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Apple Sells Nine Million iPhones Over Weekend

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the a-lot-of-units dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Apple managed to sell nine million iPhones over the weekend, with the company claiming its initial supply of high-end iPhone 5S units completely sold out. Apple didn't sell out of the new iPhone 5C, its plastic-cased (and cheaper) alternative to the iPhone 5S; models are still available for shipment within 24 hours from Apple's online store. And the iPhone 5S selling out is no surprise: in the weeks ahead of the new iPhones' launch, rumors persisted that the initial production run of the device was relatively small in scope, which would make it far easier for Apple to sell out of its first batch. But how many iPhone 5C units did Apple actually manage to sell? In August, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo suggested that Apple would produce just over 5 million iPhone 5S units ahead of the device's launch weekend; if that number's accurate, and Apple sold every single one, it would mean Apple sold roughly 4 million iPhone 5C units in order to reach that 9-million-sold figure for both models. That's an impressive figure for any smartphone, of course, and it could quiet some of the naysayers who have spent the past several months suggesting that Apple's best years are behind it."

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none of them are being held right!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924113)

The "C" in 5C absolutely stands for Crap.

Re: none of them are being held right!! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924127)

C has already been for cookie.

Re: none of them are being held right!! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924605)

That's good enough for me

Wow... (1, Troll)

iamvego (785090) | about a year ago | (#44924121)

... that's a LOT of conflict minerals!

*sigh* (0, Troll)

ericloewe (2129490) | about a year ago | (#44924137)

I look forward to the moment where I first see someone with a gold iPhone.

I'll make sure to stop, point at them and their phone, and burst out laughing.

Re:*sigh* (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924249)

How about a platinum iPhone inlaid with diamond instead?

(The diamonds are useful for inadvertantly destroying the "Gorilla glas" of Android phones, as well as for scratching little swastikas into the glass of all too cheap sports cars.)

Re:*sigh* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924267)

Laughing at the ghetto-wealthy is not such a bright idea. They might be packing.

Re:*sigh* (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924271)

I'll let you laugh at mine! Fuck all you haters. My glorious gold iphone is the shit :)

Actually, it's pretty hard to tell it's the gold one because it spends its time in this sweet leather wallet case that looks like a pocket reference. http://twelvesouth.com/products/bookbook_iphone5/

They will stand their ground. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924391)

Are you sure you want to pull a Trayvon on them?

Re:*sigh* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924433)

You should get that mental illness checked out

Re:*sigh* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924463)

That would be very mature and intelligent.

iPhone now comes in "beige" ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924627)

I look forward to the moment where I first see someone with a gold iPhone. I'll make sure to stop, point at them and their phone, and burst out laughing.

If you are trying to mess with them it might be better to just say "Oh, the iPhone comes is beige now". ;-)

Maybe it's just me, but... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924139)

The launch numbers for this phone are totally dwarfed by the news of GTA V's numbers.
Yeah, yeah, different industry, but still, side by side Apple's numbers look weak.

That's true. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924209)

Especially when you consider that while you can probably steal somebody's phone in GTA V, you can't play GTA on your new iPhone.

What's the point of getting one then?

Re:That's true. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924449)

you can't play GTA on your new iPhone.

Yes [apple.com] you [apple.com] can. [apple.com]

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (5, Informative)

Above (100351) | about a year ago | (#44924213)

iPhone 5s "T-Moble Contract Free" prices, are $649, $749, and $849, depending on the amount of storage. See iPhone 5s [apple.com] . The iPhone 5C prices are $549, $649. See iPhone 5c [apple.com] .

Using an average price of $649, and 9 million units sold, that's $5.84 billion in revenue. That doesn't could any accessories (cases, car chargers, etc) or Apple Care sales.

GTA V made a relatively puny $1 billion. You know, chump change.

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924523)

I have to post anon because I work for AT&T. As normal this time of year all employees are on red alert, no new vacations can be scheduled because of the iphone release, and many of use have to go on mandatory overtime. Apple, realizing it was an incremental update, laid down some new rules for us. Many of our call centers could not sell it, and we had to force the majority of users that normally called into to order it, to use our website. Oddly enough our response to the new Iphone was less than stellar as it had been in previous years, and we saw very few customers seeing it as a must have device. And we were shipped absurdly small amounts of units so we could sell out quickly. You can still get them in places like Best Buy, Radio Shack and Walmart. Plus 99.9 percent bought the phone at a subsidized price.

