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Middle-Click Paste? Not For Long

timothy posted 1 year,29 days | from the sometimes-it's-hard-to-love-you-gnome dept.

GNOME 729

An anonymous reader writes "Select to copy and middle-click to paste. That's very convenient usability feature associated with UNIX graphical environments. But it is confusing for new users, so the ability to middle-click paste was briefly removed from GNOME 3.10. It was restored few days later, but with clear message: middle-click paste will be permanently removed from next GNOME version." I hope that "we'll defer this change until the next cycle" also means that it's getting re-thought, rather than just delayed.

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GNOME: We don't want Microsoft to have all the FUN (5, Funny)

CajunArson (465943) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933537)

The GNOME guys are just jealous of Microsoft taking away the user interface elements that people were used to and they want to show that Open Source can do just a good a job of screwing up an interface as those big-bad corporate types!

Re:GNOME: We don't want Microsoft to have all the (5, Insightful)

Gavagai80 (1275204) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933675)

GNOME has been doing it since the 2.0 release more than a decade ago. Microsoft has nothing on them.

Re:GNOME: We don't want Microsoft to have all the (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933919)

Maybe the Gnome project has some "contributors" hired by Microsoft, Apple and/or Google?

I've been suspecting the same of Ubuntu - a nice, very usable distro has slowly turned into a horrible mongrel of UI experimentation and half-tested lower-level newshit that breaks hardware/software compatibility in unpredictable ways.

Trying not to use either anymore, but sometimes have to. Hate it.

That's it. Then I will stop using GNOME. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933561)

NT

Re:That's it. Then I will stop using GNOME. (4, Funny)

robthebloke (1308483) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933793)

Are you sure you want to go with NT though? I heard that Windows 98 is better for games.....

Re:That's it. Then I will stop using GNOME. (2)

Columcille (88542) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933983)

WinME FTW

One word. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933563)

Dumb.

three? (1, Funny)

A10Mechanic (1056868) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933573)

Three button mouse, how quaint.

Re:three? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933655)

or Left+Right. Don't be obtuse.

Re:three? (5, Funny)

robthebloke (1308483) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933821)

My mac only has one button, you insensitive clod!

Re:three? (4, Funny)

sjames (1099) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933985)

As much as i applaud Apple for finding homes for physically challenged mice, that doesn't mean the rest of the mice should have to wear sandbags.

mouse? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933691)

mouse, how quaint

Re:three? (5, Insightful)

Serneum (3195887) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933703)

Or, you know, clicking the scroll wheel

Re:three? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933763)

It's like they're stuck in the 80's. Anything less than 13 buttons is just archaic.

Re:three? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934041)

13!? Good sir I have 12 just on the _side_ of my mouse! Then there's the 5 on the top. You've fallen behind.

Re:three? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934065)

Most mice have three buttons. I take it you do realize you can click the wheel?

Re:three? (1)

Hatta (162192) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934175)

Most mice these days have at least 5 buttons. Left click, right click, scroll wheel up, scroll wheel down, and scroll wheel depress.

LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933595)

LOL features being removed because Linux users are too dumb.

Re:LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933677)

LOL features being removed because new users (most likely, coming straight from Windows) are too dumb.

FTFY!

Re:LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933767)

And yet Microsoft never has to remove features because of these supposed "dumb Windows users".

Re:LOL (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933859)

Are you serious??? MS has constantly been removing features, from the tool bars in Windows Explorer, to the start menu. Look at the garbage that is Windows 8.

Re:LOL (4, Funny)

robthebloke (1308483) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933977)

They don't remove features, they just move them to somewhere less convenient.....

Re:LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934087)

Wow, that weasel-wording if I've ever heard it. You're changing the meaning of "remove features" and arguing I'm wrong. Windows 7 had no tool bars in Explorer. Period. Windows 8 has no start menu. Period. The fact that there are different methods to achieve the same goal, does no mean they still have those features.

Re:LOL (3, Insightful)

robthebloke (1308483) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933905)

To be fair, users leaving windows, are likely to have a few more brain cells than those sticking with windows 8. Just saying...... ;)

FUCK OFF (3, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933597)

Seriously, these guys need to just fuck off.

Linux is a very nice system, or was until they got their hands on it.

