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Microsoft Donates Windows 8.1 To Nonprofit Organizations

samzenpus posted about 9 months ago | from the you-get-a-copy-and-you-get-a-copy... dept.

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An anonymous reader writes in with good news for Windows loving nonprofits and libraries. "Microsoft today announced the availability of Windows 8.1 for nonprofits. The move is an extension of the company's nod to the nonprofit community with the launch Windows 8. The announcement means eligible nonprofit organizations and public libraries can request Windows 8.1 through Microsoft's software donation program."

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How white of Microsoft! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352589)

Now those non-profits will not have to look towards free alternatives such as Linux! True humanitarians.

Re:How white of Microsoft! (4, Funny)

supremebob (574732) | about 9 months ago | (#45352601)

They should throw in some "free" Surface RT tablets while they are at it. It seems that they have a few thousand of them to spare...

Re:How white of Microsoft! (5, Funny)

WaywardGeek (1480513) | about 9 months ago | (#45352947)

I am sure you just can't wait for the Windows 8.1 update! Just imagine how happy we'll all be! After all the outrage and frustration over Windows 8 losing it's "start" menu, Windows 8.1 is here to save the day! Now, that old start menu that used to do something useless... listing all of your applications so you could find them... has been replaced! Now it takes you directly to the Metro UI, where you can barf all over your keyboard! Happy day!

RUN! (0, Troll)

worldthinker (536300) | about 9 months ago | (#45352617)

As fast as you can the other way!

Charity? Or PR? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352653)

The real goal is "we want more people to choose to accept windows 8.x than would rather accept herpes"

Hallelujah (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352693)

"We want more people to choose to accept Windows 8.x as their savior."

Desperate for market share (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352661)

,,and attempting to mirror some previous success stories post giveaways.

FTFY (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352667)

Microsoft today announced the availability of Windows 8.1 for tax avoiders. The move is an extension of the company's nod to the tax avoidance community with the launch Windows 8. The announcement means eligible tax adverse institutions and public libraries can request Windows 8.1 through Microsoft's software donation program.

Income earned from interest paid by "non-profits" is tax exempt [sgrlaw.com] . That's why all the new hospitals [chicagotribune.com] are "non-profits" financed with billions in tax exempt bonds.

Re:FTFY (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352987)

You may jest, but I suspect MS will be able to claim tax benefits for the "donations" based on the retail price of the OS.

In other words, they'll be making money from taxpayers themselves.

Re:FTFY (5, Interesting)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 9 months ago | (#45353293)

Yep.

I'm at a university and we do this all the time. IBM gave us 'millions' in software, that was a burned CD with some stuff on it (not my research group so I'm not really sure what exactly, but something related to distributed computing).

My group got a '4 million dollar' donation which was all of the source code for a project a small company had worked on for 10 years with 5 major versions.

Whatever that MSRP headline number was is what they could claim as a tax break. Didn't matter if it was absurdly unrelated to the actual value or not.

I wonder (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352675)

will the FSF be signing up for this?

Re:I wonder (0, Troll)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about 9 months ago | (#45352889)

I have to admit, I laughed while reading the above post. Then I thought about it. What if they did? Order a shitload of Windows 8.1 donation copies at Microsoft's expense and then burn them all. And no, I don't mean in an optical disc drive. It would be amusing, at least, and it would attack Microsoft in a way. Obviously Microsoft is doing this at a loss, with the intention of increasing Windows 8 sales, but if a good portion are wasted...

Re:I wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353019)

Perform an immature stunt that ultimately pollutes the environment by burning toxic materials. Seems like something the FSF might actually do.

Re:I wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353213)

Yet stunt has a good purpose. The question is, what is better, undamaged whatsoever environment or loss to an asshoel corporation that should die anyway?
It's not black and white as you paint it.
I'd say, the whole bunch of disks is probably somehow recyclable.

Re:I wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353563)

How about the non-profit, citizens-united-type PACs and Super-PACs? Will they be on the approved list?

Free (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352679)

So they try to spread their disease by the way of the free. I got a free copy of Windows 8 with my new monitor. It's just sitting on a shelf unused.

In related news... (5, Funny)

sarkeizen (106737) | about 9 months ago | (#45352683)

...rattlesnake ranchers donate dozens of specimens to local playgrounds.

