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Windows RT 8.1 Update Pulled From Windows Store

Soulskill posted 1 year,4 days | from the gone-but-not-forgotten dept.

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UnknowingFool writes "After reports of update problems including bricking of some devices, Microsoft has pulled the 8.1 update for RT from their store while they investigate. 'Microsoft is investigating a situation affecting a limited number of users updating their Windows RT devices to Windows RT 8.1. As a result, we have temporarily removed the Windows RT 8.1 update from the Windows Store. We are working to resolve the situation as quickly as possible and apologize for any inconvenience. We will provide updates as they become available.' While update problems are not new to software, could this be a consequence of Microsoft not releasing 8.1 RTM to developers? Developers may have experienced problems earlier and alerted Microsoft before it went live."

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Postie frist. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177199)

Now bring on all the "Here in Australia..." comments.

On the other hand (1, Offtopic)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177203)

My Surface Pro (not RT) update went swimmingly.

Its faster than it was before. Oddly, I now have two voice recorder apps. ?
But everything I previously had on the machine works perfectly.

Re:On the other hand (5, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177279)

Except, unfortunately for you, it's still a Surface Pro.

Re:On the other hand (-1)

Sir_Sri (199544) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177343)

The surface pro is fine - other than for having an Ivy bridge, which isn't microsofts fault.

But that's not all that relevant when the problems are with the ARM devices.

Re:On the other hand (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177423)

Obvious troll is obvious.

Re:On the other hand (2)

lgw (121541) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177909)

The only problem with the Surface Pro is price - it's a fine tablet and actually has software, since it's easy to port normal Windows stuff. It's the RT that has the limited system library, and so only new apps.

Re:On the other hand (1, Informative)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177993)

"Easy to port normal windows stuff".

No port necessary. Period.
Just install. Done.

Yeah, the price is too high. Drop that by 1/3 and it would be price competitive, drop it by 40% and they would sell every one they could make.
It is a really well thought out tablet. A bit Too heavy. Battery life needs improvement. But I still like it, Windows 8(.1) and all.

Its faster than my 10 inch Android tablet, but a lot easier to adapt to business use because of software compatibility.
This is where RT fails.

Re:On the other hand (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178181)

I think Microsoft's may be tiring of products that stay in the loss leader category for years at a time.

Re:On the other hand (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178239)

Faster? Cite a reference maybe?

Re:On the other hand (4, Informative)

Joe U (443617) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178341)

Faster? Cite a reference maybe?

He's talking about the Pro. Which has a Core I5 w/ Intel HD 4000.

In simple terms, it's faster. If you want to get detailed, it's much faster.

Re:On the other hand (4, Informative)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178377)

I just gave you a reference.
My Surface Pro is Faster than MY 10 Inch Android Tablet. (Acer A700.)
It might not be faster than yours.

Boots faster. Sub 6 seconds from power off to login ready.
Loads Google Chrome Faster. Switches apps faster.
Runs Vmware.
Runs Linux and FreeBSD inside of VMware virtual machines.
My day job still requires windows. It runs all my compilers, linker and debugger, etc.

Go try one out at a nearby Mall or something, instead of beating me up.
I was a doubter too. Played with one at the Microsoft Keosk for 15 minutes. They even let me install software (Visual Studio).
I ran some tests, and slapped down my credit card. I never even looked at the RT units.
You can dis this machine just because its windows (if that't your game), But as a Windows machine, its a pretty sweet package.
Its a full 64bit WinTel machine.

Re:On the other hand (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178421)

The problem is not whether MS has made a good product, I do not care if surface pro is better until MS plays it fair as a business.
The problem is microsoft, they have hurt the state of computing and other businesses with their practices.

Re:On the other hand (1)

DavidClarkeHR (2769805) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177297)

My Surface Pro (not RT) update went swimmingly.

Its faster than it was before. Oddly, I now have two voice recorder apps. ? But everything I previously had on the machine works perfectly.

Not surprising - The x64 / x32 versions never stopped working.

Though, if you had an older (AMD) processor, 8.1 never really started working...

