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Half-Life 3 Trademark Filed In Europe

Soulskill posted about 10 months ago | from the break-out-your-jump-to-conclusions-playmat dept.

PC Games (Games) 150

jones_supa writes "A trademark application for Half-Life 3, possibly the next entry in Valve's excruciatingly dormant Half-Life franchise, has been filed in Europe, according to the Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market, the European Union's trademark and designs registry. The OHIM's database lists the Half-Life 3 trademark as owned by Valve Corporation, and filed on its behalf by Casalonga & Associés, a patent and trademark firm. The trademark covers 'computer game software,' 'downloadable computer game software via a global computer network and wireless devices' and other goods and services. The application was filed on Sept. 29. There is no equivalent trademark on record at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office."

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I sure hope this means... (1, Insightful)

SgtXaos (157101) | about 10 months ago | (#45008595)

...that HL3 is actually possible!

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | about 10 months ago | (#45008623)

nah, it's most likely for intellectual property protection, rather than "HL3 CONFIRMED OMG VALVE CNA COUNT AFTER ALL LOL".

Re:I sure hope this means... (5, Insightful)

James Sarvey (3348883) | about 10 months ago | (#45008681)

I believe that in IP law the trademark needs to actually be used sometime in the near future for it to be defensible. You can't just trademark a bunch of things for shits and giggles with no intention to use them. If you could, Valve would have trademarked HL3 a long time ago.

Re:I sure hope this means... (2)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 10 months ago | (#45009137)

That being said, I'm pretty sure they already have a trademark on "Half-Life" and they really don't need to trademark the more specific Half-Life 3. It's not like you could just put out a game called "Half-Life 3" or "GTA 6" next month because the trademark holders on the previous game with a very similar title haven't bothered to file a trademark for the next game in the series.

Re:I sure hope this means... (2)

mindwhip (894744) | about 10 months ago | (#45011549)

Chances are the trademark also includes unreported logos and new variations of wording. Also there is the reported updated usage wording which lawyers feel make it necessary.

Re:I sure hope this means... (0)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | about 10 months ago | (#45009211)

What happened to patent law then?

Re:I sure hope this means... (5, Informative)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about 10 months ago | (#45009359)

Nothing. Patents and Trademarks are completely distinct things.

Re:I sure hope this means... (0)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | about 10 months ago | (#45009643)

If I cannot trademark anything and everything that floats to mind, for shits and giggles, why then can I patent whatever floats to mind for shits and giggles? Are lawyers dealing with trademarks less greedy than patent attorneys such that they didn't instruct their lobby to get their own pro "shits and giggles" legislation passed?

Re:I sure hope this means... (2, Informative)

slimjim8094 (941042) | about 10 months ago | (#45009691)

Because patents are very time-limited and they come with public disclosure. You do understand that patents, copyrights, and trademarks are completely different, right?

Re:I sure hope this means... (0)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | about 10 months ago | (#45009841)

While there are technical differences, in a more abstract sense they're all gatekeepers whose purpose is to funnel money to the possessor by exclusion and/or toll taking. While patents do expire, they are anything but "very" time-limited except in relation to their IP cousins. By the time a patent has expired, the so-called "invention" is often obsolete. In the mean time everything that would have benefited from it's implementation is either sub-optimal for having avoided or more expensive for having licensed.

Re:I sure hope this means... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009979)

Dude, please just shut the fuck up. You're a total fucking retard. The vast majority of patents are not "obsolete" at all at the time of their expiration. What's obsolete is fucking assholes like you trying to wedge your hate for IP into every conversation even if it doesn't fit.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

umdesch4 (3036737) | about 10 months ago | (#45010449)

Wow, this is quite the inflammatory response. So, it's 20 years in the US for a patent. For the kinds of patents we talk about here on /. I have to agree with the person you're calling a retard. After 20 years 'the so-called "invention" is often obsolete'. Unless, of course, it's rounded corners on a moblile electronic device. I'm sure that won't be obsolete in 20 years...

