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I have two... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069415)

The first one is used as a media player with the openelec distribution (it's the best one, with a very active community), and the second one is used as a secondary computer, with the raspbian distribution and an amazon kindle used as a display :-)

Re:I have two... (1)

bobbied (2522392) | about 10 months ago | (#45069831)

and the second one is used as a secondary computer, with the raspbian distribution and an amazon kindle used as a display :-)

Pardon my ignorance.. But how do you use a Kindle as a display for a PI?

Re:I have two... (2)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 10 months ago | (#45069897)

I'm curious as well.

I use mine as a XMPP server. The following was before I had a blackout here (Sept. 16):
dmbasso@raspberrypi ~ $ uptime
11:46:25 up 180 days, 10:47, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05

Re:I have two... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070155)

It is possible to use vnc server- client, you will find instructions on mobileread, but I've stopped using that since I only use the shell, the solution is very easy and you will find all the details here:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216501

I have two and, (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069443)

I have done nothing useful with them. They are collecting dust

Re:I have two and, (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069781)

The problem is you, not the raspberry!! :-)

Re:I have two and, (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070123)

Yeah, I could understand owning one Pi that gathers dust. But two? You'd have to be thinking: "you know, there's a 3 inch by 2 inch rectangle on my desk that I'd like to keep dust off of. Maybe I'll buy a Raspberry Pi and just leave it there."

Re:I have two and, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070353)

Maybe I'll buy another one, just to prevent the first two from gathering dust.

Re:I have two and, (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069855)

I have two, also. Although they run Linux, they are slow... really slow. A LAMP system is a joke, not to mention that I get file corruption problems after a careful power-down/halt and reboot. I have one of them running in a telephone monitor application, and that works, somewhat. Linux on the cheap it's not.

Re:I have two and, (4, Informative)

Tarlus (1000874) | about 10 months ago | (#45070805)

Are you running the entire OS off of an SD card? That might be your problem, as SD cards are relatively slow and not designed for frequent read/writes. Databases will rot those things out pretty quickly. Since the SD is required to boot the Pi, I set mine up to load the kernel from the SD and the rest of the OS from a USB disk. It is significantly faster and more reliable, and thus far it has proven to be a pretty solid and reasonably fast personal Linux server. (Though I do run it without X.)

Here's a guide that describes the process.
http://www.dingleberrypi.com/2013/05/install-and-run-raspbian-from-a-usb-flash-drive/ [dingleberrypi.com]

Re:I have two and, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45072033)

without x you can get reasonably fast linux server for varying degrees of server with a pentium 100mhz and 8 mbytes of ram.

without gpio the raspberry would be a joke.

Re:I have two and, (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 10 months ago | (#45073427)

I have been serving a static webpage with lightppd with an uptime of 290 days.

Re:I have two and, (1)

monkeyhybrid (1677192) | about 10 months ago | (#45072457)

How about donating them to a school?

RasPi had so much potential (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069449)

Unfortunately, they made these little computers a bit *too* cheaply. In my experience, their poor power regulation makes them just flaky enough to be totally unsuitable for use as anything other than as a nerd toy.

Which is really too bad - I wanted them to pull it off, and they do make a neat nerd toy, but in any kind of actual production use where random failures are a Bad Thing, and failure to boot is damn near guaranteed to happen occasionally, they are unsuitable.

On the other hand, I hear that the beaglebones have solved this problem, though I've never laid hands on one myself.

And on the gripping hand, Arduino has been, for me, open source and cheap done properly. Love that kit.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

Anrego (830717) | about 10 months ago | (#45069589)

I think that was kinda the intent though.

The stated goal early on was to be an ultra-cheap computer for students to mess around with, not to be a low cost SBC for production use. That said, it does make an awesome nerd toy, and probably will find real use in production in cases where random failures can be tolerated (driving the display monitors that seem to be all the rage everywhere seems a really good example).

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069999)

And also, Eben and the Pi foundation stated in the past that they would be super excited if other companies took thier lead and created competing products. This is exactly what happened. you can have a Pi A ~$30, Pi B ~$40, BeagleBone ~$45 (adafruit prices). The landscape is about to get larger with the Arduino TRE. I'm SURE the Pi foundation doesn't care if you buy a Pi or something else, as long as you're exploring, making cool things, and sharing your knowledge with the community.

I recently picked up both a Pi B and a BBB. I'm using the Pi as a print controller for my RepRap. (changed desktop computers and wanted a cheap system I could freeze the SW stack on). I've found the the Pi to be a much more seamless platform. On my BBB, the default ssh server was broken (not too hard to fix), I couldn't mount an smb share at all (no kernel module available, but it was listed...), and I couldn't get a vnc server up (might retry this one). I've been much happier with my experience with Raspbian than Angstrom. That said, the BBB builtin web server with IDE and shell is pretty cool. I'll probably move my BBB to one of the other OSes available. (Disclaimer: in the past I've dug through Arch, Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora, some mini distros like puppy and DSL, and gotten partway through LFS. Debian is my go-to though.)