Re:On the other hand (0, Redundant)

SerpentMage (13390) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177377)

Did you know I can swim in water? Yeah it is pretty amazing you know!

WTF you ask? Well, in the article it says: Microsoft has pulled the 8.1 update for RT from their store....

You then wrote, "My Surface Pro (not RT) update went swimmingly". I reply? Really? No shit Einstein, especially since it seems that your system is not affected! So go ahead mod me down, and call me flame bait, but I was actually looking for comments where they talk about RT and not releasing to developers and their experiences with RT...

Re:On the other hand (1)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177703)

SerpentMage has been assigned as hall monitor.

He said he really wanted the job because it vexed him so when people used to run along the corridors in high school.

His rainbow is now reached.

His potential fulfilled.

And he may die happy.

Re:On the other hand (5, Funny)

olsmeister (1488789) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177517)

My Surface Pro (not RT) update went swimmingly.

Its faster than it was before. Oddly, I now have two voice recorder apps. ? But everything I previously had on the machine works perfectly.

Apparently the update inadvertently exposed the previously hidden voice recorder app placed there by the NSA. Oops!

Re:On the other hand (3, Interesting)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177661)

They did add quick access to the camera without unlocking the tablet. That had me indignant as hell when I touched the screen to unlock and saw me staring back at me with a surprised look on both our faces.

Then I realized my fingers had accidentally swiped the wrong direction. Turned that off.

Re:On the other hand (1)

war4peace (1628283) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178003)

I love that feature on Android, though.

Re:On the other hand (3, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178049)

I love that feature on Android, though.

Me too. I use it ALL the time.
But I refuse to participate in that duchebaggery of being seen in public holding up a tablet to take pictures. :-O

Re:On the other hand (2)

Opportunist (166417) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178029)

What? That's you?

Call Microsoft and tell them that you're that guy where the update worked! I bet they want to hear that there actually is someone.

Re:On the other hand (1)

icebike (68054) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178053)

As I mentioned, the PRO is not the RT, and the RT is the only model having a problem.

They Just Can't Catch a Break (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177211)

They just can't catch a break. Definitely a lot of distraction going on in the company with the unknown next CEO.

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (4, Insightful)

justthinkit (954982) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177243)

Yes, sure, it is all about not catching a break.
.

How about this? No one wants to use an RT, even to test it. Sure it gets tested by QA people, but no one wants to use it all day every day, trying to get useful work done. So an update is sent out the door with little to no real world testing.

RT is clearly a brand of dog food no dog wants to eat.

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177319)

I wonder if MS employees are forced to use MS products?

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (3, Insightful)

RMingin (985478) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178099)

Not forced, no. I recall Ballmer throwing a minor shitfit a few years back when he walked around the MS office campus and noticed that EVERYONE was using an iPhone.

Of course, right after that he bought Nokia and forced WinPho8 down the world's collective throats, so it may have changed since, but it's likely that it's encouraged but not required.

Re: They Just Can't Catch a Break (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178281)

Saw two guys at Starbucks, both with Windows phones. I said wow, I have never seen a person with a Windows phone, much less two. They said we work for Microsoft.

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177795)

Just out of curiosity: have you used an Rt? And if so, for any length of time? Or is it a case like most nay sayers who clicked it on in a store and said: I hate these tiles and left it at that?

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (5, Insightful)

RMingin (985478) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178113)

I have. It reminded me a lot of my first generation iPad when I got it. Potential maybe, but stifled by lack of non-basic apps that people want to use. Apple got through that stage by being the only serious players in the market. MS is going up against two deeply-entrenched and not-deeply-retarded adversaries, I don't see it working out as smoothly.

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (0)

real gumby (11516) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178175)

How about this? No one wants to use an RT, even to test it. Sure it gets tested by QA people, but no one wants to use it all day every day, trying to get useful work done. So an update is sent out the door with little to no real world testing.

RT is clearly a brand of dog food no dog wants to eat.

You sound like a blind Microsoft hater. If nobody used RT it wouldn't matter if 8.1 were buggy or not.

More likely two of the RT users had problems with 8.1 and MS decided to pull it before the third user got around to upgrading too.