Re: I sure hope this means... (1)

madprof (4723) | about 10 months ago | (#45011771)

You can't have a variable time limit for patents based on when it might become obsolete because you can't predict the future that accurately. That would be a silly idea.

People who hate the idea of IP are living on a different planet.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Andtalath (1074376) | about 10 months ago | (#45011703)

Trademark is to be able to claim ownership of a product.

Meaning, you can actually build a reputation.

Basically, if I buy a Lenovo Thinkpad x230, I don't want it to actually be a Packard Bell netbook.

That is what trademarks are about.

So, no, pretty much nothing like patents.

Re:I sure hope this means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45011763)

I do not agree that trademarks is any such thing. It's just a registry to tell consumers that they are getting what it says on the box.

If everyone was allowed to name their game Half-life 3 it would be far too confusing.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

harperska (1376103) | about 10 months ago | (#45009245)

Yep. Not only do you have to use it for it to be defensible, but you have to actively defend it as well. Failing to take action to protect your trademark is legally implicitly agreeing that you no longer wish to retain exclusive ownership of that mark. That is why anybody can market their moving staircase contraption as an Escalator, and Otis Co. has no say in the matter anymore.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about 10 months ago | (#45009389)

You have to use it within a certain amount of time after registration. In most places this is around 5 years.

Re:I sure hope this means... (2)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 months ago | (#45009731)

and actually... if they just create a holder page - give a press release or whatever - that is usage. maybe this means that in 5 years they announce it.

but like someone already commented they have half-life already covered for a game related use.

I've said it before and I'll say it again the problem with HL series is that it has no direction, nobody knows where the story is supposed to to go - nobody even inside valve knows the even the context of the story, background or anything. that's why hl2 and the episodes are so vague and why they had to resort to ending in middle of an explosion.. and why there's nobody in there with a passion for getting the story told(and the games out).

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

dkf (304284) | about 10 months ago | (#45009897)

but like someone already commented they have half-life already covered for a game related use.

With trademarks, it helps to be very specific. In particular, it makes the unique mark far easier to defend in a civil court case.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | about 10 months ago | (#45010837)

Bingo, we have a winner! I love the hell out of the game but the story? Deep fried ass, sorry folks but it is. That thing has more loose threads than a sweater woven by a granny with Parkinson's and you can tell they have NO clue WTF the G-Man is supposed to be, who he works for, what he is supposed to do, it was probably thrown in there originally because of the whole X-Files/MIB thing back in the late 90s and then the fans latched on and they didn't know WTF to do with it other than just throw his ass in with zero idea how to wrap the thing up.

Hell I bet if they hired Joss Whedon to write HL3 even he couldn't figure out how to make an ending that actually even made half ass sense, its just too all over the place. Its still a fun as hell game series though, even if the story makes no sense whatsoever.

Re:I sure hope this means... (4, Insightful)

sd4f (1891894) | about 10 months ago | (#45008671)

I think HL3 might be used to launch steamOS, just like HL2 launched steam. Whether it will be exclusive to steamOS (like HL2 required steam), i have my doubts.

Re:I sure hope this means... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008735)

I think you might be a nigger, just like the ones on TV. Whether you will be exclusive to the ghetto, I have my doubts. You Internet Nigger!

Re:I sure hope this means... (5, Interesting)

James Sarvey (3348883) | about 10 months ago | (#45008795)

People keep bringing that idea up, but it seems really stupid to me. Installing a new OS is a non-trivial task for most people, and even most PC gamers I think. Throw in dual-booting with an existing Windows installation and you might as well ask them to fly to the moon. Valve's whole business model, the reason people swallow their DRM without complaining, is based on making your games go from the storefront to installed in your library with a few mouse clicks, and then keeping them all in one place. Requiring a dual-booted OS just for one game is the antithesis of that. It's everything people hated about EA's Origin magnified tenfold. Valve knows better.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | about 10 months ago | (#45008995)

I agree, Valve isn't likely to make it a SteamOS-only game...unless they're planning on using it as an incentive to get a SteamBox. As you said, ease of use is Valve's lifeblood. SteamBox satisfies that condition; SteamOS alone will always be for the tinkering DIYers, I think. As a further incentive, hey, there are already a bunch of Steam games that run under Linux, so it's less likely that they'd be buying the "console" "just for one game".

