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Biological Clock Discovered That Measures Ages of Most Human Tissues

Soulskill posted about 10 months ago | from the you-have-the-genes-of-a-97-year-old-man dept.

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starr802 writes "A biological clock capable of determining how old different human tissues and cells are has been discovered by a team of researchers from the University of California Los Angeles (abstract). 'To fight aging, we first need an objective way of measuring it. Pinpointing a set of biomarkers that keeps time throughout the body has been a four-year challenge,' Steve Horvath, a professor of human genetics at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and of biostatistics at the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health said in a statement. 'My goal in inventing this clock is to help scientists improve their understanding of what speeds up and slows down the human aging process.'"

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medical benefits? Yeah, right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45192217)

This technology will be used only for forensics.

New drug name "Wind Up" (1)

greggman (102198) | about 10 months ago | (#45192235)

Just wind up your biological clocks with "Wind Up"(tm). Our medicine will reset all your biological clocks. Feel young again! ..

consult your doctor before taking "Wind Up"(tm). Side effects include laughing, loving, and lasciviousness

Re:New drug name "Wind Up" (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 10 months ago | (#45192539)

Just wind up your biological clocks with "Wind Up"(tm).

Try moving your mouse pointer repeatedly clockwise.

consult your doctor before taking "Wind Up"(tm)

Doctor who?

Re:New drug name "Wind Up" (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 10 months ago | (#45192919)

Side effects include laughing, loving, and lasciviousness

And anal seepage. You can't have a drug without that as a side effect.

Oh, wait, that was Olestra [cspinet.org] , a food additive and not a drug.

Re:New drug name "Wind Up" (2)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about 10 months ago | (#45193573)

Side effects include laughing, loving, and lasciviousness

And anal seepage. You can't have a drug without that as a side effect.

When I was very young, I did get a little anal seepage from time to time.

REPORT CLOSED: WORKS AS INTENDED

Re:New drug name "Wind Up" (1)

mrego (912393) | about 10 months ago | (#45193073)

Better than using Diomedian scarlet moss to measure aging time?

Re:New drug name "Wind Up" (1)

Requiem18th (742389) | about 10 months ago | (#45194317)

...and tumors.

Re:New drug name "Wind Up" (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 10 months ago | (#45197975)

It's NOT a tumor!

Children with progeria make results inconclusive (5, Interesting)

willthiswork89 (2885827) | about 10 months ago | (#45192279)

If you the TFA you will see at the bottom an interesting note: "In an unexpected finding, the cells of children with progeria, a genetic disorder that causes premature aging, appeared normal and reflected their true chronological age" Doesn't this make the results inconclusive at that point? Since children with this disease age faster than anyone else? If his "clock" was accurate wouldn't these children display clocks point to a much older person?

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (5, Insightful)

GerardAtJob (1245980) | about 10 months ago | (#45192391)

The core discovery is nice, even if their problem isn't the there : Their clock is normal BUT their cells interpret it incorrectly, so the problem could be found elsewhere, like a bad clock multiplier when overclocking your PC (could result with it being slower or faster).

At least, now you know that the problem is not the "aging flag" itself, but something that's reading it.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (1)

mythosaz (572040) | about 10 months ago | (#45193899)

...like a bad clock multiplier when overclocking your PC (could result with it being slower or faster)....

This is Slashdot, sir. Couple you place restate your analogy using cars? Maybe something with transmissions or torque converters?

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (1)

Megane (129182) | about 10 months ago | (#45218711)

It's like when you put the gate on your shifter upside-down. So instead of first gear, you get fourth. And reverse? Ouuuuuch.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (1)

mikael (484) | about 10 months ago | (#45192465)

The activity of the immune system has something to do with this too. You can either have an hyper-activated immune system and it will kill every slightly mutated cell, causing premature aging. Or you can have a suppressed immune system in which case, cancers and tumours are more likely to grow.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 10 months ago | (#45192543)

Did the article imply that the clock was use in that way at all? The body read sthe clock and then decides to recede a hair line, put in a few more grays, or make your bones more brittle?