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (0)

norite (552330) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178413)

Go take a look at ebay and see how many second hand surface rt's there are for sale. It's a total dud, and people who got burned are desperate to offload them.

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (1)

real gumby (11516) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178419)

Whoosh!

Cheers,
g

Re:They Just Can't Catch a Break (3, Insightful)

man_of_mr_e (217855) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177521)

Yeah, especially since MS *DID* in fact release 8.1 RTM to developers early. So the question posed in the article is based on a false premise.

Microsoft needs to stop fucking up the PC (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177217)

Seriously, the PC is important, and Microsoft is killing the platform. The universal computer is what drives innovation, not the consumer machines that Apple and Google are selling.

Re:Microsoft needs to stop fucking up the PC (2)

binarylarry (1338699) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177369)

Are they killing the platform or opening the door so it can be freed?

Re:Microsoft needs to stop fucking up the PC (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177453)

well when they locked down the bios so nothing else can be loaded I would say the answer would be killing it.

Re:Microsoft needs to stop fucking up the PC (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177803)

What innovation in the last 15 years had anything at all do with a PC? Idiot.

serves them right (5, Funny)

hjf (703092) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177219)

Serves them right. Microsoft should have learn already that the way to release stuff is to put a BETA label in it, like Google does with everything else. Service unavailable? BETA! Unexpected error? BETA! Lost all your data? BETA!

Beta is a blanket term for "we can charge for this but if it breaks it's not our fault".

Come on, MS. You're lagging behind.

Re:serves them right (-1, Offtopic)

ghada2013 (3402919) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177421)

[nile7.com]

Re:serves them right (3, Insightful)

asmkm22 (1902712) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177589)

This should be modded "Insightful" not "Funny."

Re:serves them right (0)

mcgrew (92797) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177941)

Hey, watch it buddy, that comment came up when I metamoderated and I agreed, funny.

I mean, it isn't like it's a big secret or anything. Oh, you need to clean the elephant poop off of your rug...

Re:serves them right (2)

bmo (77928) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178097)

"Along with the standard computer warranty agreement which said that if the machine 1) didn't work, 2) didn't do what the expensive advertisements said, 3) electrocuted the immediate neighborhood, 4) and in fact failed entirely to be inside the expensive box when you opened it, this was expressly, absolutely, implicitly and in no event the fault or responsibility of the manufacturer, that the purchaser should consider himself lucky to be allowed to give his money to the manufacturer, and that any attempt to treat what had just been paid for as the purchaser's own property would result in the attentions of serious men with menacing briefcases and very thin watches. Crowley had been extremely impressed with the warranties offered by the computer industry, and had in fact sent a bundle Below to the department that drew up the Immortal Soul agreements, with a yellow memo form attached just saying: "Learn, guys."

-Good Omens by Terry Pratchett.

--
BMO

Another one (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177221)

There is also a widespread issue with updating to 8.1 failing with a 0xC1900101 - 0x40017 error [infoworld.com] on PCs.

Re: Another one (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177493)

yeah, got that last night. funny thing is, i didn't bat an eye. I was too busy hacking my iomega ix-2 NAS.
- sucker for sucky products.

Re: Another one (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177547)

I received that error and after four tries I got it narrowed down to my mouse driver. If you have a steel series device uninstall. If you have an nvidia gpu, make sure you update before install

Re:Another one, what a shock (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178443)

If I remember right for all the crap Google has done and this post..

""Serves them right. Microsoft should have learn already that the way to release stuff is to put a BETA label in it, like Google does with everything else. Service unavailable? BETA! Unexpected error? BETA! Lost all your data? BETA!

Beta is a blanket term for "we can charge for this but if it breaks it's not our fault".

Come on, MS. You're lagging behind.""

MS has a history of screwing up updates, going back to XP, updating it would cause all kinds of problems, and slashdotters have pointed this out several times. Besides it has been questioned that updating XP alone, also exposes blatant exploit holes, you'd be better off not bothering, and waiting for another full release.

Obligatory (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177227)

Several of the nine affected customers were disappointed.

Re:Obligatory (2)

mcgrew (92797) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177953)

Several of the nine affected customers were disappointed.