Re: I sure hope this means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009169)

I don't think steamOS' largest usage is going to be from people installing it on their own hardware. It is going to be OEMs installing it on their version on steambox/android stick/ARM whatever, and sold as gaming hardware.

Re: I sure hope this means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009215)

steambox/android stick/ARM whatever, and sold as gaming hardware.

"ARM whatever"? How do you plan to execute x86 binaries on an ARM CPU?

All Steamboxes will be Intel/AMD CPU based.

Re: I sure hope this means... (1)

tepples (727027) | about 10 months ago | (#45009503)

How do you plan to execute x86 binaries on an ARM CPU?

Should Valve seek a port of Steam to Android, it'll probably work the same way games are released for Windows, OS X, and desktop Linux: through a recompile from source.

Re: I sure hope this means... (2)

Grave (8234) | about 10 months ago | (#45009603)

And when you consider the fact that one of the biggest draws of SteamOS is the streaming capability, having a low-powered ARM client actually makes sense.

Re: I sure hope this means... (1)

Kielistic (1273232) | about 10 months ago | (#45010341)

it'll probably work the same way games are released for Windows, OS X, and desktop Linux

The fact that they all run the same architecture? Hint: x86 not ARM.

You don't actually think a game that requires a GPU that takes probably an order of magnitude more power than an entire ARM device is just a recompile away do you?

Re: I sure hope this means... (1)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | about 10 months ago | (#45010477)

There's nothing stopping NVIDIA creating a SteamBox using a Tegra with a massive GPU. The architecture doesn't make much difference when you need to recompile anyway (unless there's hand-tuned assembly, but that's not insurmountable). Why would NVIDIA do this? Because they're not in any of the big consoles, they don't have an x86 license, but they do have an ARM license. They've even shown a tendency to go this way with NVIDIA SHIELD.

Re: I sure hope this means... (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | about 10 months ago | (#45009623)

I never said that SteamOS (as installed by an individual on their own hardware) would be the most common usage. "Tinkering DIYers" are a small minority of users of current systems, and I don't expect that to change. The guy I was responding to said that asking most gamers to do their own dual-boot install would be unrealistic, and I agreed with that. Valve needs a way to make SteamOS popular, and the most viable way to do that is to keep things simple. Thus: SteamBox. I think they're already fragmenting their market by going Win-Mac-Lin-SteamBox though. They don't need to add in a completely separate architecture to complicate things further; I don't really see a move to ARM in the near future (although, who knows about a couple years down the road...)

Re: I sure hope this means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45011129)

HL3 should be a SteamOS exclusive along with the new CS and Dota that is the only way for the OS to get any major traction.

Re:I sure hope this means... (5, Interesting)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 10 months ago | (#45009167)

How much do you want to bet SteamOS can be launched via live CD? Who says that Live CD can't be the HL3 disc? Seems rather logical to me. If you get a digital download they could just put a "burn me a live CD" right in the steam client... or offer to install a boot loader for you. All very easy.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about 10 months ago | (#45009409)

I'll bet you thousands of dollars it won't be. It would go completely against the point of Steam to then require you to burn the game and run it that way. The whole point of Steam is to not need CD media to install and run a game.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 10 months ago | (#45010495)

You don't need one. It's just an option. You can run it on windows, you can run it on linux, you can boot to the CD. Whatever you want.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | about 10 months ago | (#45010559)

Or it will just install as every other game on Steams does rather than something stupid like what you posit?

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Kielistic (1273232) | about 10 months ago | (#45010361)

There is an update and you must download and burn a new disc to continue playing this game.

That, among many other reasons, is why such a thing would not work as a live CD. Messing with a user's bootloader when the user has no idea what that is is not "very easy". It is a sure path to failure.