I would imagine a clock like this is used more for general maintenance, knowing when a cell needs replacing/cleaning/replenishing.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 10 months ago | (#45192557)

It's a real-time clock, apparently.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45192699)

Obviously progeria causes asynchrony then.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (1)

timeOday (582209) | about 10 months ago | (#45193053)

The results are inconclusive because the technique is not fooled by progeria?

Whoever said progeria has the same underlying mechanism as actual aging?

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (4, Insightful)

RedBear (207369) | about 10 months ago | (#45194003)

If you the TFA you will see at the bottom an interesting note: "In an unexpected finding, the cells of children with progeria, a genetic disorder that causes premature aging, appeared normal and reflected their true chronological age" Doesn't this make the results inconclusive at that point? Since children with this disease age faster than anyone else? If his "clock" was accurate wouldn't these children display clocks point to a much older person?

Maybe. If progeria were literally "premature temporal aging". But it isn't. It's just a genetic disorder that causes certain symptoms that appear similar to premature temporal aging. Nobody on Earth has ever actually "aged" faster or slower than anyone else. A 35-year-old person with a full head of prematurely gray hair is still the same actual age as all other 35-year-old people. He or she just has premature graying; a specific symptom of a very specific biological system, which resembles a symptom of general aging. But the gray hair does not mean the person has actually aged 90 years while the rest of us have aged 35 years. It just means that some metabolic process has reacted differently at a different time on the biological clock. Now we have to figure out what triggers all of the other independent metabolic systems to react in certain ways when they read certain timestamps from the biological clock.

What the result regarding progeria cells tells us is that this biological clock quite literally tells time, i.e. the actual temporal age of the organism. Like tree rings. Which is interesting in and of itself. If this clock is accurate enough we might finally have a way to test whether those people who are supposedly 120 or 130 or 140 years old are really as old as they think they are or whether they're just misremembering what decade they were born.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (3, Informative)

Gr8Apes (679165) | about 10 months ago | (#45194235)

Progreria is not actually an aging process, although it has many of the appearances of aging. It's actually a defective protein encoding that weakens cells and shortens cell lifespans. This is not a process that occurs during normal aging. So the finding confirms what you'd expect to find in the cells of progeria affected individuals.

Re:Children with progeria make results inconclusiv (1)

Joviex (976416) | about 10 months ago | (#45201119)

Not necessarily. Think of it this way: Hang two wall clocks, one inside your house, and one outside. They both keep perfect time, but over time, the one outside, battered by wind, sea air, etc... corrodes quicker, the outside beaten all to hell. So, appearance is aged, internals are aged, but both can still keep the same time (up to a point of course) which is akin to what happens to kids with progeria.

The most interest part was this (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 10 months ago | (#45192317)

Turns out breast tissue in women ages faster than most of the rest of their bodies.

However, read the actual paper which describes the population chosen for the study first. Don't draw conclusions based on news reporting, which is almost always wrong.

Re:The most interest part was this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45192489)

Turns out breast tissue in women ages faster than most of the rest of their bodies.

This could lead to a whole new subset of horrible pick-up lines.

Re:The most interest part was this (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 10 months ago | (#45192923)

Hey, if her old breasts are hanging so low you have to pick them up for her, that's a bad sign.

Re:The most interest part was this (1)

Jmc23 (2353706) | about 10 months ago | (#45193329)

That's only true for those women who really wished their breasts to grow faster.

Its good they're doing this research (5, Interesting)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 10 months ago | (#45192329)

A lot of the problems in our society would be corrected if people lived a great deal longer. That is counter intuitive because many people believe we have over population issues. But in the developed world we don't. The issue is actually that our mortality rate exceeds our birth rate. The difference made up in immigration.

Worse, we have big problems with education and not just education but experience. We invest a lot in people for relatively few productive years of service. Imagine if you could train someone up and they'd be viable in that job for 50 years. Obviously some booster training over the years as required. But consider the wealth of knowledge people would bring to the table.