Get an account, that was funny but the mods never saw it.

Re:Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178019)

Only funny the first thousand or so times the same damn joke has been made.

Re:Obligatory (2)

Opportunist (166417) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178055)

What? Every single customer of that thing was affected? Wowie...

To quote Rick Perry: (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177229)

oops

Re:To quote Rick Perry: (1)

gtall (79522) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177499)

Hey, maybe MS could get Rick Perry to run it. They have similar philosophies of believing of chimeras.

Re:To quote Rick Perry: (1)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177755)

They have similar philosophies of believing of chimeras.

Hey! *I* am a chimera!

(and have been since my bone marrow transplant - 100% chimera - my blood and bone marrow has my donor's DNA, the rest of me has what I was born with)

Re:To quote Rick Perry: (1)

mcgrew (92797) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177971)

I'm confused, doesn't a chimera have to be two different species, not different organisms? Like someone with a pig's liver? Just a friendly question from a cyborg...

Re:To quote Rick Perry: (1)

foobar bazbot (3352433) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178207)

Hey! *I* am a chimera!

Did you seriously just post that without calling GP an insensitive clod?

This is /., we have^Whad standards.

Bricking? (3, Insightful)

cyberjock1980 (1131059) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177249)

It's bricking when it cannot be fixed. This can, hence the article summary is wrong. Wake up editors!

Re:Bricking? (4, Insightful)

Mondor (704672) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177309)

Ordinary users can't revive the dead tablet, even if it only fails to load the touchscreen drivers. Tablet becomes the photo frame, showing the log in screen. Unless other drivers failed as well, or tablet is asking to navigate to skydrive to get the bitlocker key, but you don't have any other computer. Besides, the on-screen keyboard doesn't function, so you can't enter it.

Yes, you can get over some problems with Windows 8 tablet if you have USB hub, flash drive, ISO image of Windows 8, USB keyboard and mouse... But I am talking about ordinary users, not geeks.

Re:Bricking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177355)

Bricks can't display photos or log in screens.

Re:Bricking? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177621)

Well, Windows RT 8.1 bricks actually can.

Re:Bricking? (1)

sjames (1099) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177717)

Take one brick, one snapshot, and one roll of tape. I'll bet there is some way to get that brick to display the photo.

Re:Bricking? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178063)

No, but this brick can show you some shiny stars!

*hurls it*

Re:Bricking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177603)

I posted a blog entry with step-by-step guide for "ordinary users" to follow to fix it

Re:Bricking? (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178217)

1. Find receipt.
2. Return to store where it was purchased.
3. Demand refund.
4. Buy iPad or Android tablet.

Re:Bricking? (3, Informative)

sjames (1099) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177695)

Bricking means it can't be revived by ordinary measures. Most bricks can be fixed with JTAG or a soldering iron, but they're still considered bricked.

Re:Bricking? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177983)

The moderators are all smoking pot this Saturday night, I see. The only mods are +5 funny when you should be sitting at +5 informative.

Too bad I don't need karma or I could clean up tonight (yeah, I just burned one).

Windows (3, Funny)

0123456 (636235) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177259)

There are a ton of people complaining about things no longer working after the 8.1 'upgrade'. Thank God I run a nice, reliable operating system like Linux instead of this crap that breaks machines every time you try to upgrade.

Re:Windows (0)

SerpentMage (13390) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177383)

Well, I run Linux as well. But to say that Linux does not have this crap is actually an understatement. Linux these days does have its issues. I run Ubuntu and the 13.04, 12.10 upgrade was very painful. Even now on some machines I still run 12.04 as some software simply does not work.

Re:Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177479)

wooooooooooooosh

...I think

Re:Windows (1)

0123456 (636235) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177669)

Yes, I was actually parodying all the Windows users who used to make fun of Linux for breaking things on upgrades.

Re:Windows (1)

TheSeatOfMyPants (2645007) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177675)

Try other distros. I had problems galore as an Ubuntu user for my first 2 years with Linux, then finally tried distro-hopping and was shocked to find that overall they were just as easy to use (especially the apt/Synaptic-based ones) and a lot more stable.