Re:In related news... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352941)

This is a SLASHVERT by DICE. Shame on them. Slashdot has "jumped the shark".

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353469)

Longtime Microsoft Booster Becomes Senior Editor at Slashdot
http://techrights.org/2013/07/11/slashdot-nicholas-kolakowski/

It seems a lot more MS-friendly since.

The new Microsoft model (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352685)

Give away the software, but charge them if they want to remove it. Extra points if they can figure out how to make it un-installable. That'll be the new Microsoft way.

Donation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352701)

It's called preying upon the weak.

Good move (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352705)

Taxing time, unless you can write that off?

that's just evil (-1, Troll)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 9 months ago | (#45352713)

WWWHHHHYYY?! Why would they do that to them? They might as well donate a brick to their window too. All their IT systems will come to a screeching halt! The power bill will go through the roof since nobody can find the damn shutdown button. This is the worst thing that could ever happen to any charity organization! Plus, it doesn't boot without EUFI! Do you think they have the budget for UEFI-capable computers? Fuck no, they're mostly P4's.

Re:that's just evil (2)

ruir (2709173) | about 9 months ago | (#45352797)

It is plain obvious why. NGOs are one of the driving forces of the work landscape and a field of training for natives entering the IT field. This is a move to limit expansion and people getting know-how about open source alternatives in the 3rd world. Plus, they know they will lock them in additional software/services like Office 365.

Re:that's just evil (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352865)

WWWHHHHYYY?! Why would they do that to them? They might as well donate a brick to their window too. All their IT systems will come to a screeching halt! The power bill will go through the roof since nobody can find the damn shutdown button. This is the worst thing that could ever happen to any charity organization! Plus, it doesn't boot without EUFI! Do you think they have the budget for UEFI-capable computers? Fuck no, they're mostly P4's.

Last i checked, NGOs' don't have to accept the offer. What's the matter with you !

Re:that's just evil (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 9 months ago | (#45352973)

it doesn't boot without EUFI!

Since when? I thought Windows 8.1's system requirements were the same as those of Windows 8, and that included allowing Vista-to-8 or 7-to-8 upgrades on non-UEFI systems.

Re:that's just evil (2)

GiantRobotMonster (1159813) | about 9 months ago | (#45353063)

Reminds me of the old Goodies' joke: First prize is dinner with X; Second prize is TWO dinners with X

Windows 8.x is horrible! (2, Interesting)

lasermike026 (528051) | about 9 months ago | (#45352725)

I wouldn't use it if it was free. Windows 8.x is the most horrible operating system I have ever experienced. I can't think of a worse OS. If this doesn't end the Windows OS I don't know what will. It was so frustrating I returned the laptop. The replacement system will be a Mac and not because it was my first choice. It will be a Mac because Windows 8.x is unusable.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

smash (1351) | about 9 months ago | (#45352795)

Whilst I am a mac owner (posting this from my macbook), clearly you haven't used Windows 95, Windows ME or DOS.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

casab1anca (1304953) | about 9 months ago | (#45352885)

Okay, I can agree with you on Windows ME, but DOS and Windows 95 were both pretty darn good for their time.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352975)

What exactly was wrong with Windows ME? I ran it on my own computer for almost 2 years without a re-install. It also ran on my mother's and sister's computer without any major problems. I did however disable system restore and WBEM after installation. Not sure if those were the issue but I didn't see a need for them. I found Windows ME to be more reliable than Windows 98 which more than once would boot up with a driver (video, audio, printer) that mysteriously vanishes and requires re-installation of said driver. I remember once reading on a website someone who bought a computer with Windows ME installed. They had a lot of problems and the real problem ended up being a defective hard drive. Though the company replaced the hard drive, they still blamed Windows ME for the failure. I have a feeling the bad perception of Windows ME isn't based on factual events, rather just replicating the hearsay and rumors of others.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

casab1anca (1304953) | about 9 months ago | (#45353099)

I don't think anything was "wrong" as such with Windows ME, but there weren't any significant additions to justify the cost of upgrading; it should have probably just been released as a service pack to Windows 98. It didn't also help that Windows 2000 was released around the same time, and being based off the NT kernel, was a better choice than ME.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (4, Interesting)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 9 months ago | (#45353163)

As a tech who worked on many systems from DOS, Windows 3.x, Win95, Win95 w/ FAT32, Win98, Win98SE, WinNT4.0, and WinME, I can say that indeed WinME was the biggest pain in the ass to work on when there were problems. Win98 had issues of not powering off after shutting down. WinNT had issues of hardware compatibility, and all versions tend to forget about printers from time to time.