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924587)

That is true because phones, like software, can be copied at no cost.

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (0)

idji (984038) | about a year ago | (#44924607)

Riot sold SOFTWARE and Apple sold HARDWARE. that 1 billion from Riot might have made them more money than Apple's 5.84G$

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924255)

Hmm? Given that they are selling for at a guess $700 average sale price they've made $6.3bn, compared to rock star's $800m

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924643)

Marginal cost for the next copy of GTA is probably low compared to the marginal cost of producing the next iphone ($300-400)

gross revenue numbers are not meaningful in this case

Re:Maybe it's just me, but... (0)

war4peace (1628283) | about a year ago | (#44924667)

What?

9 million devices sold, with arguably 100 USD net profit for each - that's 9 billion dollars just like that.
Make that only 20 bucks profit per phone (which I highly doubt) - that gives close to 2 billion dollars profit.

So... it's quite the other way around.

First Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924141)

Nailed it.

Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0, Troll)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year ago | (#44924159)

>> it could quiet some of the naysayers who have spent the past several months suggesting that Apple's best years are behind it

Not me. I'd love to know who is still buying Apple devices when Android gizmos do pretty much the same thing for a fraction of the cost.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (5, Insightful)

DJCouchyCouch (622482) | about a year ago | (#44924181)

Apple's been dying for over 30 years.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1, Interesting)

cyfer2000 (548592) | about a year ago | (#44924227)

Apple has been killed by IBM PC, Compaq, DELL, Palm, Nokia, RIM... Now, it will be killed by Samsung once again.

Feeble minds. (5, Insightful)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | about a year ago | (#44924453)

People forget when Microsoft injected cash in Apple when it was going nowhere.

Mightier companies than Apple have fallen, and unfortunately for them it begins to look like they are living from a "perception marketing bubble".

Remember Nokia? It was washing the floor with the competition. Apple did very well to change some of the paradigms of the mobile phone platform, but they have contributed very little and the release of "cheaper" iPhones recognizes that the only differentiator now is in price not in features.

And that is the problem for Apple: to keep charging for a phone that does pretty much the same as any other you have to resort to gimmicks: selling golden phones for example, in technology that can take you only so far.

Proof: people wanted a phone just because it was golden. That is not innovation, is hype, sooner or later the bubble will burst and all the chickens will come home to roost.

Re:Feeble minds. (1, Insightful)

RoboJ1M (992925) | about a year ago | (#44924513)

The C stands for Completely Out Of Ideas perhaps? ;)
It's all about the race to zero now I guess.
Sadly the race to the Infinite Inches Screen also continues.

Re:Feeble minds. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924639)

And you keep forgetting that Apple didn't need the cash at the time.

This happened right after NeXT bought Apple for a really cheap.

What NeXT, now Apple, needed was MS Office for Mac OS X.
Apple payed Microsoft for this by trading them stocks in Apple for cheap.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

cagraham (3027657) | about a year ago | (#44924185)

Besides the 9M people mentioned above? ...

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (2, Interesting)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year ago | (#44924273)

>> Besides the 9M people mentioned above?

That's the weird thing to me. Within my social circle of a couple of hundred folks, no one is tweeting, facebooking, or otherwise announcing that they've run out and bought the new phone. In fact, I've seen a few folks writing about this being the first upgrade cycle they might sit out, e.g., "hoping the '6' gives us something to look forward to"

I have to wonder if Apple is "channel stuffing" a bit here. For example:
http://gigaom.com/2013/05/09/what-apple-really-means-when-it-says-it-has-sold-a-product/ [gigaom.com]
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-verizon-iphone-2013-7 [businessinsider.com]

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (4, Insightful)

dugancent (2616577) | about a year ago | (#44924385)

I know plenty of people that upgraded, just none of them bragged about in Facebook or Twitter, because they know no one really gives a shit what phone they are carrying.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1, Insightful)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year ago | (#44924497)

>> because they know no one really gives a shit what phone they are carrying. ...and that's a big reason why I think Apple's in trouble long term. If no one cares that you have an Apple phone anymore, even more people are going to drop back to commodity - usually Android - phones.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924647)

Yea, we know. Apple with record sales = dying, but Blackberry with a billion dollar loss yet they will pull though.