Re:Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178051)

Meanwhile I'm running a debian wheezy system that started life as potato...

Re:Windows (1)

mcgrew (92797) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178015)

I take it you never "upgraded" to KDE 4.2... my computer still has nightmares about that foul beast. Or worse, GNOME. Thank God I was warned about Unity.

But yeah, the nice thing about linux is KDE sucks? Well, swap desktops or distros (I just dialed mine back until it got less retarded).

Poor Windows users. That's what they get for using a toy OS.

Re:Windows (1)

Opportunist (166417) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178071)

Well, the main difference is probably that you not only investigate whether your next update bricks your system but you can also decide for yourself whether and when you want the update to happen.

Re:Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178115)

Win8 makes a fine addition to the "things that suck" collection.
It joins WinMe, Vista, Zune, Kin, Messenger, IE6, Bob, Mobile.
Maybe MS marketing just tosses shit against the wall to see what sticks?

Does Healthcare.gov run 'Doze on the server? (-1, Offtopic)

smitty_one_each (243267) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177261)

That might explain a few things.

Of course (2)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177269)

I'm so glad that oracle pointed out the flaws of open source! I would hate to think of bad code stemming from proprietary ideologies.

These devices were bricks even before the update (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177277)

The update just makes it official.

Nothing to see here, just M$hitting itself again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177295)

You would think they'd have finally invested in a QA dept. for their major releases. Marketing dept driving deliverable dates again?

affecting a limited number of users (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177323)

hm, you don't say

Only one thing broken so far... (4, Informative)

madmarcel (610409) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177439)

Upgraded my laptop the day the update became available in the store...have only noticed two odd things so far:

VLC is dead. Crashes immediately, then gives error about failing to send an error report. Yay. Uninstalling and reinstalling made no difference. Double yay.

Pictures used for wallpaper, screensaver, login screens, etc changed after reboot. Bizarre, but easily fixed.
I should note that I had to google how to change some of these back to original settings, as not all of these are changed from control panel. and the actual
setting I was looking for is hiding behind a GUI element that doesn't look clickable. That annoyed me more than anything else.

Re:Only one thing broken so far... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178037)

What a great operating system you spent money on!

Re:Only one thing broken so far... (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178139)

To be fair these could happen with Mac OS or definitely Linux as well. Losing background pictures is pretty minor.

no beta test? (1, Insightful)

v1 (525388) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177523)

could this be a consequence of Microsoft not releasing 8.1 RTM to developers?

Seriously? They didn't seed that to the devs for a week or two? That's just plain stupid. Only reason I can see for pulling that is if there was a serious problem they needed to get fixed quickly.

Also raises the question of how much they really care about the performance and stability of RT on other manufacturers' boxes?

8.1 update (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177597)

Let's see: I updated 3 desktops and 2 Rt devices and not a glitch was I lucky or is there something else going on? Time to bash MSFT again, eh?

Re:8.1 update (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177849)

Let's see: I updated 3 desktops and 2 Rt devices and not a glitch was I lucky or is there something else going on? Time to bash MSFT again, eh?

Not sure, one went fine for me, the other one is stuck in a "getting devices ready" - reboot circle.

Windows 8.1 + disabled SecureBoot == Watermark (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177725)

I just upgraded my PC (non-RT obviously). Because I use UEFI and my install is on GPT, AND I have SecureBoot disabled to be able to easily boot linux, I must now suffer a permanent "Windows 8.1 Pro\nSecureBoot isn't configured correctly\nBuild 9600" watermark in the lower right corner on my desktop. There does not seem to be a way to just disable this message, short of using a resource editor (or disabling other security measures, such as UAC).

Q [microsoft.com] : Does Secure Boot prevent me from dual-booting or running other operating systems on my PC?

A: No. UEFI's Secure Boot feature prevents the computer from starting unsigned and unauthorized operating systems. This can prevent certain types of malware (e.g., Boot Kits) from starting on your computer. If you want to single- or dual-boot a Windows 8 certified PC with an operating system that does not support Secure Boot (e.g., Windows 7 or Linux), you can disable Secure Boot."