It might stagnate certain segments as industries became saturated with people more accustomed to older tech... but then we might just get standards that update the tech without changing the way you use it.

Who can say. Regardless, life extension would be useful.

That said, I don't think this discovery is going to be particularly useful in it. Sure. Great they're doing this research and good for them for finding something. But the clock they found appears to be correlative instead of causative. Its a log. Its tree rings. It doesn't cause the aging it is instead caused by the aging.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | about 10 months ago | (#45192467)

Well, it would certainly take care of the "who cares? I'll be dead by then anyway!" mentality.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45192639)

But consider the wealth of knowledge people would bring to the table.

They bring that knowledge to the table right now, and the employer would still rather have two fresh college grads.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45192767)

Personally, I'd take two hot college chicks over a wrinkly, old, grumpy guy.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45194303)

More like, the employer would rather have two old buddies or two cheap imported slaves.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (2)

bob_super (3391281) | about 10 months ago | (#45192709)

I'm scared that for you living longer means more time to work.

I know why it's socially the right thing, what that money thing we've got going on, but it just makes me sad.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

sandytaru (1158959) | about 10 months ago | (#45193009)

It could be a split. Living longer AND healthier means more productive years, which could also spin into saving better for a longer retirement. I wouldn't mind working 'til I was 100 if I had an expected lifespan of 150 years. And working for 50-70 productive years instead of just 30-40 means it'd be easier to save enough to straight up live off investments during retirement.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (2)

alexgieg (948359) | about 10 months ago | (#45195743)

I'm scared that for you living longer means more time to work.

I remember reading a mathematician who took to calculate how things would work were death by disease and age abolished. His conclusions were more or less like this: people would live on average 500 to 1000 years then die from violence or accident (evidently some would die at 10 or earlier like today, some would live to many millennia); a pair would be allowed to have a child per century or so to account for people dying so as to keep the population stable (allow for space exploration, new world and the like and that's relaxed); and retirement would have to be abolished, probably replaced by a 10 year sabbatical every 40 years of work or so (paid for by the savings you accumulated over that timespan), allowing for people to take a world cruise, study, change careers etc. so as to avoid boredom.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 10 months ago | (#45198427)

Why? Work is one of the things that gives us purpose. And if you have a career it can even define your role in society.

now many people have jobs they hate that don't represent them at all. But maybe if you had more time you might work your way into a more pleasurable career.

Maybe you'd even had an early life career to make a nest egg and then use that to augment a later career that might not pay as well or that might need some start up cash to get going.

Think of the potential for small business. Lets say the pattern might be that when you're very young you wash dishes and mow lawns. When you're a little older you do some horrible desk job in a cubical. And then when you're a bit older you start your own little business that makes you happy and where no one gets to order you around.

Already a lot of people do that. So why not make that a thing.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

bob_super (3391281) | about 10 months ago | (#45201651)

"So why not make that a thing."
I did say that we have that social thing going with money, so i know the following can't work without major structural changes:

But if you could live longer, wouldn't it be better to spend the extra time learning that always-postponed piano/tourism/archery/bobsleigh/reading the whole library of congress, and having fun with real people, not customers?
Yes, doing a job you actually like can be on that list, but what's the likelihood that the next wall street drop and healthcare over-inflation will convince you to stay in the crummy job that pays better another year, or maybe 5, make that ten, just in case.... given how fast many of us already are past subsistence and into frivolous, I don't know if the math works if we have 7+ (10 by then) billion people living much longer and all working productive jobs for a hundred years. We may have to all get on the Ark B assembly line (go on a 9-year trip to Saturn like you used to go 2 months trekking Asia).

I'm rambling, but the point is the old "work to make a living, don't live for work" comes to mind, when the living part gets longer.

Death is a good thing. (1)

TiggertheMad (556308) | about 10 months ago | (#45193071)

A lot of the problems in our society would be corrected if people lived a great deal longer.