I don't know what I'm going to do with the BeagleBone yet, just bumbling along til I think of something neat.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069615)

What power regulation issues have you run into? I'never had any trouble with mine, do you use an approved/ verified charger? There is a list somewhere on the raspberry site... Currently I'm using an amazon charger with 2.1 Ampere available

Re:RasPi had so much potential (2)

Joce640k (829181) | about 10 months ago | (#45070403)

He obviously didn't bother to read the documentation and tries to run hard disks without a USB hub, etc.

Rules about current consumption are only for losers.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45072857)

You're holding it wrong.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (5, Interesting)

ledow (319597) | about 10 months ago | (#45069691)

Same here.

My RPi from the very first batch has been gathering dust ever since I ran into a whole bunch of power and USB issues (the USB and SD port - or is it the Ethernet and SD, I forget? - both compete for bus resources and slagging any one of them can *silently* drop packets on the other). They tried to fix it but their debugging was non-existent for so long I stopped providing helpful data. About a year later, they put out a firmware fix that basically bodges things because the hardware design can't be changed.

Couple with initial compatibility problems resulting in sending my SD card to Broadcom themselves at the request of some RPi folks and then NEVER hearing anything back, not a dicky-bird, and still having the problems on even the latest firmwares, and the whole thing ended up in the attic. You honestly can't use a device that has problems that intermittent / unpredictable under heavy load, especially when all the interesting stuff will keep it under heavy load for the majority of its runtime.

Some day I'll knock it up to be a doorbell or some other non-critical electronic project but it's really just-another-IC to me at the moment, so it's gathering dust. Keeping it purely for future nostalgia value ("I remember I spent fucking months trying to get this to work!") and the fact that selling it isn't worth it because they cost so little.

Depending on your definition, they delivered the device they promised. Trouble is, it's next-to-useless for anything non-trivial in the homebrew-gadget department and don't even get me started on their selling this to schools (I work in schools - I showed everyone, from teachers to decision-makers to techies, right at the peak of the popularity of the launch when it was featuring on the BBC. We unanimously agreed that it was a nice gadget that, if you have the knowledge to use it with the educational resources provided - which is next to none - then you don't need it and can do much more interesting things on an ordinary PC).

Re:RasPi had so much potential (2)

ledow (319597) | about 10 months ago | (#45069789)

Oh, forgot to say.

The biggest use of it I ever had was - I needed to display a PC on two large external monitors connected over HDMI via 50m CAT6 runs on an extender. The extender for one of the displays broke.

Fortunately, I only needed to clone the image onto all the displays, so I put the RPi on the Cat6 behind the display, plugged it's HDMI out into the display, wired the cable to be Ethernet, had the RPi boot to a VNC viewer, and ran a VNC server on the machine that had the display.

It was small enough, low powered enough, on-hand at the time, and didn't take long to bodge. That was about it's only saving grace, but to be honest I had at least three backup plans that I nearly put into action anyway, it was such a faff.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 10 months ago | (#45069915)

did they finally fix the 'elephant bug' (as its called)?

that was the #1 showstopper for me continuing to use the rpi.

the ethernet was not reliable since it went thru usb and usb was the problem!

without 100% rock solid usb, the board is not trustable.

the power supply issue is not hard to work around but the usb bug was a major issue and an embarassment.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

ssam (2723487) | about 10 months ago | (#45070819)

I've had no trouble with network. I'm using NFS and ssh to move files andstream audio. (but i assume those protocols are robust against the odd dropped packet)

Re:RasPi had so much potential (2)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 10 months ago | (#45070489)

While I have found a good use for my Raspberry Pi (outgoing VPN Gateway), I have found there are some severe limitations. I would like the ability to have an actual SATA or IDE storage device. I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure it's the lack of DMA that causes all the problems. I could consistently crash my Pi running torrents and writing to the SD Card. Writing to the USB slot got rid of the crashes, but the disk I/O was still the limiting factor in how fast I could actually get the downloads, and my internet connection isn't really all that fast. I would also like a networking port, preferably Gigabit, but 100 mbit is fine, as long as it doesn't run off USB. USB is fine for mice and keyboards, but really sucks when you're trying to do heavy I/O, especially when you have such a weak processor.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071043)

Well my daughter's school is using it with MIT Scratch which has Pi-specific plugins to allow you to control the GPIOs directly. Then the whole board goes onto a robotics platform and drives around while you access Scratch on the desktop over VNC to control it all.