Yawn.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about a year ago | (#44924421)

Depends on the product. For a product that is unavailable anywhere to purchase, shipped == sold. I'm hearing stories that the 5S is sold out everywhere you go. The 5C is another story. Apple does have a much clearer picture of sold in their own stores. For other retailers it is less likely that they will have accurate numbers right now.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

harperska (1376103) | about a year ago | (#44924429)

See, that's the funny thing about observer bias. If you are yourself unlikely to be in the market for the new iPhone, your social circle is probably skewed towards the same demographic as yourself, and therefore not a good indicator for the actual demand. I, on the other hand, have heard plenty of chatter on social media, as well as in actual in-person conversations about people planning on getting the new phone, whether to get the 5C or 5S, etc.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

cagraham (3027657) | about a year ago | (#44924477)

That's certainly possible, it isn't an usual practice among device makers. I'm personally content keeping my 5 and waiting for next year's upgrade, but I know a lot of people with the 4S that are pretty excited.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Karlt1 (231423) | about a year ago | (#44924537)

That's the weird thing to me. Within my social circle of a couple of hundred folks, no one is tweeting, facebooking, or otherwise announcing that they've run out and bought the new phone. In fact, I've seen a few folks writing about this being the first upgrade cycle they might sit out, e.g., "hoping the '6' gives us something to look forward to"

Well since Random Slashdot Poster (565205) took a pulse of his 200 FB friends it must mean Apple is doomed.....

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#44924451)

Besides the 9M people mentioned above? ...

"9M units sold" != 9M people buying one.

There were already a shit-ton of these things on Ebay by Saturday afternoon.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about a year ago | (#44924479)

Someone bought an iPhone and out it on eBay. Did Apple get their money or not?

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#44924531)

Or, someone bought 30 iPhones and hoped to sell them for a premium once Apple ran out.

I'm not denying that Apple made money, merely pointing out that "9 million units sold" does not mean 9 million people got one.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

cagraham (3027657) | about a year ago | (#44924591)

Definitely true. I was using that as a rough correlation. Apple does limit the amount of phones a single person can purchase however (I think the max is 2 during the first weekend), so I doubt the number is vastly different.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (2)

jellomizer (103300) | about a year ago | (#44924285)

9999/10000 is a fraction.

Actually there isn't that much difference between the two. It comes down to if you have Android Apps, then you stay on Android, or if you have iOS apps then you stay on iOS.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (3, Insightful)

Jeff Flanagan (2981883) | about a year ago | (#44924599)

>Actually there isn't that much difference between the two. It comes down to if you have Android Apps,
>then you stay on Android, or if you have iOS apps then you stay on iOS.

I think you make an interesting point, but I'm not sure how many people it's true for. Phone apps are so inexpensive that I could buy IOS equivalents of all my Android apps for well under $100 if Apple offered a better product for my use case than the large-screen Samsung Note-series phones I use. I'm not entrenched like I am with Windows on the PC.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (4, Insightful)

zieroh (307208) | about a year ago | (#44924309)

Not me. I'd love to know who is still buying Apple devices when Android gizmos do pretty much the same thing for a fraction of the cost.

What you're experiencing is called cognitive dissonance. The idea that other people could prefer something that you yourself do not approve of can be difficult for those who cling to their beliefs as if they were some kind of religion. But companies aren't gods, and the choice of smart phone isn't a faith. They are products, and different people will make different choices based on what they value. Some will choose simply for the size or apparent superiority of the feature list, and others will choose based on finesse or ease any of a number of other factors. Those are their choices, and the fact that you made a different choice does not in any way mean that your choice should apply to everyone else.

