. Otherwise, why do you think Jonathan Pollard is in prison? Why was Lawrence Franklin charged with espionage?

Re:The US and israel cooperate more than anything (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 7 months ago | (#44921163)

Correction: The US government doesn't like it when spies catch them doing something that they shouldn't be doing. In which case they go after said spies. After all, when you know who the spy is, sometimes it's useful to just feed them a bit.

Re:The US and israel cooperate more than anything (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 7 months ago | (#44924423)

...why do you think Jonathan Pollard is in prison?

He was sloppy. He damn near exposed the operation.

Re:In other words (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about 7 months ago | (#44920211)

The U.S. government cares. Every government also has an interest in controlling what other governments know about what they are doing and thinking.

Spying is also destabilising (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44921279)

You use the info to get people favorable in power. Those people represent their own voters less. Democracy is undermined, they flip to become dictatorships.

SURPRISE!

Happened against and again as the US ended up undermining democracies and installing dictators. Latest case of this is Egypt.

"Who cares if Israel spies on the U.S."
NSA provides them the data, they use it to undermine democracy in the USA. That's why you send them 2 billion a year, because nobody can be elected to put an end to it.

Re:In other words (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 7 months ago | (#44924395)

I don't give a damn what governments do to each other. They all bicker with each other, and we are in the crossfire. The problem is that governments conduct their espionage against the citizens. When I said us, I meant us.. This is the "cold war" we are living in now.

Re:In other words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919575)

And they will stick us with the bill on top of the $3 billion we give them.

Re:In other words (2)

Shavano (2541114) | about 7 months ago | (#44920207)

I'll take their word for it that they and every other sigint agency around the world ALSO do intrusion drills against their own systems to see how well they work at foiling external adversaries, such as China, Russia, France, Germany, Great Britain and the USA, and whether they can tell anything about what's hidden in the systems they can't penetrate or that they only THINK they have penetrated.

Re:In other words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44924225)

If only they actually were. USS Liberty and other incidents, (9/11) outstanding.

Why So Serious (0, Troll)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 7 months ago | (#44918785)

Groups, really, since it's run blue-vs-red style, with constant scenario preparation and intrusion attempts. The two (anonymized) leaders of the Blue and Red teams talk about the mind-set and skills that it takes to be in their unit, which they point out is not the place for soda and pizza hijinks.

And with that comment, they just admitted how screwed they are. And the irony is, they probably don't realize it, and even if pointed out (as I will now do), they'll steadfastly deny it.

Being good at hacking requires two things. Firstly, the ability to upload into your skullmeats vast amounts of seemingly meaningless information, trusting that later context will give it meaning and purpose. You need to be able to open up a thousand page tomb, and in under a week, hoover-vac that into your brain. This is the primary required ability for you to be good at hacking. Without it, no matter how much of a creative genius you are, you will find yourself quickly outpaced by your peers who can do this. Computers are enormously complex, and networking them adds yet another layer of complexity. Being able to rapidly absorb and retain a working knowledge of these interactions in complex systems is a job requirement.

However, that is only half the equation. The other half is to be able to see all of that, and yet arrive at a different conclusion than all the other guys. You can be a good administrator or technician if you can simply absorb large amounts of data, but you are going to royally suck at hacking if you arrive at the same conclusions they did. Hackers are both walking encyclopedias, and have a funny habit of belching out random facts and then stringing them together in a way that nobody else has, probably without being aware of it. They pull theories together from dozens of different technical disciplines, finding that thermodynamics and heisenburg uncertainty somehow jam really well with why those styrofoam containers of ramen, regardless of the amount of water put in them, invariably overflow in the microwave. And they'll do this while working out some chunk of complex code in their head absent-mindedly.

You cannot achieve this zen-like state of abstract concentration needed to hack while taking what you're doing as seriously as this guy. You can't have a military attitude to what you're doing -- you can't be focused on the risks, on the enemy, on the stakes. You need to be able to take all of that, and forget it. The only thing you need to do, is solve the problem. You need to work that problem, and you need to do it with a style of thinking that... frankly, scares the hell out of people in authority or in the military... because they don't understand how you could care less who you're fighting, as long as you get to fight back in some way that's.... wait for it... Nifty.