But when something went wrong, there were definite steps that technicians could do to resolve it. Microsoft decided that made too much sense, and with WinME they broke established procedures that worked quite well before that. It's been over a decade now, so I don't remember specifics, but it was a nightmare for a while. Then everyone moved on to Win2k or WinXP, and we all pretended WinME never existed.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353591)

Windows 7 has blocked even more solutions, for example installing a (network) printer twice, with different default settings (for example once for A4 and once for A3) is no longer possible. Microsoft acknowledged the problem, but no solutions or work around, and no indication that they are even thinking about solving this.
With Linux there are usually multiple, well documented, workarounds if something breaks. With Windows most breaks are a dead-end, effectively they advice you to keep using there unsupported XP or switch to Linux if you want a supported OS. I'd gladly pay for Windows 8.x, if someone can show me that it works.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

smash (1351) | about 9 months ago | (#45353539)

Windows ME : It had all of the stability of Windows 95 (16/32 bit hybrid), and most of the inccompatibility of Windows 2000 (removed DOS and used Windows 2000 ish driver model). It was an unhappy compromise between the two and had the disadvantages of both. If your software all worked with Windows ME, Windows 2000 was a far better option.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

smash (1351) | about 9 months ago | (#45353537)

Uh... no. DOS was pretty bad, even in it's day. Windows 95 was inferior to most of its contemporaries (e.g., OS 2), it was just marketed well.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353173)

I've used every single version of Microsoft OS since DOS 3.2 and Win 8.x is by far the worst of them all. I'd *much* rather run Vista, it's that bad. Vista was immature before SP1 and the drivers weren't ready at RTM but now it's not quite as bad. WinME was mostly pointless and short lived. Win95 was a huge leap forward from MS-DOS and Win 3.x. DOS probably wasn't the absolute best for its time but it was cheap, common, good enough, and mainly far superior to what most people were using on 8 bit computers of the time.

Win 8.x is user hostile. It was the worst GUI of *any* operating system I've ever used in the last 15 years, literally. I'd rather use the UI from any previous version of Windows, or OS X, or GNOME/KDE/Unity... Hell, I'd even rather use iOS or Android over that! Nothing is anywhere near as bad, un-intuitive, nor gets in your way as much.

All this because they decided that they're now a "devices" company with Apple envy. Too bad nobody wants of those devices I guess. Meanwhile, they've given the finger repeatedly to their established user base: desktop users, businesses, sysadmins, developers and all. Of course people will turn to iOS and Android even more now. Win7 is the best OS by far IMO but that's where it seems end... I really enjoyed the last 25 years of MS products but MS put an abrupt end to it.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

smash (1351) | about 9 months ago | (#45353553)

The UI may be user hostile, i'll grant you that, but I can live with that. at least it is stable and performance isn't bad. Windows 3.x was a bug-ridden pile of shit. Short 8.3 filenames. No native TCP/IP stack.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (4, Interesting)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 9 months ago | (#45353611)

funny, I think android is about as bad as win95 or 3.x.

it sort of gets the job done, but its annoying and painful to try to work with.

I would not be so annoyed if android was the product of a 10 or 50 man company. but the 'mighty google'? I would expect nothing less than perfection and vision from such self-professed geniuses.

instead, there are stupid limitations and even cut/paste is annoying and difficult. want to grab an address from an email and locate it on a map? rarely works unless it fits an exact format of what an 'address' is supposed to be. more often than not, you can't click on addresses in email text. fuck! what a piece of shit.

face it, its a vehicle for ad delivery. plain and simple; just enough to do that mission yet not free enough to do what YOU want unless you root and go around things. yes, apple is worse, but they don't solely exist just to delivery ads. google is ONLY about ads, these days. if you get in their way, they fuck with you and make your life harder than it should be.