Perhaps a bit of introspection on your part as to why you hold your beliefs so dear would be helpful.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924389)

The same can be applied to Apple zealots like yourself. When there are superior products available for less money, why buy Apple/

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924403)

The same can be applied to Apple zealots like yourself. When there are superior products available for less money, why buy Apple/

Because it's not a superior product.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

MikeDataLink (536925) | about a year ago | (#44924585)

Did you actually read one word of the article above???? If you did, did you actually try to understand it????

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (2)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a year ago | (#44924617)

>>>> who is still buying Apple
>> you're experiencing...cognitive dissonance

Nah - I know individuals are buying, but I really I want to know which demographics are buying: existing Apple customers, new customers, age groups (seems like Harleys and iPhones are becoming Baby Boomer staples), income levels, etc.

You have a low enough UID to remember (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924677)

when ANY sort of criticism of Apple here on Slashdot meant an immediate moderation down to -1.

But companies aren't gods, ....

Apple has this brand loyalty that very few other companies have. As a matter of fact, it was actually a case study in B school.

Apple did what many companies dream of - have people make a product as part of their identity.

Harley Davidson and some fashion designers have also achieved it.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924349)

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

fatgraham (307614) | about a year ago | (#44924355)

That fraction being 105/100 ?

The sony xperia costs more than the iphone 5s from O2 in the UK...

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

beltsbear (2489652) | about a year ago | (#44924383)

Android gizmos have average build quality, good specs, lower quality software and poor long term support. Apple iPhones have better build quality, good specs, higher quality software and excellent long term support. Apple takes usually years to 'orphan' an older device. IOS 7 runs on iPhone 4, while that device is only three years old, in the Android world getting a 3 year old device to run the latest version of Android usually does not happen.

iPhone 5s/5c more likely to break... (4, Insightful)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year ago | (#44924431)

Android gizmos have average build quality, good specs, lower quality software and poor long term support. Apple iPhones have better build quality, good specs, higher quality software and excellent long term support. Apple takes usually years to 'orphan' an older device. IOS 7 runs on iPhone 4, while that device is only three years old, in the Android world getting a 3 year old device to run the latest version of Android usually does not happen.

If you're the proud owner of a new iPhone 5S or iPhone 5C -- or if you're thinking about buying one -- be sure to handle it with care. Durability tests suggests the new models are more likely to break if you drop them, compared to previous iPhone models.

The new phones were tested by SquareTrade, a provider of protection plans for gadgets. They also tested several other competing smartphones to see which ones best withstand drops, dunks under water, and other common hazards. Its finding: The latest iPhones aren't as durable as last year's iPhone 5.

The biggest loser, however, was Samsung's Galaxy S4, which failed to work after being submerged in water and being dropped 5 feet off the ground, according to San Francisco-based SquareTrade.

The phone that withstood SquareTrade's torture test best was Google Inc.'s Moto X. The Moto X is the first phone designed with the Internet company as Motorola's new owner. Released in August, the Moto X is also the first smartphone assembled in the U.S.

"We were expecting that at least one of the new iPhone models would up its game, but surprisingly, it was the Moto X that proved most forgiving of accidents," said Ty Shay, chief marketing officer at SquareTrade.

Officials from Apple Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. and Google Inc. didn't immediately return email messages for comment.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57604082/new-iphone-5s-iphone-5c-may-be-more-likely-to-break/ [cbsnews.com]

Re:iPhone 5s/5c more likely to break... (4, Interesting)

beltsbear (2489652) | about a year ago | (#44924575)

Good point except the article finds Apples greatest competitor to be worse. Also part of the test that hurt the new iPhones score is the 'slide' test which is totally irrelevant as almost everyone has these phones in cases which reduce sliding to almost nothing. I have owned every iPhone, put every one in a case and never broke them even after 5 foot falls onto concrete. I do not even use those super heavy duty cases like the Otterbox, just a simple rubber sleeve.

Re: Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924555)

iOS products have total shit product support. Apple works haed to evangelize third party developers to build and update their apps to use the bleading edge of the API. Then they make sure the new OS is only installable on a small number of the older devices.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924583)

I'm still going to stick with my HP WebOS phone, it might still make a comeback.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924399)

> Android gizmos do pretty much the same thing

Can Android do real-time audio processing yet? Or do I have to wait a hundred years for that feature?