Israel... I like you, I really do. So please, reassign this guy to something more in line with his attitude... like ordinance technician. Don't put him in charge of a cyberwarfare unit... that's like putting Martha Stewart in charge of flight operations on a carrier. It's just sooo not playing to their strengths.

Re:Why So Serious (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44918911)

I think you may want to comment on the actual article, rather than the summary. eg.

Capt. A. notes, "The best way to break into a system is not by running head-on into it. Rather, the most sophisticated attacks, the ones that you can brag about, are those that take advantage of a hidden security hole. A few months ago, there was a wet exercise simulating a cyber attack. For several hours, we were hitting end-point nodes, trying to find a way to break in. Our intrusion attempts were seen by soldiers watching us across all army units.

and

However, it is the way of thinking and the personal knowledge that I deem most important. We seek to impart the value of creative thinking to all our soldiers. You have to constantly think of new ways to attack. That’s why we recruit young people with fresh and original thinking. At the end of the day, hacking is like any other knowledge. With time, one can become rather conservative and adopt a fixed way of thinking."

Great. (1)

Type44Q (1233630) | about 7 months ago | (#44918899)

cold fjord points out a profile

Great, now even blatant shills are submitting content.

Re:Great. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919589)

Although it is a great story, your comment seems to indicate that you may be suffering from NSA story fatigue. Maybe you will enjoy one of the other fine stories recently submitted by Cold Fjord instead of this one. Have fun!

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Re:Great. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919629)

Cold Fjord, is that you?

hello cold fjord. (1)

Rujiel (1632063) | about 7 months ago | (#44919721)

I think you forgot to log into your main account. Either that or you expect us to believe that you have minions and fans at the ready to drop large lists of your propaganda threads, which is truly charming! You should bring your sock puppet Jeremiah cornelius into this, he's totally convincing.. just kidding.

great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (2)

Rujiel (1632063) | about 7 months ago | (#44918931)

I guess when your country does things like create stuxnet, you could probably expect a repercussion or two, huh?

Re:great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919119)

Yeah and Netanyahu said 911 - that is the death of 3000 US civilians - was good for Israel

Re:great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44921171)

Yeah and Netanyahu said 911 - that is the death of 3000 US civilians - was good for Israel

I hope you are being sarcastic - it is a snopes material.

Re:great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919837)

I guess when your country does things like create stuxnet, you could probably expect a repercussion or two, huh?

Correction: Stuxnet was the repercussion, it was Iran's nuclear program that was the provocation.

Iran nuclear report: IAEA claims Tehran working on advanced warhead [theguardian.com]
Q&A: Iran nuclear issue [bbc.co.uk]

Re:great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919981)

Correction: Stuxnet was the repercussion, it was Iran's nuclear program that was the provocation.

Yes, and Irans nuclear program was not a repercussion, they started the program for electricity production. Dream on.

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (3, Informative)

Rujiel (1632063) | about 7 months ago | (#44920247)

Iran actually offered to pay the US to enrich its uranium so it wouldn't need to seek the ability. The US of course refused. Not to mention, some Iran's top nuclear scientists now were trained at MIT back when iran was In the US favor. But even if iran were seeking it as a weapon, I can play the "retaliation" card too: their nuclear program is payback for our selling Saddam gas and giving him the Intel to use it on Iranian soldiers.

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44921295)

You seem to know a lot of things that are false. Iran rejected the proposal that other countries enrich uranium for it.

Iranian diplomat rejects nuclear fuel-swap proposal [telegraph.co.uk]

Iran's envoy to the UN nuclear agency has made clear Tehran will not accept a western nuclear fuel-swap proposal intended to address concerns over its nuclear programme.

Egypt was the country that supplied Iraq with it's initial chemical weapons and know-how, not the US.

Report: Egypt's help crucial to Iraq's gas attacks [onlineathens.com]

NEW YORK - Egypt secretly supplied crucial help - both technology and expert manpower - to the chemical weapons program of Saddam Hussein's Iraq in the 1980s, U.S. arms investigators have found.

The CIA's Iraq Survey Group says Egyptian specialists helped the Iraqis make "technological leaps" on poison gas at the height of the Iran-Iraq War, when Baghdad used nerve agents to kill thousands of Iranian soldiers and Iranian and Iraqi civilians. ...