I remember old windows and how annoying it was compared to old vax/vmx, unix and other os's of the ancient era. android gives me the same 'damn, they could have made it great but they didn't' feeling.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352817)

I don't know what is worse, windows 8's touch interface or being forced to use a one-button mouse with Mac OS. I'll stick with Linux.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

casab1anca (1304953) | about 9 months ago | (#45352905)

Mac has supported multi-button mice for years now. And Windows 8's touch interface isn't actually bad on touch devices, most people complain because they don't like it on a desktop.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 9 months ago | (#45352927)

And Windows 8's touch interface isn't actually bad on touch devices, most people complain because they don't like it on a desktop.

I agree, on a touchscreen it's actually really good. On the desktop not so much, but then again I don't really see it on the desktop anyway in fact there's very little need to use it at all outside of launching applications that aren't on the desktop or pinned to the taskbar and once you're using your applications (which is the point anyway) they aren't any different.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352879)

I wouldn't use it if it was free.

and linux has been free for 20 years and 98% of people still dont use it on their desktop.

It will be a Mac because Windows 8.x is unusable.

Unusable? Really? Different, yes. Not to your liking, sure I can see that. But "unusable"? If you actually do find it to be "unusable" then the defective component here is you. Let's try and be realistic rather than exaggerating hmm? All it does is make you look stupid.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (3, Interesting)

Stormwatch (703920) | about 9 months ago | (#45353001)

Windows 8 is an unusable operating system in the same sense as Comic Sans is an unusable font.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (2)

gunzy83 (2884769) | about 9 months ago | (#45353197)

I wouldn't use it if it was free.

and linux has been free for 20 years and 98% of people still dont use it on their desktop.

While I think desktop use of the OS is underestimated, most normal people (your 98%) wouldn't install their own OS (let alone know that Linux even exists). Of those that would, many would just be reinstalling a clean Windows install either to keep it performant or clean manufacturer installed bloatware (and because of games but that is slowly changing). Also, almost all new PCs that are not Macs ship with Windows by default because of Microsoft's monopolistic actions in the past and their current OEM/refund tricks that have a subtle monopoly reinforcing effect. Is it any wonder things are the way they are?

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353411)

While I think desktop use of the OS is underestimated, most normal people (your 98%) wouldn't install their own OS (let alone know that Linux even exists).

because it is irrelevant. people just want to use their applications and moving to linux doesnt make that any better in fact it makes it worse.

Also, almost all new PCs that are not Macs ship with Windows by default because of Microsoft's monopolistic actions in the past and their current OEM/refund tricks that have a subtle monopoly reinforcing effect.

in addition to Macs there are quite a large range of Chromebooks now which have taken off bigger than any traditional Linux distro ever has.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

gunzy83 (2884769) | about 9 months ago | (#45353609)

because it is irrelevant. people just want to use their applications and moving to linux doesnt make that any better in fact it makes it worse.

It is relevant. The only route to mainstream desktop Linux adoption currently is install it yourself, something that most users would not do whether or not they knew it was an option.

in addition to Macs there are quite a large range of Chromebooks now which have taken off bigger than any traditional Linux distro ever has.

OSX is pre-installed. ChromeOS is pre-installed. Many of the applications "people just want to use" don't exist on those platforms either. This is very much the case on ChromeOS where it has less applications than desktop Linux but that has not stopped it from taking off. The lack of Linux pre-installs on hardware from major manufacturers and subsequently on the showroom floor of brick and mortar shops is the single biggest factor in play here.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353475)

When OEMs did ship Linux, those computers were returned more often than Windows computers. Linux had more work to do and has even more work with the latest round of desktop streamlining. Windows 8 gave the FOSS another opportunity but we squandered it. Maybe we'll do better with Windows 10

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352989)

As a mac user who switched to a surface pro and loves it, I couldn't disagree more. Windows 8 is a fast, friendly, easy to use OS that's been very fast and stable for me. I think anyone can tell you conclusively: Vista was far, FAR worse, and that went on to sell 400 million copies. Windows 8 has already outsold every mac EVER sold, so it's safe to say that it'll be just fine :)

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1, Funny)

ahabswhale (1189519) | about 9 months ago | (#45353377)

Wow, I'm trying to figure out how you could be more of a blatant Micorsoft shill but I can't think of anything.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353005)

You, sir, are a fucking idiot. I'm 36 years old. I went from the TI 99/4a to an Amiga, then built my first PC in 1997. I have no problems with Windows 8 and find it to be the best Windows yet. The Start Screen is better than the old Start Menu, which few idiots like you ever knew how to customize and modify to make it more usable. Now, you install a program and you get just 1 icon on the Start Screen that you can easily move wherever you want. It's simple, it's fast, it's easy.... just not for you. Seems like a classic PBCK.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353299)

Wow, you know how to install Windows and customize the start button. Its perfect for people like you.