Re:I sure hope this means... (2)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 10 months ago | (#45010517)

You haven't used many live CDs have you? Yes you can run purely from the CD, and yes, then you can't save anything. But most allow you to save to hard disk just like any other OS. You can save your updates there, as well as your games. And the idea that "Messing around with the boot loader is not very easy" is just silly. every modern Linux distro out there offers to install a bootloader for you if you already have windows. It rarely causes problems and people who have no idea what they are doing successfully complete installs all the time.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Kaenneth (82978) | about 10 months ago | (#45010493)

Also not all PCs have CD-ROM drives.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | about 10 months ago | (#45011657)

Yes, but including a USB thumb drive imaging tool would be trivial.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about 10 months ago | (#45011131)

You know what the most popular upgrade among gamers now is? An SSD boot drive, because hard drives are too slow for us. Do you think anyone's going to regularly boot Steam off a medium slower and more sequential than a hard drive, when most gamers who can are fleeing towards SSDs at least for the boot drive?

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Agent ME (1411269) | about 10 months ago | (#45010465)

There's little point in dual-booting to SteamOS. SteamOS is aimed at Steambox computers that don't even have Windows.

Re: I sure hope this means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45011419)

Most gamers already figured out a way when TF2 gave free cosmetic items to Linux players.

Re:I sure hope this means... (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about 10 months ago | (#45009839)

Well, this [gearnuke.com] sort of jives with that. Massively.

Half-Life 3 Confirmed (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008603)

Half-Life 3 Confirmed

Me too. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008605)

I filed for a trademark on Hot-Grits 3.

Re:Me too. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008711)

Now you're thinking with Portmans!

Re:Me too. (0)

gmhowell (26755) | about 10 months ago | (#45008747)

I filed for a trademark on Hot-Grits 3.

That's fine, I've trademarked the Naked and Petrified expansion pack.

First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (4, Funny)

DangerOnTheRanger (2373156) | about 10 months ago | (#45008615)

We'll be left with no speculationware to joke about pretty soon, looks like.

Re:First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008957)

We'll always have the year of linux on the desktop. They won on servers, tablets and getting there on phones but still no desktop.

Re:First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (1)

gapagos (1264716) | about 10 months ago | (#45010157)

Dude. There's no more "year of the [anything] desktop" anymore. The desktop dominance is over. The Internet is no longer accessed in absolute majority by desktop computers. Most Internet devices are now phones, tablets, and other various devices. If anything, 2014 will be the year of the Android.

Re: First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (1)

Therad (2493316) | about 10 months ago | (#45010767)

Year of android has already happened.

Re:First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45011421)

We need a "year of the desktop"!

Re:First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008999)

There's always GNU\Hurd

Re:First Duke Nukem Forever, now this... (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 10 months ago | (#45010721)

We'll be left with no speculationware to joke about pretty soon, looks like.

Compared to DNF, HL3 is a bit different though: Valve itself has yet not officially promised or advertised anything (unless you really want to count the cliffhanger at the end of HL2EP2). So it's only speculation among fans, unlike DNF which received a bunch of screenshots with a good dose of hype every now and then.

I guess (1)

bitt3n (941736) | about 10 months ago | (#45008629)

that's more encouraging than if they trademarked Half-Life Forever

Re:I guess (1)

ProzacPatient (915544) | about 10 months ago | (#45008939)

That would actually be rather funny if they did

Re:I guess (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 10 months ago | (#45009159)

Half-Life Forever.

For your Linux desktop.

Yawn.... (0)

MrBigInThePants (624986) | about 10 months ago | (#45008643)

Probably the actual news here: Another 3rd party graphics engine to be released soon. Tech demo will be charged for. Next generation of team fortress is here.

Let's hope they do something different this time around...

Time, Dr. Freeman? Is it really that time again? (5, Funny)

gapagos (1264716) | about 10 months ago | (#45008653)

Time, Dr. Freeman? Is it really that time again? It seems as if your trademark just arrived.

Great Way to Promote Steambox (4, Interesting)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 10 months ago | (#45008663)

Early HL3 for users.