The Cairo government rejected those earlier allegations, and Egypt's Washington embassy reiterated that denial when asked by about the CIA report. But U.N. arms inspectors who scoured Iraq's files and facilities in the 1990s corroborated the U.S. finding.

You're playing the "retaliation card" against the wrong country over a war that ended about 25 years ago. It was Iraq that attacked Iran, not the US. It was Egypt that helped Iraq with its chemical weapons, not the US. Iran is threatening mainly Israel, not the US, and occasionally Europe... not to mention its neighbors in the Gulf.

I'm puzzled how you manage to be wrong so consistently.

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44921749)

Explain to me Mr Cold Fjord why a country that IS a signatory to NPT should not be allowed to develop and pursue nuclear energy?
  This is expressly allowed by the NPT.

Whereas Israel happens to not be in NPT and possesses nuclear weapons and launch capability, and has started that they will fire on everybody (Europe, Russia, USA, China, ...) when they are "threatened". Look up the Samson option.

I'd rather Israel joins the NPT and gets rid of their nuclear weapons OR we let Iran have the bomb too. MAD worked fine during cold war.

I find neither of the two countries particularly trustworthy to have nukes, BTW.

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44922089)

It isn't tough to figure out. It's fine for Iran to build a genuine nuclear power infrastructure. Unfortunately Iran has been caught developing plans and components for nuclear weapons that fit their missiles. They have been doing their work in secret, and in special militarily hardened facilities that they have resisted showing to International inspectors. They are trying to build up a large uranium refining capability, but not so much for actual power plants. They have been doing this while the whole time they have been threatening Israel with destruction. (Some will falsely claim that the Iranians were just "misunderstood" or "mistranslated.") Not all of their interest is genuinely peaceful.

Are you actually suggesting that Israel might strike back at countries that attack it? Shocking! What other country would do that besides all of them?

If you think it's OK for Iran to have nukes, then you should get ready for most of the Middle East to go nuclear, starting with the Saudis who already have Chinese made long range missiles. The Turks probably wouldn't be far behind, and Egypt and the Gulf states will follow as best they can. Nobody trusts Iran. Of course a nuclear Turkey would cause problems with Greece and Russia. A nuclear Iran might lead some of the old Soviet republics that are now separate countries to bring back the nukes that they did away with.

Now you want to risk that because you don't want Israel, a country that has been repeatedly threatened with genocide in multiple wars by attackers that greatly outnumber it, to be able to defend itself? Or do you think the region has suddenly gone peaceful, with love in its hearts for the Israelis? Who do you think the Syrian chemical weapons were stockpiled to use against? Here is a hint: Mein Kampf is a big seller in the Middle East, including Turkey.

If you don't think Israel is more trustworthy compared to Iran, your perception is faulty.
 

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#44931555)

Exactly which evidence points to Iranian nuclear weapons? The available "evidence" is spotty at best. It was enough with poor Colin Powell losing his face in front of the UN presenting faulty evidence as a justification to war. Let's not repeat that.

As for the Samson option, it means when facing an existential threat from, say, Egypt, Israel would fire their nukes at others. This means friendly nations and innocent cities too. Everybody. Tel Aviv gets the bomb? Fine, London, Berlin, Prague, Washington, New York, Los Angeles, go up in flames, too. Game-theory wise it makes sense: create a huge incentive to ensure Israel stays untouched. But otherwise it's completely psychotic.

As for not trusting either country with nukes, please do read up on recent history of the region. In the case of Israel they have done preemptive attacks on their neighbours (e.g. Egypt) and bombed friendly forces as well (USS Vincennes, UN observers, etc). In the case of Iran, ever since US+UK oil interests destabilized the country and blowback resulted in an Islamic rule, the country has been totalitarian to varying degrees. Should Iran become nuclear weaponized, squeezing the country further would get them backed to a corner and desperate measures might be seen as an only option.

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (1)

erikkemperman (252014) | about 7 months ago | (#44921751)

You are deluding yourself if you believe that Iraq in the 80s or Egypt anywhere during the last couple decades would be able to do anything like what you suggest without US knowledge and support.

There was a promising initiative by Turkey and Brazil toward a nuke free Middle East, but it was shot down by the USG because of course Israel can't be expected to do precisely what everyone is demanding of Iran.