A lot of problem in society are corrected when people die. A friend of mine loves to repeat a saying he picked up somewhere: "If you could live to 1000, imagine all the weird kinds of racist you would be".

You really want assholes like Strom Thurmond living to the ripe old age of 1000?

Re:Death is a good thing. (1)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45193645)

You really want assholes like Strom Thurmond living to the ripe old age of 1000?

Sure. He wasn't a bad guy. I rather him not be a senator for that long though.

And for all your yacking, a lot of problems would be dealt with because they would be in peoples' lifetimes rather than a few generations down the road and without a lot of fake urgency.

Re:Death is a good thing. (2)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 10 months ago | (#45198407)

So long as there were term limits, I don't have a problem with it.

You think there aren't young racists? You do know we have lots of racists under the age of 20... of all races, genders, religious backgrounds, and sexual orientations. Any flavor of person out there is going to come in the racist variety. Welcome to planet earth.

I'd much rather have seasoned racists that have at least been around the block a few times then naive ones that on top of being bigots are also clueless of just about everything.

Here is the thing. Its a zero sum game. Over time assuming your brain didn't rot, you'd have more knowledge and your character would be more seasoned. You'll probably be a better person at 60 then you were at 20 especially if you get to keep a mostly young body. What is more, you'll be more useful to society. You'll pay taxes. You'll participate somewhat intelligently in the political process.

And the whole thing will be a giant hedge against volatile cultural/political/economic trends because the majority of the population will remember previous ages and will know if things can be done better. They'll see things and say "I remember when we didn't have that problem because we didn't do that other thing." And maybe... MAYBE they'll say "okay, lets not do that anymore because it clearly not working out."

Think further of the highly technical professions. Engineers. Doctors. Scientists. Imagine once getting trained up to their profession they could give you a century of useful work before dying. See. That makes them more useful.

Right now we have to invest about 25 years in a person to train them up to that level. From birth to when you could roughly call them an actual scientist or Doctor. But today... they'll probably retire at 50 or 60. Which means you put in 25 years of teaching to get out MAYBE about 25 years of work. And even then there is a horrific failure rate with many people being taught things that they never apply to anything.

Its a question of efficiency. Doubtless you'll argue here that science would stagnate without old scientists dying off and old doctors dying off to make way for newer practitioners that will embrace newer methods. Possibly. Actually, that will in some cases certainly happen. We see it today in several fields. But if its an issue then you can address it. Force them to update at intervals. There are many ways to do that short of death.

Re:Death is a good thing. (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 10 months ago | (#45214277)

Nah, instead they pass it to their children. Things like tea are an artifact of this. Drinking plant water isn't "natural" (like all the commercials claim), but a by-product of times when water was deadly. You had to boil it first, and boiling it in dirty cookware made it bitter and taste funny. So we ritualized adding in some plant matter to flavor it. Now that we have good sanitation, we still drink flavored drinks.

Just about anything with an "acquired taste" is something passed down by parents. So just killing the parents doesn't help. They pass down their silly rituals and racism and such to their kids. Maybe not as strong, but it's still there.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45193099)

I think you underestimate how bad the overpopulation really is. The advantages you mention pale in comparison to the problems we will encounter because of overpopulation, even without any kind of life extension.

Just look at the worlds resources and how they are all being spent at a frightening pace. And I am not just talking about oil. I mean all of them. Raw materials, food sources, clean water, a nice, clean place to live. The possibility to get away from other people sometimes. Waning Bio diversity, species are extinct every day.

And then consider that you and I are probably part of the 20% of the population that uses 80% of the resources and that the other 80% wants the same living standards as we do. And they will get it, or devastate the world while trying. Not blaming here, just a fact, most people want at least as much as their neighbor has. And we are certainly not going to accept a huge reduction in our wealth. At least not without a fight.
Add to that not only the consumption of resources but also the pollution it will cause and it is quite clear that this cannot end well.