Now it's becoming a cheap-ass knockoff of some nasty hybrid of OSX and Windows with all the unique and useful features removed.

Seriously guys, if you want MacOS just buy a fucking Mac and stop breaking shit in Linux.

Re:FUCK OFF (4, Informative)

somersault (912633) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933695)

They're breaking Gnome, not Linux. The nice thing about Linux is that you can configure everything exactly how you want it. Maybe try MATE [mate-desktop.org] ?

Re:FUCK OFF (3, Informative)

serviscope_minor (664417) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933959)

They're breaking Gnome, not Linux. The nice thing about Linux is that you can configure everything exactly how you want it. Maybe try MATE?

Yeah, I know Gnome isn't all of Linux, but it has a lot of influence and a lot of popular programs are tied into the infrastructure. This is why so many programs seem to have forgotten the concept of cwd recently.

Other than that, I'll stick with FVWM.

Re:FUCK OFF (1, Insightful)

armanox (826486) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934083)

GNOME is the flagship Linux desktop, no matter how much we wish otherwise.

Re:FUCK OFF (5, Insightful)

damicatz (711271) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934121)

No, they are breaking Linux.

The GNOME people have managed to invade several core projects such as udev and have been busy working to integrate them with GNOME. In addition, they are trying to push the GNOME-centric Wayland to replace X.

Removing middle click paste is just the latest example of their arrogance. The GNOME developers generally adopt the attitude that the user is an idiot who can't wipe their own ass without one of them to help. Anytime you complain about a removed feature you are either "using it wrong" or GNOME was "not designed for users who wish to do X". If they kept to their own little corner, I would not have as much of a problem but they are doing their damnedest to turn the entire Linux ecosystem into one giant mess without any regards for the UNIX philosophy or even compatibility with other *nix systems such as the BSDs.

Re:FUCK OFF (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933761)

It's like I've always said...

Dear GNOME team:

Okay, fine. We get it. You wanted to work for Apple really REALLY badly, but they never hired any of you, and now you're bitter. You've made your point. Now get back to work making a sane UI and desktop environment already.

Re:FUCK OFF (1)

Desler (1608317) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933797)

How exactly is Gnome remotely like either OS X or Windows other than at some extremely superficial level? I know plenty of OS X users and none of them would ever touch Gnome 3 with a 50 foot pole.

Re:FUCK OFF (1)

camperdave (969942) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933995)

How exactly is Gnome remotely like either OS X or Windows other than at some extremely superficial level?

All most people see is the superficial level. That's the entire point of a desktop/GUI.

Re:FUCK OFF (4, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934115)

How exactly is Gnome remotely like either OS X or Windows other than at some extremely superficial level?

Er, that's about the only way. The developers of GNOME seem to have some awful kind of Mac envy. Previously when Windows was king, they had some awful kind of Windows envy. The result is not good.

I know plenty of OS X users and none of them would ever touch Gnome 3 with a 50 foot pole.

I said it's lake a nasty cheap knockoff, not a nice cheap knockoff :)

Re:FUCK OFF (5, Insightful)

KiloByte (825081) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933837)

There is one problem: for historic reasons, most distributions install Gnome by default. This needs to be fixed, badly.

Re:FUCK OFF (2)

idontgno (624372) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933961)

Actually, it needs to be fixed, well.

Installing Gnome is an example of fixing something badly.

OTOH, installing Windows is an example of breaking something. Whether you consider it doing this well or badly is subject to debate.

The mythical "new user" (3, Interesting)

SirGarlon (845873) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933845)

Two questions:

1) How many "new users" did they actually talk to?

2) How many GNOME users are there, and of those users, how many are "new"?

It sounds to me like they're removing a feature that millions of people use, on a whim.

Re:The mythical "new user" (5, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934033)

And that's why I'm done with Gnome. They keep doing stupid things and trying to tell me it's for my own good.

Re:The mythical "new user" (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934071)

It sounds to me like they're removing a feature that millions of people use, on a whim of a madman.

FTFY. Dennis Hopper FTW!