The US is in no position to wave the NPT in anyone's face seeing as they provide know how and materials to almost half of the non signatories..

PS good to see you learned to post anonymously in your own submitted stories, cold fjord

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44921961)

You are deluding yourself if you believe that Iraq in the 80s or Egypt anywhere during the last couple decades would be able to do anything like what you suggest without US knowledge and support.

Knowledge? Most major powers in the world probably knew that Egypt was making chemical weapons, including Russia/Soviet Union. It was the Soviet Union that gave them their first chemical weapons anyway. Their neighbors and regional powers no doubt knew. No support from the US was needed since the Soviet Union gave them the weapons. Any country with a chemical industry could make some war gasses. A country that can make modern insecticides can make nerve gas. So you are blaming the US for a problem started by the Soviet Union, continued by Egypt, and made worse when the Egyptians spread chemical weapons to Iraq and Syria.

There was a promising initiative by Turkey and Brazil toward a nuke free Middle East, but it was shot down by the USG because of course Israel can't be expected to do precisely what everyone is demanding of Iran.

Did Turkey and Brazil intended to do anything about the chemical weapons? Well, neither idea was going to go anywhere. Iraq wouldn't have bought in. Iran wouldn't have bought in either. There are probably other countries that wouldn't have bought in, such as Syria. Iran and Israel got along well until the Iranian Islamic revolution after which Iran decided to be Israel's enemy and threaten genocide. There is little liklihood that the Turkish / Brazilian initiative would have gone anywhere.

Re: great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (1)

erikkemperman (252014) | about 7 months ago | (#44922143)

So you are blaming the US for a problem started by the Soviet Union, continued by Egypt, and made worse when the Egyptians spread chemical weapons to Iraq and Syria

Are their other guily parties? Sure. All I was saying is that a military dictatorship such as the Egyptians used to suffer, which was completely dependent on US diplomatic and military support (and likely still is, since the latest military coup) would never dream of doing any dealings that would offend their, eh, benefactor. Besides, did you forget that the US were squarely on the Iraqi side of that whole Iraq-Iran debacle?

Did Turkey and Brazil intended to do anything about the chemical weapons?

No, because it was an initiative for a Middle East without nuclear weapons.

Well, neither idea was going to go anywhere. Iraq wouldn't have bought in. Iran wouldn't have bought in either. There are probably other countries that wouldn't have bought in, such as Syria. .

The Turkish/Brazilian initiative had Iran on board: see this for example [theguardian.com] . They did not need Iraq on board, though I think they might have been.

Iran and Israel got along well until the Iranian Islamic revolution after which Iran decided to be Israel's enemy and threaten genocide.

Iran and Israel got along fine as long as Iran was a Western backed brutal dictatorship. The fact that the revolution which ended that was an Islamic one was as predictable as it was unfortunate (in my opinion) -- for the Iranian people, that is, in the long run. When did Iran threaten genocide? Are you aware that one of the largest Jewish populations live in Iran, rather happily and unoppressed I might add? Please don't bring up that discredited mistranslation on the part of their previous leader (who is a nutjob, no argument there).

There is little liklihood that the Turkish / Brazilian initiative would have gone anywhere.

You got that right. But that's only because, shall we say, certain non-signatories of the Non-Profileration Treaty, made sure it was nipped in the bud, as it would actually impose restrictions on their nuclear facilities as well as the Iranians'.

Re:great content from israel's #1 fan cold fjord (1)

Uberbah (647458) | about 7 months ago | (#44921201)

Correction: Stuxnet was the repercussion, it was Iran's nuclear program that was the provocation.

Repeating Big Lies doesn't make them true, it just makes you a bigger liar. Because even the IDF and Pentagon [pbs.org] will tell you Iran doesn't actually have the nuclear weapons program that both countries are threatening to bomb Iran for having.

But even if Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons, that would be the "repercussion" for Israel's 200+ nuclear warheads.

ma8e (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919021)

With any s0rt What we've known

mention Israel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919059)

And this place goes all Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
I had no idea slashdot was so full of haters and conspiracy theorists.

Re:mention Israel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919659)

And this place goes all Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
I had no idea slashdot was so full of haters and conspiracy theorists.