On the other hand, maybe I just have this negativity gene, http://slashdot.org/story/13/10/13/0254227/gene-variant-can-cause-nattering-nabobs-of-negativity [slashdot.org] , they recently found. Although I think it should haven been called "realist gene" :-)

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45193715)

Just look at the worlds resources and how they are all being spent at a frightening pace. And I am not just talking about oil. I mean all of them. Raw materials, food sources, clean water, a nice, clean place to live. The possibility to get away from other people sometimes. Waning Bio diversity, species are extinct every day.

Yet Julian Simons won the bet [wikipedia.org] .

And then consider that you and I are probably part of the 20% of the population that uses 80% of the resources and that the other 80% wants the same living standards as we do.

Since the living standard is not based on a fixed amount of pollution, it'll just be provided at a small portion of the pollution at somewhat greater relative cost. It's also worth noting that most of that pollution actually comes from the countries that have 80% of the population. As they deal with those pollution problems, the problem will go away naturally.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Nephandus (2953269) | about 10 months ago | (#45193887)

Naturally? You keep using this word...

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45194183)

By naturally, I mean due to the dynamics of the established system. We know that all wealthy societies greatly reduce pollution and those societies which aren't in that category are all growing wealthier. So the dynamics are such that as the less wealthy societies continue to improve, they'll cut down on pollution.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 10 months ago | (#45195467)

Yet Julian Simons won the bet.

You might want to read down a little further in the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager#The_proposed_second_wager [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager#Other_wagers [wikipedia.org] (especially the last sentence of this section)

Simon got lucky once. His track record overall isn't so hot.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45195979)

Point is that Simon shouldn't have been lucky once. The bet was heavily favorable to Ehrlich.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Nephandus (2953269) | about 10 months ago | (#45193815)

Considering most people aren't paying into the pretense of a system what they cost, and that a great many worthless jobs are created with tax money just to pretend they're doing something to earn the pay(out), I think you're failing to grasp what overpopulation is. Squeezing us all into the creeping totalitarian regime that'd be the metaphorical sardine can here necessary to remotely approach a "maximum population" isn't OK.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 10 months ago | (#45198353)

And of course... population control administered by a benign birth bureaucracy will be better.

I'd rather have over population then that crap.

Odds are.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45194029)

...immortality will be invented shortly after we die.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45194181)

and why would we want to work longer? You are going the wrong direction. Machines and technology tend toward zero work years.

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

omtinez (3343547) | about 10 months ago | (#45195065)

That said, I don't think this discovery is going to be particularly useful in it. Sure. Great they're doing this research and good for them for finding something. But the clock they found appears to be correlative instead of causative. Its a log. Its tree rings. It doesn't cause the aging it is instead caused by the aging.

"You can't improve what you don't measure" - Someone who was NOT W. Edwards Deming

Re:Its good they're doing this research (1)

Rich0 (548339) | about 10 months ago | (#45203849)

We invest a lot in people for relatively few productive years of service. Imagine if you could train someone up and they'd be viable in that job for 50 years.

Agree, but I also see a downside to that - even more specialization. Today new kids out of college have trouble competing against people with 25 years of experience. Imagine when the job listings all call for at least 150 years experience in a specific domain!

The need for extensive training also makes it much harder to move the workforce around - it becomes a much bigger problem when people lose their jobs/etc.

However, I do agree that longevity is something most people would prefer all the same!

The other side of this is that problems associated with aging are extremely debilitating. Even if everybody still keeled over at 85 it would be a HUGE benefit if they were as sharp as they were at age 40 when they died.

telomeres (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45192347)

so .. what happened with the telomere theory:http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/traits/telomeres/ ?

"discovered" (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about 10 months ago | (#45192351)

Versus "inventing"

Which is it?! No, I'm not 'TL;DR', but there's a wall clock
that insists there are only 24 hours in a day.

Misprint... (0)

Troyusrex (2446430) | about 10 months ago | (#45192487)

'My goal in inventing this clock is to help scientists improve their understanding of what speeds up and slows down the human aging process.