I'm not sure how you go about doing that on an ordinary PC.

I guess imagination is the key here ...

Re:RasPi had so much potential (2)

bobbied (2522392) | about 10 months ago | (#45069883)

their poor power regulation makes them just flaky enough to be totally unsuitable for use as anything other than as a nerd toy.

Last I looked, the Pi depends on the power regulation of the power supply being used. I've had no problems with my Pi's but I also have 2 Amp capable 5V supplies and I use short USB cables to power the thing. I've not had any stability problems.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

tchuladdiass (174342) | about 10 months ago | (#45073245)

I had problems initially with the adapter that came with my Nokia phone -- it was labeled as 1.5 amp. Got a bunch of errors on boot if a keyboard, mouse, and ethernet were all plugged in. Then I switched to the adapter that came with my Samsung galaxy nexus -- rock solid.

What I'd like to know, for anyone else having problems, does switching to a "known good" power source help? And what other good power sources are there that are readily available (such as maybe one of the Apple usb chargers)?

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

beltsbear (2489652) | about 10 months ago | (#45070273)

I am sure you are using a knock off USB power adapter to run your Pi. The Raspberry Pi's I am running have not crashed over long periods of time. Some generic USB power adapters put out huge amounts of noise and are not regulated well.

Re:RasPi had so much potential (1)

randomuser2 (1626103) | about 10 months ago | (#45071491)

I wanted to thank you for the Mote in Gods Eye Reference. Fun.

UK... greetings from Greece... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069459)

UK... Sinclair ZX-81, Amstrad CPC-6128 (my own favorite), and some other great stuff - greetings from Greece... i know how it feels to be a fallen empire of the past!

Dirt cheap thin clients. (2)

Forbo (3035827) | about 10 months ago | (#45069461)

Congrats on the milestone!

Our business uses them as Linux Terminal Server Project thin clients. We were able to cut our new hardware costs to 1/5th of what they were before.

Good work guys. (5, Insightful)

Anrego (830717) | about 10 months ago | (#45069489)

People thought it would never get it off the ground. Then people thought it would never ship. Then that it would be plagued by problems and die. Then that it would never hold interest long enough to get to the point where you could get one without waiting 6 months.

There are still lots of haters, talking about how there are better “alternatives” out there (alternatives usually being 3 or 4 times the cost, impossible to get, or apples to oranges).

That said, I can order a perfectly functional unit, for the promised price, and have it here (in Canada) in about 4 days. I’ve got 5 of them now. I’d call that a huge success.

You brought something awesome into the world, and I thank you :)

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069651)

What do you use them for?

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070107)

I suspect the core fanboys like the OP eat them

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071489)

And they taste like raspberries.

Re:Good work guys. (2)

Anrego (830717) | about 10 months ago | (#45070859)

I've got 2 of them driving displays. Basically just running X with appropriate xauthority setup and synergy.

One of them I'm using as an isolated computer to do all my banking/financial stuff on. This replaces a an old P2 box I was using for this purpose.

Another I'm just messing around with (playing with the GPIO pins mostly).

And I've still got one still in the box.

Re:Good work guys. (1)

carlhaagen (1021273) | about 10 months ago | (#45069665)

"There are still lots of haters, talking about how there are better “alternatives” out there (alternatives usually being 3 or 4 times the cost, impossible to get, or apples to oranges)."

The MK808B, just to name one example out of many, isn't 3 or 4 times the cost, nor is it impossible to purchase. At $45 including shipping It's less than twice the cost. But why are people who widen their horizons, or require more computational/graphical power "haters"? That sounds pretty damned narrow-minded.

Re:Good work guys. (3, Insightful)

Anrego (830717) | about 10 months ago | (#45069767)

Nothing wrong with people using other products that better suit ones needs, the hate part comes from people measuring the pi against alternatives that are either more expensive (at that scale, $10 is huge), doesn't do the same thing (no video output, runs android, etc..), or impossible to get hold of.

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069967)

the mk808/908 which is mentioned has hdmi video output with audio in, and runs linux if you so want to. really, why do you think any of these devices -don't- have video output?

to show what the mk808/908 offers and clearly illustrate exactly how many fathoms better than the pi these things are: 2-4 cores, 1.6 ghz clock, 3-4 times faster gpu (can actually decode 720p/1080p video without stuttering like the raspberry), 1-2 gb ram, wifi, bluetooth, microsd slot, dual usb, 8gb internal flash for operating system + user storage, for less than $50 with shipping included in the price. sure, it has no composite video out and no analog audio out. big deal.

seriously, why do you people have such a hard time accepting that hardware gets better and better with time? it's like you refuse to accept that technology improves. heck, the pi isn't fabulous by any extent, and wasn't even "hot" when it was released.