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#44924471)

> Android gizmos do pretty much the same thing

Can Android do real-time audio processing yet?

Hell, I'd pay for a ROM that let me turn my old 'Droid devices into useful musical instruments. SPC is about the only Android music-creation app I've found (thus far) that doesn't completely suck.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924529)

Not me. I'd love to know who is still buying Apple devices when Android gizmos do pretty much the same thing for a fraction of the cost.

I'd love to know who is still buying steaks when burgers do pretty much the same thing for a fraction of the cost.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924557)

Why did Eliot Spitzer spend $10,000 on an escort when a hobo is a fraction of the cost.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (1)

jovius (974690) | about a year ago | (#44924543)

People who don't care about gizmos, and who buy themselves into the Apple universe? It's funny how Apple has managed to create the "just phone". My uneducated guess is that for many the Apple devices are the tickets for easier living, although the paradise island is inclusive - but still the perceived cost is less than the manufactured (and also many ways real) satisfaction.

The strategy is unique: Apple keeps customers in a slow IV drip of improvements; provokes emotions from all sides and satisfies them in a torturing pace. Apparently that works. It's like a never ending strip tease.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (4, Interesting)

tgibbs (83782) | about a year ago | (#44924597)

Probably the same kind of people who buy Macs, even though Dell computers do the same thing for a fraction of the cost
Or the people who buy a Mercedes Benz, even though a Hyundai does the same thing for a fraction of the cost.

Of course, while all of these products do generally the same thing, the user experience can be quite different for people who notice this sort of thing.
For example, Apple is very concerned about conveying a touch experience that creates the illusion that the user is interacting directly with elements of the display, so Apple puts a lot of effort into minimizing the lag between touch input and response. For example, the previous generation, the iPhone 5, has half the latency of the fastest Android device [appglimpse.com] . And the iPhone 5s is benchmarking twice as fast as the iPhone 5 for some functions.

For some people, this sort of thing makes a big difference. They may not be able to put their finger on it, but they know that Apple's devices are more enjoyable to use than other devices that do the "same thing," just as a Mercedes is more enjoyable to drive than a Hyundai.

But while you'll spend a great deal more for a Mercedes, you can buy the iPhone 5s at nearly the same price as top-of-the-line competitors. This Apple's big achievement with the iPhone, and Apple continues to reap these huge sales numbers year after year--the ability to deliver a premium quality product at a price that is competitive with the knock-offs.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924645)

My kids want iPhones, because they like iOS. My wife & I have Android phones, but they still want iPhones. Not sure yet if they'll actually get them, though; maybe if they save enough to pay the difference between what I think is reasonable & the iPhone.

Re:Sorry - Apple is still dying. (2)

jbolden (176878) | about a year ago | (#44924659)

Well the Japanese, rich Chinese, the people on expensive plans in Europe and something like 80% of American postpay customers. People for whom "pretty much the same thing" isn't good enough and had no intention of buying the Androids that were only "a fraction of the cost".

Huge leap of logic (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924161)

"That's an impressive figure for any smartphone, of course, and it could quiet some of the naysayers who have spent the past several months suggesting that Apple's best years are behind it."

Yeah... no. There's nothing interesting or revolutionary about the iPhone 5. Apple's best years came about when they were putting together easy, integrated user experiences for common tasks that were light-years beyond what anyone else was making available on the market. Right now it doesn't seem like anyone at Apple is thinking about that.

Re:Huge leap of logic (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about a year ago | (#44924327)

What is new and revolutionary that came out of the tech industry in the past 50 years?

A bunch of incremental changes. Leading to the next step better. And every once and awhile a step back because they can do something useful and cheaper, and get a broad consumer market out of it.

fragmentation (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924165)

Apple's finally about to start feeling what androids dealing with for years. For the longest time all iphone user's have been able to balk at android headsets running versions of android many versions behind. Now that the iphone line has gotten so long older phone's are starting to chug and eventually won't be updated. That's when the glory's gone.

Re:fragmentation (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924251)

oh yes, they are going to feel it any time now. The day one adoption of iOS was only 35%. http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/19/ios-7-adoption-already-as-high-as-35-in-one-day-apple-and-developers-reap-the-rewards/

Re:fragmentation (2)

watice (1347709) | about a year ago | (#44924301)

To be fair, their record is pretty good on that issue. The iphone 4's were updated, & so were the 4S to ios7. That's more than 2 models back, or more than 3 years back.