I clearly saw obvious problems ; IE is incompatible and unstable on mainstream sites. The Metro GUI Networking switches don't work correctly, custom (nor pure) ipv6 is not possible, DNS resolver requires ipv4, it will force you to use offline if its set of proprietary network tests fail.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

Fishchip (1203964) | about 9 months ago | (#45353305)

Your idea of what is truly usable must be astonishingly preschool.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

cashman73 (855518) | about 9 months ago | (#45353313)

It will be a Mac because Windows 8.x is unusable.

Actually, the Intel-based Macs can run any version of Windows, either natively or virtually. The problem is, no Mac user wants to touch Windows 8.x with a 30 foot pole, either. Heck, even MacOS 1.0 was better than Windows 8.x by a mile!

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353549)

Actually, the Intel-based Macs can run any version of Windows, either natively or virtually

The problems I find are:
1) AHCI support[1].
2) macbook keyboards aren't good for Windows stuff.

As for Windows 8.x and Windows Server 2012 etc the problems are:
1) UI discoverability is less.
2) More steps to do common things
3) UI changes for the sake of change - no real improvements.

For example, quickest way to logout requires you to _right_ click on the start button or where the start button would be. Why? Changing columns in Task Manager details requires you to right click on the columns titles - the option is gone from the menu.

Under the hood Windows 8 might arguably be better but the Windows 8 UI and UI changes look like they were thought up by management committees and the engineers/designers gave up convincing them various bits were stupid or terrible, or didn't even bother and just went "You want what? OK".

Either that or Microsoft has really much crappier[2] employees nowadays.

[1] AFAIK you need a custom 3rd party bootsector to enable AHCI.

[2] Windows 95's UI was actually decent- recent documents, easily customizable Send To, Start Menu, task bar, etc. So they must have had people with a clue back then.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

csumpi (2258986) | about 9 months ago | (#45353333)

I've been using win8 for over a year. Zero problems. Everything works. Faster than win7 and looks better.

Until you provide facts to support your claim of "the most horrible operating system I have ever experienced", you are just spreading FUD.

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (1)

kangsterizer (1698322) | about 9 months ago | (#45353421)

or you can just install classicshell

Re:Windows 8.x is horrible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353601)

I am in full agreement with you - ust that I chose the Linux Mint route out. That allowed me to buy a pre-owned laptop with Win7, and it was fed the install DVD on 1st boot-up. I haven't looked back, and as Mac is BSD-based, am better able to help friends who have Macs.

If Microsoft gave me Windows free, along with a whole new machine free, I would still say "no". (as their 'catch' would be to keep Windows on there)

Awww... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352745)

Damm, does microsoft hate them that much?

That's just not fair... Just because they don't throw money at microsoft. That's no reason to give them windows 8.

Donate Win 7 if you really want to be charitable. (2, Informative)

trout007 (975317) | about 9 months ago | (#45352781)

I can't even find a students version.

Re:Donate Win 7 if you really want to be charitabl (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352791)

Did you check TPB?

Re:Donate Win 7 if you really want to be charitabl (2)

substance2003 (665358) | about 9 months ago | (#45352835)

I can't even find a students version.

Don't know where you're checking but I can find copies by walking into Staples. Most small shops still sell OEM copies too. You can order on their web site too if walking is too difficult.

Re:Donate Win 7 if you really want to be charitabl (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353217)

I can't even find a students version.

Yeah, people are willing to pay for Win7, so there is no reason to donate it.

I assume donated copies will count as market penetration in financial reports and such?

Re:Donate Win 7 if you really want to be charitabl (1)

crimoid (27373) | about 9 months ago | (#45353255)

They do. Windows 7 and a bunch of other software products are offered via TechSoup.