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070063)

1.75million sales say you're full of shit.

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070947)

This is exactly the kind of vacuous and ignorant fanboyism RPi warriors have hanging over their heads :) Cheers for the stereotypical comment.

Re:Good work guys. (1)

Anrego (830717) | about 10 months ago | (#45070565)

That list of differences wasn't specifically against the mentioned alternative.

I haven't specifically looked into the MK808B, but just based on a quick image search, the lack of GPIO pins stands out.

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071075)

Further up in your thread, someone asked you what you do with those 5 Pis you have, and you responded "Another I'm just messing around with (playing with the GPIO pins mostly)."

Yeah we can definitely see how the lack of GPIO pins on the Tronsmart MK series stand out as a vital, crucial missing feature here, since you use the GPIO pins for "just messing around with". This is typical of overly enthusiastic fanboys. Trying to belittle factually better hardware won't make your lesser capable favorite device any better than it is.

Re:Good work guys. (1)

Anrego (830717) | about 10 months ago | (#45071349)

Lack of ethernet port would also stand out for those 3 use cases. I don't use wifi at home, it would probably suck for X forwarding, and certainly wouldn't be ideal for an isolated machine used for banking...

That aside, those are just my 3 immediate uses for it. I haven't had time to get any of my planned projects off the ground yet (my specific interest is GPIO + opendds (or some other dds-esq message/data middleware))...

Re:Good work guys. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45072289)

Is it really "factually better" if it's not even as capable as an Ouya?

Re:Good work guys. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069983)

MK808B

No Ethernet (but 11n which might be more useful for some), runs Android (although apparently one can put Ubuntu on it), and most importantly: no GPIO. I'd say it falls in the "apples to oranges" category.

great, more landfill fodder. (-1)

nimbius (983462) | about 10 months ago | (#45069549)

ive never cared for the Pi for a few reasons, call me a hater but ive reasons..
1. power: this thing is emaciated by any standard. its got plenty of connectors but driving a media center like XBMC is a chore. with 15 watts of power i can trounce this thing with an Atom.
2. its encumbered, so enjoy one more $45 product that kicks FLOSS to the curb.. Beaglebone isnt encumbered...but beagleboard isnt the word for god on the lips and hearts of every blogosphere hipster.
3. it has no practical use. wireless access point? for 5 watts more you get better antenna gain, a better transciever, and PoE in a $35 tplink package. media center? enjoy the one skin for XBMC you can actually run, and the analog audio for icecast streaming will grind it to a halt.

i like low-power embedded stuff, you should too, but there comes a point at which it needs to do something otherwise its just more electric garbage. if you want to run a kegerator with it, or a home automation server, then i still suggest beaglebone http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone [beagleboard.org]

TLDR: hipster blogcred articles make my shit itch.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069707)

Note that Adafruit has the BeagleBone for 45$:
http://www.adafruit.com/products/1278
It has 512MB, onboard flash, HDMI etc.
And it seems there are plenty of connectors for hackers...

I have not checked the parent's claims about this card being more open but this beaglebone looks very interesting.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

w1zz4 (2943911) | about 10 months ago | (#45071151)

No Hardware video decoding is the answer you are looking for... For low cost HTPC Pi still the best.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069713)

i agree fully. it's an overhyped device, by any measure. $40-$50 gives you a tinier arm soc with dual usb ports, wifi, bluetooth, dual cores, faste cpu, faster gpu, 1gb of memory etc. etc. which you can actually use for a lot of stuff instead of just, after 5 minutes of booting, showing the raspbian desktop and consuming power without being able to offer much in return for it.

i find the denial of the raspberry pi fanboys striking, in how they refuse to accept the shortcomings of the pi, and refuse to accept the other soc devices on the market.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069777)

Yes the BBB has more IO capability on paper - e.g. 6 (8?) PWM channels, and yes the BBB is very fully documented.
In practice, only 3 of the PWM channels are usable at any one time due to driver bugs, and community support generally boils down to "read the (4,500 page) technical reference manual" and "try writing your own device tree overlay".

Where the BBB does score is in raw MIPs - *if* you can get e.g. WiFi working on one of the floating point distros.

Overall the BBB is like the Affordable Care Act: they had to build it to find out what was in it (the AM355x).
Hobbyists should wait for the Arduino Tre ("BeagleBoneBlue").

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

bobbied (2522392) | about 10 months ago | (#45069801)

ive never cared for the Pi for a few reasons, call me a hater but ive reasons..

Beagle board over the Pi? To each their own I guess. I like cheap myself....