Re:FUCK OFF (1)

Columcille (88542) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934043)

Yes, nothing like the default Linux ui. It's so elegant I can duplicate it without using anything but text. Here it is, the Linux default UI in all its glory:
#

Re:FUCK OFF (1)

Greyfox (87712) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934081)

Well the nice thing about Linux is you don't have to use their shit. I'm actually kind of happy the Gnome guys turned out to be huge assholes. Sure I could fork one of their earlier code bases, but eliminating a desktop environment from my window manager completely turned out to be a pretty nice move. All I really needed was a launcher for a couple of applications, which the window manager works great for. All that other extraneous fluff was just pointlessly bogging down my system and workflow.

Right. (4, Informative)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933621)

I hope that "we'll defer this change until the next cycle" also means that it's getting re-thought, rather than just delayed.

If you have any hope of that, you've obviously not actually used Gnome for any length of time. Considering their users is not something that Gnome designers seem to have any desire to do.

Re:Right. (1)

Provocateur (133110) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934091)

The submitter must be from a parallel dimension. The last middle-click will send these supposed 'GNOME devs'/impostors back

Make it an option, PLEASE!!! (5, Interesting)

chalsall (185) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933623)

Please, please, PLEASE make this an option, not a full removal.

I will stop using GNOME if this ability is fully removed.

Re:Make it an option, PLEASE!!! (-1, Flamebait)

cdrudge (68377) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933685)

Isn't GNOME open source? Just make the option yourself. How hard can it be...

Re:Make it an option, PLEASE!!! (2)

barlevg (2111272) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933799)

From the commit ttile, they're heavily implying it's optional: xsettings: Disable middle-click paste by default [gnome.org]

Re:Make it an option, PLEASE!!! (5, Informative)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933981)

From that link:

The middle-click will be used to start selections, and provide text contextual menus (such as word definitions, sharing, etc.)

This is more "break the desktop in favor of tablet behavior" stupidity.

Re:Make it an option, PLEASE!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933865)

This.

I think that the GNOME way these days is to have a lot of options, and then, in carefully controlled studies, randomly pick the one that they think all users will like and then remove the code for everything else.

This is getting silly. At least with Windows there's still a lot of flexibility, even if you do need to dig down into three nested preference dialogs or perhaps the registry to do it. Mac OS may make you mess around with third-party extensions and PLISTs, but you can still change quite a bit of the UI there as well. Unity? Fuhgeddaboutit!

Re:Make it an option, PLEASE!!! (5, Interesting)

Aguazul2 (2591049) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933991)

I will stop using GNOME if this ability is fully removed.

I think that is what they want. They have succeeded in driving me away to XFCE, which is actually quite good and does everything I need. To me GNOME is like a solar flare, quite impressive at first, but then fading out as it gets higher and higher from the surface of the sun. They are in a little bubble floating off into space, becoming more and more irrelevant to normal Linux users. Maybe they will meet an alien civilization some day who will understand what they are trying to do.

Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933629)

I don't even like middle-click paste, but why are they removing it? Why not just make it an option, disabled by default, that people can still enable if they want to? This trend of removing stuff just because is rather unsettling.

Re:Why? (2)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933751)

Also, what prevents you from ignoring it if you don't like it?

Re:Why? (2)

91degrees (207121) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933885)

Apparently to allow contextual menus.

Personally, I thought that was what the right mouse button was for, but what do I know about how to use a computer? I'm just a user.

Good riddance (1, Insightful)

prasadsurve (665770) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933631)

You hardly have 3 button mouse these days and clicking on the scroll wheel button was rather inconvenient.
They should include option of enabling this but as long as its not the default most people will not use it.

Re:Good riddance (1)

TWX (665546) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933693)

They should include option of enabling this but as long as its not the default most people will not use it.

Yeah! Chord-middle is much better! I don't ever have to worry about accidentally scrolling while middle-clicking that way...

Seriously, I use one of those four-button-plus-scroll-wheel trackballs. Taking functionality away is pretty low on my list of good things. Letting it be customizable, sure, but removing the option? Annoying to say the least...

Re:Good riddance (2)

Serneum (3195887) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933747)

I use this all the time by clicking the scroll wheel. Doesn't feel inconvenient at all since I'm used to using the scroll wheel while browsing and such anyway

Re:Good riddance (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933909)

Aspies may be good coders but they suck big time as developers because they have no fucking clue what people actually really want. The more sophisticated ones recognize other people's needs and preference that are different from own ones but still have problems with accepting the fact that there are different people and they have different visions of what is good and what not in particular interface.