Re:Donate Win 7 if you really want to be charitabl (3, Insightful)

elashish14 (1302231) | about 9 months ago | (#45353325)

It's true.

MS is using this faux charitability to advance their agenda, because they know it's the only way to make people use.. whatever you would consider W8.1. If they really cared about non-profits, why not ask what they need and work out a deal to offer that?

And let's not forget that any open source project does the same thing for EVERYTHING they produce. So what does MS really deserve praise for here? Microsofts products aren't even worth a penny compared to alternatives anyways, but when they reduce their prices on products on which they already make absurd margins, we're supposed to worship them like saints. Please.

oh man (1, Flamebait)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 9 months ago | (#45352783)

I wonder if this will force Android/Linux to make their software free for non-profits as well... oh wait.

Football (0)

shimul1990 (3413815) | about 9 months ago | (#45352799)

Football is a popular game all over the country & i also like it very much.

Better option: Linux (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352803)

Sorry to say this Microsoft, but even Ubuntu's Unity bullshit is a better user experience than Metro.

Microsoft want to give me a free copy of Windows 8.1? No thanks. It has no value to me. I'll only consider accepting "free" Windows 8.1 if it comes with a six figure donation to my bank account each year. Otherwise I'll use Linux and get some real work done.

p.s. I'd probably be willing to accept five figures if they'll let me run Linux in a virtual machine and then ignore Windows.

Re:Better option: Linux (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353039)

the problem is that you (like many slashdotters) are the extreme minority who wouldnt use Windows if it were free but would gladly use Linux, you are disconnected from reality. real people dont care about this sort of thing as much as you think, wish and hope they do. an operating system is generally used as little more than a launcher for applications and given that those applications work the same on Windows 7 as they do on 8 there really isnt any problem as far as the average user is concerned.

Re:Better option: Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353183)

Windows if far from free even if you can get it at zero cost.

Re:Better option: Linux (2)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 9 months ago | (#45353267)

Except for the 'average user' that hates the UI so much they will pay to have their brand new computer downgraded to Windows 7.

Awesome (2)

sgt scrub (869860) | about 9 months ago | (#45352815)

Now all they have to do is upgrade all of their other "free" Microsoft stuff to be compatible, assuming they fell for this BS before.

TechSoup Global
Through TechSoup Global, Microsoft donates software to tens of thousands of nonprofit organizations and nongovernmental organizations around the world. Get it? hint: soup kitchen [techsoup.org]

Re:Awesome (2)

sconeu (64226) | about 9 months ago | (#45353271)

You don't understand... This is for everyone!!!

Even if you buy regular licenses for Windows, once you've gone through all the BSA audits, you won't have any profits, so the next time around, you get the non-profit version!!!!

I want my time back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352821)

I spent three years working on device driver features for Windows 8.x and it is disgusting to see all that effort go to waste as almost no one wants to be saddled with "Modern" UI headaches. Luckily I mostly work on OS agnostic features these days as I was about ready to quit once 8.1 went RTM. Windows 7 is dead? LONG LIVE WINDOWS 7!

Re:I want my time back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352959)

how is it better and why should we care

Classic Shell (1)

tepples (727027) | about 9 months ago | (#45353107)

Classic Shell hides most of the Modern UI crap for you. I use it at work, and it's the only way I could find Windows 8 remotely bearable.

There is always a catch (3, Interesting)

andrew3 (2250992) | about 9 months ago | (#45352937)

Microsoft also gives free Windows licenses to students through various programs. But there is always a catch. In this case, Microsoft wants its users to adopt its own formats and use its network services, essentially pushing users into an endless cycle of relying on Microsoft software and services, allowing Microsoft to push for unreasonable terms, include more privacy-invasive features to gain more information about their users, increased OS reliance on Microsoft's network/cloud computing, and, of course, to make more money. Making money on its own, of course, is not usually a bad thing, but when a company like Microsoft controls a significant portion of the market it is certainly bad. I hear non-profits and governments are also often more likely to adopt free (-as in freedom) software such as LibreOffice and occasionally GNU/Linux, which could explain why they are a target of this campaign.

Remember people: this isn't being done to benefit you, it's done to benefit Microsoft.