Re:Great Way to Promote Steambox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45010131)

Possible that that is what delayed HL3 for so long

Episode 3 (1)

sd4f (1891894) | about 10 months ago | (#45008689)

What happened to it? Some time ago, all the talk turned to HL3 instead.

Re:Episode 3 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008843)

Valve originally stated they had plans to release new episodes for HL2 approximately every 6 to 8 months, with episodes 1 to 4 already planned. When this window passed without the third episode, many speculated that Valve had abandoned the episodic strategy and are working on an entirely new game.

From an interview in 2006 [kotaku.com]

Re:Episode 3 (1)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about 10 months ago | (#45008857)

Since the release of Half-Life 2: Episode Two in October 2007, there has been very little news from Valve on the next Half-Life game. Half-Life 2: Episode Three, the third and final instalment of the Half-Life 2 episodes, was expected to follow soon after Episode Two, as Valve had stated that they aimed to release a new episode every six to eight months

You don't call something released 7 years later a new episode.

Re:Episode 1 (2)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about 10 months ago | (#45008903)

unless your george lucas

Re: Episode 1 (5, Informative)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 10 months ago | (#45009195)

I've unlessed my george lucas, your move, creep!

Re:Episode 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008921)

Don't tell that to George Lucas.

Re:Episode 3 (1)

Gareth Iwan Fairclough (2831535) | about 10 months ago | (#45009497)

Since the release of Half-Life 2: Episode Two in October 2007, there has been very little news from Valve on the next Half-Life game. Half-Life 2: Episode Three, the third and final instalment of the Half-Life 2 episodes, was expected to follow soon after Episode Two, as Valve had stated that they aimed to release a new episode every six to eight months

You don't call something released 7 years later a new episode.

Likely eps 3 and 4 have been rolled into hl3. Perhaps as a pair of prologue chapters?

Re:Episode 3 (1)

petermgreen (876956) | about 10 months ago | (#45009103)

No one outside valve is sure but the suspicions are that what was originally targeted to be episode 3 grew and evolved into a project too large to be called an "episode"

Where is left 4 dead 3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008727)

I need both games! The director and Combine ai create the best shooting experiences around.

Gotta Have SOMETHING To Bankroll SteamOS (1)

zenlessyank (748553) | about 10 months ago | (#45008737)

This might be a good way to generate funds lost by R & D for the SteamBox and SteamOS. Especially since I can do what it does with an HDMI cable to my TV!!

Re:Gotta Have SOMETHING To Bankroll SteamOS (1)

nightsky30 (3348843) | about 10 months ago | (#45009031)

While I agree that building a Steam, PC, HDTV setup is easily done by anyone, I applaud Valve for thinking outside the "Box" and giving the everyday consumer choices. I won't be buying a SteamBox, but I will continue supporting their OS and platform. It will be interesting to see how Valve takes Linux and makes it their own.

Why did Valve even bother? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008743)

Does this mean that, if someone had released a game called "Half-Life 3" before this trademark was filed, Valve wouldn't have been able to sue them for trademark infringement?

If the answer is "yes, Valve would have been unable to sue" then the system is really prone to squatting.

If the answer is "no, Valve could have successfully sued the maker of a game called 'Half-Life 3' based on Valve's ownership of the 'Half-Life' trademark," then why did they even bother filing? Doing so doesn't give them any new capabilities (they can still effectively protect the name with their existing trademark registration), takes time and money, and forces them to give away information on a future product (e.g. allowing competitors plenty of time to act on the information, or reducing the time window when the project's existence is a secret and they can decide to delay or kill it without disappointing fans).

Re:Why did Valve even bother? (1)

NettiWelho (1147351) | about 10 months ago | (#45008961)

I want a whiff of whatever youre smoking.

Valve could have successfully sued the maker of a game called 'Half-Life 3' based on Valve's ownership of the 'Half-Life' trademark," then why did they even bother filing?

Firstly, suing someone would cost many times over what simple trademark registration costs.