Re:Good riddance (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934079)

Map it to the left & right buttons pressed together. I guess this was common knowledge 10-15 years ago.

Yes, this will cause all Windows users to switch (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933635)

to Linux. Congratulations, GNOME. You've fixed it. It was middle-click to paste that was holding back Linux on the desktop.

gnome extensions (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933637)

With any luck it will be added back via the gnome extensions page shortly after.

Gnome user-base? Not for long (1)

X0563511 (793323) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933649)

Seriously? Are they trying to bleed their user-base dry?

Next cycle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933667)

Next cycle? You mean Gnome 4? So I have what, another ten years to adjust then.

No thanks (2)

Hatta (162192) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933681)

Just another reason not to use GNOME. Hopefully the Xorg people don't start thinking this is a useless feature. I'm still finding myself trying to hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X, or CTRL-ALT-+ to zoom in. These were very useful features that were dropped for no good reason at all.

Re: No thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933979)

Couldn't agree more! I'm still pissed about Ctrl+Alt+backspace being removed.

I had never heard about the middle mouse button pasting before this article, now I'm pissed it's going away as well. It just sounds like such a convenient feature.

Next what? No shading a window via the scroll wheel? Wait.. Crap.

Re:No thanks (1)

inflex (123318) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934085)

Agreed, I used to use those on a fairly routine basis at times, still miss them for times when things go wrong.

One more reason to NOT use GNOME (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933713)

I love the way the GNOME developers take options away from us! Here is one more reason for me not to use GNOME, good thing there are so many other choices. I think I'll give LXDE a try.

Who cares? (4, Insightful)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933731)

One more reason to try LXDE, MATE or Cinnamon.

revenge (4, Funny)

bperkins (12056) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933743)

If I ever build a killbot, it will be activated by the phrase "confusing to users."

Re:revenge (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933957)

Now that would be just confusing to users of your killbot.

Re:revenge (2)

Count Fenring (669457) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934105)

You, sir, have my vote for senior executive in charge of killbots.

Idiocy (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933753)

This feature is second nature to Linux users WTF are they "thinking"?

As confusing as the Start menu was for Windows... (1)

GbrDead (702506) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933791)

... but there are other desktop environments for UNIX, fortunately.

Probably a good thing (0, Troll)

Dan East (318230) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933805)

The mouse is a hardware interface to a virtual construct within the GUI - the mouse pointer. With the exception of the middle-button "paste" functionality, all the other controls are generic interactions into the virtual environment ("touch" the object under the pointer, get extended options for the object under the pointer, scroll the area under the pointer, etc). Binding such an abstract and specific editing command such as "paste" to the mouse is not a good practice in the first place. It should be optional or application specific and not defined as paste by default in the WM in general.

Re:Probably a good thing (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934113)

Let me guess: You have never used it.

This feature is so mind-boggingly *convenient* I really don't know how to work without it.

No, using ^C ^V is not an alternative – I use *both*, because it gives me *two* clipboards to work with.

Re:Probably a good thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934135)

You don't actually use the feature, do you? Try it -- it's the most useful fucking thing ever. Once you get used to it, the windows model of right-click copy, right-click paste is like crossing the street by way of China.

Re:Probably a good thing (1)

sjames (1099) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934161)

There's nothing abstract about it. You mark an object with the mouse, then you paste it into something else by pointing at it with the mouse and middle clicking. It's no more specific than any other clicking you might do.

That something else may typically be a text entry widget but it doesn't have to be.

Gnome? Not for long (2)

dougmc (70836) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933847)

Actually, I've already ditched Gnome. I liked Gnome 2, but so many of the features I liked and actually used were removed for Gnome 3 that I finally bit the bullet and just switched to XFCE. I miss some of the features of Gnome 2, but not Gnome 3.

And if I hadn't, removing middle button paste and not even making it an option would have run me off even faster. At least I spent some time trying to like Gnome 3 before giving up.