Just another marketing gimmick (0)

ThomasMcA (2986113) | about 9 months ago | (#45352945)

They have to find a way to overcome all of the negative press somehow. By giving the product away, they hope users will fall in love with the product when they use the free version. Microsoft needs to learn how to listen to their users. They can't hear the cries of "We love Windows 7" because they (meaning Microsoft) are too busy shouting "Here's Windows 8! You're gonna love it!" Even after people failed to love it, Microsoft is resorting to giving it away, hoping to win over the user community with bribery.

Non-Profits? Riiiiiight.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352951)

I suppose this includes BILLION dollar organizations like the non-profit NFL and non-profit healthcare companies. Like they need another way to save a buck.

Questionable juxtaposition of back-to-back posts (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352957)

"What Apple Does and Doesn't Know About You"

"Microsoft Donates Windows 8.1 To Nonprofit Organizations"

Both by samzenpus.

Already Done (1)

chr1st1anSoldier (2598085) | about 9 months ago | (#45352961)

I can't help but think about Apple already doing this and seeing this as another Microsoft copy cat act. And I pity those that adopt Windows 8. I have clients that use windows 8 and some that have Server 2012. Stop for a second, Why the #%^$%^#@ do you need the metro interface on the server? That's a rant for another day, back to this current one. My current field experiences with Windows 8 have been filled with annoyances and frustration. Want to put a short cut on your desktop that is on the Metro interface but not on the desktop? Push the Windows key on the KB, start tying the application name. When the application appears, right click it. Click some bullshit down at the bottom of the screen. From there, click some other bullshit. From there select "Open Location." When the explorer.exe window open, fine the applications executable. Right click the executable, then select "Send To" then select "To Desktop(Create shortcut)." Seriously, W.T.F. You want to set up a VPN connection using Microsoft VPN? Well, remember the good old days when you could put a short cut of the VPN connection on the desktop, double click it open the actual VPN connection? HAHAHAHA Those days are GONE! Make your little VPN connection, stick the short cut on the desktop, double click it, guess what opens? The little network connectivity sidebar(Sorry, I don't know the proper name of it), where you select your VPN connection, then click the "Connect" button, THEN we are at the point to how it used to be in Windows XP, Vista, and 7. Anyway, I am tired of typing.

FSF should donate Linux to charities (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352969)

That would be quite generous considering that each license is a $699 retail value [groklaw.net] .

Story is a PR plant (4, Informative)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | about 9 months ago | (#45352981)

I work with a charity that has access to the MS discounts and there is one authorized outlet for it, Tech Soup. MS has ALWAYS made the latest version available so this is nothing new. It is just an astroturfing post to try and drum up some good PR for the embattled and truly miserable OS.

That said why is MS so cruel to those in need?

Re:Story is a PR plant (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353559)

There might be options for tax breaks, anyone can confirm?

W8 is both amazing and terrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45352993)

I consider Windows 8 a lot like diarrhea after a long day of constipation pain. Finally you get to take a crap and all of it comes out and you feel relieved. Even constipation feels good in the end, and well, windows 8 is the same. It works great if you have a touchscreen but it comes with a lot of problems and is incomplete, and 8.1 is like a downgrade. Want to run skype with xampp? Good luck! You have to close skype first, run xampp and then open skype again because skype uses port 80 without allowing you to configure much of anything. They tried the apple approach and that's why they failed, because they made it too simple it's stupid.

Never EVER create a computer that tries to think its smarter than the user. That is what windows 8 does and why it fails so miserably. Does it run smoothly? Yes. Does it look pretty? Absolutely. Is metro pretty cool? Yeah, works better than the start menu but it could be better. How? By giving the users more control. It's terribly inconvenient to try and add non-metro apps to the metro screen and when windows 8.1 came out, it was ridiculous trying to figure out how to get access to all my programs, control panel etc... For god sake microsoft get your act together! Also, if you upgrade to 8.1, it becomes more difficult to close programs, you have to hold it at the bottom of the screen for a few seconds until the window angles itself and then you can let go. but that only works on metro apps. If you want to close any other app, you have to do it traditionally, which is really annoying. Also, don't upgrade to 8.1 if you pan to use a mouse because 8.1 breaks the DPI settings and so forth trying to be smarter than the user again.

I want to downgrade to windows 7, but I'm not sure if it will work well with touchscreen. Anyone know the answer to this?