This software/electrical engineer own two Pi's and I see why they are popular. They are CHEAP and reasonably well supported. They are also easy to setup and use in most suitable applications and they are CHEAP. I do not complain about lack of horse power or about the Pi's other limitations because it is CHEAP. My only complaint about the Pi is the card slot is way too easy to break, but you can replace the slot or just replace the Pi because it is CHEAP. Even being CHEAP, the Pi can be used to stream HD media, browse the web and a whole host of things you can imagine, just remember that it really can only do ONE thing at a time, but it's CHEAP too!

The Pi was designed around one major goal, to be CHEAP. That is where the Pi shines and the secret to it's success, it is inexpensive to get started and CHEAP to replace when it breaks.

Finally, unlike other projects running 2-3 times the price (Of which there are many and the Bebalboard is an example), the Pi is CHEAPer..

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070021)

The problem with the pi is;

A) there are no open drivers for the graphics, that part is apparently ultra closed.
B) It uses an ass backward old version of the ARM architecture which nobody else uses anymore.
C) It doesn't have any /real/ Ethernet port, it's hung on the USB.
D) There is only ONE Ethernet port. (Ok, it's not all that necessary, but it would be really useful.)

I can't imagine any of that would have been particularly difficult to think of from the start, or would have made the device significantly more expensive.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

ssam (2723487) | about 10 months ago | (#45071011)

Can you recommend a board with a GPU that has acceleration with an opensource driver. The current state of opensource ARM seems a bit basic http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ3MTM [phoronix.com] . Even intels minowboard uses one of the powervr GPUs that tainted half the netbooks back in the day.

The old CPU is a shame, but its been fast enough for me so far. For my MPD server I replaced a Beagleboard with RaspberryPI, which is plenty fast for streaming playing FLACs and MP3s.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

Mdk754 (3014249) | about 10 months ago | (#45070713)

You emphasize "CHEAP" so many times in your post, yet the Pi is $40 and the BBB is $45 at adafruit. Is $5 seriously the line between cheap and not cheap? Not to mention the hardware is better in just about every way. Your problem is you're too much of a Pi fanboy to see that the "other projects running 2-3 times the price" are either before the dawn of the cheap SBC market or well out of it's scope. Not to mention the GP you refer to even mentioned this $5 difference. You're so caught up in your Pi delusions that you can't see what's right in front of you.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

bobbied (2522392) | about 10 months ago | (#45070989)

The begalbone in your link lists for $89 MSRP. It has less memory and is a whole lot less popular than the Pi. So it's more expensive and has additional limitations. But if you like them, by all means, buy them and have fun.

But my point is that the Pi is supposed to be what it is. It is cheap, inexpensive, low cost, educational computing device that is as CHEAP as possible so it can be used by as many folks as possible......

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

mirix (1649853) | about 10 months ago | (#45073009)

The newer beaglebone, the beaglebone 'black', is $45 everywhere. This is the best thing raspberry pi has done, I think... make beaglebones cheaper.

It's got:
1GHz arm of some sort,
512MB RAM, 2GB flash storage onboard, more through SD slot.
Ethernet that isn't a hackjob attached to USB
USB (host and device)
HDMI
an asston of i/o compared to pi.
mounting holes aren't a fucking afterthought. Jesus christ, talk about amateur night.
has two microcontrollery type peripherals (on die) for delegating low level IO stuff to. I haven't played with that, but it sounds like it could be pretty useful.

In addition, there's actual mechanical drawings of the bloody thing! wow!
Months ago I was working on a 'shield' for a pi, and mech drawings do not exist. I was completely dumbfounded at the oversight. Such a joke of an outfit, everything is so half-assed.

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071855)

The Pi Model A is $25; I'd say "a little more than half the price" counts as "cheap", especially if you don't need network connectivity. On the other hand, the BBB is probably preferable to the Pi Model B in just about every case except video (IIRC the BBB doesn't do 1080p). And most uses of video on the Pi are media centres that would be better served by one of the numerous Android dongles they make these days.

(Also, you're about the third or fourth person to comment that the BBB is "$45 at adafruit". Given that the only time I've seen it for more than $45 anywhere is as part of a kit, is it really necessary to say "at adafruit"? They're not hiring Slashdot shills now, are they? :-) )

Re:great, more landfill fodder. (1)

ssam (2723487) | about 10 months ago | (#45070879)

> 2. its encumbered, so enjoy one more $45 product that kicks FLOSS to the curb.. Beaglebone isnt encumbered...but beagleboard isnt the word for god on the lips and hearts of every blogosphere hipster.

The beagleboard uses PowerVR GPU, which requires a closed driver for acceleration.

Haven't got one, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069597)

...I do have another, better ARM SoC, that provides me with more than twice the amount of RAM, almost twice the clock frequency, two processor cores and about three times the GPU power. My device is actually a good desktop solution, unlike the Raspberry Pi. Here's a big hurrah, not to the Raspberry, but to ARM SoCs and the ARM revolution!