Re:fragmentation (1, Interesting)

aaarrrgggh (9205) | about a year ago | (#44924313)

Are you kidding or what?! Android fragmentation (was) an issue with newly released devices and units that are less than a year old. Anybody that is able to keep a smartphone for four years today is a rare case.

With the iPhone you get iOS 7 support for a 3-year old phone model (which granted could be purchased a month ago); the youngest phone sold new that is not supported by iOS 7 is the 3GS, which hasn't been available for a year, and when it was available it was free with contract.

I got a kick out of the summary as well... why throw in analyst garbage like that. According to several analysis, the US sales of the 5S outnumber the 5C by 3.7:1, and in Japan it is closer to 5:1. Globally, it is likely that there were about 7MM 5S and 2MM 5C units sold... which is a hell of a lot more than the 5 sold on launch, and also a lot more than any other manufacturer has ever sold on launch.

Re:fragmentation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924381)

It's already happened that older iPhones were not supported. But typically, that comes 3-4 years after initial release. Given that there's a great chance a new iPhone will be purchased in its place, it's a good cycle for Apple. Fragmentation is unavoidable in the progress of tech. But the degree in which Android market faces is something to behold. Calling out Apple's fragmentation in comparison is a position of self ridicule. Your prediction fragmentation is unlikely to yield much trouble for Apple moving forward.

Re:fragmentation (4, Insightful)

beltsbear (2489652) | about a year ago | (#44924499)

Apple will have most of the iPhones in the first world on IOS 7 within a month. Something like that just does not happen EVER with Android. There may be older devices out there but they are no longer with primary users and driving the IOS market and apps. Apple devs will just keep moving forward to the latest version as most customers do leaving no effective fragmentation in the market.

The adoption rate of IOS 7 is already past 35% in ONE WEEK. Android will be lucky to have over 35% on the latest version ever.

Success (5, Insightful)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year ago | (#44924179)

So if selling 9 million high-end smartphones, according to the pundits, is "jumping the shark", I wonder what success looks like?

Re:Success (0)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#44924485)

Selling none, because your company is just too fucking hip for all those lame-ass customers out there.

It is not Android...so.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924191)

Nobody on Slashdot cares. If it isn't big news about how some Android phone is now number one market share or has features Apple doesn't fingers need to be inserted into ears.

Seriously, I don't know if 9 mill is good, bad or indifferent. What were the number of Galaxy 4 when that was released? I'm curious about the comparison to similar products on the market and their launch.

Re:It is not Android...so.. (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | about a year ago | (#44924275)

Galaxy S4 sold 10 millions in about 4 weeks.

Re:It is not Android...so.. (3, Informative)

aaarrrgggh (9205) | about a year ago | (#44924361)

Samsung claimed 20MM Galaxy 4's shipped in the first two months. Sales estimates for the time period were much lower though.

Re:It is not Android...so.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924409)

GS4 sold 10 million units in 30 days. It's one million more units but took 10x the time.

wgaf (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924193)

who gives a fuck

PT Barnum was right... (0, Redundant)

DriveDog (822962) | about a year ago | (#44924197)

and that's 17 years' worth.

Unlikely (4, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | about a year ago | (#44924217)

it could quiet some of the naysayers who have spent the past several months suggesting that Apple's best years are behind it.

If you know anything about Apple, it should be that nothing will really stop the fans and nothing will quiet the naysayers.

Re:Unlikely (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about a year ago | (#44924517)

Or that consumers care that much. I expect some people were fans who purchased them. Some people like my friends were due for a new phone and heard about the new iPhone. They could have gotten a Nokia or Samsung, and it wouldn't have broken their hearts to purchase a different phone.

Re:Unlikely (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924547)

it could quiet some of the naysayers who have spent the past several months suggesting that Apple's best years are behind it.

If you know anything about Apple, it should be that nothing will really stop the fans and nothing will quiet the naysayers.

The naysayers are fans too, just not fans of Google not Apple.