Who Cares? (-1, Troll)

VonSkippy (892467) | about 9 months ago | (#45353003)

A free turd is still a turd.

Free? I don't think so. (0)

edibobb (113989) | about 9 months ago | (#45353029)

They'll have to pay the non-profits to take it.

What do they have against non-profit organization? (0)

Required Snark (1702878) | about 9 months ago | (#45353061)

Is this some evil plan by Ballmer as he is leaving?

Maybe it is an act of aggression against Bill Gates, who has redefined himself as a philanthropist. Ballmer knows that he will never have any of the respect that Gates has achieved since he left Microsoft. He may think that poisoning the non-profit sector will partly blunt Gate's legacy. This would certainly fit with Ballmer's previous demeanor [youtube.com] .

This is a very good move from Microsoft (3, Funny)

jkrise (535370) | about 9 months ago | (#45353073)

First they donate it to non-profits
Then they donate it to schools
Then to universities
Then to the hospitals
Then to the politicians
Then to the developers ... ...
Finally they donate to the existing Windows XP users.

But nobody is interested; not even the pirates; since nobody wants to be infected with Windows 8.x.

Sentimentality NOT Instrumentality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353091)

MSFT was up today, highest of the last three and a record in 10+ years.

XP about to enter End Of Life.

Balmer, Leaving Lock Stock And Barrel. The 'Clown' shows the crowd the Finger then walks out of center ring.

Exodus of 10K MS engineers world wide in the next 12 months.

William Beatrix Gates to exit Board.

Exodus of 10 Billion shares owned by CALTRANS + Cal Teachers + NewYork Teachers + exit of Teamsters Unions State wide and National.

A Perfect Stock Price Storm brewing.

Good.

PS A 'Jerry Penn State Event' to hit when it gets through the US District Courts Systems! Who will IT (i.e. the Pervert) be?

LOL

Not just PR (1)

quantaman (517394) | about 9 months ago | (#45353093)

Everyone is focusing on the obvious benefits of PR and trying to spread adoption and avoiding cheaper competitors gaining market share.

But I suspect even if you completely removed these benefits the donations make a profit for MS.

How? First subtract the revenue of the tiny handful of non-profits that would purchase Win8 on their own, then add the tax writeoffs they get from all the "donated" copies of Windows.

Can any accountants chime in on whether they could save more on their taxes than it actually cost to set up the program?

Re:Not just PR (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353431)

I can chime in because I heard the same story 10 years ago.
Yes, they distribute the software for peanuts (all they do is "copy that floppy"), but treat it like a donation of the full price of the software. They certainly save more in taxes than it costs them.

The opportunity loss of potential sales is worth less than the value of getting people locked in.

WOOOT FREE SPYWARE FOR NSA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353113)

right on now your charity too can be spied on....and look like shit and become dependent on a for profit company that has not your interest at heart...
8.2 and 9 will cost you

Sounds like an Onion First line (1)

SuperCharlie (1068072) | about 9 months ago | (#45353175)

Microsoft Donates Windows 8.1 To Nonprofit Organizations
Nonprofit Organizations say "No Thanks" and stab themselves in the eye instead. Film at 11.

For polycarbonate recycling or incineration? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353177)

Hi, I am experimenting with burning polycarbonate for fuel.

I'll take all of your Windows 8.1 CD's and burn them for you.

  I'll help the world in two ways, in the right type of furnace it produces energy.
The second way is to keep this shitty operating system off of other peoples computers.

Is Amazon sponsoring this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353191)

If I get what's going on here, we won't be able to use our libraries, and we will be forced to buy the books from Amazon...

For a change, I have nothing but kudos... (1)

Bob_Who (926234) | about 9 months ago | (#45353343)

Its been a long while since I haven't sneered at a story about MS. That just shows to go you, its not all bad.

Good one Microsoft. People need all the help they can get, these days. Keep it up.

I wondered why the government shut down (1)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about 9 months ago | (#45353357)

The announcement means eligible nonprofit organizations and public libraries can request Windows 8.1 through Microsoft's software donation program

It was an attempt to stop public libraries from upgrading their Windows desktops.

Nonprofit Organizations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#45353385)

Such as BlackBerry, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest...

oh no... (1)

roman_mir (125474) | about 9 months ago | (#45353483)

it's a trap!

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