I have one! (4, Interesting)

nurhussein (864532) | about 10 months ago | (#45069637)

I'm using it to learn about ARM, and write baremetal code for it. Maybe it'll morph into a little OS. It's lots of fun. Anyone else doing this?

Re:I have one! (1)

jeremyp (130771) | about 10 months ago | (#45069765)

I did that for a bit. I got to the point where I could put text on the screen before I got distracted by something else. I'm currently planning to repurpose my Pi as a media centre for my parents' kitchen. If it works out, we'll probably replace it with a more powerful machine.

Re:I have one! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069923)

You won't be doing any bare metal development on the rpi thanks to Broadcom. TI would've been the smarter choice for hackers.

Re:I have one! (1)

BobNET (119675) | about 10 months ago | (#45070217)

I'm thinking of it (using https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi [github.com] as a tutorial), but seeing that I just got around to writing "Hello, world!" in an x86 boot sector a few weeks ago (and that's cheating since I'm able to use the BIOS), I might be a while :-P

jep (1)

lapm (750202) | about 10 months ago | (#45069657)

I use mine for php/python development platform, very nice, very easy to move with me if needed. Just little sad broadcom is not exactly opensource and those chips are locked down pretty tight even on datasheet side.

using it as a robot mainboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069733)

I like to build robots and drones, and I've found it a nice mainboard. A tad on the big side (bigger than Gumstix) but much cheaper. OK for most purposes.

So many uses (4, Informative)

nickovs (115935) | about 10 months ago | (#45069803)

I have four RPi boards. One monitors my UPSs, cleanly suspending my server when the power goes out and sending wake-on-LAN massages to it when the power comes back up so that the UPS only needs to drive my switch and AP, one has a camera board and does motion detection to spot people coming into my office, one is currently operating as a Bluetooth LE beacon for testing the new iOS iBeacon stuff and one is just for tinkering. Most of these have a few other services running on them too (two have I2C thermometers on them).

I see a lot of negative comments about the Pi being underpowered. Perhaps if what you want to do is run FPS games or you are trying to run Big Data analytics then this is true but it's plenty powerful enough for a whole host of service tasks. It's not that many years ago that the Pi's level of power would have been considered a high-end desktop configuration. The purpose of the device is to give kids a low-cost entry into programming and it does just that. On top, at $25 for a Model A its fine to put in 'dangerous' places where something bad might happen to it (like outdoors, driving the sensors and servos for my Halloween decorations). No, I don't have my MongoDB server on a Raspberry Pi, but for many many projects they are just about perfect.

Re:So many uses (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070271)

You're a moron.

Re:So many uses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071941)

To the man/woman who wrote this: you made my bad day even worse than it already was. Thank you!

Re:So many uses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071975)

Now there is a man who likes to make complicated solutions to simple problems. If it's your way of having fun, thats totally cool but there is a large middle ground between what you're doing and running FPS games and Big Data. The RPi isn't suited for much of that either.

The RPi is a great thing for hobbyist projects and a place to start learning, don't get me wrong. It has a little of everything, but for many it also means not enough of anything.

Router (3, Interesting)

duppyconqueror (1161341) | about 10 months ago | (#45069829)

I'm using it as a home router. It connects to my cable modem and two wireless access points. One access point is a guest network for all the randos who come visit and want to get on wifi, and the other one is for my family's use. I have dhcp handing out IPs, and iptables rules preventing communication between the networks and haxors from the cable modem side. So far, it has worked great, and if an access point ever dies (which seems to be an increasingly common occurrence), I just have to swap in a new one with minimal reconfiguration.

Should get mine today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45069835)

I'm just getting it to tinker with. After I get bored with it I might throw it out there as a Minecraft server. It seems to have the guts to be able to handle a 4-5 slot server. That's more than what I need. I'd be interested to hear from others who have used it for Minecraft and some of the ups and downs they had.

Multi-purpose box (1)

Blakkandekka (924328) | about 10 months ago | (#45069849)

Currently using it with XBMC to watch BBC iPlayer - it's bridging the gap in the living room while I decide which 'proper' media box to buy (a Roku maybe). Once that's done I'll either re-purpose it into a print server to get the printer off the desk it's currently on or just have a play with Python with my 13 year old son. Once you've got one hanging around it'll fill any number of niches.

RasPi Terminal Server (2)

dir-wizard (549259) | about 10 months ago | (#45069867)

This may sound a bit old school.. All my linux servers are headless and use a NULL-Modem (RS232) to access their console. My Raspberry PI (with raspbian) uses a 4 port USB-Serial adapter to connect to all my servers. I connect to the RasPi over the internet using SSH (No Passwords - Certs!) and then use conserver (www.conserver.com) to manage the machines.