Doing so doesn't give them any new capabilities (they can still effectively protect the name with their existing trademark registration), takes time and money, and forces them to give away information on a future product (e.g. allowing competitors plenty of time to act on the information, or reducing the time window when the project's existence is a secret and they can decide to delay or kill it without disappointing fans).

Secondly, Valve would be dissapointing fans anyhow if they decided to kill off continuing half-life series regardless if they had never(still actually havent) announced it.

Thirdly, I feel sorry for the poor EA CEO's and whatnot who didn't see Valve eventually possibly coming out with HL3.

Re:Why did Valve even bother? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45008981)

doing so extends the useful period / utility of the trademark, it's much easier to defend in the future given that you publish a half life trademarked item (half life 3)~1-2 years ago, rather then just appealling to the original 1998 of half life trademarked content. Thus it becomes a form of record keeping insurance the coherence of your trademark.

Re:Why did Valve even bother? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009013)

further, they could have released the same game with different models and artistic content under a very different trademark and started an instance of intellectual property. In this way it is very much so linked to Valve's ownership half life trademark, and advancement of such.

w00t! (2)

nightsky30 (3348843) | about 10 months ago | (#45008759)

Very much looking forward to this :) Although I think I might be more excited about SteamOS in general than HL3.

Hard Sell (1)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about 10 months ago | (#45008801)

It needs to have full voice acting and performance capture.(think Beyond Two Souls) It will also need to bring in the people who never played the first two. The engine used in Portal 2 won't be good enough. Of course it could go with a retro ugly look and focus on story. That would be okay if the price was right.

Re:Hard Sell (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | about 10 months ago | (#45009179)

When was the last time anyone in the mainstream focused on "the story?"

The recipe usually goes something like:

  1. Find a dead horse
  2. Beat it
  3. scoop up the fetid remains and place in a horse shaped mold
  4. seal with CGI and plastic
  5. unmold
  6. beat it
  7. repeat steps 3 through 6 until no one will fund a remake

HL3 Will Suck (2)

sexconker (1179573) | about 10 months ago | (#45009069)

HL1 was great.
HL2 was okay. Episode 1 was poop. Episode 2 was okay.
HL3 will suck.

It all makes sense, of course. With each Half Life there's only half of the original(ity) left.

Not in US? (5, Funny)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | about 10 months ago | (#45009101)

There is no equivalent trademark on record at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Maybe that's because their office is closed.

Re:Not in US? (1)

nightsky30 (3348843) | about 10 months ago | (#45009143)

+1 Sir!

Re:Not in US? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009251)

Also in the US you can file for trademark after the fact, unlike in many EU locations where you have to file for patents and trademarks before anything is announced (see Apple biting themselves in the butt recently).

Re:Not in US? (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | about 10 months ago | (#45009297)

(see Apple biting themselves in the butt recently).

I'd love to. Where are the images?

Re:Not in US? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009871)

There is no equivalent trademark on record at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Maybe that's because their office is closed.

Not quite. [washingtonpost.com]

Scroll down a bit, it's still open.

Coming soon, look out for (1)

Anaerin (905998) | about 10 months ago | (#45009369)

Half-Life 2: Episode 2, Part 2. 'cause everyone knows VALVe can't count to 3. On another note, I'm surprised they didn't have this already trademarked.

Half-Life 3 guranteed within 1-2 years (1)

sharklasers (3047537) | about 10 months ago | (#45009523)

Valve couldn't obtain a trademark as a "placeholder". A trademark has to be used on something within a year or so for it to be defensible in a court of law. Hence, if they're specifically getting the trademark now, they're confident they'll have something which it can be applied to reasonable soon.

Of course, getting die-hard Half-Life fans out of the woodwork and interested after all this time might be difficult.

Re:Half-Life 3 guranteed within 1-2 years (1)

flimflammer (956759) | about 10 months ago | (#45009665)

Of course, getting die-hard Half-Life fans out of the woodwork and interested after all this time might be difficult.

Somehow, I doubt that.