Seriously, they can have my middle mouse button paste when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Gnome going nowhere ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933861)

Gnome was a very nice desktop... Then they began to screw thing up...
- Mono push... Mono is one more bloated vitrual machine... it should be meant as a compatibility layer for Microsoft products, nor as a main goal for Linux.
- Gnome 3 interface, clearly tablet oriented and very unfriendly for PC computers...
- Middle mouse paste is an addition to the ^C/^V copy-paste... If removed, middle click would be present but unused... quite stupid
- many useful gnome applet just dissapeared...

and so on...

If they want to push people towards other environment, they should not try otherwise...

Too fucking bad (4, Interesting)

elashish14 (1302231) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933869)

The only result that this will have is either

1.) derivative products adding it back in or
2.) users moving to a different platform

Wake up idiots!!! Do you see how many forks of your project exist these days? That's because they have no other means to fix your broken products. Gnome is becoming un-recommendable as a desktop for all their idiotic design decisions. From now on, your options are KDE if you want a qt-based setup or Xfce/LXDE if you want gtk. Gnome no longer exists to me.

KDE all the way (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933893)

Glad I am using KDE (on Fedora)

It's not as bad as it seems. (0)

Ed Bugg (2024) | 1 year,29 days | (#44933899)

The article reads... The functionality of the default behavior of the middle mouse button will be for context menus. That reads to me that it'll still be customized to be what ever you want it to be.

After all isn't that what drew us to Unix environments in the first place? You don't like something, change it yourself. Shells that first allowed you to embed commands right into the prompt itself, window managers that allowed you to update the look and feel of your windows, including animated fire in the title bars. With a text editor and a config file you could do anything.

And in the end. If it doesn't give you the ability to change the behavior, it's not like there isn't 500 bazillion other window managers out there.

Re:It's not as bad as it seems. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934195)

Isn't the right mouse button used for context menus? Why two? (Not that I use middle button much since it was made into a wheel).

Confusing to new users? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933911)

Since when was GNOME getting any new users....?

Do Linux Users Care about Defaults? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933913)

Shouldn't it be trivially easy to assign any action to any button or keystroke? I have a mouse with 9 buttons (if you include scroll wheel left and right tilt) in Windows and assign each to something useful, with 5 of those functions varying based on which program I have active. There's no way this is difficult to achieve in GNOME.

No cntr-shift-C, please look at OS X. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933969)

I am fine with it, only if they also introduce the command key so as not to interfere with the control key and terminal windows.

I am pretty happy how this works on OS X, you use the command key for things like copy and past. cmd-C cmd-V cmd-X etc. This allows you to do ctrl-C and things like that in a Terminal to do what it is expected to do. I can not get used to shift-cntr-C for terminals on Linux, which is different from cntr-C in every other application, it misses consistency which is important for muscle memory.

Good (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44933997)

Middle click to paste sucks. It keeps fucking with any and all gesture plugins I use. Or when I'm scrolling and accidentally press too hard. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Now, can we port this to MATE and have this godsend in a decent DE?

Gnome is dead. (1)

oo_00 (2595337) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934003)

So who cares what they do?

All the news lately (1)

kiriath (2670145) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934027)

Can be likened to that terrible M. Night Shyamalan movie where people are killing themselves for no reason. (Spoiler: Something to do with the trees if I remember right...) I just see Microsoft jumping off a cliff, followed by the Gnome developers. Who will go crazy next?

Who is still using GNOME anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934045)

I don't understand who still cares about those "GNOME devs decide to screw up foo". There is a good remedy to the abomination that GNOME has become.

MATE [mate-desktop.org]

I hate Select to copy. (2, Insightful)

IMarvinTPA (104941) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934057)

I hate select to copy. I frequently highlight words to help myself read them and track where I am. I don't associate highlighting text with copying it, which screws up my internal clipboard memory. Middle click to paste simply never occurs to me. Middle mouse button on Windows is generally application dependent. Since I never middle click, it's function by default is irrelevant. It'd the damned highlight to copy that screws me up.

IMarv

insert selection, not paste (1)

stenvar (2789879) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934063)

Middle click inserts the current selection, pasting inserts the cut buffer. They are two different things.

Removing this feature seems stupid; it's not only been around forever and people are used to it, it's also very useful. In particular, it's nice to have in addition to cut-and-paste.

At the very least "insert selection here" should be configurable under mouse settings.