Why does this even matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924221)

Anyone that actually listens and trades to Wall Street reports is a tool. By the time "wall street" reports on it, the hedge fund guys are already primed to rape you. That's like getting raped by JPMC, afterwards you give them your car, house and children. How much sense does that make?

None of the self proclaimed finance shows have any integrity on TV. Doesn't matter if it's ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, or Fox. All the Android and iOS fanboys are tools.

Re:Why does this even matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924439)

This is typical SD non-sense. Sigh.

I'm not a mindless idiot that has to run out and buy everything new, but I bet half you whiners do this same thing when it comes to games or something else. Get off your high horses sheep. WTF

The only thing Apple has done that is stupid is the new iPhone OS, its like they are trying to beat MS and every new interface on the way to stupid-ville.

and itunes update notifications are pushed, ... (-1, Offtopic)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year ago | (#44924223)

I do not have itunes installed on my main home machine or my office machine.
Neither have ever had that piece of software installed, ONLY quicktime for viewing whatever videos I needed to view at that time.

I was alerted on both of these machines via the Apple Software Update that a new version of iTunes was available. I don't care
Go away apple, die in a fire

Re:and itunes update notifications are pushed, ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924291)

Hah! You only *believe* you don't have itunes installed... muahahahahahaha!

Re:and itunes update notifications are pushed, ... (-1, Flamebait)

Muhammet İkbal Yıldız (3179737) | about a year ago | (#44924333)

I do not have itunes installed on my main home machine or my office machine. Neither have ever had that piece of software installed, ONLY quicktime for viewing whatever videos I needed to view at that time.

I was alerted on both of these machines via the Apple Software Update that a new version of iTunes was available. I don't care Go away apple, die in a fire

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Love the summary (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924265)

...rumors persisted that the initial production run of the device was relatively small in scope, which would make it far easier for Apple to sell out of its first batch.

I love the implication that Apple artificially limited supply in order to get the sold out headline when they sold 9 MILLION phones, almost double the record number of iPhone 5 units that were sold last year, well in excess of any other mobile sales figures. The initial production run was "relatively small" only in so much as it couldn't live up to demand - they sold 9 MILLION units in THREE DAYS. That isn't "relatively small" by any logical measure.

Blows my mind how crushing sales like that can still be spun into somehow Apple failing.

4 billion of pure profit right there (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924325)

I blame people with MUCH more money than sense.

Some perspective (5, Interesting)

necro81 (917438) | about a year ago | (#44924387)

When Steve Jobs got up there and announced the first iPhone, he stated that Apple had relatively modest goals. Of the 1 billion cellphones in the world, Apple hoped to get the iPhone to represent just 1% - or ten million units. They completely blew that goal out of the water. Now they can hit that mark in a single product launch weekend.

Re:Some perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924545)

You have to keep in mind that there are now over 6.8 billion mobile phones in the world (according to wikipedia).

Microsoft almost catches up (4, Funny)

jabberw0k (62554) | about a year ago | (#44924405)

Microsoft is neck-and-neck with Apple, selling nine Windows phones on the same weekend.

grifters and con artists take note... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924455)

there are a *lot* of stupid people out there - yeehaw!

Baaaaaaaaaa.. Baaaaaaa (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924461)

Baaaaaa.. Baaaaaaa.. Baaaaaaaaaaaaa

Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baa Baaaaa Baaaaaaaaaa

- A loyal sheep

Bêêêêêêê (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924489)

That's a lot of sheeps!

There's a Rumor (0)

srobert (4099) | about a year ago | (#44924503)

There's a rumor that Apple is going to show its appreciation to all of the Chinese sweatshop workers who made this possible by giving them a free iPhone with service. Is that true?

When you pay over $900 for a smartphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44924551)

....you will invest a lot of energy justifying such purchase.

RIM sells 3 million in a quarter (0, Flamebait)

ElitistWhiner (79961) | about a year ago | (#44924567)

while AAPL eclipses 3X as many in a weekend. Buh bye Blackberry.

Like it or not, iPhone changed the world. Android exists inside a universe created by Apple. They continue to control it with faster response, faster processing and further processing advances without needing to own it.

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