Re:Half-Life 3 guranteed within 1-2 years (3, Insightful)

sharklasers (3047537) | about 10 months ago | (#45010053)

I'm the parent poster and I'm one of them. I was a kid when HL1 was release and in Uni by HL2. Now I've got a job, family and less of an interest in gaming than I used to. The time-frame for when the franchise might have mattered has passed a lot of us now.

Re:Half-Life 3 guranteed within 1-2 years (1)

flimflammer (956759) | about 10 months ago | (#45010287)

I understand your rationale, but I think the Half-Life franchise has managed to maintain a level of interest on par or greater than franchises like Duke Nukem. Sure there are many who moved on, but it has been shown time and time again that there is still a very large following for the franchise to resume. It might not be all the same individuals from back in the day but it will definitely thrive if and when it comes out.

Re:Half-Life 3 guranteed within 1-2 years (1)

hattable (981637) | about 10 months ago | (#45010809)

Good, now they can be left to make the game they want to despite all of the fanaticism and buildup that it can in no way live up to. Not saying they didn't appreciate your business in the past, but maybe waiting until there was 'no hope left' by the original fans is the only way to set the stage for a decent (and appreciated) game.

Re:Half-Life 3 guranteed within 1-2 years (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45011139)

The fanaticism is still there though (reddit's a good example of it). It's perhaps a good thing that Half-Life 2 is nearly 10 years old and has aged rather well (good art direction, quality voice actors and an atmospheric/engaging world still make it worth a playthrough), so once HL3 is released the older games can still be revisited with interest to get those who've forgotten the story back on track. Bit unfortunate it'll still require Steam and you'll be forever locked into the Valve ecosystem, but such is life.

Don't you have to file first in Europe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45009687)

I thought European rules were you had to file prior to even discussing the trademark in public, otherwise it is rejected for having prior art, even if it's your own art. Or is that just patents?

Fine, I'll do it (1)

lexman098 (1983842) | about 10 months ago | (#45009831)

I can't believe no one has said it yet, but I guess I'll be the one.

Damnit Gabe just take my fucking money. Take it now!

It shouldve ended with Ep 2 anyway (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about 10 months ago | (#45010155)

The story ran its course and Gordon won. The writing had gotten much less interesting than the first 3 parts. Episode 2 had the "rescue the girl" and "emotional daddy death" that I had predicted the instant I met those characters. It was still fun, but that ending was a slapped on setup for a sequel you'd expect from any franchise fishing for a reason.

It's been so long... (5, Funny)

Kaenneth (82978) | about 10 months ago | (#45010497)

I hope they can get the same voice actor for Gordon.

Re:It's been so long... (0)

Thanatiel (445743) | about 10 months ago | (#45011333)

Why ? Do you really remember his voice ?
Most of players last played it with the Orange Box when it got out, a while ago now. (although hl2dm is still played by a few thousands, but there is no Gordon voice in there)
Episode 2 was about 5 year ago.
Episode 1 was about 9 years ago.

I do not even remember how Episode 2 ended ...

Episodic content ... get out short parts of the game faster so gamers don't have to wait so much ... right.

Lets' just hope it doesn't go the Duke Nukem way ...

Re:It's been so long... (2)

Andtalath (1074376) | about 10 months ago | (#45011711)

*Whoosh*

He doesn't have a voice.
He's never said anything and is the epitome of the silent protagonist.

Unless I'm mistaken, he doesn't even grunt when hurt or when jumping.

Q- Why do they have to trademark their sequels? (2)

aiadot (3055455) | about 10 months ago | (#45010873)

Since this is the perfect opportunity to answer a question I had for aeons: Why do media companies have to register trademark for their numbered sequels of their already registered franchises?

It makes sense for a company like Square to trade mark a game like Chrono Cross (Chrono Trigger sequel) because its a different name. But for games like Half-Life, Final Fantasy, GTA, MGS, I just don't get it. If I, or anyone else no matter how rich, tried to independently release a game called Half-Life 3 I'm sure I'd taste GabeN's wrath, so why to spend money on that?
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