Two "A"s and a "B" (3, Informative)

smurd (48976) | about 10 months ago | (#45069873)

I use the A modles to run composite video loops in a bar, and the B as a ethernet->WiFi router (and video too).

I have 2 (3, Interesting)

OldGoatDJ (1497245) | about 10 months ago | (#45069875)

I use one of mine in my Linux class to show another flavor of Linux and to demonstrate networking. I have used the other one, with a webcam and speakers, to facilitate a scary halloween display.

Public display Adaptor (1)

gnalre (323830) | about 10 months ago | (#45069887)

Using it to display photo's on a public display panel. Also looking at using one as a wireless router

Re:Public display Adaptor (1)

smurd (48976) | about 10 months ago | (#45069953)

Using fbi? I'm just about to write a framebuffer slideshow for my "A"s.

They are great! (1)

guillebot (541194) | about 10 months ago | (#45069919)

First as media center (Raspbmc), second as home automation (openhab).

I've got 3 (1)

LordWabbit2 (2440804) | about 10 months ago | (#45069965)

I've got three
Using one in the garage for a remote camera with motion sensing on it (wireless dongle for network)
Hooked to the TV in the spare bedroom so any guests can check their mail and do some surfing
Was using one for messing around with for electronics but my media centre died and I'm using the PI for that, bit underpowered for the job but it works ok.

Probably going to order a couple more for other things I want to do.

Geeky in multiple ways (1)

djlemma (1053860) | about 10 months ago | (#45070023)

I am using my Pi to provide video for a costume I'm making. It's for a character who has a television for a head, and being the electronics nerd that I am, I decided to make my costume version with a functioning TV. I got a cheap old LCD TV from eBay, and put some content on a loop on the Pi, and got some batteries to power it all. Very simple, and the connection is straightforward since the Pi has an RCA composite video out.

Of course, it's going to be a crappy costume unless I can figure out a way to make a nice shell to cover it all. So far my attempts at using fiberglass have been....mixed. :/ But for reference, the character is Prince Robot IV. [wikia.com]

So many uses, so little time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070027)

I use mine as a pulseaudio sink. I also have several other SD cards for other purposes, such as XMBC and router development.

Eventually I want to do some hardware with it - I am going to build a Wi-Fi model rocket launch system. The Pi will sit (protected of course, silly) under the launch pad with a lead-acid battery and a little bit of circuitry. The idea is to use a laptop/tablet/smart phone from 20m away to ignite the motor. The systems in the local hobby shops are all wired, leading to trip hazards and possibility of damage to equipment.

I agree that it isn't a high powered workhorse, but there are *so* many applications that really don't need that much power.

Anyone have a link or two to a suite of USB connected sensors (temperature, salinity, nitrates, nitrites, etc) for aquarium monitoring? (Think: graphing these with Cacti...)

The bigger news - made in the UK (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070071)

Proof positive that manufacturing can still be done in the West affordably.

A "knowledge-based" economy can only go so far, "products" based on an artificial concept (fiat currency) are only worthwhile if everyone agrees the currency has value.

I applaud the Raspberry Pi team for making the UK manufacturing a priority.

Great work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070079)

One Million Pi's sold, with a slashvertisment each...

My pi is about communication (1)

fisted (2295862) | about 10 months ago | (#45070275)

irssi, bitlbee, fetchmail, mutt

also, it's my (inbound) ssh gateway
what could possibly go wrong, right? :)

Gameshow Controller (1)

Wizworm (782799) | about 10 months ago | (#45070281)

My pi is wired up as a Gameshow controller. I bought two 4 inch buttons from Adafruit, they're wired up as a 2 player controller, with sound and light.

Survey Says?
Buzz
Player 1 your answer?

it was a huge hit for a large crowd

RasPlex HTPC (1)

whizbang77045 (1342005) | about 10 months ago | (#45070399)

I use the Pi as the processor/display generator for a RasPlex system. While IMHO it isn't really fast enough for all 1080 video, it's plenty good enough for 720. That makes it a cheap alternative for things like our bedrood system. Although the RasPlex software is still in development, it works well enough for the purpose at hand, and better than some supposedly mature software. It's downloadable at http://rasplex.com/ [rasplex.com] The Pi is a nice little building block when you need a small, relatively inexpensive building block. It's been criticised for requiring an extermal power supply, keyboard, etc etc. But that seems to me to be a part of the building block idea. I wouldn't really want something that committed me to too many details! And, as someone has pointed out, you don't really need a permanent display, keyboard, or mouse, since it can be controlled over the network. I think it would make a nice router, if you wanted to really customize things.