Sure, you can disable it, but then we'll punish you. Essentially Microsoft are saying, enable SecureBoot or else...

enterprise will not stand for that what MB / syste (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177921)

enterprise will not stand for that what MB / system has this BS?

and why no secure boot for win 7??

Re:enterprise will not stand for that what MB / sy (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178199)

It's not MB specific. The logic seems to be that if the environment supports it, but secure boot is disabled, then show watermark.

A multitude of different systems are affected [google.com] , from typical boards used by enthusiasts to OEM laptops where the Secure Boot options have simply been "hidden" away to not confuse users.

I could understand a temporary alert... but this is fucked as hell.

do servers have the same logo? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178473)

If so then that can be bad for them

Some devices got bricked (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45177727)

The users this happened to are now celebrating the increased value of their purchases, as their investment is no longer just landfill, but a slate AND a brick which are both valuable building materials.

Help me understand this (1)

roc97007 (608802) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177869)

> "After reports of update problems including bricking of some devices,"

Hang on, aren't all Windows RT machines exactly the same hardware? How could there be differences between machines where an update would brick some and not others?

And the Windows 8 journey just keeps getting more entertaining.

Developers may have experienced problems earlier.. (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177903)

Developers may have experienced problems earlier and alerted Microsoft before it went live."
Duh, you think? Only a Microsoft exec would be dumb enough to think otherwise.

Who could have predicted (2)

Horshu (2754893) | 1 year,4 days | (#45177945)

Running the Apple walled garden model against a variety of hardware, and your rapid updates brick some of the models. Shocked - SHOCKED - that there's gambling going on in this establishment.

Re:Who could have predicted (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178195)

Newsflash fuckwad: Windows RT is just as much a "walled garden" as iOS is.

Re:Who could have predicted (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178253)

Pretty sure that was his point. If Apple had to support multiple hardware platforms (not just their "make it a little better so people think they need a new iDevice every year" difference, but actual differences), they would have issues too.

Re:Who could have predicted (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178259)

He's calling it a walled garden, are you short in the reading comprehension department?

I Won In A Prize Draw This Week... (1)

Craig Levine (3403067) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178043)

...Wednesday to be exact. A Wholesaler had a drawing after a vendor event. Last year I won my iPad at the same event. I also own a Nexus 7, and was willing to give this Microsoft Tablet a go. At the very least it could be used as a HTPC lite or something. It's 1080P output via a Micro HDMI port was beautiful, and a full-size USB port was a bonus, as was the Micro SD slot. The lower-rez screen was a disappointment. After 24 hours and a concerted effort to find a use-case for it, I quickly grew to hate the thing. The apps were poor and half-baked, the live-tiles became annoying, and apps that I love and need weren't available for the platform, yet were available on all of my other devices. VLC Media Player was $13.99 or something close to it. The Interface is, for me, a great big bucket of suck. Luckily, I upgraded to 8.1 and the thing promptly borked. Even with the volume off, it emitted an annoying whiny buzz when keys were pressed (I bought - and returned - a keyboard cover) or when it booted, or when you swiped the screen. The wholesaler gave me a Best-Buy gift receipt with it, so when I returned the godawful thing on Friday, I came away with a $397 store gift card. This will be applied to a nice DSLR camera sometime in December.

Re:I Won In A Prize Draw This Week... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178119)

"VLC Media Player was $13.99 or something close to it".

How cheap!

Re:I Won In A Prize Draw This Week... (1)

Craig Levine (3403067) | 1 year,4 days | (#45178455)

VLC is awesome and is, in fact, worth the price. However, on a standard Win7 and every other platform, it's free. Given the severe obscurity of 8.1 RT, I recognize development costs have to be recovered, or something, in order to satisfy the demands of the 11 people who begged loudly for it. I think the price is more of a coded warning: "Beware! Here be dragons!"

Does anyone use this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178101)

Does anyone still use that old microsoft?

Reports of RT 8.1 issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,4 days | (#45178355)

Seems your article has some issues with it. Such as incomplete/false information. Are you a Yahoo writer? The only fact you actually present is that

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