Optimizing for new users is a one-way street... (5, Insightful)

mi (197448) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934095)

But it is confusing for new users

Such optimizing things for new users — while pessimizing the experience for others — is a trap. This is exactly, how you end-up with a dumbed-down system — whether it is an OS, or a user-interface for anything. Easy to get started — maybe, you'll achieve that. Hard to keep going — this one will likely be yours...

Two independent cut and paste clipboards is great (4, Interesting)

advid.net (595837) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934103)

Where the middle button shines, is when one need to copy and paste two pieces of junk from one window to another:

Select the first part, Ctrl-C, select the second part, then move on the target window and Ctrl-V to paste the first part and middle click to paste the second part.

There's no way one can easily do this without the middle button paste. Is there ?
(and desktop clipboard history isn't very ergonomic, last time I tried)

I must admit I don't use this feature very often, but I like it a lot when it comes handy.

How do I middle click my trackpad? (1)

iamacat (583406) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934117)

Touch/tap is clearly winning over click these days and default UI metaphors should follow. I hope a middle click can be bound to an action just like any other key for those who do have a desktop style mouse.

But worse, select/middle click DOESN'T use the same clipboard as Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V. Plus, there is no way to replace existing text with paste, since selecting it nukes your clipboard. All these things put together make me wish gnome didn't chicken out and addressed this now.

Remove CTRL + C as well (4, Funny)

Wattos (2268108) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934127)

They should just remove CTRL + C and CTRL + V as well while they are at it. Not only is it not very discoverable, but it also requires you to use the keyboard. Drag and Drop is so much better and obviously the correct way to do copy paste.

Gnome as an option? Not for long (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934139)

Good riddance Gnome, you have annoyed too many users to be worth of our attention anymore.

it has to be said, linux aint unix anymore. (1)

nimbius (983462) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934167)

who still uses gnome? Certainly Ubuntu and Fedora thrust it into the user experience for all of us but how long does it stay around until the average slashdotter can get XFCE, Fluxbox or Awesome installed?

3 has devolved into a screaming race to the bottom alongside KDE, mod points be damned. Gnome started out as a sly wink to Mac, an environment the users of the once famed #2 OS could find themselves at ease just as KDE was a sly wink to windows. These days either environment is the equivalent of a bathsalt trip down pick-and-choose lane. should an icon slide? or click? in Gnome 3 it can do both in some applications... which is an infuriating experience for mouse users but screw the base. the user needs yet another input-driven excuse for wild cirque du soleil gesticulations in the pursuit of his tablet experience. Hotspots? lets put them everywhere. the Dock? lets make it meaningless icons you'll either wait to metriculate from the edge of the screen or bungle into trying to get to a different menu entirely, which incidentally is now totally obscured by the dock. Reverse course captain stubing, the mouse has run aground. how do we power the machine off? click the tiny gear in the upper right hand corner but full stop captain! the mouse! she's moored in another hotspot which has pulled up an entire screen of random unlabeled icons. If you've the latest graphics card this screen will snap to attention like a seasoned warrior, but for anyone a few years dated the experience is beguiling as the screen slowly dims and icons like so many phantoms gradually condense into existence.

releasing the knowledge that the middle-click paste is being deprecated in gnome is like learning the news that your senile aunt who once enjoyed pudding cups, now only eats pudding on a stick. its different for auntie but expected behavior in the context of the other nursing home residents.

Gnome can go to hell (1)

liamoohay (765499) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934173)

There, I said it. While I still prefer Gnome's integration with the OS to other alternatives like KDE or ICE, I stopped using Gnome as my primary desktop environment a long time ago. (I use sawfish as my primary because of the easily scriptable lisp backend and REP loop.). I usually keep a Gnome session active on a different ttty for the rare occasion that I want to use some of the added functionality that it provides, but this is pretty rare these days.

Because, Gnome (2)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | 1 year,29 days | (#44934179)

I find it fascinating that a group of people would actually consider removing this entire piece of functionality the better option in lieu of simply making it a configuration item.

Uh what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#44934189)

Okay, yeah I ditched GNOME for XFCE and openbox ages ago, but this isn't deserving of all this hate. A stupid decision, yes, but the GNOME team isn't known for their ability to appease its userbase lately. I wouldn't take it out, but 3 button mice aren't popular anyway, and most people won't have a need for it. A simple config option would be nice though.

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