I have three. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45070547)

My first one is currently hosting a Mumble server for myself and a few friends who use it to talk to one another while we play some game or just chat while we're on our PCs.

Second one is hooked up to my UPS via USB that shuts down my FreeNAS boxes, and restarts them once power is back up.

Third is under my salt water aquarium, hooked up to a thermometer and digital salinity/ph meter. Sends out an email if things get out of tolerance.

Its the perfect little device for those who have the time and freedom to tinker, can code, and have imagination.

arm development (1)

oojah (113006) | about 10 months ago | (#45070955)

I use mine to create raspian packages for some software I make, so others can use it more easily. Boring, but much easier than cross compiling!

http://mosquitto.org/ [mosquitto.org]

Weather Station, time sync (2)

EricTheRed (5613) | about 10 months ago | (#45071101)

First one has been running for well over a year now connected to the Weather Station, uploading to various locations including twitter. The Register even picked up on this one as part of a 20 things to do with a pi.

The second is an NTP server using GPS as the time source.

The third is a pure experimental/dev PI.

I've got one more model B & two A's just waiting for a project.

Been meaning to setup a PI Cam on one to complement the weather station so that I get a sky camera (cloud cover by day, long exposure at night for meteor's etc.

Cable replacement (1)

sweBers (2469450) | about 10 months ago | (#45071329)

I live in the U.S., and most people believe that cable/satellite TV is as much of a necessity as power and water. I cut my cable a year and a half ago, and haven't looked back. I have a Linux distribution that finds TV shows and stores them on a network share (semi-autonomous), then the family can use raspbmc to watch what they want using an Android as a remote. I was concerned that my family wouldn't be able to use it, but then my son turned it on and watched Pokémon by himself. It's been chugging along by itself for quite some time now; I am quite pleased.

Dr P, Inc's finest creation (1)

DrPBacon (3044515) | about 10 months ago | (#45071547)

Dr P Linux :D OpenGL on Arch ; Bluetooth Apple keyboard support ; various connectivity ; visualisation generator ; cloud platform

Web power strip and door annoyer (3, Interesting)

verifine (685231) | about 10 months ago | (#45071659)

We had a web power strip at work (8 outlets, control via web interface) go stupid. Rather than toss it, I brought it home and used 8 GPIO pins on the Pi to control the relays. It has a new web interface with direct control, control by time of day and control by offset from sunrise/sunset. My fireplace mantle lights turn on at 40 and 39 minutes before sunset. One turns off at 11 PM and the other turns off 30 minutes after sunrise. Currently at 275 days runtime. Sweet!

The boss bought one at work for a special project. Our janitors always block open the door to a room containing network switches and patch panels. Boss has tried for 12 years to get them to keep it closed. One Pi plus a pair of USB powered (analog input) speakers and mpg123, plus one GPIO pin connected to a magnetic reed switch on the door. Leave the door open for more than 60 seconds and one of two dozen prerecorded voices ask politely but loudly that you shut the door. Another message gets played every 15 seconds until the door is shut. Had some fun working on an algorithm that isn't quite random, so it prevents replay of a message until at least 1/3rd of the other messages have been played. Problem solved, the door is always shut now. 90 days uptime on that Pi.

Love em!

Well done! (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | about 10 months ago | (#45071661)

I have a Pi and have been pleased with how it has performed. They're not super powerful and they're not made for mission-critical applications, but they're a great toy to tinker with and a great way to learn and experiment. That was their goal, and in that, they have succeeded. Congrats on the success!

In-Vehicle Infotainment System (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071803)

I have two RPi's. One is used as an IVI and the other acts as a BT audio sink for the sound system in my workout room.

All kinds of experiments (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45071915)

I have got two units (model B), one with a camera. So far, I've only experimented with them (using as an info screen, motion-activated camera, making some analog measurements using gertboard's ADC, etc).
Planning to make a small mail/webserver to cut electricity bill (I have a spare SATA SDD drive and USB/SATA adapter), maybe "remote control" for our summer place.
The main value in RPi is that it is compact/cheap enough to still make complex to happen (much more power than Arduino/AVRs). Ideas are coming all the time and it usually takes an evening to try out one or two (given knowledge of Linux).

Toy (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | about 10 months ago | (#45073355)

I bought mine as a toy, and that's what I use it as, for the most part. I've got other hardware that's better-suited to use as a media center. I've gotten my $35 of enjoyment out of playing around with it, though.

Home automation (1)

robpow (2772251) | about 10 months ago | (#45073421)

The RPi makes an excellent home automation controller, mine's running Domoticz (www.domoticz.com) and controls some lighting and reads wireless temperature sensors around the house. It's small and cheap and fast enough for this but I wouldn't run anything more advanced like a full LAMP stack or as a full time user desktop.
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