That's a misprint. The actual quote is "My goal in inventing this clock is to become really stinking rich. I don't mean a little rich, I mean Bill Gates rich. Famous too. 'The guy who solved aging' has a good ring to it. Mostly, however, I just want sacks and sacks of cash.

Re:Misprint... (1)

Lithdren (605362) | about 10 months ago | (#45192691)

So he wants to live forever and have lots of wealth? Well, at least we know the scientist involved is human.

Re:Misprint... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45195789)

"Dude, you like money AND sex?! Man we gotta hang out."

Re:Misprint... (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 10 months ago | (#45196665)

first you get the money. then you get the power. then you get the women.

Re:Misprint... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45198053)

Yeaaah... SCIENCE, BITCH!

That's a good thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45193057)

Since atoms themselves are ageless, I've always wondered what is "age"? The universe is 14 billion years old, the Earth 4, me I'm 38 but we're all made of the same atoms that have been on Earth for billions of years, barring the occasional nuclear event, which makes "new" atoms but they act exactly the same as any other atom of the same element.

Re:That's a good thing (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 10 months ago | (#45196717)

atoms may not be ageless, there are ongoing experiments looking for proton decay which means no atoms after about 10^40 years. Even barring that there are quantum events of various kinds to evaporate nucliei, the probabilities can be calculated and is about 10^200 years. So all matter, even twinkies, will eventually disappear by current theories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe [wikipedia.org]

Re:That's a good thing (1)

swilver (617741) | about 10 months ago | (#45198617)

That is... IF there is proton decay. There currently is only a lower bound after which a proton might decay.

Re:That's a good thing (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 10 months ago | (#45219713)

oh protons will decay, only the process for near term 10^34 year half life is hypothetical and what is being tested. We know other interactions with quarks and color that guarantee the 10^200 year number. Just as we know the probability that an electron at say 100 volts will tunnel through a one thousandth inch silicon oxide insulator.

Which generation will be the first to stop aging? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45193067)

Maybe if our society viewed aging as a disease, we would be spending more on anti aging research. I personally wouldn't mind if up to 50% of my income went towards it.

Re:Which generation will be the first to stop agin (3, Funny)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 10 months ago | (#45195363)

Oh no, you're supposed to grow old gracefully, and accept the infirmity of age as the price of wisdom. Or some crap like that.

Patent Filed (1)

towermac (752159) | about 10 months ago | (#45193121)

".. UCLA has filed a provisional patent on Horvath's clock .."

I thought he discovered something that was already there..

But I guess since it's *his* clock (or UCLAs), we shouldn't hold our breath on an anti-aging drug.

what does cellular age even mean? (1)

MetalOne (564360) | about 10 months ago | (#45193823)

Are they trying to say through this analysis that your potential maximum life span would be N years and that you are some percentage of the way there?

Re:what does cellular age even mean? (1)

jittles (1613415) | about 10 months ago | (#45194105)

Are they trying to say through this analysis that your potential maximum life span would be N years and that you are some percentage of the way there?

No. They've figured out the way that Apple generates the serial numbers for their iPhones. Now they are able to age their cell phones and determine when they are eligible for an upgrade with their carrier.

I have known about such a clock (1)

TomGreenhaw (929233) | about 10 months ago | (#45194399)

Every time I look in the mirror, I can see More gray hair and estimate that I'm getting older.

Re:I have known about such a clock (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 10 months ago | (#45196727)

you are lucky, my white and gray hairs are leaving the mothership and descending to earth. well, it may be some pulled into my head and are growing out my nose and ears.

Forensics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45199015)

My first thought was forensics and palaeontology - There are plenty of people in those fields for whom it would be very useful to take a scrap of human tissue and tell exactly how old its owner was when they lost it.

Time travelers (1)

Dusty101 (765661) | about 10 months ago | (#45202909)

Ha! Now I can *prove* that I'm the one that's supposed to be here! They can now confidently set me free and lock up that other guy.

In your (my) face, Future-Me!

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