The Inconvenient truth: Israel = apartheid.

Re:mention Israel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44920193)

Mindless slogans are very convenient for shallow thinkers.

Re:mention Israel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44921765)

That's not a mindless comment.
Israel are the new Nazis...
Ironic isn't it?

Re:mention Israel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44922947)

Congratulations!
you won the Godwin prize!
I'm sure you're so proud of yourself, being such a mindful, insightful, thinker and all.
Why bother with apartheid, when you can just go straight to the sewer.
Have fun down there.
Thanks for playing.

conspiracy theorists, no. (2)

Rujiel (1632063) | about 7 months ago | (#44919741)

Mindless disinformation spam.. yes. Threads about the NSA or Israel are always full of distractionary anonymous shitposting. Ever wonder why?

Re:conspiracy theorists, no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44920027)

So was 911 good for Israel, as Netanyahu claims?

Re:conspiracy theorists, no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44920243)

Who cares what Netanyahu claims. He's an asshole.
What does that have to do with the story about preparing against cyber-attacks?
Nothing, it's just another excuse to vent some hatred.
You illustrate my point beautifully, thanks for playing.

Re:conspiracy theorists, no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44922625)

Netanyahu happens to be the leader of Israel - who receives obeisant applause from all US politicos when when he comes to speak. They obviously care a great deal about what he says. He also said 'don't worry about the US. It can be moved easily' in what he thought was off the record conversation with Israelis. He is the one trying to trap the US into attacking Iran, for Israel's benefit. He may be an asshole, as you say, but he is very dangerous and very powerful.

Re:conspiracy theorists, no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44925303)

All this has *what* to do about Israel's preparations against cyber-attacks?
Nothing, That was the point of this thread.

Being led around by the nose is a problem with the US. It needs to be taken up with our govt.
It doesn't matter weather it's the Israelis, Saudis, the Egyptians, and I'm sure others.
Don't think for a minute the Saudis and Egyptians aren't pushing us to attack Iran just as badly as the Israelis.
Any depth of reading of foreign relations exposes this truth.
The problem is Here not There.
Stop letting ourselves off the hook and stop blaming others for our flaws. The only power anyone has over us is the power that we give them.
The only thing that makes him more dangerous than any right wing hawk, is the fact that Israel really is at war where missiles really fall on them, hawks feed on war, it gives them legitimacy.

Stuxnet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919233)

So in other words, they're unleashing another Stuxnet on the world? Fuck off Israel.

captcha: disciple

Is it just me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919323)

Or am I not the only one who thought now this is the perfect time to strike using the dreaded word' 'cyber' attack.
The red team likely will think you are one of them and help you and the blue team wont sound an alarm when they should.

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44919759)

Why are the IDF even bothering to pay for this positive media coverage where they have the impenetrable super-unhackable IT infrastructure?

I think they are just as vulnerable as everyone else.

A very dark future awaits us. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44922203)

Israel is eventually less interested in cyber-attacks, compared to real-world attacks. As soon as the series of whatever "springs" topple the targeted mid-east regimes and disband their thoroughly incompetent, yet still significant standing armies, the David-starred Merkava tanks will be rolling across the region to occupy all the lands of so-called "Greater Israel" spanning between the rivers of Nile and the Tiger and Euphrates. Over a hundred million arabs and muslims will be forcibly displaced to make place for jewish settlements and kibbutzim. This will eventually result in a huge war, possibly a world war between China and Iran (maybe even Russia) in the defensive corner and the USA-UK-Germany-IL, ie. the axis of zionism.

The american warhawk "christian zionists", more precisely described as millenialist / kilialist heretics, just cannot wait to see that day come when Jesus returns to judge us in the form of many H-bomb fireballs... The recent victory of Merkel in Germany means the wild dream of "Greater Israel" is closer to being realized than even, because she has already overtaken the USA as the foremost financial aid and military gear supplier of Tel-Aviv. Why do they need submarines with extra-large torpedo tubes that are only good for launching nuclear-tipped criuse missiles? Never mind, just keep producing them, dear Krupp-werke warft! There are 6 more of the Dolphin class to deliver for free and they are impatient!

Re:A very dark future awaits us. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#44930457)

WOW!

where did you get what you are smoking!

WOW!

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